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With all due respect to Ronaldinho and Ronaldo, I thought Henry was the best player in the world during the Invincibles era of 2003-2005. Graceful and prolific and multi-faceted all at once. Only negative I read about him is that his greatest team achievements (WC 1998 and the Barcelona Champions League crown) happened before/after his prime. That said, he was the central catalyst for two EPL trophies and had an important role in Euro 2000. Love the player and the pick

 
With all due respect to Ronaldinho and Ronaldo, I thought Henry was the best player in the world during the Invincibles era of 2003-2005. Graceful and prolific and multi-faceted all at once. Only negative I read about him is that his greatest team achievements (WC 1998 and the Barcelona Champions League crown) happened before/after his prime. That said, he was the central catalyst for two EPL trophies and had an important role in Euro 2000. Love the player and the pick
henry with the invincibles* was amazing. aside from all the skills, goals, etc- one of the things I loved about his game were his corners- always driven hard right to the perfect spot around the six, whether inswing or outswing. before him, I really only noticed guys floating the ball across- he just smashed them.

* and by invincibles, I mean the NY REd Stars.

 
With all due respect to Ronaldinho and Ronaldo, I thought Henry was the best player in the world during the Invincibles era of 2003-2005. Graceful and prolific and multi-faceted all at once. Only negative I read about him is that his greatest team achievements (WC 1998 and the Barcelona Champions League crown) happened before/after his prime. That said, he was the central catalyst for two EPL trophies and had an important role in Euro 2000. Love the player and the pick
Yeah, I recall him being very young for that WC, but the Barca title was after his Arsenal stint, no?

 
With all due respect to Ronaldinho and Ronaldo, I thought Henry was the best player in the world during the Invincibles era of 2003-2005. Graceful and prolific and multi-faceted all at once. Only negative I read about him is that his greatest team achievements (WC 1998 and the Barcelona Champions League crown) happened before/after his prime. That said, he was the central catalyst for two EPL trophies and had an important role in Euro 2000. Love the player and the pick
Henry was robbed in 2003.  He was obviously hurt by AFC's lack of Champions League Success.  His third place finish in 2006 is actually a bit weird.  Pretty far from his best year. 

 
Yeah, I recall him being very young for that WC, but the Barca title was after his Arsenal stint, no?
He was at the end of his prime when he left Arsenal for Barca. And while he scored ~20 goals for Barca the year they won the CL, but he wasnt the Talisman© he had been at Highbury. It was clearly Messi/Eto'o/Xavi/Iniesta who were running the show.

 
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Yeah, I recall him being very young for that WC, but the Barca title was after his Arsenal stint, no?
It was, but people forget how good he was for Barca in the 2008-09 season.  19 in 29 in La Liga.  6 in 12 in the Champions League.  The Messi/Eto'o/Henry trident was pretty awesome that year. 

 
It was, but people forget how good he was for Barca in the 2008-09 season.  19 in 29 in La Liga.  6 in 12 in the Champions League.  The Messi/Eto'o/Henry trident was pretty awesome that year. 
True, but to be fair. Pedro and Alexis Sanchez had similar productivity in the same role. Not to take anything away from those players, as both are exceptional, but its not like Henry was indispensable to the team like he was at Arsenal.

 
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The first wonderkid I look for in Football Manager is a defensive midfielder.  Not only do great defensive midfielders shore up the defense, but they are key in launching quick counterattacks.

One of the three Dutchmen with the early 90's AC Milan team protecting the likes of Maldini and Baresi as well as scoring key goals.  He then transferred back to Ajax to nick the 94-95 Champions League title from his old club as a central defender.

Frank Rijkaard

I will post more, but I know people want to get moving.


Ajax (12)


Milan (10) [7]

Netherlands

 
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1.01 Lionel Messi, CAM, Argentina

2.17 Gianluigi Buffon, GK, Italy

3.01 Patrick Vieira, DM, France

Will add some blah blah blah shortly.

 
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Buffon was one of the two I thought may go before Neuer. Oddly, the one I thought would go before both of them is still on the board.

 
I actually hope jones takes one of the two players on my list, because I'm torn between them both and I don't think there's a chance in hell they make it to me in the 4th.

 
Pleasantly surprised at the Viera and Rijkaard picks.  Also a bit pissed that my plan to fill my midfield with snarling menaces covering every blade of grass is apparently not so unique. 

 
Have always loved Vieira -- his career dovetails just about perfectly with my footy watching.

Captained his French club at 19.

Transferred to Arsenal and won the league at 21.

Won 3 club titles at Arsenal, 2 at Juve (vacated), and 3 at Inter.

Part of 7 domestic cup winners.

Squad player on the 1998 World Cup winning team.  Key piece of the 2000 Euro winning side and the 2006 World Cup runners-up, where he was named one of the tournament's leading players in both cases.

