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Avoid Mike Wallace, the Raven? (3 Viewers)
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Bojang0301
Omar4Heisman
He's definitely becoming a buy low. If they use him like a Percy Harvin where he is getting all sorts of touches he's going to have a good year in PPR leagues.
ChuckLiddell
Footballguy
In standard leagues too. Wallace IMO has gone from "avoid" in 2013, to "target" in 2014. In all formats.
zamboni
Footballguy
I think so, too, because many people are going to shy away from him due to the bust factor last year.
But it's clear that the Dolphins want to get some return on their investment and will look to get the ball in his hands.
dickey moe
Fingerpicker
I'd be really happy to snag him as my WR3.
Window closing fast. Already 6.10 on FFC, climbing 2.5 rounds in the past 30 days. He'll be ADP mid-5th by the time August rolls around.
ROYALWITCHEESE
Footballguy
Bought him for Ben Tate about 2 months ago. If you bought him for 2013 post season prices, you could get a return of his 2011-12 value...
Mike Wallace: I might return kicks for the Miami Dolphins
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000365297/article/mike-wallace-i-might-return-kicks-for-miami-dolphins
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000365297/article/mike-wallace-i-might-return-kicks-for-miami-dolphins
Skeletore Eh
Footballguy
Mike Wallace - WR - Dolphins
Mike Wallace (hamstring) will not practice until at least next week.
Wallace said his hamstring was "tight" earlier this week and then sat out Wednesday's session. So he'll rest it for a few days, meaning he'll miss Saturday's intrasquad scrimmage. Wallace's tweak doesn't sound overly severe, but we hate when speed-reliant wideouts have soft-tissue problems in their legs. It's something to monitor once the prime bounce-back candidate does get back on the field.
Source: Armando Salguero on Twitter
Jul 31 - 8:25 AM
Mike Wallace (hamstring) will not practice until at least next week.
Wallace said his hamstring was "tight" earlier this week and then sat out Wednesday's session. So he'll rest it for a few days, meaning he'll miss Saturday's intrasquad scrimmage. Wallace's tweak doesn't sound overly severe, but we hate when speed-reliant wideouts have soft-tissue problems in their legs. It's something to monitor once the prime bounce-back candidate does get back on the field.
Source: Armando Salguero on Twitter
Jul 31 - 8:25 AM
Mr Non Sequitur
Footballguy
Note to sharks: Week 1 is brutal but hope if you don't own Wallace that you can find a hurt owner come week 2 because the schedule gets a lot easier for Miami. Look for Wallace and Tannehill to be easy buy low types. Tannehill could be on the WW in some redraft leagues.
SWC
Bromigo
brohans this spicy fast muchacho is not really that good at football so i would still be very cautious about drafting him if the game was him versus some other guy in a race then yeah i would take him in the third of forth round but that is not what football is about they do not just have races they have games and you win the game on the field not in a race so take that to the bank bromigos
I've always liked Wallace, but passed on him in the draft this year. (Have Calvin and D.Thomas)
So, yesterday an owner drops Wallace and L.Miller - guess he didn't want any Dolphins
So, I drop Cooks from NO who was my 11th rounder and grabbed Wallace as my WR3.
Nice move. I'm a believer as well. I traded Kendall Wright for him. I see a serious chip on Wallace's shoulder this year.I've always liked Wallace, but passed on him in the draft this year. (Have Calvin and D.Thomas)
So, yesterday an owner drops Wallace and L.Miller - guess he didn't want any Dolphins
So, I drop Cooks from NO who was my 11th rounder and grabbed Wallace as my WR3.
Hello troll. Please skip to 2:15 http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/0ap3000000390975/Week-1-Patriots-vs-Dolphins
Wallace could run out of bounds but instead he lowers his shoulder and initiates contact. Probably the opposite of what someone would do if they were lazy and heartless.
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
It's been great watching and owning Wallace this year - but this Tannehill thing worries me. I really thought this offense would be lights out blazing, and as well as Wallace has done (right now he is no. 12 in a 0.5 ppr league for me) it's frustrating thinking of the chances missed.
They have Oakland coming up - that sounds like a great matchup but you know what, Oak is just 28th in FFPA vs WR so far. And then there is a bye, where there could be a QB change if Tanny does not deliver.
Anyone have any idea how Wallace would do with Moore? [Edited]. Is this a time to move him, or does this get better, or stays steady, or get worse, thoughts?
They have Oakland coming up - that sounds like a great matchup but you know what, Oak is just 28th in FFPA vs WR so far. And then there is a bye, where there could be a QB change if Tanny does not deliver.
