Alaska hunter bags world record grizzly bear (1 Viewer)

[Ned]

Not an Alaska state record.

Boone & Crockett, Pope and Young, etc have stupid record book rules. They still play a major role in conservation, though.

 

[TheIronSheik]

I could never hunt

I have never hunted in my life. And I have no desire to ever hunt.

But I'm not sure I understand why people are so against it.

 

[NCCommish]

I could never hunt

I have never hunted in my life. And I have no desire to ever hunt.

But I'm not sure I understand why people are so against it.

Well I have hunted. Pretty extensively. I gave it up though. Just got to the point I didn't want to shoot anything anymore. I would rather go on a photo safari than a shooting safari these days. Still hunting serves a purpose and also pays for a lot of conservation in this country.

 

[butcher boy]

I could never hunt

I have never hunted in my life. And I have no desire to ever hunt.

But I'm not sure I understand why people are so against it.

I'm not against it, per se. I understand the reasons and even benefits it can have to the ecosystem in some cases. I just personally don't get the "Wow, there's a rare beautiful animal, let's kill it!" mentality of it all. I also don't get the pride or sense of accomplishment that comes from using a gun from a safe distance as if it was some intense battle against nature. Kill the damn thing with a spear and I'll be impressed.

 

[Timmay]

I still think it's weird for people to kill things for fun.

I still think it's weird for people to pay other people to kill captive genetically engineered things for for food and then take issue with hunting.

but it's much more humane..

mmm that makes me hungry for some pork, chicken, beef and eggs. I am getting Chinese for lunch though, so I guess ill just have to settle for cat and dog instead.

 

[TheIronSheik]

I could never hunt

I have never hunted in my life. And I have no desire to ever hunt.

But I'm not sure I understand why people are so against it.

I'm not against it, per se. I understand the reasons and even benefits it can have to the ecosystem in some cases. I just personally don't get the "Wow, there's a rare beautiful animal, let's kill it!" mentality of it all. I also don't get the pride or sense of accomplishment that comes from using a gun from a safe distance as if it was some intense battle against nature. Kill the damn thing with a spear and I'll be impressed.

We are hunters, by nature. A bear's best weapon is his claws and teeth. Our best weapon is our intelligence. Why should we not use our strength?

I'm sure you never see a bear standing over a dead person while another bear walks up and says, "Wow. Big man. You used your claws on him when all he had was a stick. I hope you feel proud of yourself."

 

[BassNBrew]

I could never hunt

I have never hunted in my life. And I have no desire to ever hunt.

But I'm not sure I understand why people are so against it.

I'm not against it, per se. I understand the reasons and even benefits it can have to the ecosystem in some cases. I just personally don't get the "Wow, there's a rare beautiful animal, let's kill it!" mentality of it all. I also don't get the pride or sense of accomplishment that comes from using a gun from a safe distance as if it was some intense battle against nature. Kill the damn thing with a spear and I'll be impressed.

We are hunters, by nature. A bear's best weapon is his claws and teeth. Our best weapon is our intelligence. Why should we not use our strength?

I'm sure you never see a bear standing over a dead person while another bear walks up and says, "Wow. Big man. You used your claws on him when all he had was a stick. I hope you feel proud of yourself."

 

[Ned]

I could never hunt

I have never hunted in my life. And I have no desire to ever hunt.

But I'm not sure I understand why people are so against it.

I'm not against it, per se. I understand the reasons and even benefits it can have to the ecosystem in some cases. I just personally don't get the "Wow, there's a rare beautiful animal, let's kill it!" mentality of it all. I also don't get the pride or sense of accomplishment that comes from using a gun from a safe distance as if it was some intense battle against nature. Kill the damn thing with a spear and I'll be impressed.

We are hunters, by nature. A bear's best weapon is his claws and teeth. Our best weapon is our intelligence. Why should we not use our strength?

I'm sure you never see a bear standing over a dead person while another bear walks up and says, "Wow. Big man. You used your claws on him when all he had was a stick. I hope you feel proud of yourself."

 

[FigJam]

I couldn't be happier that some hillbilly has killed the world largest grizzly bear....hazahhh for humanity!

Agreed. Take down a grizzly with a knife, then you can be proud of it.

Your a friggin idiot...

 

[butcher boy]

I could never hunt

I have never hunted in my life. And I have no desire to ever hunt.

But I'm not sure I understand why people are so against it.

I'm not against it, per se. I understand the reasons and even benefits it can have to the ecosystem in some cases. I just personally don't get the "Wow, there's a rare beautiful animal, let's kill it!" mentality of it all. I also don't get the pride or sense of accomplishment that comes from using a gun from a safe distance as if it was some intense battle against nature. Kill the damn thing with a spear and I'll be impressed.

We are hunters, by nature. A bear's best weapon is his claws and teeth. Our best weapon is our intelligence. Why should we not use our strength?

I'm sure you never see a bear standing over a dead person while another bear walks up and says, "Wow. Big man. You used your claws on him when all he had was a stick. I hope you feel proud of yourself."

