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Anyone going RB-RB-RB with first 3 picks? (1 Viewer)

Brady Gaga

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With this being the age of the elite WR early theory and/or the elite QB early theory, I'm preparing to go against the grain and scoop up RBs early and often even though I'm in a start only 2 RBs league.

Just did a 12 team mock drafting from the 8th spot...

R1. Turner

R2. Greene

R3. Charles

R4. TO

R5. Ronnie

R6. Flacco

R7. Holmes

R8. Knox

Got more sleeper WRs later (Bucs' Mike Williams) and CIN D/ST and Jason Campbell late as my backup QB to Flacco.

I'd expect to feature two top 5 producing RBs. Probably Turner & Greene and have the upside of Charles and Ronnie while healthy.

I just wonder if I would be able to compete with Flacco and those WRs - especially with Santonio Holmes not helping me until week 5.

 
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I tried this in a mock draft a few days back and it didn't work out well. 12 team league, no PPR, no keepers, standard scoring. Start 2 RBs, 2 WRs, and a WR/RB flex, so all three RBs would be starters. I picked 9, 16, and 33 and got Steven Jackson, Ryan Mathews, and Ryan Grant (in that order).

Had I known Grant would be available in round three I would have picked a WR in round 1 or 2. Perhaps Moss in round 1, Roddy White in round 2. But usually in round 3 the best running back in Joseph Addai, and I thought I might be able to catch the tail end of the elite receivers at 33. But they were all gone by then (best available on my board was Wes Welker), so I took Grant after thinking long and hard about a QB or Gates.

I picked WR in rounds 4 and 5 (picks 40 and 57) and ended up with Steve Smith (CAR) and Hines Ward. Not terrible, but I would expect to underperform at that position all season. I had to pick a QB in round 6 (Favre), and by round 7 the best available WRs were pretty poor--Derrick Mason, Santana Moss.

I don't think I would recommend this strategy, and I didn't go into the draft planning on going RB-RB-RB. Grant fell into my lap and I felt forced into it.

 
I would have grabbed TE Clark in the 4th instead of TO and I would have went a WR in rd 6 like Driver or Wallace instead of Flacco. You could have waited a couple more rounds and got a QB comparable to him.

 
Grant in the 3rd was a steal and Matthews in the 2nd was solid. But like you said, would've been better to get Moss/Matthews/Grant than SJax/Matthews/Grant.

 
Honestly, I think the way the NFL is going, the days of doing this and succeeding in FF are long gone. Seemingly as soon as you hit the RB12/RB15 it is a grab bag of RBBC guys and ???s. I think it is a decent year to grab a stud RB if you are near the top, and then just go r-w-w-w-r, or something like that.

 
I have TO probably higher than most. Maybe I could've waited until round 5 or even 6.

Forgot to mention.....

Non-PPR, start 1 QB, 2 RBs, 3 WRs/TEs (they count the same), 1 D/ST, 1 K

That's why no TE early in my mock.

 
I would have grabbed TE Clark in the 4th instead of TO and I would have went a WR in rd 6 like Driver or Wallace instead of Flacco. You could have waited a couple more rounds and got a QB comparable to him.
Good points. In my league TEs count as WRs but Clark would still be a good pick in the 4th over TO. And I agree about getting another solid WR2 quality WR in 6 and waiting for QB longer. Most teams probably filled out their QBs by then anyway.
 
I think one good reason not to follow this strategy, even if you can start 3 RBs, is the number of high upside RBs that can be drafted in the late rounds. Michael Bush, Forsett, Arian Foster, Portis (!) to name a few. You draft 3 RBs, this strategy is foreclosed to you because you have to scramble to fill other positions.

 
I think one good reason not to follow this strategy, even if you can start 3 RBs, is the number of high upside RBs that can be drafted in the late rounds. Michael Bush, Forsett, Arian Foster, Portis (!) to name a few. You draft 3 RBs, this strategy is foreclosed to you because you have to scramble to fill other positions.
Yeah and I'm talking about a start only 2 RBs league.

