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Backup RBs...who's your 2nd Half Lottery Ticket? (1 Viewer)

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1. For the 2nd Half of the year, what RBs do you like to take over and provide some FF value?

2. Which do you consider to be lottery tickets if the guy ahead of them goes out with injury?

3. Which of these guys are you dropping?

1. Decent value now?

Jon Stewart Good TD chances vs. bad rush DEF, should be a very good start if DeAngelo misses time.

Reggie Bush Decent start in PPR while L. Moore is out? He had 7 catches last week (up from fewer than 4 touches/game the last couple weeks) and has received some goalline carries. Touches would go up with MBell or PThomas injury.

Mi Bell Not sure about receptions, but will get the carries in NO if PT loses any time.

R. Moats Goalline, 50% carries, some catches? Will his fumble get him benched?

L. Betts Should get carries next week (vs. DEN, though), might get more if Portis doesn't come back right away? Seems to lose goalline to Rock Cartwright and/or catches to Sellers? Not exactly a bonanza Offense.

Maurice Morris How hurt is Kevin Smith, and do you want the #2 RB in DET?

Kolby Smith, Jamaal Charles The b/w the tackles and 3rd down back on KC? Any takers? Dantrell Savage being worked in?

Darren McFadden Will he regain his job? RBBC with Fargas on a bad offense?

D. Sproles

J. Harrison

2. Lottery Ticket?

Beanie Wells: Seems to be helping the ARI rushing attack...might be a good late year RB3/Flex vs. bad opponents?

T. Choice Third down touches and some Wildcat...but really no chance for consistency unless Felix or MBIII are out?

3. Droppable?

Fred Jackson

Shonne Green

Michael Bush

Edit to add Mi Bell, Jerome Harrison, D.Sproles,

 
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McCoy qualifies for both of the first two categories, IMO.

With Reid mumbling something more about Westbrook's ankle, as well as the concussion, I don't see how McCoy isn't being given near double digit touches going forward even when Westbrook plays. So he already has value. If Westbrook goes down again his stock goes immediately upwards.

His schedule is pretty middling. There's only really maybe one matchup that looks flat-out bad, in my mind(Denver....and even they can be had). Even if he's the unquestioned workhorse in a given game, he likely won't be dropping any 120 yard rush games on anyone, but between rushing/receiving totals he'll probably be a pretty good bet for 100 total yards and a shot at a TD any game he starts.

No way would I drop Greene yet, unless I was just absolutely loaded at RB or benches were super short and I was in trouble elsewhere. The guy is a Jones tweaked hamstring/twisted ankle away from getting 20+ carries a game behind a great OL, in a "ground and pound" offense that still has the Panthers, Jags, Bills and Bucs on the schedule.

 
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McGahee and Taylor are getting dropped alot now, great lottery tickets who will be in good spots if Rice or Peterson go down.

Scott is another guy who is interesting, as Cinci is committed to the run. Not as clear he'll be a bell cow if Benson goes down.

 
I like Beanie and traded for him a few weeks ago when his value was lower and he wasn't getting any touches.

A guy on the cheap would be Jerome Harrison. Not only is he behind a less than savory option in J.Lewis, but his playoff schedule is very nice.

One risky, yet potential move that could pay off is the Houston RB situation: Right now both Slaton and Moats' value have fallen. Slaton obviously after losing the starting job, and Moats after looking subpar last week. If you could get them both on the cheap and let the situation work itself out, you could have a nice couple of week run with that position. The playoff schedule is very nice. Of course, this situation could continue to be clear as mud, and you could end up wasting 2 roster spots, so I think this is only an option if you can get them both cheap, which is certainly possible if someone just wants to completely wash their hands of the mess altogether.

 
bicycle_seat_sniffer said:
Im sooooo close to cutting Donald Brown in re-draft.
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I think Donald Brown and Shonn Greene are both a hold right now, if possible. Greene has a really nice playoff schedule, and Addai has been pretty ineffective in an NFL sense (3.4 ypc and 6.1 ypr). I'd rather have these guys than Reggie Bush, Betts, Morris, Choice, Smith, Charles. Maybe Moats too. I like Maroney & Wells as lotto tickets, but boy are they risky if you are counting on them.
 
