BC coach fired for interviewing with Jets (1 Viewer)

[Kiddnets]

Never saw this before - guess the guy really want to be a Jet - has to be more to the story....

Dan Patrick, who might or might not be transmogrifying into a college football reporter, reports that Boston College coach Jeff Jagodzinski is out, based on his decision to interview for the current head-coaching vacancy with the New York Jets.

On Sunday night, ESPN’s Chris Mortensen reported that Jagodzinski had been threatened with termination if he went through with the interview.

Patrick, citing an unnamed source, had said that Jagodzinski would interview for the Jets job on Monday night and Tuesday, despite the threat of termination.

The next question becomes whether Jagodzinksi is entitled to the balance of his contract at Boston College.

Our guess is that, unless interviewing for the Jets job constitutes “cause” for firing him, the Eagles will be on the hook for the rest of the money.

The school likely will be reduced by Jagodzinski’s salary from his next coaching job. And if he gets the job in New York, he likely will make even more money.

 

[PewterFan]

It's not good for a program when their Head Coach, who's under contract, starts flirting with other teams. Good for Boston College.

 

[Mr Capicollo]

I know that colleges resent this, but this is very much part of "the game" when it comes to coaching. I have to suspect that BC knows this and that there's some other reasons here why their relationship deteriorated.

 

[Unwrittenlaw]

Idiotic decision by BC. What coach will want to coach there now? I mean the guy was just interviewing for the job. The only scenario I could possibly see was that Jagodzinksi promised BC that he would be there longterm.

 

[Kiddnets]

It's not good for a program when their Head Coach, who's under contract, starts flirting with other teams. Good for Boston College.

I guessit comes down to the coach - would Okla dump stoops for flirting? Jagz must have been on shaky ground anyway IMO

 

[Mr Capicollo]

It's not good for a program when their Head Coach, who's under contract, starts flirting with other teams. Good for Boston College.

My position on employment matters is that I tend not to take sides based upon philosophy. It's a contest between two bargaining positions, so who cares. BC obviously feels like their bargaining position with regards to potential head coaching candidates is strong enough that they can preclude coaches from their customary off-season flirtations with other jobs by making that a fireable offense. I disagree with them on that, but whatever. The other alternative, like I said, is that there's some other problem(s) that popped up in this relationship such that BC simply decided to fire him using this as a pretext. Either way, the parties have made their beds and now they get to lie in them.

 

[Drunken Cowboy]

It's not good for a program when their Head Coach, who's under contract, starts flirting with other teams. Good for Boston College.

No stupid call by BC. He is a good coach. Why would you push him out? The pros wanting your head coach raises the profile of your program. It will also hurt their ability to get anybody in the future.

 

[Why Me?]

Idiotic decision by BC. What coach will want to coach there now? I mean the guy was just interviewing for the job. The only scenario I could possibly see was that Jagodzinksi promised BC that he would be there longterm.

I have no doubt this is the case. BC went way out on a limb to give this guy his first HC job, and they paid him more than they've paid any other coachin their history. In return Jags promised DiFilippo he'd stick around for at least three years and now he's reneged on that promise.

 

[Unwrittenlaw]

Also, he was never really strongly considered for the Jets job. There are lots of coordinators that will probably be considered before him. BC should feel privileged that their head coach is getting a chance to interview for the job.

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

Idiotic decision by BC. What coach will want to coach there now? I mean the guy was just interviewing for the job. The only scenario I could possibly see was that Jagodzinksi promised BC that he would be there longterm.

I have no doubt this is the case. BC went way out on a limb to give this guy his first HC job, and they paid him more than they've paid any other coachin their history. In return Jags promised DiFilippo he'd stick around for at least three years and now he's reneged on that promise.

Doesn't matter who is right or wrong. It's still a stupid decision by DeFillipo especially to go public with it. If I'm a good coach, why would I put myself in a situation working for a guy like that?

 

[Fiddles]

Idiotic decision by BC. What coach will want to coach there now? I mean the guy was just interviewing for the job. The only scenario I could possibly see was that Jagodzinksi promised BC that he would be there longterm.

I have no doubt this is the case. BC went way out on a limb to give this guy his first HC job, and they paid him more than they've paid any other coachin their history. In return Jags promised DiFilippo he'd stick around for at least three years and now he's reneged on that promise.

didnt bc do pretty well while he was there? have to add that to what they received in return.

 

[skillz]

Why didn't BC just deny him permission to speak with other teams? Seems like that would prevent the problem altogether. He can't interview and they don't have to fire him.

 

[Why Me?]

Idiotic decision by BC. What coach will want to coach there now? I mean the guy was just interviewing for the job. The only scenario I could possibly see was that Jagodzinksi promised BC that he would be there longterm.

