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A-List Celebrity To Be Outed As A Sexual Predator (1 Viewer)

I'm sure there's absolutely nothing political about the staff at SNL coming out in support of Franken. 

At all. 

Really. 

 
Andy Dufresne said:
That's great and all but what's the purpose?
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Probably to limit the long-term damage, especially within the entertainment industry (as opposed to the public). Not much can be done about short-term damage. But the door may be open for Franken to write for SNL again in, say, five years -- maybe less.

To me, there is an analogy to Paula Deen's recent career. She can't be on TV and may never get back on. But she's still got a significant presence in magazines, books, online, etc. -- and I mean stuff written and published after the racism flap. For whatever reason, people who would rail against Deen getting another TV gig don't have the same animus about her other media offering. Deen has taken a significant hit, of course -- but that's not the same thing as being ruined.

 
pantherclub said:
2 things at play here.

1.  He thought he was invincible

2. He must have banged a ton of chicks on the side without any issues for years
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One thing about Layer, that I talked to my buddy at work about: he's married to a model, who is a pretty attractive lady, too. Why in the name of Grabthar are you seeking strange? Are you that desperate for it that you'll torpedo your own career and marriage, to say nothing of the damage you'd inflict on your victims' psyches. You had to know this was eventually going  bite you in the ###, right?

 
Kal El said:
One thing about Layer, that I talked to my buddy at work about: he's married to a model, who is a pretty attractive lady, too. Why in the name of Grabthar are you seeking strange? Are you that desperate for it that you'll torpedo your own career and marriage, to say nothing of the damage you'd inflict on your victims' psyches. You had to know this was eventually going  bite you in the ###, right?
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These kinds of things are first, second, and third are about establishing power. Power is the addiction, so to speak -- not the sex.

 
Doug B said:
These kinds of things are first, second, and third are about establishing power. Power is the addiction, so to speak -- not the sex.
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I kinda figured as much, but even then, he was the host of what was once the biggest morning show on TV. Millions of people tuned in and hung on his every word. How did that not satisfy any lust for power?

 
Kal El said:
One thing about Layer, that I talked to my buddy at work about: he's married to a model, who is a pretty attractive lady, too. Why in the name of Grabthar are you seeking strange? Are you that desperate for it that you'll torpedo your own career and marriage, to say nothing of the damage you'd inflict on your victims' psyches. You had to know this was eventually going  bite you in the ###, right?
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You ask very reasonable questions. The guy who had a mechanism installed so that he could lock his office door from a button under his desk is probably not very good at answering reasonable questions.

 
dhockster said:
You ask very reasonable questions. The guy who had a mechanism installed so that he could lock his office door from a button under his desk is probably not very good at answering reasonable questions.
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Unless anonymous NBC sources are lying: most, if not all, high-level offices in that building have the same mechanism. Variety magazine was irresponsible in making it sound like some special thing Lauer alone had installed. Everyone runs with the salacious bit, and very few see the correction later.

 
Doug B said:
Probably to limit the long-term damage, especially within the entertainment industry (as opposed to the public). Not much can be done about short-term damage. But the door may be open for Franken to write for SNL again in, say, five years -- maybe less.

To me, there is an analogy to Paula Deen's recent career. She can't be on TV and may never get back on. But she's still got a significant presence in magazines, books, online, etc. -- and I mean stuff written and published after the racism flap. For whatever reason, people who would rail against Deen getting another TV gig don't have the same animus about her other media offering. Deen has taken a significant hit, of course -- but that's not the same thing as being ruined.
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:lmao:

I can't imagine Franken ever considering going back to writing at SNL

 
One thing about Layer, that I talked to my buddy at work about: he's married to a model, who is a pretty attractive lady, too. Why in the name of Grabthar are you seeking strange? Are you that desperate for it that you'll torpedo your own career and marriage, to say nothing of the damage you'd inflict on your victims' psyches. You had to know this was eventually going bite you in the ###, right?
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Models stop pretending to enjoy sex once they get the fish into the boat.

 
Kraft... said:
I think any public apology in these cases comes of a phony PR garbage IMO. They are doing it to save face because they got caught, I don't put a whole lot of stock into them. It's really a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation. 
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Agree that the apology comes off as phony just "saving my a**" BS. However I think the bolded should be "Damned if you do and more damned if you don't."

There's no apology that's going to come across as genuinely contrite but saying nothing is worse.

 
If they were truly sorry they'd have come out and said so before someone called them on it.

Now it just comes across as, "I'm sorry I got caught."

 
Andy Dufresne said:
If they were truly sorry they'd have come out and said so before someone called them on it.