 
I think one good reason not to follow this strategy, even if you can start 3 RBs, is the number of high upside RBs that can be drafted in the late rounds. Michael Bush, Forsett, Arian Foster, Portis (!) to name a few. You draft 3 RBs, this strategy is foreclosed to you because you have to scramble to fill other positions.
I listened to XM Sirius Fantasy draft this evening and was suprised (14 team PPR) that one expert grabbed 3 RBs with the first 3 picks and another grabbed 2 RBs with his 2 picks. Unless some real super value falls to me I won't even consider it. I'd rather have some backs from the 4-7th round as number 2 and 3 backs that will be servicable.
 
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If I don't have a top 4 pick and nothing strange happens like Gore falling out of the top 10, SJax to the mid-2nd, etc. I may very easily not take a RB until the 3rd this year. A recent mock I did, fwiw, ended up from the 7 spot:

1. Andre Johnson (Hou - WR)

2. Peyton Manning (Ind - QB)

3. Jahvid Best (Det - RB)

4. LeSean McCoy (Phi - RB)

5. Michael Crabtree (SF - WR)

6. Tony Gonzalez (Atl - TE)

7. Felix Jones (Dal - RB)

8. Justin Forsett (Sea - RB)

9. Joe Flacco (Bal - QB)

10. Eddie Royal (Den - WR)

11. New Orleans (NO - DEF)

12. Josh Scobee (Jac - K)

13. Donald Brown (Ind - RB)

14. Golden Tate (Sea - WR)

15. Nate Washington (Ten - WR)

I realize Best, McCoy, Felix, Forsett, and D.Brown isn't all-world, but when the team has Peyton, AJ and IMO decent depth throughout, I think this team could go far.

 
I think the thing with going RB-RB-RB is that it could allow you to guess right on 3 top RBs. We all know RBs are the hardest to predict and we all know the turnover in the top 10 RBs each year.

In going Turner-Greene-Charles in that mock, I think I have a strong chance of nailing 2 of the top 5 RBs this year.

 
I think the thing with going RB-RB-RB is that it could allow you to guess right on 3 top RBs. We all know RBs are the hardest to predict and we all know the turnover in the top 10 RBs each year.In going Turner-Greene-Charles in that mock, I think I have a strong chance of nailing 2 of the top 5 RBs this year.
I don't know that I'd feel confident that I would've nailed ONE top 5 guy, much less two. RBs are hard to predict. While Turner/Greene/Charles will probably put you near the top at RB production, you're facing an uphill climb at QB and WR and TE. And I don't think you're that far ahead, if at all at RB of the guy who opens up with AP/Addai/Portis in the 1st, 4th and 6th, but the guy who does this will land Roddy/Calvin/Austin in the 2nd and Romo/Schaub in the 3rd.
 
But your later draft will be spent guessing at WR and watching all kinds of tasty RBs become unpickable to you. I have always been an RB early guy but this year it looks like WR value drops once then twice before RBs are gone.

 
I think the thing with going RB-RB-RB is that it could allow you to guess right on 3 top RBs. We all know RBs are the hardest to predict and we all know the turnover in the top 10 RBs each year.In going Turner-Greene-Charles in that mock, I think I have a strong chance of nailing 2 of the top 5 RBs this year.
I don't know that I'd feel confident that I would've nailed ONE top 5 guy, much less two. RBs are hard to predict. While Turner/Greene/Charles will probably put you near the top at RB production, you're facing an uphill climb at QB and WR and TE. And I don't think you're that far ahead, if at all at RB of the guy who opens up with AP/Addai/Portis in the 1st, 4th and 6th, but the guy who does this will land Roddy/Calvin/Austin in the 2nd and Romo/Schaub in the 3rd.
Exactly. It's all about difference at at the positions in HTH leagues. You have to ask yourself questions like "Would I rather have R.White and Portis or Greene and Bowe". Look at mock drafts/rankings to get an idea of the tiers of players you are looking at for these rounds. Personally, I'd rather have WR5/RB23 than RB12/WR20.
 
With this being the age of the elite WR early theory and/or the elite QB early theory, I'm preparing to go against the grain and scoop up RBs early and often even though I'm in a start only 2 RBs league.

Just did a 12 team mock drafting from the 8th spot...

R1. Turner

R2. Greene

R3. Charles

R4. TO

R5. Ronnie

R6. Flacco

R7. Holmes

R8. Knox

Got more sleeper WRs later (Bucs' Mike Williams) and CIN D/ST and Jason Campbell late as my backup QB to Flacco.

