Adrian Peterson's turn to get the boot from the NFL (3 Viewers)

[timschochet]

Arian Foster goes in on Budweiser, pretty much nails it:

Arian Foster @ArianFoster · 2m

Lol ok, alcohol company. RT @darrenrovell: NFL beer sponsor, Anheuser-Busch, issues strong statement

Arian Foster @ArianFoster · 2m

Selling poison on that high horse.

Arian Foster @ArianFoster · 43s

Domestic violence and alcohol damn near synonymous.

no he doesn't nail it at all. It would correct to say, "Domestic violence and ABUSE of alcohol may go hand in hand." Millions of Americans drink beer responsibly without abusing their families. Millions more get drunk without abusing their families. If you beat your wife and kid, that's on you, not on your whiskey or beer or drugs or how you were raised.

 

[timschochet]

It's still only Tuesday. I think by Thursday Peterson will be deactivated again or suspended.

 

[humpback]

Are these politicians up for re-election?

Of course they are.

Are these politicians up for re-election?

if so, I hope they win. Good for them.

 

[Tom Servo]

What happened to Jesse Ventura?

He finally went full blown crazy.

Successfully sued the widow of a deceased soldier for slander this year. Neat guy.

Not that I want to defend Jesse Ventura but should widows of deceased soldiers be exempt from slander legislation?

Well...Chris Kyle never mentions Ventura by name in his book. And, his wife didn't write it. You tell me.

 

[Bucky86]

What happened to Jesse Ventura?

He finally went full blown crazy.

Successfully sued the widow of a deceased soldier for slander this year. Neat guy.

Not that I want to defend Jesse Ventura but should widows of deceased soldiers be exempt from slander legislation?

Well...Chris Kyle never mentions Ventura by name in his book. And, his wife didn't write it.You tell me.

He mentioned him by name in various television interviews. Which is why he was sued for slander and not libel.

 

[Tom Servo]

What happened to Jesse Ventura?

He finally went full blown crazy.

Successfully sued the widow of a deceased soldier for slander this year. Neat guy.

Not that I want to defend Jesse Ventura but should widows of deceased soldiers be exempt from slander legislation?

Well...Chris Kyle never mentions Ventura by name in his book. And, his wife didn't write it.You tell me.

He mentioned him by name in various television interviews. Which is why he was sued for slander and not libel.

Slander for a crackpot? The irony writes itself.

 

[SIDA!]

I wish someone would stuff leaves in Tim's mouth and beat him bloody.

thanks. Do I know you?

Time to stop this crap. It's also 'ironic' that a thread about abuse contains personal attacks like this. If anyone doesn't like Tim's posts it's not that difficult to block them.

I have never blocked anyone, but wouldn't you still see the posts of people who quote him?Serious question, if someone was to go back and look at every FFA thread that is more than 2 pages in length since he became a member, what percentage of them would have a comment by him? Blocking Tim is tantamount to blocking the FFA.

Better question who cares?

When a guy seemingly posts in nearly every thread on the board and clearly demonstrates that he is too busy formulating the next post he is going to submit in lieu of actually reading posts that others have submitted, it gets a bit much.

For whom? It seems the same few people do more to damage to every thread Tim posts in complaining about him posting than his posting does.

There is a lot of that. That is the nature of the FFA for sure. You can say that about any poster who develops a reputation of some sort. Any thread started by MoP for example would have the same types of stuff. Smoo being a deadbeat. I dunno if that reputation even holds anymore. My activity here has plummeted over the years.I am hardly around anymore. Just pop in every now and then, primarily to keep tabs on a few soap operas (e.g. Arizona Ron) or when a major story seems to be filling the air waves to see what the chatter is. So, I am not keeping tabs on who is anti-Tim.

I don't think I have ever really said much about Tim. But I have experienced him in all his glory. The dude just loves to type and hear himself talk/think. I have no problem with anyone who has an opinion. Even those who differ from mine. But when you are seemingly more interested in typing out what you want to say or what you think instead of actually reading and digesting what others write, it gets a bit much. For whom? Well, for me, for one.

this will be my last post on this subject because it bores me to death and because you're hijacking the thread, but you're full of ####. I don't know much about you, but you know even less about me. The claim that I don't read other posts is both wrong and ignorant.

