Any Trading Cards guys? (Sports, etc) (2 Viewers)

[STEADYMOBBIN 22]

Ha,

Yea I'm not a starting lineup guy and when I have gotten them always hard to move. 

After my post I found this forum which is a bunch of collectors talking about them. One dude is sitting on like 20 cases of bulls SLU (which have Jordan’s in them). He was (allegedly) offered $20k for all of them. 

Mine are in my garage attic and they aren’t taking up much space so I’ll sit on them. Ive held them this long. Mine are mostly 90s Cowboys, Montana. Rice, I think a Griffey and Cal Ripken.

 

[Capella]

Cleaned out the garage this weekend and found a bunch of cards. One of those Griffey upper decks from 89 still in a plastic case with the screws. Looks perfect to me, but god only knows. Don’t want to deal with sending anything in and paying to get it graded so back in a bin I guess  

Luckily other retirement plans have worked out because 15-year-old me got this one wrong. 

 

[Nathan R. Jessep]

Cleaned out the garage this weekend and found a bunch of cards. One of those Griffey upper decks from 89 still in a plastic case with the screws. Looks perfect to me, but god only knows. Don’t want to deal with sending anything in and paying to get it graded so back in a bin I guess  

Luckily other retirement plans have worked out because 15-year-old me got this one wrong. 

well let's see that bad boy!!

A graded 9 (PSA) is ~$2-300. If you have a 10 on your hands it's upwards of $2-3k. 

 

[Courtjester]

I have hundreds and hundreds of SLUs all in package. I took a wall in one of my card rooms and installed huge sheets of peg board and got the retail hangers, It looks just like a you would see in a toy store, with probably 8-10 figures a hanger. 

I have the Headliners and most of the doubles sets, Pretty much all sports. I never got the 1989 Slam Dunk set--so I am always on the lookout for that, but people went off the rails on that one when the Last Dance came out. Finding one in a good box at a good price is challenging. 

Once McFarlane started doing figures--SLU's just died. I have maybe 25-30 of those, but just never got heavy into them.

 

[Major]

Football-l and baseball- Ive gots tons of late 70s, early 80s stuff and then a score 90 which is loaded with stud rookies but I know aren't worth anything. 

Then there’s all these starting line up figures. Sitting in boxes of Tupperware waiting for everyone to throw theirs away so mine can be worth something to my children??? (Wishful thinking on my part but I don’t want to just throw them in the trash.)

Haha, I'll take your Starting Lineup and raise you some Sportflics and 7-11 Action Coins.  I believe Starting Lineup started taking off with the late 80s bubble so likely overproduced plus everyone was taking care of them, not opening box, etc.  IIRC there may be a few valuable basketball figures worth looking up. 

 

[Capella]

well let's see that bad boy!!

A graded 9 (PSA) is ~$2-300. If you have a 10 on your hands it's upwards of $2-3k. 

Ok standby. Lol

 

[Major]

Ok standby. Lol

I thought I had a few UD Griffey 9s and 10s until someone informed me the back hologram really matters and must be perfectly centered and a bunch of other things.  

 

[caustic]

IMO the bubble is going to pop here as the novelty of card collecting goes by the wayside and the faux collectors/investors leave the hobby. At that point, I plan to pounce and get what I want as they look to unload stuff to fund their "next" thing.

I actually saw NBA/NHL packs in the wild a week ago at Target--couldn't believe my eyes. 

PSA is enjoying the continued demand but give it some time and they will adjust their prices. 

Yeah, a lot of the "investor" guys have already fled to the next big thing and retail wax is becoming much easier to find. Chronicles basketball is just sitting on shelves (and on Target's website). I've been enjoying this as Chronicles is such a fun rip. The singles might not be worth a ton but it's so nice to actually find a bunch of good rookies in a box. 

At the other end of the spectrum is Mosaic basketball, which I was also able to find sitting at Walmart last week. Got two hangers, and the only rookie parallel was an orange reactive Nico Mannion. Dreadful buy at $22 per box. 

 

[Capella]

well let's see that bad boy!!