Anyone have any idea how Wallace would do with Moore? [Edited]. Is this a time to move him, or does this get better, or stays steady, or get worse, thoughts?
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Wallace hasn't ever played with Moore. He's only been there since last year and Tannehill hasn't missed any games. Anyway, Wallace's YPR (12.4) can't really get much worse with Moore. Personally, I'm not that worried about Tannehill losing his job. I mean, Philbin is going to be grasping at anything to try to save his job, but I doubt Moore gives them a better chance to win. It's a new system. I think everyone will get better in it as time goes on. I would not sell Wallace. If he's WR12 without the deep balls, just think what he'll be when they finally connect on a couple bombs...
I can't see why you would think the O would be lights out - maybe improve w/ the year of practice and Moreno addition but they are still a plodding offense.
Wallace has blazing speed and runs good routes but has mediocre hands and is not a ball hawk (like AB who replaced him). You need to be accurate to get him the ball or run the bubble screens and short routes. The precision required there is harder than it looks from where I sit.
need2know
Footballguy
I always thought moore was ok. Don't think this really changes much for wallace imo. I don't understand the qb change though. Moore is not going to win games for them
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
It seems to me the way this should work is that a guy like Tannehill uses his feet to buy time (like Ben), which in turn buys Wallace time, which leaves Wallace wide open. Tannehill is not doing that.
What exactly is a plodding offense?? FWIW, they are 5th in the NFL in plays per game. So they appear to be quite the opposite of plodding. Last year they were 25th, which seems much more fitting for the plodding label...
Kenny Powers
Footballguy
Yeah as long as Moore targets Wallace like Tannehill is as his #1, I wouldnt be worried about it either. It would almost certainly lead to Wallace catching more bombs.
Touchdown There
Footballguy
I hope Tannehill never plays another snap. So terrible.
ChuckLiddell
Footballguy
John 14:6
Jesus is Lord!
Agreed, Allen has the same concern as a TD dependent player. I guess it's more likely for him to score on the better offense, though...The Wallace owner in my league is deep at WR so I'd been talking to him about trading Ingram or Bradshaw for him (I also have Murray and lacy...)
flapgreen
Footballguy
Dude will never change. Getting rid of him was the best thing the Steelers ever did.
Jack White
Footballguy
I've never understood this. What does owning Luck have to do with how many points Allen will score?BigDave said:
Ditka Butkus
Footballguy
"Just give him the damn ball".....Usually this type of rant works in a players favor...I like it.
What a troll. Get over it, dude. Earlier you tried to claim he was lazy and heartless, but he clearly cares or else he wouldn't say anything and would just take the paycheck. I've also seen him initiate contact on many occasions this year rather than run out of bounds. He's fighting for yards which is pretty much the opposite of lazy and heartless. Go troll elsewhere.
ROYALWITCHEESE
Footballguy
Yeah let's trade the dude that's busting his ### out there.
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
0 catches. Seems like he got benched after having words with Tannehill on the sidelines.
Mike Wallace conducts bizarre locker room availability
I covered last year's harassment scandal. I saw Daunte Culpepper hand out press releases about himself to the media to fight the team's position that it was cutting him in 2007. I reported on the disagreements between Dan Marino and Jimmy Johnson and covered each of their departure pressers in the wake of 62-7.
And today I witnessed the most bizarre locker room session in my career.
Mike Wallace, benched in the second half by coaches after he had a disagreement with a coach and, by extension, Ryan Tannehill, declined to speak to the media after the game.
But only sort of.
He asked Brandon Gibson to handle the questions to him so as to avoid not saying the wrong thing. This is not a new Wallace approach. His first game with the Dolphins he was upset after the game for not being targetted and refused to talk to reporters.
That was not a good look and Wallace obviously realized it. So today, he adapted. he didn't talk. But his sentiments got out there through Gibson, who stood shoulder to shoulder with Wallace answering the questions directed at Wallace.
It was surreal.
This is how it went ...
Question to Mike Wallace: Mike, we didn't see you a whole lot after the first half. Were you injured or what was happening?
Answer from Brandon Gibson: "You know, um, differences in opinion led us to Mike probably not playing in the second half. So that was decision by the coaches. That was kind of the way we went."
Question to Mike Wallace: Where you told you could not play in the secong half?
Answer from Brandon Gibson: "Coming in the second half, starting in the second half, we were notified Mike was not going to play the second half. Brian moved over to Mike's position. I moved to Brian's position. Jarvis stayed in the slot. That's all that was told."
Question to MIke Wallace: Mike, did you have a problem with the fact you were targetted only once in the first half?