How is it even remotely possible for you (with nearly 100,000 posts and a opinion on everything) to claim that I know less about you than you know about me? What an utterly asinine thing to say. And I am not hijacking this thread. I simply made a comment that if anyone were to block you, they would essentially have to abandon the FFA since you post on every thread. It wouldn't matter if they blocked you because they would still see your comments being quoted and commented on by other posters.

You say I am full of #### about you not reading comments. Here is an example from this thread:

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=713878&p=17231655

You wrote:

Does it matter, SIDA? If you cross the line into abuse, even if you intentions were good, you still ought to be punished for it.

Um, I stated repeatedly that AP should be punished and his actions should be condemned...multiple times. Maybe if you would have taken the time to read the thread you would have seen my comments before you hit the reply button to bless us with that little gem.

 

[Bucky86]

I don't care much for Tim, but SIDA! needs to quit taking Timmy so seriously and just relax.

 

[D-Day]

Watching and listening to all of the ESPN talking heads bashing the NFL, owners, commissioner and players. Hey ESPN, you want to make a statement to the NFL, don't broadcast the next Monday night football game. YOU put YOUR money where your mouth is.

 

[Koya]

Arian Foster goes in on Budweiser, pretty much nails it:

Arian Foster @ArianFoster · 2m

Lol ok, alcohol company. RT @darrenrovell: NFL beer sponsor, Anheuser-Busch, issues strong statement

Arian Foster @ArianFoster · 2m

Selling poison on that high horse.

Arian Foster @ArianFoster · 43s

Domestic violence and alcohol damn near synonymous.

If question anyone who considers the drinking of a legal beverage (responsibly) with DV

Apparently you take things too literally and/or missed the word "near"?

I hardly take this too literally. I understand what near means in both the literal and figurative sense.

And this is just plain misguided. Actually, it's insulting.

 

[Koya]

Arian Foster goes in on Budweiser, pretty much nails it:

Arian Foster @ArianFoster · 2m

Lol ok, alcohol company. RT @darrenrovell: NFL beer sponsor, Anheuser-Busch, issues strong statement

Arian Foster @ArianFoster · 2m

Selling poison on that high horse.

Arian Foster @ArianFoster · 43s

Domestic violence and alcohol damn near synonymous.

The NFL and Domestic violence are damn near synonymous as well

 

[SHIZNITTTT]

Wish we could wait until all the evidence is presented before people jump off the cliff.

 

[Baloney Sandwich]

Watching and listening to all of the ESPN talking heads bashing the NFL, owners, commissioner and players. Hey ESPN, you want to make a statement to the NFL, don't broadcast the nexWorry about your winless franchiset Monday

night football game. YOU put YOUR money where your mouth is.

That is not how business partners operate, especially giving the long standing relationshipand money involved. By that logic, no fan should express their displeasure with how the NFL has handled things unless they plan on not watching football.

 

[RhymesMcJuice]

I hardly take this too literally. I understand what near means in both the literal and figurative sense.

And this is just plain misguided. Actually, it's insulting.

Foster's point is that Budweiser knows that its product is involved in a majority of domestic violence:

High Rate of Alcohol UseOn the surface it seems hard to argue with the numbers reported in domestic violence research studies . Ninety-two percent of the domestic abuse assailants reported use of alcohol or other drugs on the day of the assault, according to a recent JAMA report.
Another study shows that the percentage of batterers who are under the influence of alcohol when they assault their partners ranges from 48 percent to 87 percent, with most research indicating a 60 to 70 percent rate of alcohol abuse and a 13 to 20 percent rate of drug abuse.

 

[dparker713]

Nike is now out on the Vikings.

Anheiser-Busch voicing displeasure.

Peterson is finished for the foreseeable future.

Nike is not out. They're removing Peterson merchandise from store shelves in the Twin Cities.

Anheiser-Busch also voiced their displeasure at FIFA prior to the start of the World Cup - they didn't do anything though.

Other than change the laws in several states in Brazil regarding beer sales in stadiums?

FIFA got the laws changed for Bud and that was done more than a year in advance.

 

[Yankee23Fan]

Senator Al Franken.

I will literally never believe that.

 

[D-Day]

Watching and listening to all of the ESPN talking heads bashing the NFL, owners, commissioner and players. Hey ESPN, you want to make a statement to the NFL, don't broadcast the nexWorry about your winless franchiset Monday

night football game. YOU put YOUR money where your mouth is.

That is not how business partners operate, especially giving the long standing relationshipand money involved. By that logic, no fan should express their displeasure with how the NFL has handled things unless they plan on not watching football.

