FUBAR
Footballguy
Sounds like he doesn't have other loved ones near that situation.
There is no right answer in his situation except for him to do what he feels God is telling him to. Thankfully most of us won't be in his shoes.
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There is no right answer in his situation except for him to do what he feels God is telling him to. Thankfully most of us won't be in his shoes.
Twenty-Four Eighty-Four
Footballguy
I'm. No Adrian Peterson. The person who died was not my son. But I play soccer competitively. Came home from college one day (this was a few years ago) only to have my parents tell me my best friend passed away very unexpectedly. She was family. Lived with us for a while. Celebrated holidays with us. I had a soccer game the very next day. I went to her family and chatted, grieved, the usual. The only way I could gain some sanity was to play. If you have that competitiveness in you, its tough not to play and helps you escape from the chaos if only for a little while.
I an 34 years and have recently lost my wife to brain tumors and my own stupidity.
God bless Adrian and all who walk this earth with his burdens. There are infinite hours of darkness that he must face ahead alone. If 240 minutes on Sunday will let him forget his sorrows for a moment I support him in spirit.
Please, everyone, even the strongest man needs a moment man where he can forget the world and focus on being.
God bless Adrian and all who walk this earth with his burdens. There are infinite hours of darkness that he must face ahead alone. If 240 minutes on Sunday will let him forget his sorrows for a moment I support him in spirit.
Please, everyone, even the strongest man needs a moment man where he can forget the world and focus on being.
ghostguy123
Footballguy
What exactly would the appropriate number of days be after losing a child to get back and work? Just curious. 2??? 7??? 68??? Two years??I was answering the question "how do you know what he's going through". I think I answered it as best as I could. Based on my experience, I have a hard time respecting someone for going to work days after losing their child. I guess you don't feel the same.Simayi said:1) Sorry for your loss2) I don't understand how you can say "Who are YOU to judge the way I feel" while simultaneously judging Adrian Peterson.Jello_Biafra said:I am a man who also lost a child. Who are YOU to judge the way I feel?mbrasi said:How can we judge this man.How do YOU know what he's going through? Maybe football is the only thing that will let him get his anger out. Also, he may still be in denial, you can't understand the complex emotions that he is handling right now.Jello_Biafra said:
Don't hurt yourself falling off your high horse.
Because whatever number of days that is, it is YOUR personal appropriate number of days.
And I guess we will just forget that he likely has no relationship with the kids mom, and his best support system is most likely his team.
None of that matters though I guess when you have zero ability realize that he just MIGHT not have the same situation and perspective as you.
Jesus, some of you people are making AP sound like a worse guy than the murderer.
ghostguy123
Footballguy
So which other loved ones is he supposed to support here??
And just because he says he is focused, and says he is ready to roll....doesn't necessarily mean he is.
Hoss Style
Footballguy
Who knows what the hell is going on here? How can we judge on what little we know? I can see conjecture if it was something concerning his play on Sunday, or the team - but the death of a child? Reactions vary as widely as the personalities of the people that have to deal with it. Apparently he didn't know the child and wasn't even sure it was his until recently - which widens the range of emotions either way.
My friend died when we were young. One of the only things I remember is the day after it happened his dad went out and chopped wood for about 15 hours straight - sun up to sun down. There had to be 300+ pieces of fire wood there. Never said a word. He came home, left all the logs where they had been chopped and never went back to haul the load in. Never went back to that area again, as far as I know.
Maybe AP's chopping wood.
My friend died when we were young. One of the only things I remember is the day after it happened his dad went out and chopped wood for about 15 hours straight - sun up to sun down. There had to be 300+ pieces of fire wood there. Never said a word. He came home, left all the logs where they had been chopped and never went back to haul the load in. Never went back to that area again, as far as I know.
Maybe AP's chopping wood.
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Portis Homer
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I have no issue with him playing Sunday...but as a parent I don't understand how he went back to Minnesota the day before they were going to take his son off the ventilator. I can't imagine any parent leaving for work instead of staying to say goodbye.