I have no doubt this is the case. BC went way out on a limb to give this guy his first HC job, and they paid him more than they've paid any other coachin their history. In return Jags promised DiFilippo he'd stick around for at least three years and now he's reneged on that promise.

Doesn't matter who is right or wrong. It's still a stupid decision by DeFillipo especially to go public with it. If I'm a good coach, why would I put myself in a situation working for a guy like that?

A guy like what? One who expects you to keep a promise? If a prospective coach doesn't want to work for "a guy like that" then I don't want him coaching my team.btw - I freaking love Jags and this is all horrible news as a BC fan, but with the information I have now I have to side with Gene D on this one.

 

[Why Me?]

Why didn't BC just deny him permission to speak with other teams? Seems like that would prevent the problem altogether. He can't interview and they don't have to fire him.

Jets never asked permission, and Jags didn't ask either. This was all done secretly which I'm sure pissed Gene D off even more.

 

[SeniorVBDStudent]

Seems like a bland contract issue to me....sensationalized for the masses.

 

[Kiddnets]

other thought is why would he draw a line in the sand unless he knew that he had something in the bag with the Jets.

Heres a thought - what if Woody already decided on Schotty Jr and promised Jagz the OC position.

Just cant see the JEts hiring him as HC and dont see how he could let himself get fired over an interview...

 

[Mr Capicollo]

Idiotic decision by BC. What coach will want to coach there now? I mean the guy was just interviewing for the job. The only scenario I could possibly see was that Jagodzinksi promised BC that he would be there longterm.

I have no doubt this is the case. BC went way out on a limb to give this guy his first HC job, and they paid him more than they've paid any other coachin their history. In return Jags promised DiFilippo he'd stick around for at least three years and now he's reneged on that promise.

Is interviewing all it takes to "renege on that promise", or would it take actually accepting a job? Some people interview to gain experience or networking exposure with longer term interests in mind. It's not like Jagodzinksi was any sort of front-runner for the Jets job, right?This seems like an overreaction by BC here.

 

[dgreen]

Idiotic decision by BC. What coach will want to coach there now? I mean the guy was just interviewing for the job. The only scenario I could possibly see was that Jagodzinksi promised BC that he would be there longterm.

I have no doubt this is the case. BC went way out on a limb to give this guy his first HC job, and they paid him more than they've paid any other coachin their history. In return Jags promised DiFilippo he'd stick around for at least three years and now he's reneged on that promise.

Doesn't matter who is right or wrong. It's still a stupid decision by DeFillipo especially to go public with it. If I'm a good coach, why would I put myself in a situation working for a guy like that?

A guy like what? One who expects you to keep a promise?

I'd prefer to work for someone who realizes that I have to at least go to an interview for what is considered to be a much, much better job. You're freakin' Boston College. You have a nice program. But, you can't expect a HC worth having at your program would be someone who would turn down an interview with the NFL.I would guess he made such a promise under the assumption he wasn't going to get a shot at the NFL within a year.

 

[CrossEyed]

If he promised them 3 years and then went out and interviewed for another position after two, I have no problem with BC firing him. Have some integrity and keep your word.

 

[Man in the yellow hat]

We don't know the details. I'm sure we'll here more. But if he doesn't get the Jets job, then I would personally show up at the airport to welcome him back as Green Bay's offensive coordinator. I love the guy.

 

[Why Me?]

Idiotic decision by BC. What coach will want to coach there now? I mean the guy was just interviewing for the job. The only scenario I could possibly see was that Jagodzinksi promised BC that he would be there longterm.

I have no doubt this is the case. BC went way out on a limb to give this guy his first HC job, and they paid him more than they've paid any other coachin their history. In return Jags promised DiFilippo he'd stick around for at least three years and now he's reneged on that promise.

Doesn't matter who is right or wrong. It's still a stupid decision by DeFillipo especially to go public with it. If I'm a good coach, why would I put myself in a situation working for a guy like that?

A guy like what? One who expects you to keep a promise?

I'd prefer to work for someone who realizes that I have to at least go to an interview for what is considered to be a much, much better job. You're freakin' Boston College. You have a nice program. But, you can't expect a HC worth having at your program would be someone who would turn down an interview with the NFL.I would guess he made such a promise under the assumption he wasn't going to get a shot at the NFL within a year.

I see your points, but just two years ago he was freakin' Jeff Jagodzinski, a no-name candidate, carreer assistanst coach with zero head coaching experience at any level. BC was a GREAT job for a guy like him to get. BC was looking for stability and decided to give this guy a shot and pay him very well. In return they asked for assurances that he'd be here a few years - and he gave it to them. Now he's jumping at the first chance to move on. Lots of folks saying that this is good PR for BC, to have a coach considered for an NFL job. The timing is awful. It's nearing signing day and the perception that he has one foot out the door is not at all helpful when he's sitting in a kid's living room trying to sell BC. What would be helpful is if when the Jets expressed interest, he publicly said thanks but no thanks while reiterating his committment to Boston College.