A graded 9 (PSA) is ~$2-300. If you have a 10 on your hands it's upwards of $2-3k. 

Here ya go

 

[Capella]

I thought I had a few UD Griffey 9s and 10s until someone informed me the back hologram really matters and must be perfectly centered and a bunch of other things.  

Oh let me go look at that 

 

[Capella]

Back

 

[Major]

Back

I'll defer to the experts but I'm guessing PSA  6-7 range?  

 

[FairWarning]

Fanatics going for the kill after taking the MLB license away from Topps.

It’s a good thing as topps lost the MLBPA after this season.

 

[FairWarning]

Here ya go

I would get that out of the screw-down holder and into a one-touch.  Screw down holders can bend the corners if the screws are too tight.

 

[Capella]

I would get that out of the screw-down holder and into a one-touch.  Screw down holders can bend the corners if the screws are too tight.

It’s been in there since 1990 so damage is probably done, but I’ll do so. 

 

[Capella]

I'll defer to the experts but I'm guessing PSA  6-7 range?  

Not arguing but why? I certainly don’t know the difference but it all looks crisp to me. 

 

[Aloof]

Added them into a bigger lot I was working on moving to a local guy I sold to in the past.

I paid 400 for those and and about 25 other boxes.

I added that all into the lot for an extra 350 ($2300 total for about 200k cards) and kept the  87 sealed case, 91 UD  2 sealed boxes and 2 jumbo boxes. I'll have fun looking for the Jordan SP now.

The 87 is easy to move. Ewing it's still sealed. Should get 125 for that easily.

Find me some 90 Topps Cellos and then give them to me for free.  TIA.

 

[comfortably numb]

Here ya go

Lol @ fu 

So a 9 goes for $230

I just got one back from PSA last week. A 10 goes for $2k-2500

The screw down

if it doesn't have the recess for the card to fall into can have caused bad enough damage where PSA may not grade it because the size doesn't meet the requirements. 

If it doesn't have the recessed area..and you squeeze the sh%%t of the card as a kid would do figuring..this and bay ain't getting out of here!.... It can expand or the plastic will stick to the cards corners and pull up some paint.

I sent in 3 henderson rookies that were in screw downs that looked really good.

2 were not graded by psa 1 got a 6

Take it out...penny sleeve and top loader and you should be good. 1 touch is fine as well..I personally prefer the penny sleeve and top loader.

 

[Aloof]

Not arguing but why? I certainly don’t know the difference but it all looks crisp to me. 

Corners are jacked for one thing.  Number 2, it probably smells like you.

 

[comfortably numb]

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Ouch.. is that a penny sleeve or is that card misaligned in a recessed area...if the latter than three could be a sizeable bend in the card.

 

[Capella]

Ouch.. is that a penny sleeve or is that card misaligned in a recessed area...if the latter than three could be a sizeable bend in the card.

Misaligned. I had just taken it out for the first time 

 

[Major]

Not arguing but why? I certainly don’t know the difference but it all looks crisp to me. 

I know the feeling.  I was trying to value my collection after 25 years out of the game and so much changed.  What I considered NrMint or Mint in 1990 was often a PSA 5-7.  For your Griffey, the corners aren't sharp and the hologram in the back doesn't look centered.  Comf Numb or The Colonel will have a better handle on it though.  

 

[Capella]

Out of the screw case

 

[Capella]

I know the feeling.  I was trying to value my collection after 25 years out of the game and so much changed.  What I considered NrMint or Mint in 1990 was often a PSA 5-7.  For your Griffey, the corners aren't sharp and the hologram in the back doesn't look centered.  Comf Numb or The Colonel will have a better handle on it though.  

Oh well back in the box lol. Thought about this too much as it is. 

 

[comfortably numb]

I know the feeling.  I was trying to value my collection after 25 years out of the game and so much changed.  What I considered NrMint or Mint in 1990 was often a PSA 5-7.  For your Griffey, the corners aren't sharp and the hologram in the back doesn't look centered.  Comf Numb or The Colonel will have a better handle on it though.  