ImTheScientist
Footballguy
What you feel and AP feel are not the same as you are two different people. Judging him at this time reflects poorly on you.Jello_Biafra said:I am a man who also lost a child. Who are YOU to judge the way I feel?mbrasi said:How can we judge this man.How do YOU know what he's going through? Maybe football is the only thing that will let him get his anger out. Also, he may still be in denial, you can't understand the complex emotions that he is handling right now.Jello_Biafra said:
Don't hurt yourself falling off your high horse.
Short Corner
Footballguy
Make sure you start a thread if you lose a child so we can all criticize how you cope with it.monk said:
pizzatyme
Footballguy
After having some more time to reflect on this I have additional thoughts to share.
While some have been critical of AP I don't think we should be upset with them. They are sharing their feelings based on their limited knowledge of the situation. They are grieving in a way too. For the same reason we don't want them to pass judgement in AP, we should not pass judgement in them.
On the point that AP left before the final decision was made, maybe, and I'm speculating here, AP talked to the doctors who explained there was zero chance of recovery and maybe the mother wasn't ready to accept that. AP could have paid his final respects and got back to his support system in MN. He might have thought she was going to keep their son on the machine for an extended period, weeks, months, years who knows? He made his decision based on first hand knowledge of the situation and I'm good with that. I liken it to previously having to put down a pet. I knew the final outcome but couldn't stand to take the pain of being there so my wife took her in. I said my goodbyes.
I fear that AP will be human on Sunday and then the real criticism will flow in this board. To some, all that matters here is AP's stats. That's unfortunate to me, but I understand.
In closing, I think life is too short to bicker here. Appreciate what you have, care for others, show compassion, and give more than you take from your time here on Earth.
RIP little guy.
While some have been critical of AP I don't think we should be upset with them. They are sharing their feelings based on their limited knowledge of the situation. They are grieving in a way too. For the same reason we don't want them to pass judgement in AP, we should not pass judgement in them.
On the point that AP left before the final decision was made, maybe, and I'm speculating here, AP talked to the doctors who explained there was zero chance of recovery and maybe the mother wasn't ready to accept that. AP could have paid his final respects and got back to his support system in MN. He might have thought she was going to keep their son on the machine for an extended period, weeks, months, years who knows? He made his decision based on first hand knowledge of the situation and I'm good with that. I liken it to previously having to put down a pet. I knew the final outcome but couldn't stand to take the pain of being there so my wife took her in. I said my goodbyes.
I fear that AP will be human on Sunday and then the real criticism will flow in this board. To some, all that matters here is AP's stats. That's unfortunate to me, but I understand.
In closing, I think life is too short to bicker here. Appreciate what you have, care for others, show compassion, and give more than you take from your time here on Earth.
RIP little guy.
Curious. Why you find no respect in someone going to wok but are ok with them jumping to the bottle?I was answering the question "how do you know what he's going through". I think I answered it as best as I could. Based on my experience, I have a hard time respecting someone for going to work days after losing their child. I guess you don't feel the same.Simayi said:1) Sorry for your lossJello_Biafra said:I am a man who also lost a child. Who are YOU to judge the way I feel?mbrasi said:How can we judge this man.Jello_Biafra said:
How do YOU know what he's going through? Maybe football is the only thing that will let him get his anger out. Also, he may still be in denial, you can't understand the complex emotions that he is handling right now.
Don't hurt yourself falling off your high horse.
2) I don't understand how you can say "Who are YOU to judge the way I feel" while simultaneously judging Adrian Peterson.
RandyDB
Footballguy
It is always entertaining to watch other peoples reactions to how celebrities deal with different situations without know the reasons or motivations for the celebs actions.
Do we really even know why AP went to Sioux Falls? Is it possible he was there at the facilities request? Doctors may have known long ago that there was no hope of recovery and needed the mother and fathers OK to cease life sustaining measures.
Do we really even know why AP went to Sioux Falls? Is it possible he was there at the facilities request? Doctors may have known long ago that there was no hope of recovery and needed the mother and fathers OK to cease life sustaining measures.