You kind of prove my point here. We are vastly more intelligent than the animals being hunted. So why is it such an accomplishment and why is there such a sense of pride in besting a bear with a gun from a great distance away?

 

[TheIronSheik]

I could never hunt

I have never hunted in my life. And I have no desire to ever hunt.

But I'm not sure I understand why people are so against it.

I'm not against it, per se. I understand the reasons and even benefits it can have to the ecosystem in some cases. I just personally don't get the "Wow, there's a rare beautiful animal, let's kill it!" mentality of it all. I also don't get the pride or sense of accomplishment that comes from using a gun from a safe distance as if it was some intense battle against nature. Kill the damn thing with a spear and I'll be impressed.

We are hunters, by nature. A bear's best weapon is his claws and teeth. Our best weapon is our intelligence. Why should we not use our strength?

I'm sure you never see a bear standing over a dead person while another bear walks up and says, "Wow. Big man. You used your claws on him when all he had was a stick. I hope you feel proud of yourself."

You kind of prove my point here. We are vastly more intelligent than the animals being hunted. So why is it such an accomplishment and why is there such a sense of pride in besting a bear with a gun from a great distance away?

Hunting is not as easy as you think. There is a lot more to it than just picking up a gun, standing somewhere safe and taking a shot at an animal. If you don't understand that, I'm not sure you're even smarter than the average bear, boo boo.

 

[butcher boy]

I could never hunt

I have never hunted in my life. And I have no desire to ever hunt.

But I'm not sure I understand why people are so against it.

I'm not against it, per se. I understand the reasons and even benefits it can have to the ecosystem in some cases. I just personally don't get the "Wow, there's a rare beautiful animal, let's kill it!" mentality of it all. I also don't get the pride or sense of accomplishment that comes from using a gun from a safe distance as if it was some intense battle against nature. Kill the damn thing with a spear and I'll be impressed.

We are hunters, by nature. A bear's best weapon is his claws and teeth. Our best weapon is our intelligence. Why should we not use our strength?

I'm sure you never see a bear standing over a dead person while another bear walks up and says, "Wow. Big man. You used your claws on him when all he had was a stick. I hope you feel proud of yourself."

You kind of prove my point here. We are vastly more intelligent than the animals being hunted. So why is it such an accomplishment and why is there such a sense of pride in besting a bear with a gun from a great distance away?

Hunting is not as easy as you think. There is a lot more to it than just picking up a gun, standing somewhere safe and taking a shot at an animal. If you don't understand that, I'm not sure you're even smarter than the average bear, boo boo.

Tell that to the bear.

 

[TheIronSheik]

I could never hunt

I have never hunted in my life. And I have no desire to ever hunt.

But I'm not sure I understand why people are so against it.

I'm not against it, per se. I understand the reasons and even benefits it can have to the ecosystem in some cases. I just personally don't get the "Wow, there's a rare beautiful animal, let's kill it!" mentality of it all. I also don't get the pride or sense of accomplishment that comes from using a gun from a safe distance as if it was some intense battle against nature. Kill the damn thing with a spear and I'll be impressed.

We are hunters, by nature. A bear's best weapon is his claws and teeth. Our best weapon is our intelligence. Why should we not use our strength?

I'm sure you never see a bear standing over a dead person while another bear walks up and says, "Wow. Big man. You used your claws on him when all he had was a stick. I hope you feel proud of yourself."

You kind of prove my point here. We are vastly more intelligent than the animals being hunted. So why is it such an accomplishment and why is there such a sense of pride in besting a bear with a gun from a great distance away?

Hunting is not as easy as you think. There is a lot more to it than just picking up a gun, standing somewhere safe and taking a shot at an animal. If you don't understand that, I'm not sure you're even smarter than the average bear, boo boo.

Tell that to the bear.

 

[butcher boy]

Let me frame it another way. Why is it seemingly a greater accomplishment to have bagged a bear this large over any other kill? Why take such a prideful photo over it like this kill was some great battle against nature? Isn't it a bigger target than usual, hence easier to hit? That's really the part I don't get. It's being presented like it was an epic battle, but as you even admit, humans are more intelligent and have such an advantage, how can it be considered as such?

 

[wilked]

Let me frame it another way. Why is it seemingly a greater accomplishment to have bagged a bear this large over any other kill? Why take such a prideful photo over it like this kill was some great battle against nature? Isn't it a bigger target than usual, hence easier to hit? That's really the part I don't get. It's being presented like it was an epic battle, but as you even admit, humans are more intelligent and have such an advantage, how can it be considered as such?

You must get really worked up when people take pictures of catching a large fish as well. What a bunch of a-holes, taking photos

 

[hagmania]

I only ever hunted tasty things, like deer. I don't like trophy hunting at all.

 

[wilked]

Vast majority of hunters are simply a lot more honest than all the people in here typing away with one hand and eating their burger / burrito / etc with the other.

I hunted often when I was younger. We have hunted since the day we came about as humans. Using a gun instead of a spear is not the huge distinction that people want it to be. What if he used a crossbow, would you feel that much better?