 

[JamesTheScot]

Idiotic decision by BC. What coach will want to coach there now? I mean the guy was just interviewing for the job. The only scenario I could possibly see was that Jagodzinksi promised BC that he would be there longterm.

And by longterm do you mean fulfilling the remaining years on his contract? They can't fire him unless he's under contract with them.I got no beef with them doing this. Coaches don't interview for positions they have no interest in taking. So the coach is basically telling them "I'm looking for other opportinities and my contract won't hold me here if/when I find it". Would you still maintain a relationship with a girl who told you that?Or better yet, how would the coach feel if the school started interviewing other coaches while he was still under contract? "We're just sticking with you until someone we like better comes along."

 

[dgreen]

If he promised them 3 years and then went out and interviewed for another position after two, I have no problem with BC firing him. Have some integrity and keep your word.

That's one side of it. On the other side, if an employee of mine promised me 3 years and got an interview for a much better job prior to that, I'd encourage them to go on the interview and wouldn't hold it against them.

 

[Why Me?]

We don't know the details. I'm sure we'll here more. But if he doesn't get the Jets job, then I would personally show up at the airport to welcome him back as Green Bay's offensive coordinator. I love the guy.

me too :(

 

[Mr Capicollo]

Coaches don't interview for positions they have no interest in taking.

Not true for the reasons I stated.

 

[JamesTheScot]

Idiotic decision by BC. What coach will want to coach there now? I mean the guy was just interviewing for the job. The only scenario I could possibly see was that Jagodzinksi promised BC that he would be there longterm.

I have no doubt this is the case. BC went way out on a limb to give this guy his first HC job, and they paid him more than they've paid any other coachin their history. In return Jags promised DiFilippo he'd stick around for at least three years and now he's reneged on that promise.

Doesn't matter who is right or wrong. It's still a stupid decision by DeFillipo especially to go public with it. If I'm a good coach, why would I put myself in a situation working for a guy like that?

A guy like what? One who expects you to keep a promise?

I'd prefer to work for someone who realizes that I have to at least go to an interview for what is considered to be a much, much better job. You're freakin' Boston College. You have a nice program. But, you can't expect a HC worth having at your program would be someone who would turn down an interview with the NFL.I would guess he made such a promise under the assumption he wasn't going to get a shot at the NFL within a year.

Oh, so now mistaken assumptions are an excuse for performance of a contract? Maybe he should have thought about that, or included in his K the right to interview, instead of signing the K he signed.I guess he's from the school of "I promise to do this until I decide I don't want to do this."

Who would ever sign a contract to take out a loan you have to repay?

 

[dgreen]

Idiotic decision by BC. What coach will want to coach there now? I mean the guy was just interviewing for the job. The only scenario I could possibly see was that Jagodzinksi promised BC that he would be there longterm.

I have no doubt this is the case. BC went way out on a limb to give this guy his first HC job, and they paid him more than they've paid any other coachin their history. In return Jags promised DiFilippo he'd stick around for at least three years and now he's reneged on that promise.

Doesn't matter who is right or wrong. It's still a stupid decision by DeFillipo especially to go public with it. If I'm a good coach, why would I put myself in a situation working for a guy like that?

A guy like what? One who expects you to keep a promise?

I'd prefer to work for someone who realizes that I have to at least go to an interview for what is considered to be a much, much better job. You're freakin' Boston College. You have a nice program. But, you can't expect a HC worth having at your program would be someone who would turn down an interview with the NFL.I would guess he made such a promise under the assumption he wasn't going to get a shot at the NFL within a year.

Oh, so now mistaken assumptions are an excuse for performance of a contract? Maybe he should have thought about that, or included in his K the right to interview, instead of signing the K he signed.I guess he's from the school of "I promise to do this until I decide I don't want to do this."

Who would ever sign a contract to take out a loan you have to repay?

Again, there are two sides to this. Even if you think he should turn down the interview and keep his promise, that doesn't necessarily mean the school should prevent him from interviewing. I'd hope the school realizes his previous promise probably didn't assume a shot at the NFL this quickly and would let him interview. BC is not a destination program. It's a quality job, but there are still many more jobs higher than it. If I'm running the program, I would NEVER expect my coach to turn down an interview for the NFL.

 

[Tau837]

Idiotic decision by BC. What coach will want to coach there now? I mean the guy was just interviewing for the job. The only scenario I could possibly see was that Jagodzinksi promised BC that he would be there longterm.

