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How does it compare to $500M tax fraud?It’s not a relatively minor transgression.
How does it compare to $500M tax fraud?It’s not a relatively minor transgression.
Just caught one clip and a number of her responses as posted on CNN ...quite impressive.Anyone watching the Klobuchar town hall meeting? Doing very well IMO.
I don’t think Mitch is a great pick. The Democrats aren’t going to carry Louisiana regardless.Klobuchar is still my pick, with Harris and Booker rounding out my top 3. I don't know much about him, but Klobuchar and Sherrod Brown would be a kick-### ticket in the Midwest. I still like Mitch Landrieu for the VP pick too.
That was refreshingAnyone watching the Klobuchar town hall meeting? Doing very well IMO.
just caught the end but she was goodAnyone watching the Klobuchar town hall meeting? Doing very well IMO.
I actually like her which probably means she doesn't have much of a shot.Unbelievably refreshing to hear from a Democrat who says she would use the ballooning national debt to inform policy-making.
Took huge balls to say "no" to free college on the Town Hall...she's not "rock star" by any means but extremely articulate with a reserved sort of passion....sophisticated enough to understand how climate change affects myriad issues like migration.
I like her alot. If the Dems run of their far left nut jobs, I'm prolly just not going to vote.
She is done as a candidate.I actually like her which probably means she doesn't have much of a shot.
It's too early to say. But she needs to stand out in the debates, do well in Iowa, survive California and make it to a contested convention.She is done as a candidate.
Did you see her town hall? I will bet you 100 dollars at 50 to 1 odds.It's too early to say. But she needs to stand out in the debates, do well in Iowa, survive California and make it to a contested convention.
She's a rust belt and swing state Democrat. In Florida, the inspirational choice, Gillum, cost us the governor's office and the Senate seat.Im sure Klobuchar would do a good job, but it would be cool to have a Democrat tho
How do you know that a different candidate would have performed better in Florida? Why does the midwest have to hold the Democrats hostage strategy that seems to be popular? I'm telling you guys that if you want young people to get out and vote, then you are going to need someone to believe in.She's a rust belt and swing state Democrat. In Florida, the inspirational choice, Gillum, cost us the governor's office and the Senate seat.
The Senate seat was lost by not primarying the incumbent who should have been replaced years ago.She's a rust belt and swing state Democrat. In Florida, the inspirational choice, Gillum, cost us the governor's office and the Senate seat.
Young people don't voteHow do you know that a different candidate would have performed better in Florida? Why does the midwest have to hold the Democrats hostage strategy that seems to be popular? I'm telling you guys that if you want young people to get out and vote, then you are going to need someone to believe in.
Why wouldn't younger voters vote for Klobuchar? Is it because she doesn't believe in free stuff right away?How do you know that a different candidate would have performed better in Florida? Why does the midwest have to hold the Democrats hostage strategy that seems to be popular? I'm telling you guys that if you want young people to get out and vote, then you are going to need someone to believe in.
Perhaps. But almost everyone voted straight ticket for the top 3 statewide positions. Gillum had the shadow of an on-going FBI investigation. Race may have played a role too. Here are the margins: Gillum, -0.4%; Nelson, -0.25%, Fried, +0.08%. Gillum brought the ticket down. I think Gwen Graham would've brought the ticket up.The Senate seat was lost by not primarying the incumbent who should have been replaced years ago.
My fear is this will happen.Unbelievably refreshing to hear from a Democrat who says she would use the ballooning national debt to inform policy-making.
Took huge balls to say "no" to free college on the Town Hall...she's not "rock star" by any means but extremely articulate with a reserved sort of passion....sophisticated enough to understand how climate change affects myriad issues like migration.
I like her alot. If the Dems run of their far left nut jobs, I'm prolly just not going to vote.
still no one willing to be named.This latest NY Times story about Klobuchar as a boss is giving me second thoughts about her. She also hasn't seized the moment following her announcement the way people like Warren and Harris have. I still think she may be the candidate that gives the Dems the best chance to win (other than maybe Sherrod Brown, who they can't afford to lose in the Senate). But first impressions matter, and her first impression as a candidate is pretty much the opposite of the "Minnesota nice" angle I thought would work well for her.
That's true. But the flip side is that these are people who would likely benefit if she won- being a former staffer of the President of the United States can't be anything but good news for your career, even if you've fallen out of favor with her. Yet they're still willing to say things to the Times that will damage her chances.still no one willing to be named.
If making a staffer clean a comb is the worst oppo anyone has, she’ll be fine.That's true. But the flip side is that these are people who would likely benefit if she won- being a former staffer of the President of the United States can't be anything but good news for your career, even if you've fallen out of favor with her. Yet they're still willing to say things to the Times that will damage her chances.
I agree with where you're coming from, and I mentioned a few weeks ago that I tend to look down on abusive superiors, but some of the anecdotes in this story seem like stretches:This latest NY Times story about Klobuchar as a boss is giving me second thoughts about her. She also hasn't seized the moment following her announcement the way people like Warren and Harris have. I still think she may be the candidate that gives the Dems the best chance to win (other than maybe Sherrod Brown, who they can't afford to lose in the Senate). But first impressions matter, and her first impression as a candidate is pretty much the opposite of the "Minnesota nice" angle I thought would work well for her.