 

[NCCommish]

I could never hunt

I have never hunted in my life. And I have no desire to ever hunt.

But I'm not sure I understand why people are so against it.

I'm not against it, per se. I understand the reasons and even benefits it can have to the ecosystem in some cases. I just personally don't get the "Wow, there's a rare beautiful animal, let's kill it!" mentality of it all. I also don't get the pride or sense of accomplishment that comes from using a gun from a safe distance as if it was some intense battle against nature. Kill the damn thing with a spear and I'll be impressed.

We are hunters, by nature. A bear's best weapon is his claws and teeth. Our best weapon is our intelligence. Why should we not use our strength?

I'm sure you never see a bear standing over a dead person while another bear walks up and says, "Wow. Big man. You used your claws on him when all he had was a stick. I hope you feel proud of yourself."

You kind of prove my point here. We are vastly more intelligent than the animals being hunted. So why is it such an accomplishment and why is there such a sense of pride in besting a bear with a gun from a great distance away?

Hunting is not as easy as you think. There is a lot more to it than just picking up a gun, standing somewhere safe and taking a shot at an animal. If you don't understand that, I'm not sure you're even smarter than the average bear, boo boo.

Tell that to the bear.

Bears win against guns. Bears are wily. They will doubleback on their own trail and hunt you while you think you are hunting them. This whole idea that hunting is so easy seems to come from people who have never done it.

 

[butcher boy]

Let me frame it another way. Why is it seemingly a greater accomplishment to have bagged a bear this large over any other kill? Why take such a prideful photo over it like this kill was some great battle against nature? Isn't it a bigger target than usual, hence easier to hit? That's really the part I don't get. It's being presented like it was an epic battle, but as you even admit, humans are more intelligent and have such an advantage, how can it be considered as such?

You must get really worked up when people take pictures of catching a large fish as well. What a bunch of a-holes, taking photos

Apples and oranges. And I'm not calling anyone an #####.

 

[TheIronSheik]

Let me frame it another way. Why is it seemingly a greater accomplishment to have bagged a bear this large over any other kill? Why take such a prideful photo over it like this kill was some great battle against nature? Isn't it a bigger target than usual, hence easier to hit? That's really the part I don't get. It's being presented like it was an epic battle, but as you even admit, humans are more intelligent and have such an advantage, how can it be considered as such?

Again, you are clueless on what it takes to hunt an animal. It is a battle. As I've said, I've never hunted. So obviously I've never hunted bears. But I'm willing to guess that one shot won't always take down a bear. It takes great marksmanship to be able to shoot an animal. And knowing that that bear could kill you if you mess up makes it a pretty major battle.

 

[butcher boy]

I could never hunt

I have never hunted in my life. And I have no desire to ever hunt.

But I'm not sure I understand why people are so against it.

I'm not against it, per se. I understand the reasons and even benefits it can have to the ecosystem in some cases. I just personally don't get the "Wow, there's a rare beautiful animal, let's kill it!" mentality of it all. I also don't get the pride or sense of accomplishment that comes from using a gun from a safe distance as if it was some intense battle against nature. Kill the damn thing with a spear and I'll be impressed.

We are hunters, by nature. A bear's best weapon is his claws and teeth. Our best weapon is our intelligence. Why should we not use our strength?

I'm sure you never see a bear standing over a dead person while another bear walks up and says, "Wow. Big man. You used your claws on him when all he had was a stick. I hope you feel proud of yourself."

You kind of prove my point here. We are vastly more intelligent than the animals being hunted. So why is it such an accomplishment and why is there such a sense of pride in besting a bear with a gun from a great distance away?

Hunting is not as easy as you think. There is a lot more to it than just picking up a gun, standing somewhere safe and taking a shot at an animal. If you don't understand that, I'm not sure you're even smarter than the average bear, boo boo.

Tell that to the bear.

Bears win against guns. Bears are wily. They will doubleback on their own trail and hunt you while you think you are hunting them. This whole idea that hunting is so easy seems to come from people who have never done it.

Would you say a man with a gun vs. a bear is an even match-up or even close to an even match-up? If it is, then I'll capitulate.

 

[TheIronSheik]

I could never hunt

I have never hunted in my life. And I have no desire to ever hunt.

But I'm not sure I understand why people are so against it.

I'm not against it, per se. I understand the reasons and even benefits it can have to the ecosystem in some cases. I just personally don't get the "Wow, there's a rare beautiful animal, let's kill it!" mentality of it all. I also don't get the pride or sense of accomplishment that comes from using a gun from a safe distance as if it was some intense battle against nature. Kill the damn thing with a spear and I'll be impressed.

We are hunters, by nature. A bear's best weapon is his claws and teeth. Our best weapon is our intelligence. Why should we not use our strength?

I'm sure you never see a bear standing over a dead person while another bear walks up and says, "Wow. Big man. You used your claws on him when all he had was a stick. I hope you feel proud of yourself."

