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Anyone not like Eddie Lacy? (2 Viewers)

otis68 said:
packer_junkie said:
otis68 said:
For the buy low crowd, what are you willing to offer for Lacy?
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Trying to figure this out myself.... Thinking of offering Mike evans straight up. Am I crazy?
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In a league where I have Lacy, I'd take Ingram, Gio or Miller. I don't see that level of offer coming.

In another league I'd offer Dalton or Woodhead. Dalton AND Woodhead seems like too much.
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I got offered Lacy for Lesean McCoy this morning.

I hesitated and he canceled, so no decision to make anymore, but I still don't think I like that deal, although I've got running back depth to wait and see if Lacy turns it around.

 
If they would just decorate the pylons to look like burritos or eclairs he'd be the highest scoring player in the league.

 
COOL STORY BRO
Coach Mike McCarthy said Monday that Eddie Lacy's carries were reduced in Week 6 because he is "beat up," and the Packers will ride the "hot hand" between Lacy and James Starks going forward.
Lacy wasn't even listed on the Packers' Week 6 injury report, which technically is a violation of NFL rules if he is indeed nursing an ankle injury, as is widely suspected. McCarthy shot down any notion of Lacy's conditioning being a problem. McCarthy has often spoken of riding the "hot hand" between Lacy and Starks in previous years, but Lacy had always went on to be treated as the feature back. On Monday, McCarthy called Starks an "outstanding" running back. While the Packers' Week 7 bye should help Lacy, this now has the looks of a committee moving forward. Starks has outplayed Lacy this season.
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If this holds true.....biggest bust in redraft this year.

Monstrous.

And dynasty wise.....man. Pissed off right now.

 
Todem said:
If this holds true.....biggest bust in redraft this year.

Monstrous.

And dynasty wise.....man. Pissed off right now.
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He could retire right now and I would have no hard feelings in dynasty. He's been the top reason I've won a handful of leagues the past two years..

Even with that said, I don't think the sky is falling on his dynasty value. He is obviously out of sorts and hurting. That happens to lots and lots of players. McCarthy is blowing smoke up Starks' butt and some of the second hand is getting on the media. If Starks is so outstanding then how come he's never been able to outperform Lacy? Or better yet, why did they draft Lacy?

30 year old rbs don't enter a dramatic performance phase. the reality is Starks is the healthiest guy they got and that's about it. Give Lacy 13 days to get healthy and we will see how this plays out. I think people exercising patience with Lacy will benefit if they have a good enough team to hang in there.

 
He'll be great value in next year's draft.

I'm getting offered him now. Hometown Buffet, gimpy, week 7 bye followed by Broncos makes me think wait 2 weeks. He was pretty good from week 10 on last year after the bye. Started slow last year too..

 
Judge Smails said:
He'll be great value in next year's draft.

I'm getting offered him now. Hometown Buffet, gimpy, week 7 bye followed by Broncos makes me think wait 2 weeks. He was pretty good from week 10 on last year after the bye. Started slow last year too..
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Exactly my thinking as well. I think he asserts himself after the bye. Something was not right with him all fat jokes aside.

 
Todem said:
Judge Smails said:
He'll be great value in next year's draft.

I'm getting offered him now. Hometown Buffet, gimpy, week 7 bye followed by Broncos makes me think wait 2 weeks. He was pretty good from week 10 on last year after the bye. Started slow last year too..
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Exactly my thinking as well. I think he asserts himself after the bye. Something was not right with him all fat jokes aside.
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I still hold optimism that he will be valuable this year. I've seen this story two times already and I would never dismiss what happens if Rodgers is limited or hurt.

But, yes, you're right. Unless he comes on so hot that he literally carries teams to (yet another) fantasy title, he is setting up to be a guy that gets pushed well below what he will be worth next year. But that's next year. I'm going to enjoy this year and live in the moment.

 
In a .5 ppr redraft, I offered Latavius Murray in exchange for other owner's Lacy + Starks. He replied w/ a quick "no" within like 5 minutes.

 
Todem said:
Judge Smails said:
He'll be great value in next year's draft.

I'm getting offered him now. Hometown Buffet, gimpy, week 7 bye followed by Broncos makes me think wait 2 weeks. He was pretty good from week 10 on last year after the bye. Started slow last year too..
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Exactly my thinking as well. I think he asserts himself after the bye. Something was not right with him all fat jokes aside.
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I think this all we can do at this point. You're not going to get much in a trade so all you can hope for is a strong comeback after the bye

 
I traded Calvin Johnson away for him two weeks ago in a ppr redraft league and everyone thought I got the better part of that trade. I don't think so. I just traded away Lacy for TJ Yeldon. I just don't think it's happening for him this year. Injury, out of shape, seems to be in a timeshare now. GB trusts Starks it looks like and Starks just looks plain better than Lacy.

 
conlilnew said:
I traded Calvin Johnson away for him two weeks ago in a ppr redraft league and everyone thought I got the better part of that trade. I don't think so. I just traded away Lacy for TJ Yeldon. I just don't think it's happening for him this year. Injury, out of shape, seems to be in a timeshare now. GB trusts Starks it looks like and Starks just looks plain better than Lacy.
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Unfortunately, I agree with this. Our window to get out has closed and unless you're willing to sell at Chicandrick West prices, I think we're stuck holding and hoping.