I'd expect to feature two top 5 producing RBs. Probably Turner & Greene and have the upside of Charles and Ronnie while healthy.

I just wonder if I would be able to compete with Flacco and those WRs - especially with Santonio Holmes not helping me until week 5.
I would be ecstatic If my draft went like this. You went Stud, Stud , Stud @ RB... Stud @ Wr (Palmer to TO) and Stud RB (If Healthy) ... Four potentially top 10 RBs in your first 5 picks ... Top 10 Wr (potential top 5) with your 4th pick.

Good QB and 2 very good WR s @ in he 7th and 8th.

Great Draft ... QB could be better

 
You'd expect to feature 2 top 5 RBs? No offense, but you might not have 1. It would be one thing if you got stud RBs, but you really didn't, and those WRs are pretty bad. You have very good RB depth, below average QBs, and bad WRs. The only way I see that team doing well is if several of your RBs hit, then you trade for WRs (probably the same WRs you should've just drafted in the first place).

 
With this being the age of the elite WR early theory and/or the elite QB early theory, I'm preparing to go against the grain and scoop up RBs early and often even though I'm in a start only 2 RBs league.

Just did a 12 team mock drafting from the 8th spot...

R1. Turner

R2. Greene

R3. Charles

R4. TO

R5. Ronnie

R6. Flacco

R7. Holmes

R8. Knox

Got more sleeper WRs later (Bucs' Mike Williams) and CIN D/ST and Jason Campbell late as my backup QB to Flacco.

I'd expect to feature two top 5 producing RBs. Probably Turner & Greene and have the upside of Charles and Ronnie while healthy.

I just wonder if I would be able to compete with Flacco and those WRs - especially with Santonio Holmes not helping me until week 5.
I'm hoping for your sake this isn't a PPR league, if so, you're screwed. No good WR's and your first 2 picks were 2 of the worst pass catching RB's in the league...

 
With this being the age of the elite WR early theory and/or the elite QB early theory, I'm preparing to go against the grain and scoop up RBs early and often even though I'm in a start only 2 RBs league.

Just did a 12 team mock drafting from the 8th spot...

R1. Turner

R2. Greene

R3. Charles

R4. TO

R5. Ronnie

R6. Flacco

R7. Holmes

R8. Knox

Got more sleeper WRs later (Bucs' Mike Williams) and CIN D/ST and Jason Campbell late as my backup QB to Flacco.

I'd expect to feature two top 5 producing RBs. Probably Turner & Greene and have the upside of Charles and Ronnie while healthy.

I just wonder if I would be able to compete with Flacco and those WRs - especially with Santonio Holmes not helping me until week 5.
I'm hoping for your sake this isn't a PPR league, if so, you're screwed. No good WR's and your first 2 picks were 2 of the worst pass catching RB's in the league...
PPR is for little girls
 
With this being the age of the elite WR early theory and/or the elite QB early theory, I'm preparing to go against the grain and scoop up RBs early and often even though I'm in a start only 2 RBs league.

Just did a 12 team mock drafting from the 8th spot...

R1. Turner

R2. Greene

R3. Charles

R4. TO

R5. Ronnie

R6. Flacco

R7. Holmes

R8. Knox

Got more sleeper WRs later (Bucs' Mike Williams) and CIN D/ST and Jason Campbell late as my backup QB to Flacco.

I'd expect to feature two top 5 producing RBs. Probably Turner & Greene and have the upside of Charles and Ronnie while healthy.

I just wonder if I would be able to compete with Flacco and those WRs - especially with Santonio Holmes not helping me until week 5.
I'm hoping for your sake this isn't a PPR league, if so, you're screwed. No good WR's and your first 2 picks were 2 of the worst pass catching RB's in the league...
PPR is for little girls
I liken non-ppr leagues to 8-track players and manual crank windows... :lmao:

 
With this being the age of the elite WR early theory and/or the elite QB early theory, I'm preparing to go against the grain and scoop up RBs early and often even though I'm in a start only 2 RBs league.

Just did a 12 team mock drafting from the 8th spot...