You kind of prove my point here. We are vastly more intelligent than the animals being hunted. So why is it such an accomplishment and why is there such a sense of pride in besting a bear with a gun from a great distance away?

Hunting is not as easy as you think. There is a lot more to it than just picking up a gun, standing somewhere safe and taking a shot at an animal. If you don't understand that, I'm not sure you're even smarter than the average bear, boo boo.

Tell that to the bear.

Bears win against guns. Bears are wily. They will doubleback on their own trail and hunt you while you think you are hunting them. This whole idea that hunting is so easy seems to come from people who have never done it.

Would you say a man with a gun vs. a bear is an even match-up or even close to an even match-up? If it is, then I'll capitulate.

Why does it have to be even Steven?

This is confusing to me.

 

[NCCommish]

I could never hunt

I have never hunted in my life. And I have no desire to ever hunt.

But I'm not sure I understand why people are so against it.

I'm not against it, per se. I understand the reasons and even benefits it can have to the ecosystem in some cases. I just personally don't get the "Wow, there's a rare beautiful animal, let's kill it!" mentality of it all. I also don't get the pride or sense of accomplishment that comes from using a gun from a safe distance as if it was some intense battle against nature. Kill the damn thing with a spear and I'll be impressed.

We are hunters, by nature. A bear's best weapon is his claws and teeth. Our best weapon is our intelligence. Why should we not use our strength?

I'm sure you never see a bear standing over a dead person while another bear walks up and says, "Wow. Big man. You used your claws on him when all he had was a stick. I hope you feel proud of yourself."

You kind of prove my point here. We are vastly more intelligent than the animals being hunted. So why is it such an accomplishment and why is there such a sense of pride in besting a bear with a gun from a great distance away?

Hunting is not as easy as you think. There is a lot more to it than just picking up a gun, standing somewhere safe and taking a shot at an animal. If you don't understand that, I'm not sure you're even smarter than the average bear, boo boo.

Tell that to the bear.

Bears win against guns. Bears are wily. They will doubleback on their own trail and hunt you while you think you are hunting them. This whole idea that hunting is so easy seems to come from people who have never done it.

Would you say a man with a gun vs. a bear is an even match-up or even close to an even match-up? If it is, then I'll capitulate.

If you don't know what you are doing the bear will eat you and use your gun as a toothpick. I have seen bears shot right in the head and keep coming cause now they are just pissed off. Bears are an apex predator for a reason.

 

[KCitons]

The hunter in the article said he's not a trophy hunter. For those that are confused by this statement, it means that his sole purpose for hunting isn't to bag the biggest animal possible. The main purpose for hunting is to control the population. Often trophy hunters choose not to fill a tag, if it means shooting a lesser animal. I've hunted with a few people over the years that won't fill their deer tag, if they can't shoot a buck.

Lots of hunters spend their whole life hunting and harvesting average animals. When they are afforded an opportunity to take a trophy animal, it's just an extra accomplishment.

But, if it makes you feel better, pick up a hunting magazine sometime. They usually have a section where readers send in photos of their first deer. Often, it's kids shooting their first doe, with a 50 year old winchester lever action rifle, sans scope.

 

[butcher boy]

I could never hunt

I have never hunted in my life. And I have no desire to ever hunt.

But I'm not sure I understand why people are so against it.

I'm not against it, per se. I understand the reasons and even benefits it can have to the ecosystem in some cases. I just personally don't get the "Wow, there's a rare beautiful animal, let's kill it!" mentality of it all. I also don't get the pride or sense of accomplishment that comes from using a gun from a safe distance as if it was some intense battle against nature. Kill the damn thing with a spear and I'll be impressed.

We are hunters, by nature. A bear's best weapon is his claws and teeth. Our best weapon is our intelligence. Why should we not use our strength?

I'm sure you never see a bear standing over a dead person while another bear walks up and says, "Wow. Big man. You used your claws on him when all he had was a stick. I hope you feel proud of yourself."

You kind of prove my point here. We are vastly more intelligent than the animals being hunted. So why is it such an accomplishment and why is there such a sense of pride in besting a bear with a gun from a great distance away?

Hunting is not as easy as you think. There is a lot more to it than just picking up a gun, standing somewhere safe and taking a shot at an animal. If you don't understand that, I'm not sure you're even smarter than the average bear, boo boo.

Tell that to the bear.

Bears win against guns. Bears are wily. They will doubleback on their own trail and hunt you while you think you are hunting them. This whole idea that hunting is so easy seems to come from people who have never done it.

Would you say a man with a gun vs. a bear is an even match-up or even close to an even match-up? If it is, then I'll capitulate.

Why does it have to be even Steven?

This is confusing to me.

Because taking such a sense of accomplishment in winning such an uneven matchup is akin to an NFL Pro-Bowl team taking a similar sense of achievement in winning a game vs. a college team. Sure, it takes skill to play football, but if the competition is not on the same level, where's the real accomplishment?

It also reminds of that Seinfeld episode where Kramer took karate classes and was beating up all the 8 year olds.