I have no doubt this is the case. BC went way out on a limb to give this guy his first HC job, and they paid him more than they've paid any other coachin their history. In return Jags promised DiFilippo he'd stick around for at least three years and now he's reneged on that promise.

didnt bc do pretty well while he was there? have to add that to what they received in return.

He did well, going 11-3 and 9-5 in his first two seasons. But consider that he inherited a very successful program when Tom O'Brien left, and coached two years with essentially O'Brien's recruits, including Matt Ryan as a senior in his first year. This year, they lost to Vanderbilt in their bowl game, which broke BC's streak of 8 straight bowl wins (in the previous 8 years).He may have turned out fine, but personally I was expecting BC to fall off as O'Brien's recruits aged out. O'Brien may not be particularly well known nationally, but he is an excellent coach and recruiter.

 

[JamesTheScot]

Idiotic decision by BC. What coach will want to coach there now? I mean the guy was just interviewing for the job. The only scenario I could possibly see was that Jagodzinksi promised BC that he would be there longterm.

I have no doubt this is the case. BC went way out on a limb to give this guy his first HC job, and they paid him more than they've paid any other coachin their history. In return Jags promised DiFilippo he'd stick around for at least three years and now he's reneged on that promise.

Is interviewing all it takes to "renege on that promise", or would it take actually accepting a job? Some people interview to gain experience or networking exposure with longer term interests in mind. It's not like Jagodzinksi was any sort of front-runner for the Jets job, right?This seems like an overreaction by BC here.

I don't think the bolded part is true. You might interview for a job you don't think you'll get and you might interview for a job that won't result in dissapointment if you don't get it. You might even interview for a job that you aren't sure you want...because the interview will probably tell you what you need to know to make that decision. In each of those situations, you'll consider the experience or networking contacts a nice consolation prize and so you go through with it. But you rarely interview for a job you know ahead of time you will not accept if offered. Do you really think this is what's going on here? I mean, if he does go through with the interview, that kinda shoots that theory in the foot doesn't it? If he goes through with it, he isn't doing it for experience...he's wanting out of BC and into the NFL.

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

Idiotic decision by BC. What coach will want to coach there now? I mean the guy was just interviewing for the job. The only scenario I could possibly see was that Jagodzinksi promised BC that he would be there longterm.

I have no doubt this is the case. BC went way out on a limb to give this guy his first HC job, and they paid him more than they've paid any other coachin their history. In return Jags promised DiFilippo he'd stick around for at least three years and now he's reneged on that promise.

Doesn't matter who is right or wrong. It's still a stupid decision by DeFillipo especially to go public with it. If I'm a good coach, why would I put myself in a situation working for a guy like that?

A guy like what? One who expects you to keep a promise? If a prospective coach doesn't want to work for "a guy like that" then I don't want him coaching my team.btw - I freaking love Jags and this is all horrible news as a BC fan, but with the information I have now I have to side with Gene D on this one.

A guy that is going to go apenuts on someone when they interview for a promotion. I understand the agreement made between the two and all. I understand the A.D. being pissed off. But the A.D. is going to cut off his nose to spite his face. No real coach is going to want to work for a guy that operates that way. Like I said before, it doesn't matter who is right or wrong.

 

[Mr Capicollo]

Idiotic decision by BC. What coach will want to coach there now? I mean the guy was just interviewing for the job. The only scenario I could possibly see was that Jagodzinksi promised BC that he would be there longterm.

I have no doubt this is the case. BC went way out on a limb to give this guy his first HC job, and they paid him more than they've paid any other coachin their history. In return Jags promised DiFilippo he'd stick around for at least three years and now he's reneged on that promise.

Is interviewing all it takes to "renege on that promise", or would it take actually accepting a job? Some people interview to gain experience or networking exposure with longer term interests in mind. It's not like Jagodzinksi was any sort of front-runner for the Jets job, right?This seems like an overreaction by BC here.

I don't think the bolded part is true. You might interview for a job you don't think you'll get and you might interview for a job that won't result in dissapointment if you don't get it. You might even interview for a job that you aren't sure you want...because the interview will probably tell you what you need to know to make that decision. In each of those situations, you'll consider the experience or networking contacts a nice consolation prize and so you go through with it. But you rarely interview for a job you know ahead of time you will not accept if offered. Do you really think this is what's going on here? I mean, if he does go through with the interview, that kinda shoots that theory in the foot doesn't it? If he goes through with it, he isn't doing it for experience...he's wanting out of BC and into the NFL.