PFA Player of the Year in 2000/2001 and named to Team of the Year every season from 1999 to 2004.

A true two-way DM who will win the ball and get it forward in dangerous positions.

 
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I actually hope jones takes one of the two players on my list, because I'm torn between them both and I don't think there's a chance in hell they make it to me in the 4th.
I suspect I know who the two are and given my first two picks it's not an easy choice for me either.

I'm going to go with Ruud Gullit.

Pele, Rijkaard, Gullit

Ruud Gullit  was the captain of the Netherlands national team that was victorious at Euro 88 and was also a member of the squad for the 1990 World Cup and Euro 92.

At club level, in 1987 he moved from PSV Eindhoven to Milan for a world record transfer fee.[4] Easily recognizable with his distinctive dreadlocks, he was part of the famed Dutch trio at Milan which included Marco van Basten and Frank Rijkaard. Gullit won three Serie A titles and two European Cups with Milan.

Gullit was named the Ballon d'Or in 1987 and the World Soccer Player of the Year in 1987 and 1989. Normally an attacking midifielder,[5] he was a versatile player, playing in numerous positions during his career.


HFC Haarlem[47]

Feyenoord[47]

PSV Eindhoven[47]

AC Milan[47]

Sampdoria[47]

Chelsea[47]

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I was really torn with this pick because both players would take me in different directions on where I want to go with this team. But, since the one I'm not taking plays a kind of subjective position in terms of GOAT discussions, I'm going with a guy whose legacy isn't in any doubt whatsoever...

3.03 - Didi, Center Midfield, Brazil

Didi is considered to be one of the greatest midfielders in the sport renowned for his range of passing, stamina and technique. He became famous for inventing the folha seca (dry leaf) free kicks, notably used by modern day players such as Cristiano Ronaldo and Juninho, where the ball would swerve downward unexpectedly at a point resulting in a goal.

Born in Rio de Janeiro, he nearly had his right leg amputated when he was 14 due to a severe infection. He recovered and played for some clubs in Campos dos Goytacazes. He became professional playing for Americano de Campos. He came to prominence when he joined Fluminense in 1949. During seven seasons with the club he won the Campeonato carioca in 1951 and 1952 Copa Rio.

During the 1954 World Cup he scored goals against Mexico national team and Yugoslavia national team, before Brazil's defeat to the favorites Hungary national team. This match was known as the Battle of Berne; Didi was involved with the brawl that followed this bad-tempered match.

At club level, he moved to Botafogo, winning the Campeonato Carioca (Rio state championship) in 1957. Didi had previously promised to walk from the Maracanã to his house, at the neighbourhood of Laranjeiras (9,4 km), in his kit if Botafogo won the championship; 5,000 Botafogo fans joined him as he did so.

His greatest achievement came at the 1958 FIFA World Cup where he was player of the tournament.[2] From midfield, he masterminded the first of his two FIFA World Cup successes for Brazil. In 68 international matches he scored 20 goals,[3] including a dozen using his trademark free-kicks.

In 1959 he was signed by Real Madrid of Spain. Despite his great reputation after the 1958 FIFA World Cup, he played only 19 matches with 6 goals for the Spaniards and often clashed with the team leader Alfredo Di Stéfano, who felt offended by the divide in the fans' attention with this newcomer; this situation precipitated his exit from the club. After success at the 1962 FIFA World Cup, he decided to become a coach.

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Cristiano Ronaldo           AMC                       AMR

                         Didi                     CM

LB                      CB                  CB                Cafu

                                         GK
Edit: Formatting lineup

 
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NICE pick with Gullit. Great player.
He's very versatile like Rijkaard.  He can play anywhere in the middle of the field.  I'm thinking behind Pele in the 4-2-3-1 or besides Rijkaard in the pivot as he is very good defensively.

Didi was my other option.  I would have loved to have Pele/Didi and Rijkaard/Gullit.

 
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Didi was my other option.  I would have loved to have Pele/Didi and Rijkaard/Gullit.
Pele/Didi would have been filthy. Now, I just have to decide who's going to take free kicks: Ronaldo or Didi. 

BTW, I feel sorry for any future player on my team that doesn't speak Portugese.

 
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Glad to hear... felt like I was taking him a little early.  Picking at the turn that always happens, but figured no one else was looking at him yet.

 
 This is the greatest thread ever.  A few observations: I always thought Yashin was named the "Black Octopus"; Ronaldinho is one of the most overrated, non-clutch players ever;  don't sleep on Giuseppe Meazza, & RHE; from a 12 yr old Roma fan's perspective, Falcao was always better than Zico on that '82 squad..he's the one who enabled everyone else to look & play so, well, Brazilian!  "The Engine", without the European hard edges & cogs.  Salutations, fellas...this is a pleasure to peruse, & I shall not muck it up anymore...(Floppo, Conte="SOD"!)

 

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