PatsWillWin
Footballguy
TMZ is reporting that the first time Peterson met his son was when he went to go see him in the hospital and that his paternity was only recently confirmed.
fruity pebbles
Footballguy
PatsWillWin
Footballguy
I think he has another son and daughter, both that he is "raising," or whatever you want to call it.
GoBirds
Footballguy
PatsWillWin
Footballguy
The TMZ story:
Adrian Peterson only recently learned he was the father of a 2-year-old boy in South Dakota ... and met him for the first time Thursday ... while the boy was on life support, TMZ has learned.
Multiple sources connected to the situation tell us ... roughly 2-3 months ago, the mother of the child had a paternity test done with an ex she suspected to be the father, in an effort to collect child support from him.
But the test turned up negative, so the woman went to Adrian ... with whom she had a sexual encounter several years ago.
We're told ... when Adrian was first informed about the matter, he didn't question the possibility he was the dad -- but rather asked how he could help the situation.
Sources tell us ... a few weeks ago, A.P. started to plan a trip to South Dakota to meet the child for the first time and he was supposed to fly out later this month.
But when he heard the news about the attack on the 2-year-old, Peterson dropped everything and jetted over to Sioux Falls as soon as he could.
We're told Adrian met the child for the first time while the boy was on life support.
Multiple sources tell us ... Adrian has been very involved since the tragedy and was the one pushing the have the child's organs donated to other people in need of a transplant.
As for the suspect, Joey Patterson, we're told Adrian has never met the guy.
We reached out to Adrian and the mother of the child for comment -- so far, no word back from either side.
Read more: http://www.tmz.com/2013/10/12/adrian-peterson-son-paternity-south-dakota/#ixzz2hW4brwGg
Visit Fishwrapper: http://www.fishwrapper.com
Adrian Peterson only recently learned he was the father of a 2-year-old boy in South Dakota ... and met him for the first time Thursday ... while the boy was on life support, TMZ has learned.
Multiple sources connected to the situation tell us ... roughly 2-3 months ago, the mother of the child had a paternity test done with an ex she suspected to be the father, in an effort to collect child support from him.
But the test turned up negative, so the woman went to Adrian ... with whom she had a sexual encounter several years ago.
We're told ... when Adrian was first informed about the matter, he didn't question the possibility he was the dad -- but rather asked how he could help the situation.
Sources tell us ... a few weeks ago, A.P. started to plan a trip to South Dakota to meet the child for the first time and he was supposed to fly out later this month.
But when he heard the news about the attack on the 2-year-old, Peterson dropped everything and jetted over to Sioux Falls as soon as he could.
We're told Adrian met the child for the first time while the boy was on life support.
Multiple sources tell us ... Adrian has been very involved since the tragedy and was the one pushing the have the child's organs donated to other people in need of a transplant.
As for the suspect, Joey Patterson, we're told Adrian has never met the guy.
We reached out to Adrian and the mother of the child for comment -- so far, no word back from either side.
Read more: http://www.tmz.com/2013/10/12/adrian-peterson-son-paternity-south-dakota/#ixzz2hW4brwGg
Visit Fishwrapper: http://www.fishwrapper.com
Jello_Biafra
Footballguy
More than zero.What exactly would the appropriate number of days be after losing a child to get back and work? Just curious. 2??? 7??? 68??? Two years??I was answering the question "how do you know what he's going through". I think I answered it as best as I could. Based on my experience, I have a hard time respecting someone for going to work days after losing their child. I guess you don't feel the same.Simayi said:1) Sorry for your loss2) I don't understand how you can say "Who are YOU to judge the way I feel" while simultaneously judging Adrian Peterson.Jello_Biafra said:I am a man who also lost a child. Who are YOU to judge the way I feel?mbrasi said:How can we judge this man.How do YOU know what he's going through? Maybe football is the only thing that will let him get his anger out. Also, he may still be in denial, you can't understand the complex emotions that he is handling right now.Jello_Biafra said:
Don't hurt yourself falling off your high horse.