R1. Turner

R2. Greene

R3. Charles

R4. TO

R5. Ronnie

R6. Flacco

R7. Holmes

R8. Knox

Got more sleeper WRs later (Bucs' Mike Williams) and CIN D/ST and Jason Campbell late as my backup QB to Flacco.

I'd expect to feature two top 5 producing RBs. Probably Turner & Greene and have the upside of Charles and Ronnie while healthy.

I just wonder if I would be able to compete with Flacco and those WRs - especially with Santonio Holmes not helping me until week 5.
There is so many RBs to take later that there is no reason to grab them all in the 1st 3-4 rounds. You can find starting RBs in the double digit rounds, you won't find too many WRs you really want at that point. It's the Mike Thomas' of the world.Bush, Bradshaw, Barber in the 6th

Harrison and Foster in the 7th

MBush in the 8th

Maroney in the 9th

Cadillac in the 10th

I'm not saying take them all but to take more than 1-2 RBs in the 1st 5 rounds is not a good gameplan this year IMHO. Good Luck though

 
With this being the age of the elite WR early theory and/or the elite QB early theory, I'm preparing to go against the grain and scoop up RBs early and often even though I'm in a start only 2 RBs league.

Just did a 12 team mock drafting from the 8th spot...

R1. Turner

R2. Greene

R3. Charles

R4. TO

R5. Ronnie

R6. Flacco

R7. Holmes

R8. Knox

Got more sleeper WRs later (Bucs' Mike Williams) and CIN D/ST and Jason Campbell late as my backup QB to Flacco.

I'd expect to feature two top 5 producing RBs. Probably Turner & Greene and have the upside of Charles and Ronnie while healthy.

I just wonder if I would be able to compete with Flacco and those WRs - especially with Santonio Holmes not helping me until week 5.
I get your against the grain strategy. But I don't like this team at all. Even without PPR, the lack of receiving yards and receiving TD opportunities means your top two backs are one dimensional battering rams who can easily be relegated to the bench in the late 3rd and 4th quarters.

Unfortunately, you won't see those games coming ahead of time and Charles will be on your bench because your in a 2 RB start league.

And that's just the problem with your RB's. You MUST hit on 2 of those 3 RB's or you will never make up the points your are giving up at QB and WR. I don't think that 8th spot is the right one to pull that stunt. If you picked early and at least locked down one stud RB, the drop-off at WR before your next pick might then justify another RB in the 2nd.

I tried this in a mock draft a few days back and it didn't work out well. 12 team league, no PPR, no keepers, standard scoring. Start 2 RBs, 2 WRs, and a WR/RB flex, so all three RBs would be starters. I picked 9, 16, and 33 and got Steven Jackson, Ryan Mathews, and Ryan Grant (in that order).

Had I known Grant would be available in round three I would have picked a WR in round 1 or 2. Perhaps Moss in round 1, Roddy White in round 2. But usually in round 3 the best running back in Joseph Addai, and I thought I might be able to catch the tail end of the elite receivers at 33. But they were all gone by then (best available on my board was Wes Welker), so I took Grant after thinking long and hard about a QB or Gates.

I picked WR in rounds 4 and 5 (picks 40 and 57) and ended up with Steve Smith (CAR) and Hines Ward. Not terrible, but I would expect to underperform at that position all season. I had to pick a QB in round 6 (Favre), and by round 7 the best available WRs were pretty poor--Derrick Mason, Santana Moss.

I don't think I would recommend this strategy, and I didn't go into the draft planning on going RB-RB-RB. Grant fell into my lap and I felt forced into it.
If I thought Jackson would be healthy, this team might actually be able to pull it off. But that's because you've got 2 RB's that won't be benched late in the game plus you can actually start Grant each week. He's a steal as a RB3. But keep in mind that I am higher of the Moore-to-Smith connection than most so I see a potential top 10 WR there as well as the reliable Hine Ward. Favre I'm not crazy about this season but I don't know who else was out there.Someone in your league is hurting at RB if you got those three. Trade may be your best friend this year.

I think the thing with going RB-RB-RB is that it could allow you to guess right on 3 top RBs. We all know RBs are the hardest to predict and we all know the turnover in the top 10 RBs each year.