My rule for non vintage and non high end cards....prior to price increases was if an 8 or 9  can be worth 50 bucks AND I think it's a 10 send it in cause a 10 to me is usually a 8/8.5/9 under the heavy scope.

 

[Nathan R. Jessep]

Looks better out of the case, but the corners are less than Gem (10 grade) for sure. Other thing to check is hold it up to light at an angle and see if there are any indentions or scuffs in the surface, front and back. Centering looks pretty good on the front. 

 

[comfortably numb]

Out of the screw case

I'll look closer when I have my glasses but centering looks nice. Either way I wouldn't do anything right now at the $100 cost to grade. Revisit if we get back down to $30

 

[Major]

Oh well back in the box lol. Thought about this too much as it is. 

Watch this video.  It humbled me a few years back.  I rarely could tell the difference between some of the 6s and 9s.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pc6UmhNM2oo

 

[comfortably numb]

For anyone following if you are or have dug out your collection the only cards i would send out (assuming you cant wait another year?) at the $100 current grading level from the 80s 90s 

1980 Henderson 10 potential 

1982 traded Ripken 10 potential

1993 Jeter SP 9/10 potential 

1994 Arod SP 10 potential

Most big name RC Tiffany 10 potentials.

1990 Frank Thomas NNOF (REGARDLESS OF GRADE)

That's probably it.

If you go into the 70s the list expands a lot more but still might need a very hight grade to be worth it (for me anyway)

I have a pile of 60 cards to send...the only one I may consider at 100 is a very clean Brett RC but I'm probably looking at a 7 or 8.5 at best...so I will wait...maybe at 50 I pull the trigger on that and then a bunch more.

 

[FairWarning]

Looks better out of the case, but the corners are less than Gem (10 grade) for sure. Other thing to check is hold it up to light at an angle and see if there are any indentions or scuffs in the surface, front and back. Centering looks pretty good on the front. 

The corner under his name looks soft.  

 

[STEADYMOBBIN 22]

Whomever created this whole grading system should be drug out and shot. I have many hobbies and have scoured the earth to find unique items I’m interested in and cards are about the only collectible where mass produced - industrial machine made products are so scrutinized. 

For most other collectibles the scrutinization consists of, is the item open or not and do you have the box? 
 

So dumb.

 

[comfortably numb]

Watch this video.  It humbled me a few years back.  I rarely could tell the difference between some of the 6s and 9s.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pc6UmhNM2oo

And that was 4 years ago...consensus is they are grading harder now

 

[FairWarning]

Whomever created this whole grading system should be drug out and shot. I have many hobbies and have scoured the earth to find unique items I’m interested in and cards are about the only collectible where mass produced - industrial machine made products are so scrutinized. 

For most other collectibles the scrutinization consists of, is the item open or not and do you have the box? 
 

So dumb.

Coins are also.  The biases with grading is dumb though.

 

[Major]

Whomever created this whole grading system should be drug out and shot. I have many hobbies and have scoured the earth to find unique items I’m interested in and cards are about the only collectible where mass produced - industrial machine made products are so scrutinized. 

For most other collectibles the scrutinization consists of, is the item open or not and do you have the box? 
 

So dumb.

It's made its way to vintage gaming as well.  Now the boxes are actually graded like cards.   I thought I was doing good with keeping the NES boxes in good shape and/or sealed but a little crease here and dink there really hinders the value.

The cartridges oddly enough have little value.  Times have definitely changed.  Imagine the looks you'd get back in 89 offering to trade an actual game for a cardboard box or instruction manual.  

 

[comfortably numb]

Whomever created this whole grading system should be drug out and shot. I have many hobbies and have scoured the earth to find unique items I’m interested in and cards are about the only collectible where mass produced - industrial machine made products are so scrutinized. 

For most other collectibles the scrutinization consists of, is the item open or not and do you have the box? 
 

So dumb.

I'll disagree somewhat on this

30 years ago yes....

Now people selling stuff online....Mint to me and Mint to Frank in Wisconsin are 2 different things.

All the price guides at some point growing up would have a NRMT and Mint price. 

So there is always a big gap on what people considered NrMint and what people considered NOT Near Mint cause the card was creased.