 
MattFancy said:
NajehHejan said:
I just traded his fat #### for Char West. PPR redraft league. In case anyone is wondering about trade value.
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Sounds like the other guy just got a steal
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Yikes! One guy got a guy that has won me titles for two years. The other guy got a guy with two games on his resume who plays for a team whose head coach couldn't even utilize their legitimate star RB correctly.

If Lacy runs for a flat 40 yards a game every game for the rest of the year, I think the Lacy owner still wins. West may be standing on the sideline watching Davis in as little as a month.

 
He really sprained his ankle bad and it has never healed. He did not rest it. He came right back the following week and has tried to play through it. I think the bye week is huge for him.

Buckle up and hold on to your butts. If he responds well we have a stud for the second half.....if not.

Oh well.

 
Todem said:
He really sprained his ankle bad and it has never healed. He did not rest it. He came right back the following week and has tried to play through it. I think the bye week is huge for him.

Buckle up and hold on to your butts. If he responds well we have a stud for the second half.....if not.

Oh well.
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That could very well be the case.

We have two years of NFL data on this guy and it overwhelmingly suggests he is a top 10 Rb in this league for fantasy. There are too many high character guys surrounding this organization for Lacy to just get dumb/lazy, etc and this is a guy who is on deck to be playing for his one and only big payday. All the signs point to something else is afoot. It wouldn't surprise me at all to look back on this and read that he has a high ankle sprain.

 
Buck Bradcanon said:
Its gotten so bad I had to go back to preseason article and remind myself that he was a can't miss first rounder. He was available to me at 1.6 and it was a no brainer pick.

From Roto's preseason article "Who should be the #1 overall pick?"

[SIZE=small]Eddie Lacy[/SIZE]

[SIZE=small]ADP: 2.3[/SIZE]

Case For: Rolling into his prime, Lacy is a 25-year-old bowling ball who has scored 24 touchdowns in 31 NFL games. Playing for the league’s highest-powered offense, he was the RB7 as a rookie and RB6 as a sophomore. Appearing in all 16 games, Lacy averaged 4.63 yards per carry in 2014, and 5.04 over the season’s final eight games. He also came into his own as a receiver, catching 42 passes for 427 yards and four scores. The only RBs to average more yards per catch than Lacy’s 10.2 were Roy Helu and <a data-ipb="nomediaparse" data-cke-saved-href="http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/8390/le"href="http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/8390/le" veon-bell"="">Le’Veon Bell. Lacy is a versatile, complete back, one who operates from Aaron Rodgers’ jumpseat.

Case Against: Lacy is a violent runner, one who has suffered two concussions. Most running backs can reasonably be labeled as “injury risks,” of course, but it rings particularly true in Lacy’s case. You could also argue Lacy is more of a “floor” than “ceiling” back. Although a huge part of the Packers’ offense, he isn’t the foundation in the way that Charles and Lynch are.

My Take: There isn’t a safer bet at No. 1 overall. Lacy is a versatile, consistent back, one who despite an “injury-prone” reputation has missed only one game in two NFL seasons. He is the goal-line back for the league’s best offense, and now a proven threat on dump-offs and screens. There are two other players I’m seriously considering at No. 1 — more on that later — but Lacy is in the right place at the right time to be fantasy’s top producer.
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Dang - the signs were there - we just had to see 'em

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-QG

 
Offered Ronnie Hillman and a 2016 3rd rounder for him and thought I would get shot down immediately. The Lacy-Owner is mulling it over...

 
steelers1080 said:
Offered Ronnie Hillman and a 2016 3rd rounder for him and thought I would get shot down immediately. The Lacy-Owner is mulling it over...
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Saw this trade get accepted in my 12 team redraft league.

Owner thats 3-3 traded TY. Hilton and Eddie Lacy to a 1-5 owner for Mike Evans and Arian Foster.

At the beginning of the season I don't think the Lacy owner would have considered it. Taking Foster's injury into account anyway.

I still think Lacy is a solid buy low, since he started off similarly last year. (albeit maybe 20 pounds lighter) :excited:

But if I got Lacy at this point, I would damn well make sure I could get my hands on Starks as well.

TZM

 
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First 6 games of 2014....80 attempts. 306 yards

First 6 games of 2015....67 attempts. 260 yards

Just saying. Seems like a good time to buy.