 

[wilked]

All the more ironic coming from a username 'butcher boy'.

 

[wilked]

Guess what, people like taking photos when they catch a big striped bass, there is a sense of accomplishment even if you are using an advanced technology lure, lightweight high-test fishing line, and Shimano reel. In much the same way, people like taking photos of a kill, even more so when it is a big one. There is not a big difference there...

 

[Long Ball Larry]

I could never hunt

I have never hunted in my life. And I have no desire to ever hunt.

But I'm not sure I understand why people are so against it.

I'm not against it, per se. I understand the reasons and even benefits it can have to the ecosystem in some cases. I just personally don't get the "Wow, there's a rare beautiful animal, let's kill it!" mentality of it all. I also don't get the pride or sense of accomplishment that comes from using a gun from a safe distance as if it was some intense battle against nature. Kill the damn thing with a spear and I'll be impressed.

We are hunters, by nature. A bear's best weapon is his claws and teeth. Our best weapon is our intelligence. Why should we not use our strength?

I'm sure you never see a bear standing over a dead person while another bear walks up and says, "Wow. Big man. You used your claws on him when all he had was a stick. I hope you feel proud of yourself."

that would be a pretty good "The Far Side". (if it's not already)

 

[TheIronSheik]

Because taking such a sense of accomplishment in winning such an uneven matchup is akin to an NFL Pro-Bowl team taking a similar sense of achievement in winning a game vs. a college team. Sure, it takes skill to play football, but if the competition is not on the same level, where's the real accomplishment?

It also reminds of that Seinfeld episode where Kramer took karate classes and was beating up all the 8 year olds.

Do the players in your scenario get eaten by the Pro Bowl team if they lose?

You have no clue what you're talking about.

 

[Frostillicus]

I'm not a hunter but the anti-hunter people are weird.

 

[KCitons]

Because taking such a sense of accomplishment in winning such an uneven matchup is akin to an NFL Pro-Bowl team taking a similar sense of achievement in winning a game vs. a college team. Sure, it takes skill to play football, but if the competition is not on the same level, where's the real accomplishment?

It also reminds of that Seinfeld episode where Kramer took karate classes and was beating up all the 8 year olds.

Do the players in your scenario get eaten by the Pro Bowl other team if they lose?

You have no clue what you're talking about.

Only if we're talking about women's softball.

 

[butcher boy]

Because taking such a sense of accomplishment in winning such an uneven matchup is akin to an NFL Pro-Bowl team taking a similar sense of achievement in winning a game vs. a college team. Sure, it takes skill to play football, but if the competition is not on the same level, where's the real accomplishment?

It also reminds of that Seinfeld episode where Kramer took karate classes and was beating up all the 8 year olds.

Do the players in your scenario get eaten by the Pro Bowl team if they lose?

You have no clue what you're talking about.

If they did, it wouldn't change the fact that it'd be a lopsided matchup.

 

[TheIronSheik]

Because taking such a sense of accomplishment in winning such an uneven matchup is akin to an NFL Pro-Bowl team taking a similar sense of achievement in winning a game vs. a college team. Sure, it takes skill to play football, but if the competition is not on the same level, where's the real accomplishment?

It also reminds of that Seinfeld episode where Kramer took karate classes and was beating up all the 8 year olds.

Do the players in your scenario get eaten by the Pro Bowl team if they lose?

You have no clue what you're talking about.

If they did, it wouldn't change the fact that it'd be a lopsided matchup.

Wut?

 

[Ned]

I'm not against it, per se. I understand the reasons and even benefits it can have to the ecosystem in some cases. I just personally don't get the "Wow, there's a rare beautiful animal, let's kill it!" mentality of it all. I also don't get the pride or sense of accomplishment that comes from using a gun from a safe distance as if it was some intense battle against nature. Kill the damn thing with a spear and I'll be impressed.

We are hunters, by nature. A bear's best weapon is his claws and teeth. Our best weapon is our intelligence. Why should we not use our strength? I'm sure you never see a bear standing over a dead person while another bear walks up and says, "Wow. Big man. You used your claws on him when all he had was a stick. I hope you feel proud of yourself."

You kind of prove my point here. We are vastly more intelligent than the animals being hunted. So why is it such an accomplishment and why is there such a sense of pride in besting a bear with a gun from a great distance away?

Hunting is not as easy as you think. There is a lot more to it than just picking up a gun, standing somewhere safe and taking a shot at an animal. If you don't understand that, I'm not sure you're even smarter than the average bear, boo boo.

Tell that to the bear.

Bears win against guns. Bears are wily. They will doubleback on their own trail and hunt you while you think you are hunting them. This whole idea that hunting is so easy seems to come from people who have never done it.

Would you say a man with a gun vs. a bear is an even match-up or even close to an even match-up? If it is, then I'll capitulate.

Why does it have to be even Steven? This is confusing to me.