If you are staking the moral high ground on an issue that you feel is extremely important (not like instant replay), then YES, boycott the games. However, small groups of fans do not hold the power of ESPN to bring about change.

 

[Baloney Sandwich]

Watching and listening to all of the ESPN talking heads bashing the NFL, owners, commissioner and players. Hey ESPN, you want to make a

statement to the NFL, don't broadcast the nexWorry about your winless franchiset Monday

night football game. YOU put YOUR money where your mouth is.

That is not how business partners operate, especially giving the long standing relationship

and money involved. By that logic, no fan should express their displeasure with how the

NFL has handled things unless they plan on not watching football.

If you are staking the moral high ground on an issue that you feel is extremely important (not like instant replay), then YES, boycott the games. However, small groups of fans do not hold the power of ESPN to bring about change.

A few talking heads on ESPN don't represent ESPN Inc's feelings on this subject.

 

[fatness]

The growing Peterson fan club.

Minnesota governor wants Peterson suspended.

Minnesota senator wants Peterson deactivated

Radisson pulls sponsorship of Vikings

Nike pulls Peterson merchandise from Twin Cities stores

Vikings and St. Joseph’s Home for Children "mutually agree" to cancel Vikings charity appearance there

Peterson’s “All Day Foundation” is on hold

Pharmaceutical firm cuts ties with Peterson

Peterson's image removed from Wheaties website

You can't fight Wheaties. F'n breakfast of champions.

 

[Sinn Fein]

All last week, the NFL was dealing with fallout from the Adrian Peterson and Ray Rice scandals. But when it came to ratings, it was a touchdown.

The NFL had the top three broadcasts in the U.S. last week with Sunday Night Football, Thursday Night Football, and Monday Night Football ranking 1, 2, and 3 respectively.

At the top of the heap was NBC's Sunday Night Football, which brought in a stellar 22.2 million viewers.

This number was up 8% from the same week a year ago, and made it the most-watched west coast Sunday prime time game ever.

CBS' inaugural night game was the network's highest rated Thursday night since 2007 with 20.8 million viewers tuning in.

ESPN's opening night Monday Night Football double header was 1 and 2 on cable last week with 13.7 million and 11.5 million viewers.

And as for last night's game, ESPN -- which had been covering both scandals non-stop -- still pulled a 9.9 in preliminary metered-market ratings which was actually up 7% from the week before.

The numbers don't lie. The Adrian Peterson and Ray Rice scandals may have given the league much unwanted attention last week, but when it comes to viewership and ratings the NFL is still in the end zone.

 

[bigbottom]

It's still only Tuesday. I think by Thursday Peterson will be deactivated again or suspended.

If the NFL is going to do anything, they need to do it before Sunday. If AP takes the field, it will be too late for the NFL to put the genie back in the bottle without looking completely incompetent, IMO.

 

[RhymesMcJuice]

It's still only Tuesday. I think by Thursday Peterson will be deactivated again or suspended.

If the NFL is going to do anything, they need to do it before Sunday. If AP takes the field, it will be too late for the NFL to put the genie back in the bottle without looking completely incompetent, IMO.

My thoughts as well.

 

[Sinn Fein]

It's still only Tuesday. I think by Thursday Peterson will be deactivated again or suspended.

If the NFL is going to do anything, they need to do it before Sunday. If AP takes the field, it will be too late for the NFL to put the genie back in the bottle without looking completely incompetent, IMO.

Practically speaking it needs to happen tomorrow, or not at all. In the past NFL issues suspensions by Tuesday to allow teams to game plan for the coming week. Now we are in a new era, with breaking stories by the hour - so the NFL may act a little out of character here.

I am sure they are struggling with what to do - act on clear public outrage, or let this play out and give Peterson a chance to play this out in the courts. I have not seen much player reaction to Peterson, so I imagine it is somewhat muted compared to Rice - and so I think the NFL has to weigh its own image, the rights of the players as collectively bargained, as well as holding a finger up and measuring public sentiment, and advertiser sentiment (who I am sure are measuring public sentiment also).

 

[Baloney Sandwich]

If he plays, the Saints defensive players should get together and discuss taking out AP. Perhaps they could even have a monetary reward for sending him out of the game with an injury.

 

[comfortably numb]

If he plays, the Saints defensive players should get together and discuss taking out AP. Perhaps they could even have a monetary reward for sending him out of the game with an injury.