Answer from Brandon Gibson: "It's obviously frustrating for any player. Used to being a player who can make plays down the field, the middle of the field, short, but sometimes that's how it rolls and obviously frustrations ... that was due to frustrations."
Question to Brandon Gibson: And why is this happening?
Brandon Gibson: "Just don't want my dog to say anything wrong."
Question to Mike Wallace: Do you expect to be back next year?
Answer from Brandon Gibson: "That remains to be seen, obviously, we can't discuss anything right now. Moving forward, I plan on being a Dolphin as long as my contract allows me to be."
Question to Mike Wallace: Who was the difference of opinion between?
Answer from Brandon Gibson: "Honestly, things that were communicated or misunderstood or said that things didn't work out to a lot of communication that just didn't work out."
(Yeah, no idea).
Question to Mike Wallace: Mike, were you playing any less hard at the end of the half than you were at the beginning of the half?
Answer from Brandon Gibson: "I think if you watch the film, I play hard each and every play whether I'm blocking, running the deep pass, short pass. You can watch the film and my play speaks for itself."
Question to Mike Wallace: And Brandon Gibson's words represent your words?
Mike Wallace: "Definitely."
Wallace: We good?
No more questions are asked.
Gibson: "Appreciate everything. Have a good offseason."
This is so Miami Dolphins.
Read more here: http://miamiherald.typepad.com/dolphins_in_depth/#storylink=cpy
I covered last year's harassment scandal. I saw Daunte Culpepper hand out press releases about himself to the media to fight the team's position that it was cutting him in 2007. I reported on the disagreements between Dan Marino and Jimmy Johnson and covered each of their departure pressers in the wake of 62-7.
And today I witnessed the most bizarre locker room session in my career.
Mike Wallace, benched in the second half by coaches after he had a disagreement with a coach and, by extension, Ryan Tannehill, declined to speak to the media after the game.
But only sort of.
He asked Brandon Gibson to handle the questions to him so as to avoid not saying the wrong thing. This is not a new Wallace approach. His first game with the Dolphins he was upset after the game for not being targetted and refused to talk to reporters.
That was not a good look and Wallace obviously realized it. So today, he adapted. he didn't talk. But his sentiments got out there through Gibson, who stood shoulder to shoulder with Wallace answering the questions directed at Wallace.
It was surreal.
This is how it went ...
Question to Mike Wallace: Mike, we didn't see you a whole lot after the first half. Were you injured or what was happening?
Answer from Brandon Gibson: "You know, um, differences in opinion led us to Mike probably not playing in the second half. So that was decision by the coaches. That was kind of the way we went."
Question to Mike Wallace: Where you told you could not play in the secong half?
Answer from Brandon Gibson: "Coming in the second half, starting in the second half, we were notified Mike was not going to play the second half. Brian moved over to Mike's position. I moved to Brian's position. Jarvis stayed in the slot. That's all that was told."
Question to MIke Wallace: Mike, did you have a problem with the fact you were targetted only once in the first half?
Answer from Brandon Gibson: "It's obviously frustrating for any player. Used to being a player who can make plays down the field, the middle of the field, short, but sometimes that's how it rolls and obviously frustrations ... that was due to frustrations."
Question to Brandon Gibson: And why is this happening?
Brandon Gibson: "Just don't want my dog to say anything wrong."
Question to Mike Wallace: Do you expect to be back next year?
Answer from Brandon Gibson: "That remains to be seen, obviously, we can't discuss anything right now. Moving forward, I plan on being a Dolphin as long as my contract allows me to be."
Question to Mike Wallace: Who was the difference of opinion between?
Answer from Brandon Gibson: "Honestly, things that were communicated or misunderstood or said that things didn't work out to a lot of communication that just didn't work out."
(Yeah, no idea).
Question to Mike Wallace: Mike, were you playing any less hard at the end of the half than you were at the beginning of the half?
Answer from Brandon Gibson: "I think if you watch the film, I play hard each and every play whether I'm blocking, running the deep pass, short pass. You can watch the film and my play speaks for itself."
Question to Mike Wallace: And Brandon Gibson's words represent your words?
Mike Wallace: "Definitely."
Wallace: We good?
No more questions are asked.
Gibson: "Appreciate everything. Have a good offseason."
This is so Miami Dolphins.
Read more here: http://miamiherald.typepad.com/dolphins_in_depth/#storylink=cpy
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
The guy needs to grow up. His act is so tired.
massraider
Footballguy
http://overthecap.com/player/mike-wallace/519
His contract is brutal. He cannot be traded, not with that deal.'
Cut him. He has 3 mill guaranteed next year. Big deal. Take away 6 mill from him next year, and see if a known quitter can get a deal like that elsewhere.
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