Because taking such a sense of accomplishment in winning such an uneven matchup is akin to an NFL Pro-Bowl team taking a similar sense of achievement in winning a game vs. a college team. Sure, it takes skill to play football, but if the competition is not on the same level, where's the real accomplishment?

It also reminds of that Seinfeld episode where Kramer took karate classes and was beating up all the 8 year olds.

I've had an article written about a deer I took 2 years and you bet your ### I was grinning from ear to ear in the pics. I've spent almost 20yrs hunting (we primarily eat venison in our house) and had never seen that caliber of animal before and doubt I ever will again. It absolutely was a proud moment of mine. Call me weird or a freak, I guess.

I can understand you not getting it since you've never hunted before. As someone else said, there's a lot more to hunting than just walking into the woods and shooting. Most hunters put in a ton of work before they even step foot in the woods trying to figure out the patterns. There's not a bear standing behind every tree just waiting to be shot.

You keep looking at the gun as the only thing that matters, but it doesn't. I didn't read the entire article, but did they say how old that bear was? They don't get big over night for a reason; they're a hell of a lot smarter than you give them credit for. They know the woods better than you know your own living room. They'll smell you coming from hundreds of yards away (not exaggerating) and will be doubling back on your trail without you even realizing they were there in the first place.

Another thing you don't realize is the hunt is more than just killing. Lots of hunter hunt together as a group (family, friends, etc). I have some of my best memories growing up as a kid going on hunts with my dad and friends and guess what? Almost all of those memories are memories of hunts where we didn't kill a thing. Hell, sometimes we had a blast and didn't see a single critter.

 

[butcher boy]

Because taking such a sense of accomplishment in winning such an uneven matchup is akin to an NFL Pro-Bowl team taking a similar sense of achievement in winning a game vs. a college team. Sure, it takes skill to play football, but if the competition is not on the same level, where's the real accomplishment?

It also reminds of that Seinfeld episode where Kramer took karate classes and was beating up all the 8 year olds.

Do the players in your scenario get eaten by the Pro Bowl team if they lose?

You have no clue what you're talking about.

If they did, it wouldn't change the fact that it'd be a lopsided matchup.

Wut?

The pro-bowl team isn't going to lose, so it doesn't matter if anyone's getting eaten. Probably wasn't the best analogy but it's close.

This is getting off track and blown out of proportion. I'm not anti-hunting. I just don't get the seemingly overblown sense of accomplishment from an individual kill such as this. Again, if I'm wrong about humans having a huge advantage over bears, I'll capitulate and agree that this was a huge accomplishment for this hunter.

 

[wilked]

I'll capitulate and agree that this was a huge accomplishment for this hunter.

 

[Otis]

Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeehaw!!!!!!

 

[SWC]

brohans i go hunting for deer every fall in wisky up here and i shoot deer because i like to eat venison i usually just shoot does if i have a tag and take the first one that i get a shot at it take a lot of patience to sit still long enough and quiet enough to get a shot at a deer and any little sound especially during gun season will get them running away from you faster than you can imagine and let me say this after you shoot one there is a mix of being happy but also of being very sad because you did just end a life i hunt because my dad hunted and his dad before him and probably my great grandad to and all of my uncles and cousins like i said i like venison and for the price of my tag and a few bullets i can have enough to last me a year and i could never buy the same amount at a store for even close to the cost of the tag and i eat meat and am a predator so i do what a predator does which is stock my freezer up and hey if doing that helps control the population and puts money in to the resource and helps prevent deer versus car accidents and keeps down insurance rates then i am happy that good stuff results as well so hey that is what i am about take that to the bank brohans

 

[SWC]

and one more thing up here in wisky at least the deer heard is so big that certain types of trees that take a long time to grow have basically been eliminated from the ecosystem because the deer graze them down before they can be established see the thing is we removed the wolves and when you remove the wolves you basically let the deer heard run wild and grow so like it or not the management decisions we make have a big impact on the resource and one tool in the dnrs bag of tricks is to use man as a control device like i said i have hunted a long time and heard all the arguments in the world but basically it comes down to hunting is needed because of other choices we make and have made so i guess rip this guy a new one like we always do around here but hey it is what it is take that to the bank brohans

 

[TheIronSheik]

brohans i go hunting for deer every fall in wisky up here and i shoot deer because i like to eat venison i usually just shoot does if i have a tag and take the first one that i get a shot at it take a lot of patience to sit still long enough and quiet enough to get a shot at a deer and any little sound especially during gun season will get them running away from you faster than you can imagine and let me say this after you shoot one there is a mix of being happy but also of being very sad because you did just end a life i hunt because my dad hunted and his dad before him and probably my great grandad to and all of my uncles and cousins like i said i like venison and for the price of my tag and a few bullets i can have enough to last me a year and i could never buy the same amount at a store for even close to the cost of the tag and i eat meat and am a predator so i do what a predator does which is stock my freezer up and hey if doing that helps control the population and puts money in to the resource and helps prevent deer versus car accidents and keeps down insurance rates then i am happy that good stuff results as well so hey that is what i am about take that to the bank brohans

and one more thing up here in wisky at least the deer heard is so big that certain types of trees that take a long time to grow have basically been eliminated from the ecosystem because the deer graze them down before they can be established see the thing is we removed the wolves and when you remove the wolves you basically let the deer heard run wild and grow so like it or not the management decisions we make have a big impact on the resource and one tool in the dnrs bag of tricks is to use man as a control device like i said i have hunted a long time and heard all the arguments in the world but basically it comes down to hunting is needed because of other choices we make and have made so i guess rip this guy a new one like we always do around here but hey it is what it is take that to the bank brohans

These could be very good posts, but I can honestly tell you I don't read it.