Ha.Would be funny if Goodell tweets a 100k bounty on ADP for the saints

 

[Sinn Fein]

If he plays, the Saints defensive players should get together and discuss taking out AP. Perhaps they could even have a monetary reward for sending him out of the game with an injury.

That would be rich. Peterson continues to play - Saints disbanded for the year for a second bounty violation.

 

[Ditkaless Wonders]

I think it's unlikely that Peterson gets convicted, because:

1. He's a famous celebrity.

2. The jury is in Texas.

3. A lot of people seem to be OK with this kind of "discipline".

4. Peterson has hired an expert, expensive attorney.

5. Peterson's attorney will turn this into a debate about corporal punishment.

Using history as my judge, Peterson will be found not guilty. It's up to the NFL and the Vikings to punish him. The Vikings have wimped out. Now it's up to the NFL.

I don't know. He's still a black man in East Texas.

He's a black feller in east Texas that played for Oklahoma and has hired an expensive out of state lawyer to try confuse matters. Also, his behavior could make them all lose their right to corporal punishment if they are not careful.

Montgomery County is essentially a Houston suburb (generally not considered East Texas) and AP's lawyer is a well-known Houstonian.

My bad.

 

[Zow]

Senator Al Franken.

I will literally never believe that.

He spoke at my law school during his first campaign. Tried to pass off some actual "plants" in the audience and dodged every question. It was awful.

He won because he ran against another knucklehead.

 

[KarmaPolice]

Wish we could wait until all the evidence is presented before people jump off the cliff.

Wait, besides the week old pictures and AP admitting that he gave his kid a whoopin'?

 

[Zow]

It's still only Tuesday. I think by Thursday Peterson will be deactivated again or suspended.

If the NFL is going to do anything, they need to do it before Sunday. If AP takes the field, it will be too late for the NFL to put the genie back in the bottle without looking completely incompetent, IMO.

Yep.

 

[Stinger Ray]

Senator Al Franken.

I will literally never believe that.

He spoke at my law school during his first campaign. Tried to pass off some actual "plants" in the audience and dodged every question. It was awful. He won because he ran against another knucklehead.

Franken seems very good at dodging the media and questions,

 

[KarmaPolice]

It's still only Tuesday. I think by Thursday Peterson will be deactivated again or suspended.

If the NFL is going to do anything, they need to do it before Sunday. If AP takes the field, it will be too late for the NFL to put the genie back in the bottle without looking completely incompetent, IMO.

Very

 

[fatness]

Wish we could wait until all the evidence is presented before people jump off the cliff.

Wait, besides the week old pictures and AP admitting that he gave his kid a whoopin'?

The switch is going to testify that the kid violently attacked it with his ###.

 

[fatness]

Special Olympics Minnesota backed out of its partnership with Peterson.

US Bank wants to buy naming rights for the new stadium. They're concerned about what's happening with Peterson.

U.S. Bank, which is rumored to be in the running for the naming rights to the team’s new stadium, said it is “monitoring the situation closely.”

 

[belljr]

So how long does his suspension have to be to appease the jackals

 

[Koya]

BigB hits it on the head. NFL needs to squash this before Sunday or this mess moves to full on ####show.

 

[RhymesMcJuice]

The "Straight from the Heart Ministries" was co-founded by Reggie White and Bill Horn, and has conducted everything from major food drives to homeless outreach programs to mission trips overseas.

 

[RhymesMcJuice]

BigB hits it on the head. NFL needs to squash this before Sunday or this mess moves to full on ####show.

Once he plays again this blows over.

 

[Stinger Ray]

BigB hits it on the head. NFL needs to squash this before Sunday or this mess moves to full on ####show.

Once he plays again this blows over.

You think if he plays Sunday all of this blows over?

 

[Koya]

BigB hits it on the head. NFL needs to squash this before Sunday or this mess moves to full on ####show.

Once he plays again this blows over.

He plays this weekend, its a full on disaster. Zero chance.

 

[RhymesMcJuice]

BigB hits it on the head. NFL needs to squash this before Sunday or this mess moves to full on ####show.

Once he plays again this blows over.

You think if he plays Sunday all of this blows over?

Sure, why not? There will be some other news story this weekend for people to get in a huff about.

 

[timschochet]

BigB hits it on the head. NFL needs to squash this before Sunday or this mess moves to full on ####show.

Once he plays again this blows over.

I'm sure that's what the Vikings are hoping for. But I don't see that happening.