My enthusiasm for Beanie has really wanted the past two weeks. After the Giants' game, I thought his role was starting to expand and that, combined with a very favorable schedule, made him a fine second-half target. But he continues to be a non-factor in the passing game and this week's game against the Bears was really disconcerting. This was the ideal game for Wells to do something and while he ran well, his overall production was pretty pedestrian from a fantasy perspective. Despite the fact the Cardinals led big the entire game, Wells only got 13 carries and 0 receptions. If he can't even top 15 touches in a game in which Arizona controls from start to finish, it makes me wonder how much value he's going to have.

I think he's a fine talent but I think his situation stinks for him and because of that, he may not even be a RB3 most weeks.

 
Two guys that seem to look good "when" they are given a chance:

J. Charles

J. Forsett

I have to think both will get more looks as the season goes on.

Another guy that could put up numbers if Mende goes down again is M. Moore

 
I think Knowshon could turn in a second half similar to William Green's rookie year where he put up 834 yards and 5 TDs from weeks 10-16.

Donald Brown and Felix Jones are big upside guys too but you have to be patient with all three.

 
Sammy Morris - he's been dropped everywhere in my leagues.

Of course it's NE so you never know but I could see if putting up points instead of Maroney

ETA: I guess not a backup perse

I'll change it to Bernard Scott

 
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As a Pierre Thomas owner, Mike Bell is not only a lottery ticet but a handcuff.

Donald Brown is my real 'lottery' ticket other although I am also keen on Lary Johnson right now to replace Ledale White (handcuff to CJ).

 
i don't get why people are low on donald brown and beanie wells in this thread.

just about every other running back in this thread needs an injury to the starter in front of them to see carries, but these two are currently receiving lots of touches and behind a starter with low ypc.

brown needs to get healthy, but as long as addai continues his 3 yards and a cloud of dust routine in indianapolis, i can see brown getting some major touches the second half of the season.

wells needs to pick up blitzes better to see more touches, but his dominance on the ground over hightower is clear.

 
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i don't get why people are low on donald brown and beanie wells in this thread.just about every other running back in this thread needs an injury to the starter in front of them to see carries, but these two are currently receiving lots of touches and behind a starter with low ypc. brown needs to get healthy, but as long as addai continues his 3 yards and a cloud of dust routine in indianapolis, i can see brown getting some major touches the second half of the season. wells needs to pick up blitzes better to see more touches, but his dominance on the ground over hightower is clear.
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roster spots are valuable commodities, regardless of Addais perceived bad stats. He's performing well from an NFL standpoint and I doubt Brown will see his role increased when he returns from injury and they are not going to just bench Addai, save a major injury Addai is getting the bulk of the work there.Beanie? not sure what to think there. Hightower is the GL back and the pass receiver as well. I think owners hoping for something out of either guy this year might be hoping and praying
 
Greene is the guy I am stashing. Don't think there is much value, but there is huge upside with an injury to Jones.

 
bicycle_seat_sniffer said:
strong said:
i don't get why people are low on donald brown and beanie wells in this thread.just about every other running back in this thread needs an injury to the starter in front of them to see carries, but these two are currently receiving lots of touches and behind a starter with low ypc. brown needs to get healthy, but as long as addai continues his 3 yards and a cloud of dust routine in indianapolis, i can see brown getting some major touches the second half of the season. wells needs to pick up blitzes better to see more touches, but his dominance on the ground over hightower is clear.
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roster spots are valuable commodities, regardless of Addais perceived bad stats. He's performing well from an NFL standpoint and I doubt Brown will see his role increased when he returns from injury and they are not going to just bench Addai, save a major injury Addai is getting the bulk of the work there.Beanie? not sure what to think there. Hightower is the GL back and the pass receiver as well. I think owners hoping for something out of either guy this year might be hoping and praying
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I'm a Brown owner and agree that they aren't going to bench Addai. Think there's a chance that Brown sees more of a workload in the final weeks of the season (during FF playoffs) if the Colts lock up a playoff spot real early?
 
I drafted Moreno, Beanie & D Brown, hoping one of them would be a monster down the stretch...ain't gonna happen for any of them for various reasons--Moreno just isn't very good; Wells is on the wrong team & Brown is hurt behind an incumbent who is actually playing pretty well. Just not the year to count on a rookie RB it seems

 
No one has mentioned Lynch? Opps sorry thread said backup RBs. But Lynch as bad as he has performed could be a lotto.