We'll never be able to crawl inside peoples' heads and know for sure their motives, and everyones' motives are going to vary for each interview/job opportunity that presents itseflf, so it's silly to have such a pat stance on why people do or do not interview. I stand by what I said.

 

[Tau837]

BC was looking for stability

I can't agree with this. If they wanted stability, they would not have basically pushed out O'Brien, who had built an extremely successful and stable program, both on and off the field, at BC. IIRC DiFilippo was a big factor in that situation, as was O'Brien's salary, which was 10th highest in the ACC despite the success of the program.

 

[Kleck]

We don't know the details. I'm sure we'll here more. But if he doesn't get the Jets job, then I would personally show up at the airport to welcome him back as Green Bay's offensive coordinator. I love the guy.

me too

Same here. WI guy born and raised. Played ball at UW-Whitewater. He definitely has a strong following from WI sports fans.Jags is a smart guy, knows the game and has had good success. I don't think it will take long for him to find a job. I'm sure there are a few more NFL teams that are interested in his coaching services.

 

[Why Me?]

BC was looking for stability

I can't agree with this. If they wanted stability, they would not have basically pushed out O'Brien, who had built an extremely successful and stable program, both on and off the field, at BC. IIRC DiFilippo was a big factor in that situation, as was O'Brien's salary, which was 10th highest in the ACC despite the success of the program.

Coaches typically don't stay forever. After 10 years it was time for O'Brien to leave, from both his and BC's standpoint. Trust me when I say the vast majority of BC fans were not sad to see him go. He had a bunch of solid years but BC was never going to take another step forward with O'Brien as HC, and more importantly Dana Bible as OC. There is no way BC plays in the ACC Champ games the past two years with O'Brien and his staff still in place. BC lost at least on "what the ####?" game a year due to O'Brien's ultra conservative, "play not to lose" in-game coacing style. Jags and Logan were a breath of fresh air, the anti-Obrien/Bible. When I say BC wanted stability I mean they were looking for a guy who, like O'Brien, wasn't just using BC as a stopping point before taking another step up. O'Brien and BC parting ways after a decade in no way suggest BC wasn't looking for stability with his replacement.

 

[Tom Servo]

Is interviewing all it takes to "renege on that promise", or would it take actually accepting a job? Some people interview to gain experience or networking exposure with longer term interests in mind. It's not like Jagodzinksi was any sort of front-runner for the Jets job, right?

This seems like an overreaction by BC here.

I don't think the bolded part is true. You might interview for a job you don't think you'll get and you might interview for a job that won't result in dissapointment if you don't get it. You might even interview for a job that you aren't sure you want...because the interview will probably tell you what you need to know to make that decision. In each of those situations, you'll consider the experience or networking contacts a nice consolation prize and so you go through with it. But you rarely interview for a job you know ahead of time you will not accept if offered. Do you really think this is what's going on here? I mean, if he does go through with the interview, that kinda shoots that theory in the foot doesn't it? If he goes through with it, he isn't doing it for experience...he's wanting out of BC and into the NFL.

We'll never be able to crawl inside peoples' heads and know for sure their motives, and everyones' motives are going to vary for each interview/job opportunity that presents itseflf, so it's silly to have such a pat stance on why people do or do not interview. I stand by what I said.

Hey, I've interviewed for jobs I didn't think I'd get just so I could get my name out. I'm pretty sure I'm not the originator of the concept. If I can think of doing that, it's not beyond imagination that someone else could do that...especially in the coaching world, where being "known" is a commodity that helps you get jobs.

 

[greenline]

Idiotic decision by BC. What coach will want to coach there now? I mean the guy was just interviewing for the job. The only scenario I could possibly see was that Jagodzinksi promised BC that he would be there longterm.

I have no doubt this is the case. BC went way out on a limb to give this guy his first HC job, and they paid him more than they've paid any other coachin their history. In return Jags promised DiFilippo he'd stick around for at least three years and now he's reneged on that promise.

didnt bc do pretty well because of Matt Ryan?

edited for context.

 

[Tau837]

BC was looking for stability

I can't agree with this. If they wanted stability, they would not have basically pushed out O'Brien, who had built an extremely successful and stable program, both on and off the field, at BC. IIRC DiFilippo was a big factor in that situation, as was O'Brien's salary, which was 10th highest in the ACC despite the success of the program.

Coaches typically don't stay forever. After 10 years it was time for O'Brien to leave, from both his and BC's standpoint. Trust me when I say the vast majority of BC fans were not sad to see him go. He had a bunch of solid years but BC was never going to take another step forward with O'Brien as HC, and more importantly Dana Bible as OC. There is no way BC plays in the ACC Champ games the past two years with O'Brien and his staff still in place. BC lost at least on "what the ####?" game a year due to O'Brien's ultra conservative, "play not to lose" in-game coacing style. Jags and Logan were a breath of fresh air, the anti-Obrien/Bible.When I say BC wanted stability I mean they were looking for a guy who, like O'Brien, wasn't just using BC as a stopping point before taking another step up. O'Brien and BC parting ways after a decade in no way suggest BC wasn't looking for stability with his replacement.