Because whatever number of days that is, it is YOUR personal appropriate number of days.
And I guess we will just forget that he likely has no relationship with the kids mom, and his best support system is most likely his team.
None of that matters though I guess when you have zero ability realize that he just MIGHT not have the same situation and perspective as you.
Jesus, some of you people are making AP sound like a worse guy than the murderer.
Jello_Biafra
Footballguy
Well, that answers that. He never cared about the kid when he was alive. He's a great human being.
rockaction
Footballguy
rockaction
Footballguy
Or he never really knew he was the father.
These threads suck. Why not just wait until the story comes out?
shadyridr
Footballguy
umm he never KNEW about the kid.
cstu
Footballguy
Chickenwang
Footballguy
You people act like you're all perfect. Don't judge another person, because YOU have your own ghosts in your closet. Fix yourself before you comment about others
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SameSongNDance
Footballguy
I think it's pretty obvious by now that AP wasn't involved in this kids life but it wasn't due to a lack of caring. Of course the death of a son you met a couple days ago isn't going to take as large a toll on you as it would if you were there from the beginning. How he's handling the situation makes sense to me.
Breesisdaman
Footballguy
Dude just stop it. How the hell can you care about someone you didn't even know existed? Did you even read the article?
"Adrian Peterson only recently learned he was the father of a 2-year-old boy in South Dakota ... and met him for the first time Thursday ... while the boy was on life support, TMZ has learned. "
I am not saying he is a great human but you seem a little over zealous in your condemnation of AP
Jewell
Footballguy
Didn't you just judge and comment on other people while telling those other people that they can't judge or comment on others?
sports_fan
Footballguy
I'm guessing AP went to show his support then asked the mother what she wanted. She may have asked him to leave so she could be with her son in his final hours and to detract some media attention. After all she had by far the closest bond with the boy. I feel for the mother most of all. She lost her little boy and now has the media all over her.
Not sure why people are so quick to pass judgement on AP when we know so little.
Not sure why people are so quick to pass judgement on AP when we know so little.
Ever Present Lurker
Footballguy
Holy ####! People, shut up already! This is horrible topic, is clearly upsetting to people who have endured similar tragedy and is a horrible tribute to the life lost. The child is gone, this is awful. Now is the time for quiet. Stop talking about how it might apply to you. It doesn't.
Chickenwang
Footballguy
You must live alone, in a wilderness, away from civilization. If not, I fear for the people who are around you
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SameSongNDance
Footballguy
Because he pointed out your hilariously hypocritical statement he must live alone in the wilderness? I don't see the connection.
Dork Matter
Footballguy
CariocaSean
Footballguy
We really don't know all the details involved. Just based on what we do know, I would speculate that the child was really not a part of him or his loved ones lives. While it is truly saddening what happened, it may actually be inappropriate for AP to be around trying to give support to the ones who actually loved the child and were a part of the child's lives. And it may not be having quite the emotional impact on AP's actual loved ones as one would think. This is just how things work, nothing to judge about. If the child was not a part of their lives, it isn't going to have the same emotional impact.
Things are not always as simple as many of you want to look at them.
Edit to add: the TMZ story makes clear that this was true. Also, football is not a typical job.
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CariocaSean
Footballguy
ShockTheMonkey
Footballguy
I can think of one guy who had a lot of rage and took it out on a 2 year old baby. I imagine AP has a lot of rage and I'm willing to bet he takes it out on some linebackers and safeties. I can respect that.Jello_Biafra said:
This is just an azzhole comment. There are obviously a lot of people posting in this thread who either don't have children or don't have close relationships with their children.
WOW. ONce again, people are looking at this all kinds of wrong. There is a HUGE difference between losing akid you know and love daily and one you didn't even know existed until a short time ago, have limited emotional attachment to, and virtually zero place in his daily life. Not ony did ADP have no place in the child's daily life, but he wasn't even remotely close to anybody who was. It's beyond absurd to judge him in this case.Jello_Biafra said:
No reason for ADP to miss a game unless the funeral is arranged for Sunday. He will (and should) miss a few days of practice to attend.