In going Turner-Greene-Charles in that mock, I think I have a strong chance of nailing 2 of the top 5 RBs this year.
I just don't see nailing 2 of the top 5 with those 3, even in non-PPR. If anything, non-PPR means that Charles has almost no chance of getting there. I think Turner probably gets there but Greene is still a big gamble.
 
In a non ppr league we drafted a month and a half ago I went RB-RB-RB-RB

Ended up with Ray Rice, Jonathan Stewart, Ryan Grant, and Cedric Benson....Championship

If anyone is interested I ended up with Eli at QB, and Boldin as my #1 WR with Zach Miller/Kellen Winslow at TE. In the league you can start 1 WR and 3 RB's. I say again...championship

 
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With this being the age of the elite WR early theory and/or the elite QB early theory, I'm preparing to go against the grain and scoop up RBs early and often even though I'm in a start only 2 RBs league.

Just did a 12 team mock drafting from the 8th spot...

R1. Turner

R2. Greene

R3. Charles

R4. TO

R5. Ronnie

R6. Flacco

R7. Holmes

R8. Knox

Got more sleeper WRs later (Bucs' Mike Williams) and CIN D/ST and Jason Campbell late as my backup QB to Flacco.

I'd expect to feature two top 5 producing RBs. Probably Turner & Greene and have the upside of Charles and Ronnie while healthy.

I just wonder if I would be able to compete with Flacco and those WRs - especially with Santonio Holmes not helping me until week 5.
You are not going to win squat with that team unless there is trading in the league AND your leaguemates forget you should be getting pennies on the dollar for the overload.......AND you made their crappy RBs look better in their H2H against each other

How would ANY good drafter know they are going RB/RB/RB????? You take the best player available

Not sure who you passed up to take green and 2.05, but what if Marques Colston was available at 3.08? You would blindly take a third RB instead of a WR who should have already been off the boards?

 
I've thought about it. When mocking from picks 1 and 2, I've found that almost 80% of the time all the elite WRs are gone by the time it gets back to me in round 2. I'm left with some value at RB, 2nd tier WRs, and maybe Peyton and usually Brady.

Here's a mock I did last night from the 2-spot:

1) AP

- nobrainer

2) DWill

3) Charles

-I was left with guys like Colston and Boldin, or Tom Brady/Matt Schaub. I don't want to grab WRs on the end of a run, and I don't want to take a QB too early, so I loaded up on value and selected Deangelo Williams and Jamaal Charles. I felt like I could get 2 good WRs at 4/5, maybe Schaub/Romo/Rivers, but unlikely

4) Michael Crabtree

5) Hakeem Nicks

-I was worried that I wouldn't have good WRs by going RB-RB-RB, but when these guys fell to me at the 4/5 turn, I snatched them up.

6) Kevin Kolb

7) Johnny Knox

-I think I should've waited longer to draft a QB. CJ Spiller/Bush/Bush/Bradshaw were all there at RB, and TO was there at WR. I could've gotten Favre later, I think that would've been the best decision.

8) Kellen Winslow

9) Mike Wallace

10) Austin Collie

11) Lawrence Maroney

12-15) whatever

 
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in my two main leagues one of the starting lineup options is 3 RB's and 2 WR's.....it is usually the best way to go....I have gone RB/RB/RB in the past and I may do it again if the value dictates.....having a stud RB as your flex as opposed to a marginal WR can be an advantage....I have even taken a 4th pretty quickly as I like to cover bye weeks and possible injuries.....to me it really matters who the three guys are, I won't do it just to do it....

that said, those days may be over.......but it really depends on your scoring system and starting lineup requirements....

 
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I've thought about it. When mocking from picks 1 and 2, I've found that almost 80% of the time all the elite WRs are gone by the time it gets back to me in round 2. I'm left with some value at RB, 2nd tier WRs, and maybe Peyton and usually Brady.

Here's a mock I did last night from the 2-spot:

1) AP

- nobrainer

2) DWill

3) Charles

-I was left with guys like Colston and Boldin, or Tom Brady/Matt Schaub. I don't want to grab WRs on the end of a run, and I don't want to take a QB too early, so I loaded up on value and selected Deangelo Williams and Jamaal Charles. I felt like I could get 2 good WRs at 4/5, maybe Schaub/Romo/Rivers, but unlikely

4) Michael Crabtree

5) Hakeem Nicks

-I was worried that I wouldn't have good WRs by going RB-RB-RB, but when these guys fell to me at the 4/5 turn, I snatched them up.