 

[Apple Juice]

BigB hits it on the head. NFL needs to squash this before Sunday or this mess moves to full on ####show.

Once he plays again this blows over.

You think if he plays Sunday all of this blows over?

Sure, why not? There will be some other news story this weekend for people to get in a huff about.

Agree to an extent. If he plays this Sunday, which obviously is unlikely, there will be a ton of attention on him and he'll be the lead NFL story that seeps into national news. But after a week it would die down considerably.

Ray Rice almost feels like old news at this point. Controversial stories burn so white hot over the course of a few days that they burn out quickly. Some other story heats up and so on and so on.

 

[Stinger Ray]

BigB hits it on the head. NFL needs to squash this before Sunday or this mess moves to full on ####show.

Once he plays again this blows over.

You think if he plays Sunday all of this blows over?

Sure, why not? There will be some other news story this weekend for people to get in a huff about.

Not going to happen.

 

[bigbottom]

BigB hits it on the head. NFL needs to squash this before Sunday or this mess moves to full on ####show.

Once he plays again this blows over.

You think if he plays Sunday all of this blows over?

Sure, why not? There will be some other news story this weekend for people to get in a huff about.

Agree to an extent. If he plays this Sunday, which obviously is unlikely, there will be a ton of attention on him and he'll be the lead NFL story that seeps into national news. But after a week it would die down considerably.

Ray Rice almost feels like old news at this point. Controversial stories burn so white hot over the course of a few days that they burn out quickly. Some other story heats up and so on and so on.

It's easier for people to move on from the Ray Rice story because he's been punished for his transgressions. Of course, he's leading Sportscenter again tonight because the NFLPA filed an appeal of the indefinite suspension on his behalf today.

 

[timschochet]

During the season that Kobe Bryant was charged with rape, he continued to play for the Lakers, and was even cheered in the playoffs at the same time as he was going to hearings! I remember that clearly. There didn't seem to be any question of whether or not he should be suspended as I recall.

But perhaps the difference is that Kobe denied raping the girl. Peterson doesn't deny disciplining his son, he even admits that he might have gone too far, though he denies that it was abuse. So perhaps the reaction is a little different for this reason.

 

[gianmarco]

This all started with Goodell and his personal conduct policy/suspensions. This never used to take place anywhere. Guys played until they were sitting in a jail cell. And that's how it should still be.

You open up the can of worms and this is what you get. Do you suspend a guy who clearly did it? What if he likely did it? What if you have no idea? Do you only do it for a short time or an entire year? Which kinds of crimes are worse than others? Who makes the decision on that? What if the public outcry is strong and against what you already did, do you change it? Does the team do it or leave it to the NFL?

Want to keep it simple? Don't worry about suspending anyone. You can't play if you're in jail.

It was a horrible idea when Goodell first did it and it's only snowballed from there.

 

[bigbottom]

During the season that Kobe Bryant was charged with rape, he continued to play for the Lakers, and was even cheered in the playoffs at the same time as he was going to hearings! I remember that clearly. There didn't seem to be any question of whether or not he should be suspended as I recall.

But perhaps the difference is that Kobe denied raping the girl. Peterson doesn't deny disciplining his son, he even admits that he might have gone too far, though he denies that it was abuse. So perhaps the reaction is a little different for this reason.

I think the difference is that the Kobe incident didn't occur in 2014.

 

[Zow]

During the season that Kobe Bryant was charged with rape, he continued to play for the Lakers, and was even cheered in the playoffs at the same time as he was going to hearings! I remember that clearly. There didn't seem to be any question of whether or not he should be suspended as I recall.

But perhaps the difference is that Kobe denied raping the girl. Peterson doesn't deny disciplining his son, he even admits that he might have gone too far, though he denies that it was abuse. So perhaps the reaction is a little different for this reason.

I think the distinguishing factor between the two is the likability of the victims.

 

[dparker713]

During the season that Kobe Bryant was charged with rape, he continued to play for the Lakers, and was even cheered in the playoffs at the same time as he was going to hearings! I remember that clearly. There didn't seem to be any question of whether or not he should be suspended as I recall.

But perhaps the difference is that Kobe denied raping the girl. Peterson doesn't deny disciplining his son, he even admits that he might have gone too far, though he denies that it was abuse. So perhaps the reaction is a little different for this reason.

I think the distinguishing factor between the two is the likability of the victims.

So you're saying a woman accusing a mostly disliked basketball player wasn't sympathetic enough?