Now it just comes across as, "I'm sorry I got caught."
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If that were true then almost nobody in the history of the world has ever been sorry about anything. Apologies rarely come before being caught. I don't think that necessarily means they aren't sorry.

 
dgreen said:
If that were true then almost nobody in the history of the world has ever been sorry about anything. Apologies rarely come before being caught. I don't think that necessarily means they aren't sorry.
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Well, I suppose that's true.

But I don't really think Lauer is sorry for what he did. But that's just 100% my opinion. Partly based on the fact that his first reaction is to demand a golden parachute.

 
Andy Dufresne said:
Well, I suppose that's true.

But I don't really think Lauer is sorry for what he did. But that's just 100% my opinion. Partly based on the fact that his first reaction is to demand a golden parachute.
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I can definitely agree with that. As for saying sorry, a way to make it seem genuine is to not do what you're apologizing for again.

 
rockaction said:
We all ought to rush to judgment about this things. Then left-wingers on message boards who consider themselves enlightened can praise us.  
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I am honestly completely ignorant as to the political, right/left aspects of the current sexual harassment saga - just thought Adam's quote about his dad is interesting.

When I read Pam Anderson's comments about Weinstein and his targets, it was obvious she would be vilified for victim-blaming, but I think she is showing a mature level of common sense, which probably comes from being sexually harassed, assaulted and objectified her entire life.

 
CletiusMaximus said:
I am honestly completely ignorant as to the political, right/left aspects of the current sexual harassment saga - just thought Adam's quote about his dad is interesting.

When I read Pam Anderson's comments about Weinstein and his targets, it was obvious she would be vilified for victim-blaming, but I think she is showing a mature level of common sense, which probably comes from being sexually harassed, assaulted and objectified her entire life.
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Fair enough.

It just seems to me that if one treats claims with any sort of skepticism, one is vilified by certain people here as unenlightened and a troglodyte and a member of the right. It usually comes from the posters on the left. That's really crudely drawn and hyper-general, but that seems to be how it is. 

It's the same thing that K.C. Johnson and Robby Soave got vilified for regarding the Duke and UVA rape hoaxes by the left, especially the feminist left. There is a political dynamic to this, IMO, in that it reveals the politics of power and what power does, which the academic feminist left has always been trying to devolve. 

 
Is there more to the Franken story than that fake boob grab photo? And if not, are people really lumping Franken with the rest who did far worse?!  Baffling if so. I see no harm in what Franken did. He was a comedian trying to be funny. 

 
Rhythmdoctor said:
Is there more to the Franken story than that fake boob grab photo? And if not, are people really lumping Franken with the rest who did far worse?!  Baffling if so. I see no harm in what Franken did. He was a comedian trying to be funny. 
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Several women accused him of something.  The first day after there were I think 3 that said he grabbed their asses during photo shoots.  I want to say more came forward the next day with something too but I didn't click through to read what it was.

 
Snickers said:
Up in 18 months which is where the 30M figure comes from...20M/year.

i suspect he gets most of it.
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Depends on if his contract had a morality clause or similar in it. I would assume his contract had language requiring him to abide by the company HR guidelines or whatever.

 
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2008 Village Voice article on a roast of Matt Lauer

https://www.villagevoice.com/2008/10/24/matt-lauers-roast-tom-cruise-katie-couric-and-3-hours-of-****-jokes/

 
This could be HUGE.

Santa Barbara County Sheriff’s Office public information officer Kelly Hoover told Fox News on Tuesday night in an emailed statement, “Following the recent inquiries into the Sheriff’s Office interview of Mr. Feldman in 1993, the Santa Barbara County Sheriff’s Office conducted an additional review for any stored items remaining from the Michael Jackson investigation. In a container which included the original reports from the investigation, the Sheriff’s Office located some detective working copies of audio recordings made during the investigation. A copy of Mr. Feldman’s interview was located. The recording is being turned over to the Los Angeles Police Department. Due to the fact that this case involves the alleged sexual abuse of a child, we are unable to comment further and any documentation or evidence related to this case is exempt from release.”
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When are we going to start removing statues and memorials of sexual harrassers of the past?  I'm sure George Washington, Kennedy, MLK and others have a dirty story or two.

This is getting ridiculous.

 
I wonder if it will ever come out what's been hanging over Corey Feldman's head all these years.

I mean, say he would have ratted out everyone 20 years ago. He wasn't working much if at all. I don't know what his finances were like back then. Given the knowns and unknowns ... what speculatively could have happened to him and his loved ones had he spilled all in 1997? Seems possible it was much more than career threats keeping him silent -- maybe personal threats against family?

 
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