6) Kevin Kolb

7) Johnny Knox

-I think I should've waited longer to draft a QB. CJ Spiller/Bush/Bush/Bradshaw were all there at RB, and TO was there at WR. I could've gotten Favre later, I think that would've been the best decision.

8) Kellen Winslow

9) Mike Wallace

10) Austin Collie

11) Lawrence Maroney

12-15) whatever
I decided to go with this strategy in the FBG Players Championship I drafted last weekend. I wasn't planning on it, but I thought the value was there. Plus the thought that you can flex up to 2 RB's (4 RB, 2 WR 1 TE line up) made this for me the correct play.

My first three picks were the same, excpet I had the #3 Pick, I'm doing this from memory so I hope I got the rounds correct:

1) ADP - Thought this was no brainer, was hoping he'd drop but was willing to take MJD or Rice. FYI A. Johnson went 2nd here.

2) DWill - Wasn't thrilled with what remained of the top end WR's, so again a no brainer.

3) J. Charles - Considered going WR here but Charles I think was BPA and thought it gave me a strong flex player, but am starting to get concerned about my lack of WR's.

4) S. Rice - Think this was a solid pick and with Favre returning I think he has a chance to be top 10, making him a good WR1 candidate.

5) M. Schaub - Wanted a top QB and Romo, Schaub and Brady were all available here and didn't think they'd come back to me (I was right). I think Schaub is a top 3 qb with top qb potential.

6) Ronnie Brown - Again considered WR but liked Brown better than any option there and could use him also as a flex.

7) T. Owens - Needed a WR, figured with the 4 RB's I have and top QB I could take the chance on Owens.

8) H. Miller - desperately needed a TE and the one's I were targeting (Z. Miller, O. Daniels and C. Cooley) were taken directly in front of me. Couldn't risk not taking a TE here.

9) V. Jackson - Pretty much set at QB/RB, so needed WR's and at this point the picking were slim so decided to take a gamble here

10) S. Holmes - A lesser gamble.

11) NYJ - Grabbed them as the first Def off the board, all the QB/WR's I liked could be gotten later. Figured I'd grab a top Def. Probably could have waited because no one else picked up defense for another 3 rounds.

12) Leinart - Again a gamble, which I think you need to do in a league like this.

13) Garrard - Insurance in case Leinart gamble doesn't pay off.

Last 7 rounds:

RB: M. Lynch - another gamble, I'm not sold on Spiller being an every down back and with Jackson missing up to 1-3 regular season games, it opens the door for Lynch to get a shot at reclaiming his starter role.

WR: D. Avery, M. Thomas, Brandon Tate, Mike Williams (Sea) : This is my weakest position so I went for young players that I believe are being given every opportunity to succeed and have a shot at being a break out candidate.

TE: Ben Watson - I actually like this pick and think its pretty sneaky. Hopefully I only have to start him once, but I believe that with Delhomme throwing to unreliable WR's in cleveland, he might have to rely on this TE. He's not going to be a top 10 TE but I think 60/800/5 isn't out of the question (and yes I know those would be career highs)

K: M. Prater - Big leg, thin air, an offence that might be just good enough to get the ball into FG range, but not quite good enough to convert into TDs.

Overall Team:

QB: Schaub, Leinart, Garrard

RB: ADP, DWill, Charles, R. Brown, Lynch

WR: S.Rice, TO, VJax, Holmes, Avery, M. Thomas, B. Tate, M.Williams(Sea)

TE: H. Miller, B. Watson

K: Prater

Def: NYJ

Overall I think the strategy of going RB-RB-RB worked here. I'm light at WR, but since only 2 need to start I think I'm in okay shape with a low end WR1, and 6 WR's who I think could be breakout candidates.

 
But your later draft will be spent guessing at WR and watching all kinds of tasty RBs become unpickable to you. I have always been an RB early guy but this year it looks like WR value drops once then twice before RBs are gone.
Exactly. I have actually done mocks drafting WR, WR, WR in the first three rounds of a start 2 RB, 3 WR league and really liked the results.

 

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