At the very least grading has given everyone (both for and against) a scale from 1-10 to categorize a condition.  

Authentication 

I sent in a beautiful 1970 Don Baylor/Dusty Baker RC. Thought maybe a 9?? Came back ungraded and "recolored" so between that and fake cards it provides Authentication and no tampering.

Lastly...if you hate grading....you should LOVE grading...so many raw cards are now so much cheaper because of it. 

Always wanted a Mike Schmidt RC but the Book value said $250 and you didn't want to spend that cause ethe guy selling it claiming g it's NRMT cause onlyb2 of the corners are dented....now you can buy that Eac for $30 bucks

 

[Major]

For anyone following if you are or have dug out your collection the only cards i would send out (assuming you cant wait another year?) at the $100 current grading level from the 80s 90s 

1980 Henderson 10 potential 

1982 traded Ripken 10 potential

1993 Jeter SP 9/10 potential 

1994 Arod SP 10 potential

Most big name RC Tiffany 10 potentials.

1990 Frank Thomas NNOF (REGARDLESS OF GRADE)

That's probably it.

If you go into the 70s the list expands a lot more but still might need a very hight grade to be worth it (for me anyway)

I have a pile of 60 cards to send...the only one I may consider at 100 is a very clean Brett RC but I'm probably looking at a 7 or 8.5 at best...so I will wait...maybe at 50 I pull the trigger on that and then a bunch more.

I'd throw in the 79 Ozzie Smith which is near impossible to find centered.  Also the Desert Storm cards hold their value much like Tiffany or Glossy.  

This thread is bringing me back to going to card shows as a kid, dreaming of acquiring an 84 Donruss Mattingly or 86 Canseco from a $5 wax pack gamble.  Great memories, poor investments.

 

[STEADYMOBBIN 22]

Lastly...if you hate grading....you should LOVE grading...so many raw cards are now so much cheaper because of it. 

Always wanted a Mike Schmidt RC but the Book value said $250 and you didn't want to spend that cause ethe guy selling it claiming g it's NRMT cause onlyb2 of the corners are dented....now you can buy that Eac for $30 bucks

I see your point on this. Im not big on keeping the things I buy in their boxes. I do like opening a brand new item but the box condition doesn't matter to me as long as the item inside is fine. 

 

[FairWarning]

I'd throw in the 79 Ozzie Smith which is near impossible to find centered.  Also the Desert Storm cards hold their value much like Tiffany or Glossy.  

This thread is bringing me back to going to card shows as a kid, dreaming of acquiring an 84 Donruss Mattingly or 86 Canseco from a $5 wax pack gamble.  Great memories, poor investments.

Desert Storms for sure, a lot of forgeries.  
 

speaking of 70’s cards - I would consider any star from 76 and prior gradable in any sport if it’s well-centered and has nice corners.  

 

[STEADYMOBBIN 22]

It's made its way to vintage gaming as well.  Now the boxes are actually graded like cards.   I thought I was doing good with keeping the NES boxes in good shape and/or sealed but a little crease here and dink there really hinders the value.

The cartridges oddly enough have little value.  Times have definitely changed.  Imagine the looks you'd get back in 89 offering to trade an actual game for a cardboard box or instruction manual.  

My GB and I had I would estimate over 80% of every NES game ever made and their boxes and all that stuff got tossed or pawned away. 

I would like to buy some Nintendo Fun Club Magazines and maybe the first year Nintendo Power club magazines. Those would be nostalgic AF for me. 

 

[comfortably numb]

I'd throw in the 79 Ozzie Smith which is near impossible to find centered.  Also the Desert Storm cards hold their value much like Tiffany or Glossy.  

This thread is bringing me back to going to card shows as a kid, dreaming of acquiring an 84 Donruss Mattingly or 86 Canseco from a $5 wax pack gamble.  Great memories, poor investments.

Yep, probably could have started with 79.

 Good point on the desert shield cards. I saw a discussion in a group about fake Desert Storm cards.