 
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5-ish Finkle said:
McCoy qualifies for both of the first two categories, IMO.With Reid mumbling something more about Westbrook's ankle, as well as the concussion, I don't see how McCoy isn't being given near double digit touches going forward even when Westbrook plays. So he already has value. If Westbrook goes down again his stock goes immediately upwards.His schedule is pretty middling. There's only really maybe one matchup that looks flat-out bad, in my mind(Denver....and even they can be had). Even if he's the unquestioned workhorse in a given game, he likely won't be dropping any 120 yard rush games on anyone, but between rushing/receiving totals he'll probably be a pretty good bet for 100 total yards and a shot at a TD any game he starts.No way would I drop Greene yet, unless I was just absolutely loaded at RB or benches were super short and I was in trouble elsewhere. The guy is a Jones tweaked hamstring/twisted ankle away from getting 20+ carries a game behind a great OL, in a "ground and pound" offense that still has the Panthers, Jags, Bills and Bucs on the schedule.
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I was thinking McCoy too.My question is... is Westy coming back at all?
 
fflnut said:
I'm a Brown owner and agree that they aren't going to bench Addai. Think there's a chance that Brown sees more of a workload in the final weeks of the season (during FF playoffs) if the Colts lock up a playoff spot real early?
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I think they rest both Brown and Addai late in the season if they have nothing to play for. Both guys are valuable to them so I think they'll rest them both and go with Simpson and/or Hart if they are in meaningless games.
 
I guess when I think lotto ticket, I think something that costs very little to acquire, has a low chance of a high reward.

1. Mike Bell

2. Donald Brown

3. Chester Taylor

4. Shonn Greene

5. Rashad Jennings

All of these guys play for offenses that can score points. If the guy in front of them gets hurt, they stand to gets serious reps. Most importantly I think at least the top 3 have shown the talent to take advantage of it.

 
Kitrick Taylor said:
I guess when I think lotto ticket, I think something that costs very little to acquire, has a low chance of a high reward.

1. Mike Bell

2. Donald Brown

3. Chester Taylor

4. Shonn Greene

5. Rashad Jennings

All of these guys play for offenses that can score points. If the guy in front of them gets hurt, they stand to gets serious reps. Most importantly I think at least the top 3 4 have shown the talent to take advantage of it.
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Justin forsett. Julius Jones have done a whole lot of nothing recently and I don't know why they continue to start him.

 
bicycle_seat_sniffer said:
strong said:
i don't get why people are low on donald brown and beanie wells in this thread.

just about every other running back in this thread needs an injury to the starter in front of them to see carries, but these two are currently receiving lots of touches and behind a starter with low ypc.

brown needs to get healthy, but as long as addai continues his 3 yards and a cloud of dust routine in indianapolis, i can see brown getting some major touches the second half of the season.

wells needs to pick up blitzes better to see more touches, but his dominance on the ground over hightower is clear.
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roster spots are valuable commodities, regardless of Addais perceived bad stats. He's performing well from an NFL standpoint and I doubt Brown will see his role increased when he returns from injury and they are not going to just bench Addai, save a major injury Addai is getting the bulk of the work there.Beanie? not sure what to think there. Hightower is the GL back and the pass receiver as well.

I think owners hoping for something out of either guy this year might be hoping and praying
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sure, i doubt addai or hightower will be benched outright. but isn't everyone else in this thread hoping and praying when they say "X will be good if Y gets hurt"?

my point is that both running backs control their own destiny, more so than others listed.

which, in my opinion, gives them better chances of being relevant down the stretch

 
I like Shonne Green. The Jets are going to have to win at least 6 of the last 8 games of the season for a playoff spot. When that window closes I can see them throwing Green into the mix a lot more to give him experience and see what he's made of. It does no one any good to keep trotting an aging veteran, Jones, out there and not have a chance at the playoffs.

 
Knowshon is a guy who does not need an injury to become a lottery ticket. He has the opportunity to earn a significant role with his play.

Moreno has been bad the last three weeks (33 carries for 86yards, 2.6ypc 2 catches for -5 yards & 1 TD) but Buckhalter has not been stellar either (27 carries for 86 yards 3.2 ypc 12 catches for 63 yards & 0 TD).