 
I'm buying, but will wait a week. No need to buy during the bye week. The Lacy owner won't like facing Denver off the bye. That's when I'm pouncing.

 
My team is 3-3 and has Lacy, Evans, Mathews. Draft that bad and its hard to overcome it. Haven't dropped them yet either so I didn't get some of the ww guys i could have grabbed. May have to cut the fat on one soon. Sucks but I could have grabbed some good ww players but held my losers.

 
Dynasty

I was offered Lacy for Freeman. I'm building for the future and have no idea what to do. History shows us he's a slow starter and gets better as it gets colder. Definitely echo others that now is the time to buy

 
dipandglide said:
Dynasty

I was offered Lacy for Freeman. I'm building for the future and have no idea what to do. History shows us he's a slow starter and gets better as it gets colder. Definitely echo others that now is the time to buy
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I would buy.

I think I read somewhere that the hot roll Freeman is on has never been done before by a RB/WR/TE. To me, that screams outlier.

To add to it, He's touching the ball25+ times a game. NO RB holds up to that in dynasty. Even when Rice and Foster and Peterson, etc do it, they always came back with lesser years following.

Also add that the Falcons currently lead the league is opponents rush yards/game (75-80 or something). That tells me that EVERYTHING is going their way right now. They are also number 2 in time of possession and number 2 in points.

So, we are either seeing the birth of the 2nd coming of the greatest show on turf and this is just how it is going to be OR we are seeing randomness that will come back to the norm. Remember when Josh McDaniel started off so super hot in Denver? I think this is a case of newness and the teams they have faced and when I also consider that T. Coleman is still there AND looks pretty good when he runs, I just don't see how Freeman maintains this.

Even if he DOES stay right at the top, that means Atlanta is going to fare well and, if nothing else, they will scale Freeman back for the real life playoffs because Coleman is a very capable timeshare candidate. And they will do that right when it is most important to fantasy owners. Eddie Lacy is the exact opposite. Every year they ease him in with 12-15 carries to open up. A little less, a little more. No super heavy workload. But at the end of the year (in our ff playoffs), what is the memory we have of Lacy each year? 20 or more touches and steady point production. I like Lacy better for ff.

 
Just traded frank gore for lacy. Have lewis, murray, and woodhead in my PPR league. Will have to see if pays off down the stretch but had no intention on using gore with those three killing it now.

 
huntsw1 said:
Just traded frank gore for lacy. Have lewis, murray, and woodhead in my PPR league. Will have to see if pays off down the stretch but had no intention on using gore with those three killing it now.
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Makes sense for you. If Lacy gets back to form, that's a really good group at RB

 
Shrugs said:
Denver724 said:
timbrah_ho said:
Offered Lacy for Moncrief in my 10 team PPR flex league
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I was as well. Declined.
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Man, I would jump on that. And I have Moncrief. Even at 2-4 with Lacy on bye, I'd do it.
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Really? Moncrief is a PPR high WR2 with potential WR1 upside, total set it and forget it in your flex spot. Lacy and Starks look like they're going towards a full RBBC. It's not a slam dunk (I'm still struggling with hitting the accept button)

 
timbrah_ho said:
Shrugs said:
Denver724 said:
timbrah_ho said:
Offered Lacy for Moncrief in my 10 team PPR flex league
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I was as well. Declined.
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Man, I would jump on that. And I have Moncrief. Even at 2-4 with Lacy on bye, I'd do it.
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Really? Moncrief is a PPR high WR2 with potential WR1 upside, total set it and forget it in your flex spot. Lacy and Starks look like they're going towards a full RBBC. It's not a slam dunk (I'm still struggling with hitting the accept button)
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Barring his ankle still giving him issues, do you really think Starks and Lacy will be full blown RBBC?

See this post...

https://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index.php?/topic/678557-anyone-not-like-eddie-lacy/?p=18504723

 
Pipes said:
First 6 games of 2014....80 attempts. 306 yards

First 6 games of 2015....67 attempts. 260 yards

Just saying. Seems like a good time to buy.
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I didn't think it was possible but he's actually doing worse than last year.

 
I would caution on those trying to buy low. This year is different. It's more than just a sore ankle. Lacy does not appear to be in good shape. He is very slow off the handoff. He has been plowing straight into his O line. Get rid of him now while you can! He will end up being second fiddle to Starks the rest of the year.

 
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NajehHejan said:
I would caution on those trying to buy low. This year is different. It's more than just a sore ankle. Lacy does not appear to be in good shape. He is very slow off the handoff. He has been plowing straight into his O line. Get rid of him now while you can! He will end up being second fiddle to Starks the rest of the year.
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I think the conditioning is a legit concern, but Starks does not outplay him in long run.

 
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