This is a classic "be careful what you wish for" scenario. I doubt BC will ever again enjoy the type of long term success that O'Brien built for its program. The true test will be to see how they perform in years 4+ after O'Brien, assuming it won't be until year 4 before most of the players on the field are not O'Brien recruits.ETA: And let me just say that we are extremely happy to have him at N.C. State. I hope he stays at State until he retires, hopefully at least 10 years from now.

 

[Boston]

Idiotic decision by BC. What coach will want to coach there now? I mean the guy was just interviewing for the job. The only scenario I could possibly see was that Jagodzinksi promised BC that he would be there longterm.

I have no doubt this is the case. BC went way out on a limb to give this guy his first HC job, and they paid him more than they've paid any other coachin their history. In return Jags promised DiFilippo he'd stick around for at least three years and now he's reneged on that promise.

Doesn't matter who is right or wrong. It's still a stupid decision by DeFillipo especially to go public with it. If I'm a good coach, why would I put myself in a situation working for a guy like that?

A guy like what? One who expects you to keep a promise?

I'd prefer to work for someone who realizes that I have to at least go to an interview for what is considered to be a much, much better job. You're freakin' Boston College. You have a nice program. But, you can't expect a HC worth having at your program would be someone who would turn down an interview with the NFL.I would guess he made such a promise under the assumption he wasn't going to get a shot at the NFL within a year.

I see your points, but just two years ago he was freakin' Jeff Jagodzinski, a no-name candidate, carreer assistanst coach with zero head coaching experience at any level. BC was a GREAT job for a guy like him to get. BC was looking for stability and decided to give this guy a shot and pay him very well. In return they asked for assurances that he'd be here a few years - and he gave it to them. Now he's jumping at the first chance to move on. Lots of folks saying that this is good PR for BC, to have a coach considered for an NFL job. The timing is awful. It's nearing signing day and the perception that he has one foot out the door is not at all helpful when he's sitting in a kid's living room trying to sell BC. What would be helpful is if when the Jets expressed interest, he publicly said thanks but no thanks while reiterating his committment to Boston College.

I agree with this.There's obviously more to this story than we currently know but the word locally (by no means definitive) is that Jags had assured BC he would stay committed to the school for longer than two years. If that is the case I applaud DeFillipo for his stance as the trust factor with Jags would be gone once he agreed to the Jet interview. Once that's gone a very stable and underrated program has a chance to get into a bad situation as coach/AD feuds are never healthy. DeFillipo has done a great job at BC as the Hockey team has won multiple national titles and both the football and hoop team have been very successful (to the surprise of many) since they joined the ACC. I don't see him making this move on a lark.

As far as Jags goes I thought he was a solid coach. BC is an odd school in that it's a pretty big time program on the field (a legit top 25 program) that has produced more than it's share of quality pros. Yet, it also plays second fiddle in a big way to the pro teams and is a far cry from the Ohio States and Floridas as far as the college pomp and circumstance (and getting the big time recruits) is concerned. Due to this it is seen as a steppingstone school and my guess is that this issue was brought up with Jags and he assured them that while he won't be coach for life he wasn't using them for a better job in the short term...which appears to be the case.

The Jets situation is an odd one. I just can't picture them looking at him seriously as their HC. IMO he would get eaten alive in that capacity. He reminds me a little of Pete Carroll in that he's a good fit as a college coach or a NFL assistant but his personality won't get it done as the main man. One theory being thrown around here is that since he has good relationship with Favre and Woody Johnson seems to have a crush on Favre he's going to be the OC and this will help sway Favre into staying for another year. If that is what's going on here I think the Jets are making a monumental blunder.

 

[Mr Capicollo]

The Jets situation is an odd one. I just can't picture them looking at him seriously as their HC. IMO he would get eaten alive in that capacity. He reminds me a little of Pete Carroll in that he's a good fit as a college coach or a NFL assistant but his personality won't get it done as the main man. One theory being thrown around here is that since he has good relationship with Favre and Woody Johnson seems to have a crush on Favre he's going to be the OC and this will help sway Favre into staying for another year. If that is what's going on here I think the Jets are making a monumental blunder.

Now THAT's an interesting take on this.