 

[NCCommish]

and one more thing up here in wisky at least the deer heard is so big that certain types of trees that take a long time to grow have basically been eliminated from the ecosystem because the deer graze them down before they can be established see the thing is we removed the wolves and when you remove the wolves you basically let the deer heard run wild and grow so like it or not the management decisions we make have a big impact on the resource and one tool in the dnrs bag of tricks is to use man as a control device like i said i have hunted a long time and heard all the arguments in the world but basically it comes down to hunting is needed because of other choices we make and have made so i guess rip this guy a new one like we always do around here but hey it is what it is take that to the bank brohans

True

 

[NCCommish]

brohans i go hunting for deer every fall in wisky up here and i shoot deer because i like to eat venison i usually just shoot does if i have a tag and take the first one that i get a shot at it take a lot of patience to sit still long enough and quiet enough to get a shot at a deer and any little sound especially during gun season will get them running away from you faster than you can imagine and let me say this after you shoot one there is a mix of being happy but also of being very sad because you did just end a life i hunt because my dad hunted and his dad before him and probably my great grandad to and all of my uncles and cousins like i said i like venison and for the price of my tag and a few bullets i can have enough to last me a year and i could never buy the same amount at a store for even close to the cost of the tag and i eat meat and am a predator so i do what a predator does which is stock my freezer up and hey if doing that helps control the population and puts money in to the resource and helps prevent deer versus car accidents and keeps down insurance rates then i am happy that good stuff results as well so hey that is what i am about take that to the bank brohans

and one more thing up here in wisky at least the deer heard is so big that certain types of trees that take a long time to grow have basically been eliminated from the ecosystem because the deer graze them down before they can be established see the thing is we removed the wolves and when you remove the wolves you basically let the deer heard run wild and grow so like it or not the management decisions we make have a big impact on the resource and one tool in the dnrs bag of tricks is to use man as a control device like i said i have hunted a long time and heard all the arguments in the world but basically it comes down to hunting is needed because of other choices we make and have made so i guess rip this guy a new one like we always do around here but hey it is what it is take that to the bank brohans

These could be very good posts, but I can honestly tell you I don't read it.

SWC always brings the common sense and you can take that to the bank.

 

[NCCommish]

brohans i go hunting for deer every fall in wisky up here and i shoot deer because i like to eat venison i usually just shoot does if i have a tag and take the first one that i get a shot at it take a lot of patience to sit still long enough and quiet enough to get a shot at a deer and any little sound especially during gun season will get them running away from you faster than you can imagine and let me say this after you shoot one there is a mix of being happy but also of being very sad because you did just end a life i hunt because my dad hunted and his dad before him and probably my great grandad to and all of my uncles and cousins like i said i like venison and for the price of my tag and a few bullets i can have enough to last me a year and i could never buy the same amount at a store for even close to the cost of the tag and i eat meat and am a predator so i do what a predator does which is stock my freezer up and hey if doing that helps control the population and puts money in to the resource and helps prevent deer versus car accidents and keeps down insurance rates then i am happy that good stuff results as well so hey that is what i am about take that to the bank brohans

And if you don't you shouldn't be hunting. Everyone I know who hunts get no specific joy from the killing. The thrill of the hunt sure but the prey should be respected.

 

[SWC]

oh there are lots of good things about hunting like the comaradarie of the camp and the fact that it gets you outside and away from the bube tube and the fact that it makes you learn the rules about safely handling a firearm and the respect that they deserve and that really you do not need the fully auto stuff to do the job and the respect that you trulely gain for all creatures when you take the life of prey but hey i also say i know it is not for some people and that some people will say it is horrible but frankly i have been to veal mills and see how we raise calves in pens that are about a foot bigger than them just to kill them well for my dollar if i am going to eat meat it is going to be some meat that i took the effort and time and skill to get versus plopping some money down at a cash register but like i said it is a choice and i made mine and the iron sheek dances in a hula skirt and it is not pretty but he will never even read that so bam another great prank by the old swcer take that to the bank brohans

 

[butcher boy]

brohans i go hunting for deer every fall in wisky up here and i shoot deer because i like to eat venison i usually just shoot does if i have a tag and take the first one that i get a shot at it take a lot of patience to sit still long enough and quiet enough to get a shot at a deer and any little sound especially during gun season will get them running away from you faster than you can imagine and let me say this after you shoot one there is a mix of being happy but also of being very sad because you did just end a life i hunt because my dad hunted and his dad before him and probably my great grandad to and all of my uncles and cousins like i said i like venison and for the price of my tag and a few bullets i can have enough to last me a year and i could never buy the same amount at a store for even close to the cost of the tag and i eat meat and am a predator so i do what a predator does which is stock my freezer up and hey if doing that helps control the population and puts money in to the resource and helps prevent deer versus car accidents and keeps down insurance rates then i am happy that good stuff results as well so hey that is what i am about take that to the bank brohans

And if you don't you shouldn't be hunting. Everyone I know who hunts get no specific joy from the killing. The thrill of the hunt sure but the prey should be respected.