She's 100% in the right on the "co-sponsor" vs "supporter" thing, and I can sympathize with her unwillingness to accept "I didn't have time" as an excuse for most things.But her blistering feedback to staff was often substantially out of proportion to the offense, these former aides said. Word choice or grammatical issues could make Ms. Klobuchar especially furious, not only in prepared text but also in office meetings or common speech. Words like “straight-shooting” and “absolutely” were known to invite her scorn. She urged staff members never to say that another senator “led” something and asked them to call her a “co-sponsor” of legislation instead of a supporter, suggesting that the latter sounded weak.
Ms. Klobuchar’s exasperation often appeared connected to two factors: an abiding fear of being embarrassed in front of colleagues or in the press and the conviction that she works harder than her staff.
In one message, in which she said she had not been prepared properly for an event, Ms. Klobuchar reminded her team of the hours she kept.
“Please don’t claim lack of time,” she wrote, asking what else might explain their failure. “I flew in at one in the morning. I don’t have that luxury to blame lack of time. Unless YOU were up working at one am, and up again five am the next day, please don’t claim lack of time. That was when I was up.”
1. Every candidate that has announced is pretty much a lock to beat Trump. That should have little bearing.This latest NY Times story about Klobuchar as a boss is giving me second thoughts about her. She also hasn't seized the moment following her announcement the way people like Warren and Harris have. I still think she may be the candidate that gives the Dems the best chance to win (other than maybe Sherrod Brown, who they can't afford to lose in the Senate). But first impressions matter, and her first impression as a candidate is pretty much the opposite of the "Minnesota nice" angle I thought would work well for her.
I agree that you're a very good poster, but it sounds a bit weird for you to say it out loud in those terms.As one of the most articulate and intelligent posters on the board I'm kind of surprised at your second thoughts, actually.This latest NY Times story about Klobuchar as a boss is giving me second thoughts about her.
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I watched her CNN town hall and thought she was great and connected really well. Then she got a question from a guy about free college and she said she was not in favor of it. It was at that moment I realized there was no way in hell that she wins the Democrat nomination.I like her and I'm a conservative.
Yeah, right. Please.I watched her CNN town hall and thought she was great and connected really well. Then she got a question from a guy about free college and she said she was not in favor of it. It was at that moment I realized there was no way in hell that she wins the Democrat nomination.
Free college, lolI watched her CNN town hall and thought she was great and connected really well. Then she got a question from a guy about free college and she said she was not in favor of it. It was at that moment I realized there was no way in hell that she wins the Democrat nomination.
No shtick here sir, 100% serious. She is not on board with Medicare for all or the Green New Deal. You’ll see at the first debate how well this goes over.Yeah, right. Please.
As I said before in this thread. These stories will continue to come out. They are not made up. It is very well known in Washington. The woman is a tyrant. That’s doesn’t necessarily disqualify her but she’s an awful boss.This latest NY Times story about Klobuchar as a boss is giving me second thoughts about her. She also hasn't seized the moment following her announcement the way people like Warren and Harris have. I still think she may be the candidate that gives the Dems the best chance to win (other than maybe Sherrod Brown, who they can't afford to lose in the Senate). But first impressions matter, and her first impression as a candidate is pretty much the opposite of the "Minnesota nice" angle I thought would work well for her.
I am probably in better touch with what rank and file Democrats think than you are and most would probably find not supporting Medicare for all or the Green New Deal as being major disqualifiers (as those are left of center progressive positions).No shtick here sir, 100% serious. She is not on board with Medicare for all or the Green New Deal. You’ll see at the first debate how well this goes over.
She's out of step with the energized part of her party's base, but at least for now she has the "centrist/moderate" lane all to herself. I think that gives her a legitimate shot at the nomination. That might change if Biden and/or O'Rourke enter the race.No shtick here sir, 100% serious. She is not on board with Medicare for all or the Green New Deal. You’ll see at the first debate how well this goes over.
Sounds to me like she deals in reality, not fantasy.I am probably in better touch with what rank and file Democrats think than you are and most would probably find not supporting Medicare for all or the Green New Deal as being major disqualifiers (as those are left of center progressive positions).
Ok, so it sounds like we are in agreement.I am probably in better touch with what rank and file Democrats think than you are and most would probably find not supporting Medicare for all or the Green New Deal as being major disqualifiers (as those are left of center progressive positions).
Maybe the people will have enough common sense to understand millions of Semis, industrial and agricultural diesel equipment cannot and will not be replaced in a little over 10 years. Just maybe there are enough sensible Democrats( like Klobuchar) to realize getting these replaced by 2030 is not realistic and is just something we should try to achieve as best we can without crippling our economy. Maybe there are enough sensible Democrats that realize a nation now 22 trillion in debt cannot afford paying for 4 year college that will cost too much and that Obama’s idea of free 2 year schooling for associates degree and trade school can be done.No shtick here sir, 100% serious. She is not on board with Medicare for all or the Green New Deal. You’ll see at the first debate how well this goes over.
That would make a lot of sense, and oh by the way, if you're a math or science major with a high GPA, you get an additional year or two free.Maybe the people will have enough common sense to understand millions of Semis, industrial and agricultural diesel equipment cannot and will not be replaced in a little over 10 years. Just maybe there are enough sensible Democrats( like Klobuchar) to realize getting these replaced by 2030 is not realistic and is just something we should try to achieve as best we can without crippling our economy. Maybe there are enough sensible Democrats that realize a nation now 22 trillion in debt cannot afford paying for 4 year college that will cost too much and that Obama’s idea of free 2 year schooling for associates degree and trade school can be done.