 It seems like people figured out a way how to make those shield imprints on regular cards and sell them for 50-75x the value

 

[comfortably numb]

Desert Storms for sure, a lot of forgeries.  
 

speaking of 70’s cards - I would consider any star from 76 and prior gradable in any sport if it’s well-centered and has nice corners.  

 Personally at the 10 to $15 level I would send any common that I think has a good chance at a 10.

It's worth the return...or was

 

[Major]

Yep, probably could have started with 79.

 Good point on the desert shield cards. I saw a discussion in a group about fake Desert Storm cards.

 It seems like people figured out a way how to make those shield imprints on regular cards and sell them for 50-75x the value

Think I remember seeing that 79 Ozzie PSA 10 being valued at $100k+.  Crazy.  In all my years collecting, I could never find a centered one and I looked hard for many years at shows (circa 1987-90ish).

Wow, interesting on the Desert Storm shield fraud. I bought a bundle of them for cheap back in the day so they're always on my mind.  Thought about getting some graded but probably not in the 8+ range.

What's the deal with OPeeChee?  I always liked those cards and a younger me thought they'd be better value going forward due to lower print runs but was probably wrong. 

 

[Major]

My GB and I had I would estimate over 80% of every NES game ever made and their boxes and all that stuff got tossed or pawned away. 

I would like to buy some Nintendo Fun Club Magazines and maybe the first year Nintendo Power club magazines. Those would be nostalgic AF for me. 

Right up your alley   https://www.ebay.com/itm/174882972241?hash=item28b7d66251:g:np8AAOSwyvBhEdNK

 

[TheWalkmen]

IMO the bubble is going to pop here as the novelty of card collecting goes by the wayside and the faux collectors/investors leave the hobby. At that point, I plan to pounce and get what I want as they look to unload stuff to fund their "next" thing.

I actually saw NBA/NHL packs in the wild a week ago at Target--couldn't believe my eyes. 

PSA is enjoying the continued demand but give it some time and they will adjust their prices. 

I’m just getting back into baseball cards with my kids after a 30 year absence. Can you explain the bubble popping theory in more detail?

 

[comfortably numb]

Think I remember seeing that 79 Ozzie PSA 10 being valued at $100k+.  Crazy.  In all my years collecting, I could never find a centered one and I looked hard for many years at shows (circa 1987-90ish).

Wow, interesting on the Desert Storm shield fraud. I bought a bundle of them for cheap back in the day so they're always on my mind.  Thought about getting some graded but probably not in the 8+ range.

What's the deal with OPeeChee?  I always liked those cards and a younger me thought they'd be better value going forward due to lower print runs but was probably wrong. 

Very true...lol

https://imgur.com/a/fztywqI

Top 3 are the best I have seen but have other issues so doubt I grade those.

Bottom 4 I will probably send in as the are clean and have good corners. I'll decide when they open up fully.

 

[shuke]

Then there’s all these starting line up figures. Sitting in boxes of Tupperware waiting for everyone to throw theirs away so mine can be worth something to my children??? (Wishful thinking on my part but I don’t want to just throw them in the trash.)

If you have any Reds for sale let me know.

 

[shuke]

Mine are in my garage attic and they aren’t taking up much space so I’ll sit on them. Ive held them this long. Mine are mostly 90s Cowboys, Montana. Rice, I think a Griffey and Cal Ripken.

LET THEM BREATHE!

 

[shuke]

Cleaned out the garage this weekend and found a bunch of cards. One of those Griffey upper decks from 89 still in a plastic case with the screws. Looks perfect to me, but god only knows. Don’t want to deal with sending anything in and paying to get it graded so back in a bin I guess  

Luckily other retirement plans have worked out because 15-year-old me got this one wrong. 

Having it in a screwdown holder for that long may have reduced it's value, so I'd second guess bothering sending it in if you ever want to.  I'm not a graded collector but I'm pretty sure the only things worth sending in from the junk era are those that you think will get the highest grade.

 

[shuke]

Here ya go

Seems unnecessary.

Did you use that bottom left corner to sand some woodwork?

 

[Capella]

Seems unnecessary.

Did you use that bottom left corner to sand some woodwork?

 it’s already back in the garage.