Then why take a picture of yourself with a big ### grin in front of the bloody corpse you're apparently sad about killing?

 

[butcher boy]

oh there are lots of good things about hunting like the comaradarie of the camp and the fact that it gets you outside and away from the bube tube and the fact that it makes you learn the rules about safely handling a firearm and the respect that they deserve and that really you do not need the fully auto stuff to do the job and the respect that you trulely gain for all creatures when you take the life of prey but hey i also say i know it is not for some people and that some people will say it is horrible but frankly i have been to veal mills and see how we raise calves in pens that are about a foot bigger than them just to kill them well for my dollar if i am going to eat meat it is going to be some meat that i took the effort and time and skill to get versus plopping some money down at a cash register but like i said it is a choice and i made mine and the iron sheek dances in a hula skirt and it is not pretty but he will never even read that so bam another great prank by the old swcer take that to the bank brohans

You have reached your quota of positive votes for the day

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[SWC]

here is what i think about pictures most guys do not take them but then again most fo the guys i know are like me and will shoot whatever they can get a shot at because it is about the food and tradition aspect not having a you know what measuring contest but i have taken pictures because sometimes you actually have something really big come in and you get a shot at it and hey it is sort of a sign that your skills paid off and you were able to take a nice animal so yeah i guess that makes me a jagbag if you think that it does but to me it is not about the photo it is about the tradition and the food and everything else that i said above and that is a part of me and sometimes i get pictures of it happening and hey i dance with the girl that brung me take that to the bank

 

[NCCommish]

brohans i go hunting for deer every fall in wisky up here and i shoot deer because i like to eat venison i usually just shoot does if i have a tag and take the first one that i get a shot at it take a lot of patience to sit still long enough and quiet enough to get a shot at a deer and any little sound especially during gun season will get them running away from you faster than you can imagine and let me say this after you shoot one there is a mix of being happy but also of being very sad because you did just end a life i hunt because my dad hunted and his dad before him and probably my great grandad to and all of my uncles and cousins like i said i like venison and for the price of my tag and a few bullets i can have enough to last me a year and i could never buy the same amount at a store for even close to the cost of the tag and i eat meat and am a predator so i do what a predator does which is stock my freezer up and hey if doing that helps control the population and puts money in to the resource and helps prevent deer versus car accidents and keeps down insurance rates then i am happy that good stuff results as well so hey that is what i am about take that to the bank brohans

And if you don't you shouldn't be hunting. Everyone I know who hunts get no specific joy from the killing. The thrill of the hunt sure but the prey should be respected.

Then why take a picture of yourself with a big ### grin in front of the bloody corpse you're apparently sad about killing?

You haven't dealt with the last answer I gave you, you don't get another one.

 

[wilked]

Butcher, I bet if you follow these links you can find the instagram / flickr account and chastise some of these people for smiling next to their kill as well. How dare they be proud

https://www.google.com/search?q=first+deer&es_sm=122&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=jBttU-H9Cu7esATLmoGYCg&ved=0CAYQ_AUoAQ&biw=1680&bih=925

I don't know about you but I would like to see a bit more remorse from this fella as well link

 

[butcher boy]

brohans i go hunting for deer every fall in wisky up here and i shoot deer because i like to eat venison i usually just shoot does if i have a tag and take the first one that i get a shot at it take a lot of patience to sit still long enough and quiet enough to get a shot at a deer and any little sound especially during gun season will get them running away from you faster than you can imagine and let me say this after you shoot one there is a mix of being happy but also of being very sad because you did just end a life i hunt because my dad hunted and his dad before him and probably my great grandad to and all of my uncles and cousins like i said i like venison and for the price of my tag and a few bullets i can have enough to last me a year and i could never buy the same amount at a store for even close to the cost of the tag and i eat meat and am a predator so i do what a predator does which is stock my freezer up and hey if doing that helps control the population and puts money in to the resource and helps prevent deer versus car accidents and keeps down insurance rates then i am happy that good stuff results as well so hey that is what i am about take that to the bank brohans

And if you don't you shouldn't be hunting. Everyone I know who hunts get no specific joy from the killing. The thrill of the hunt sure but the prey should be respected.

Then why take a picture of yourself with a big ### grin in front of the bloody corpse you're apparently sad about killing?

You haven't dealt with the last answer I gave you, you don't get another one.

Ok. But you didn't answer my last question either.