 

[Boston]

The Jets situation is an odd one. I just can't picture them looking at him seriously as their HC. IMO he would get eaten alive in that capacity. He reminds me a little of Pete Carroll in that he's a good fit as a college coach or a NFL assistant but his personality won't get it done as the main man. One theory being thrown around here is that since he has good relationship with Favre and Woody Johnson seems to have a crush on Favre he's going to be the OC and this will help sway Favre into staying for another year. If that is what's going on here I think the Jets are making a monumental blunder.

Now THAT's an interesting take on this.

Please note that that's a rumor I'm hearing and that's all it is at this point. Yet, since I don't see Jags being ready to take over a job as big as the Jets (unless they were impressed with a bowl loss to Vandy) it does seem to make sense in the conspiracy world of thought. The other spect of this (again rumor) is that Jags is an NFL guy and would like to get back to the pros.

 

[trader jake]

Jags never met a job he didn't want to leave for a better one. Good job by BC - in the college game his non-sense can destroy a program.

In his short time in Green Bay with the Packers he managed to piss off many in the media with his constant BS (we ain't New York...that's VERY difficult to accomplish here). He's a Bobby Petrino type who I wouldn't want near my team because there would never be any loyalty and he'd probably undermine those above him along the way.

BTW - Who benefited from this story being broken early on? In other words...who leaked it to the media? My guess: Jags himself because that's the type of guy he is.

 

[Mr Capicollo]

Jags never met a job he didn't want to leave for a better one. Good job by BC - in the college game his non-sense can destroy a program.In his short time in Green Bay with the Packers he managed to piss off many in the media with his constant BS (we ain't New York...that's VERY difficult to accomplish here). He's a Bobby Petrino type who I wouldn't want near my team because there would never be any loyalty and he'd probably undermine those above him along the way.BTW - Who benefited from this story being broken early on? In other words...who leaked it to the media? My guess: Jags himself because that's the type of guy he is.

You sound like a woman scorned.

 

[Jason Wood]

I really can't judge whether BC was smart for doing this or not; but I can assume that they didn't give this ultimatum lightly. Certainly in the world we live in, it's not at all unusual for college coaches to be approached about other jobs. What we don't know [or at least I haven't seen] is whether Jagodzinski made certain overtures that went above and beyond the normal college coaching hire; overtures that would appear to be violated by his decision to interview. I'm guessing that the BC higher ups have reasonably high confidence in Logan; his named replacement, or else they wouldn't have been so Draconian about this whole thing.

 

[CletiusMaximus]

Why didn't BC just deny him permission to speak with other teams? Seems like that would prevent the problem altogether. He can't interview and they don't have to fire him.

Jets never asked permission, and Jags didn't ask either. This was all done secretly which I'm sure pissed Gene D off even more.

I don't think anything was done secretly, except perhaps setting up an interview, and certainly nothing was improper about the way this was handled. He has not even interviewed yet - this was all prospective. He was reportedly told on Saturday that - if he interviewed - he would be fired. I assume that he approached the BC athletic dept. people over the weekend to inform them of his intentions in advance of the interview and this was their reaction (which is an entirely normal reaction in my opinion). It is now being reported that he was fired because the "ill-will" that was created this weekend and this morning could not be overcome, whether or not he proceeds with the interview.I don't think the Jets have any obligation to seek BC's permission to interview the BC head coach, but I also think BC is perfectly justified in firing him upon learing of the interview, or planned interview.

 

[trader jake]

Jags never met a job he didn't want to leave for a better one. Good job by BC - in the college game his non-sense can destroy a program.In his short time in Green Bay with the Packers he managed to piss off many in the media with his constant BS (we ain't New York...that's VERY difficult to accomplish here). He's a Bobby Petrino type who I wouldn't want near my team because there would never be any loyalty and he'd probably undermine those above him along the way.BTW - Who benefited from this story being broken early on? In other words...who leaked it to the media? My guess: Jags himself because that's the type of guy he is.

You sound like a woman scorned.

How so?Packer fans are happy for any assistant coach who has a crack at a head coaching job. We hope current assistant Winston Moss gets a head coaching job in the NFL and a chance to prove himself and we were happy for Jags when he got the gig at BC. Any quality organization grooms their assistants to someday advance their careers and will do everything in their power to make that happen.Some people will just never return that loyalty and in many people's opinions in Wisconsin Jags is that type of coach. Keep in mind that he's actually from Wisconsin so you won't read much/any criticism of him in local papers because of that. Again, Wisconsin takes care of their own...but in Jags case he doesn't deserve loyalty because he will never reciprocate it. BC found this out the hard way and did well to rid themselves of a problem before it got worse. He wasn't sticking around either way and leaked to story to cover his own skin IMO.

 

[Why Me?]

btw, the firing is still speculative. I have not seen any official word from BC or Jags, nor a story on any of the local or national websites that says anything but "BC has threatened to fire..."