I keep thinking back to William Green's rookie year when he did very little until week 10 (Jamel White was significantly outperforming him 583 yards, 4TDs to 166 yards & 1TD through 9 games) but then went on to put up 726 yards rushing, 108 yards receiving and 5 TDs over the final 7 games.

Denver also plays the #24, #25, #27 & #29 rushing defenses over the next six weeks (#10, #13 & #14 are the other three).

 
What about Danny Ware?

Jacobs could take a low hit, and Bradshaw is one misstep away from a broken foot and season ending surgery...

 
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What about Danny Ware? Jacobs could take a low hit, and Bradshaw is one misstep away from a broken foot and season ending surgery...
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good call on this one, probably the injury lotto with the best chances here. jacobs had a knee "injury" sunday and came out for a couple of plays... they immediately put in ware who received back to back touches. if you have jacobs or bradshaw or both, i'd say ware is worth a roster spot as a handcuff.
 
dmac37 said:
Two guys that seem to look good "when" they are given a chance:J. CharlesJ. ForsettI have to think both will get more looks as the season goes on.Another guy that could put up numbers if Mende goes down again is M. Moore
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:unsure: I may be a little smarter than my wife gives me credit for :D
 
Several starters went down this week who is the back to own?

Fantasy Football Waiver Wire Advice

NFL Week 11

Justin Forsett, RB, SEA - Welcome to the NFL Justin Forsett! The seventh round pick from the 2008 NFL Draft showed he has a place in this league, making the most of his opportunity to tote the rock after Julius Jones left the game with a chest injury. Forsett looked explosive and ran over the Red Birds to the tune of 123 yards and a TD on just 17 attempts. He also showed good hands pulling in the ball 5 times for 26 receiving yards. News on Jones will develop as the week progresses, but in the meantime, Forsett has earned the right to get more carries. How many more carries depends on the health of Jones.

Bernard Scott, RB, CIN - FootballDocs denies any allegations we had anything to do with Benson's injury this weekend. If you read this column regularly, you know we have been recommending to pick-up Scott ahead of the curve while his stock remained low. This week will be a much different story, as Scott will be in high demand after Cedric Benson suffered a hip injury on Sunday that forced him to leave the game. Scott racked up 206 return yards, a return TD, 33 rushing yards, and one reception for 21 yards. He is a super talent and a thug, which makes him a perfect fit for the Bengals. The basis for our pick-up Scott recommendation last week was the huge load Benson had up to that point in the season, particularly relative to the loads he has experienced in previous years (huge, step increase this year). Details for this basis can be found in this article, Effect of RB Carries on Future Production.

Jason Snelling, RB, ATL - Speaking of our Effect of RB Carries on Future Production article, we had all sorts of warning signs for Michael Turner entering the season, and he went down with a high-ankle sprain this past weekend. Whether it is high-ankle sprains, ACLs, or hips, a body can only take so much abuse from hit after hit as the cumulative damage relative to a "short" off-season predisposes a RB to injury, particularly if he received a huge step increase in workload (i.e. the body is not conditioned to regular abuse at a high level, let alone record breaking abuse like Turner endured last season). Turner is scheduled for a MRI today, but even if it just remains at a high-ankle sprain, that is not good news for Turner and Falcons fans. While we hope the best for Turner with a speedy recovery, high ankle sprains take a while to heal and should limit him (assuming hopefully that is all he has). In the meantime, Snelling carried the load for the Dirty Birds, posting 61 rushing yards and a TD on 18 attempts. He also had 32 receiving yards on 3 receptions. Snelling will be another hot pick-up this week.

 
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I've been desperately collecting "cross my fingers" RB's in a highly cutthroat league. Looks like Forsett might pan out for me (who I was thiiiiissss clost to dropping last week, whew...). Along with MJD, I'm holding onto a stable of: Reggie Bush, Mike Bell, L. McCoy, J. Forsett, T. Choice, S. Morris, and D. Ward (should be droppable finally).

 
While not a backup, Larry Johnson looks very much like he might have a shot at becoming a 2nd half lottery ticket.

 
been holding B. Scott (due to his apparent talent and Cedric's ridiculous workload) and Danny Ware (due to bradshaw's cracked foot and Jacobs' injury prone nature, not to mention all word is this guy can run)

 
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