Soulfly3
Footballguy
Warrior = a guy who chooses to PRACTICE playing sports instead of attending his child's dying moments??
Oh, he only RECENTLY found out it was his? That changes everything!!! Oh wait, a multimillionaire couldnt scrounge some pennies together to take a first class flight to go meet his CHILD?
I don't know AP - I just know he's a wicked footballer.
Not a wicked human being.
A real WARRIOR, would hop on the first ####### flight he could to go meet the child HE NEVER KNEW HE HAD, the second he found out about it.
And we wonder why the world is so ####ed up? Cuz sports is more important that your own creation.
Morons.
Oh, he only RECENTLY found out it was his? That changes everything!!! Oh wait, a multimillionaire couldnt scrounge some pennies together to take a first class flight to go meet his CHILD?
I don't know AP - I just know he's a wicked footballer.
Not a wicked human being.
A real WARRIOR, would hop on the first ####### flight he could to go meet the child HE NEVER KNEW HE HAD, the second he found out about it.
And we wonder why the world is so ####ed up? Cuz sports is more important that your own creation.
Morons.
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donkshow
Footballguy
When I lose loved ones, the last thing I want to do is sit there feeling sorry for myself and having others feeling sorry for me. I grieve my own way and that is thinking about them at all times, but not alone in my room. Going out and doing what I love. I wouldn't want people sitting around crying when I pass, I want them to do what they love while not forgetting about me.
Literally every single person deals with tragedy differently and I don't think it's fair to judge Peterson one way or the other in this case.
Literally every single person deals with tragedy differently and I don't think it's fair to judge Peterson one way or the other in this case.
pollardsvision
Footballguy
A 2 year old was taken from this earth, and that's really all that matters here.
How the parents choose to proceed from here is of too little consequence to worry about at all.
Now, if that damn woman is torn up with guilt for the rest of her life for letting that monster near her child everyday, I won't lose sleep over that.
How the parents choose to proceed from here is of too little consequence to worry about at all.
Now, if that damn woman is torn up with guilt for the rest of her life for letting that monster near her child everyday, I won't lose sleep over that.
BaBastage
Footballguy
I'll put on the fire ######ant suit for the possible flaming, but:
- For those of you saying that AP should be grieving, we don't know the emotional relationship he's had with the mother or child. For all we know, he barely knows the child and therefore his emotional reaction is completely different than what we would feel if we lost a child we raised and loved.
- For those of you who say, "AP was the father. It doesn't matter whether or not they were close, he has a responsibility". I beg to differ. While there are plenty of deadbeat fathers who bail on pregnant women, there are also gold-digging women who manage to get celebrities and athletes into bed in order to get pregnant... again we don't know the facts.
Really, none of that is our business. What *IS* our business is that the number of children killed every year by child abuse is tragic and unacceptable. THAT's what we should be pissed off about, not whether or not Adrian Peterson plays a game this weekend that's meaningless in the big picture of the universe.
- For those of you saying that AP should be grieving, we don't know the emotional relationship he's had with the mother or child. For all we know, he barely knows the child and therefore his emotional reaction is completely different than what we would feel if we lost a child we raised and loved.
- For those of you who say, "AP was the father. It doesn't matter whether or not they were close, he has a responsibility". I beg to differ. While there are plenty of deadbeat fathers who bail on pregnant women, there are also gold-digging women who manage to get celebrities and athletes into bed in order to get pregnant... again we don't know the facts.
Really, none of that is our business. What *IS* our business is that the number of children killed every year by child abuse is tragic and unacceptable. THAT's what we should be pissed off about, not whether or not Adrian Peterson plays a game this weekend that's meaningless in the big picture of the universe.
Soulfly3
Footballguy
So this "gold digger" waited nearly two years to tell AP he was the dad?
A paternity test takes almost no time at all.. days at the most. If she was after the $, she woulda had it right off the bat.