It's inevitible but not yet official.

 

[Liquid Tension]

Idiotic decision by BC. What coach will want to coach there now? I mean the guy was just interviewing for the job. The only scenario I could possibly see was that Jagodzinksi promised BC that he would be there longterm.

I have no doubt this is the case. BC went way out on a limb to give this guy his first HC job, and they paid him more than they've paid any other coachin their history. In return Jags promised DiFilippo he'd stick around for at least three years and now he's reneged on that promise.

Doesn't matter who is right or wrong. It's still a stupid decision by DeFillipo especially to go public with it. If I'm a good coach, why would I put myself in a situation working for a guy like that?

A guy like what? One who expects you to keep a promise?

I'd prefer to work for someone who realizes that I have to at least go to an interview for what is considered to be a much, much better job. You're freakin' Boston College. You have a nice program. But, you can't expect a HC worth having at your program would be someone who would turn down an interview with the NFL.I would guess he made such a promise under the assumption he wasn't going to get a shot at the NFL within a year.

Oh, so now mistaken assumptions are an excuse for performance of a contract? Maybe he should have thought about that, or included in his K the right to interview, instead of signing the K he signed.I guess he's from the school of "I promise to do this until I decide I don't want to do this."

Who would ever sign a contract to take out a loan you have to repay?

Again, there are two sides to this. Even if you think he should turn down the interview and keep his promise, that doesn't necessarily mean the school should prevent him from interviewing. I'd hope the school realizes his previous promise probably didn't assume a shot at the NFL this quickly and would let him interview. BC is not a destination program. It's a quality job, but there are still many more jobs higher than it. If I'm running the program, I would NEVER expect my coach to turn down an interview for the NFL.

Then don't expect a 3 year deal...you should get what you give. A commitment should be from both parties.

 

[CletiusMaximus]

Idiotic decision by BC. What coach will want to coach there now? I mean the guy was just interviewing for the job. The only scenario I could possibly see was that Jagodzinksi promised BC that he would be there longterm.

I have no doubt this is the case. BC went way out on a limb to give this guy his first HC job, and they paid him more than they've paid any other coachin their history. In return Jags promised DiFilippo he'd stick around for at least three years and now he's reneged on that promise.

Doesn't matter who is right or wrong. It's still a stupid decision by DeFillipo especially to go public with it. If I'm a good coach, why would I put myself in a situation working for a guy like that?

A guy like what? One who expects you to keep a promise?

I'd prefer to work for someone who realizes that I have to at least go to an interview for what is considered to be a much, much better job. You're freakin' Boston College. You have a nice program. But, you can't expect a HC worth having at your program would be someone who would turn down an interview with the NFL.I would guess he made such a promise under the assumption he wasn't going to get a shot at the NFL within a year.

I see your points, but just two years ago he was freakin' Jeff Jagodzinski, a no-name candidate, carreer assistanst coach with zero head coaching experience at any level. BC was a GREAT job for a guy like him to get. BC was looking for stability and decided to give this guy a shot and pay him very well. In return they asked for assurances that he'd be here a few years - and he gave it to them. Now he's jumping at the first chance to move on. Lots of folks saying that this is good PR for BC, to have a coach considered for an NFL job. The timing is awful. It's nearing signing day and the perception that he has one foot out the door is not at all helpful when he's sitting in a kid's living room trying to sell BC. What would be helpful is if when the Jets expressed interest, he publicly said thanks but no thanks while reiterating his committment to Boston College.

I agree with this.There's obviously more to this story than we currently know but the word locally (by no means definitive) is that Jags had assured BC he would stay committed to the school for longer than two years. If that is the case I applaud DeFillipo for his stance as the trust factor with Jags would be gone once he agreed to the Jet interview. Once that's gone a very stable and underrated program has a chance to get into a bad situation as coach/AD feuds are never healthy. DeFillipo has done a great job at BC as the Hockey team has won multiple national titles and both the football and hoop team have been very successful (to the surprise of many) since they joined the ACC. I don't see him making this move on a lark.

As far as Jags goes I thought he was a solid coach. BC is an odd school in that it's a pretty big time program on the field (a legit top 25 program) that has produced more than it's share of quality pros. Yet, it also plays second fiddle in a big way to the pro teams and is a far cry from the Ohio States and Floridas as far as the college pomp and circumstance (and getting the big time recruits) is concerned. Due to this it is seen as a steppingstone school and my guess is that this issue was brought up with Jags and he assured them that while he won't be coach for life he wasn't using them for a better job in the short term...which appears to be the case.

The Jets situation is an odd one. I just can't picture them looking at him seriously as their HC. IMO he would get eaten alive in that capacity. He reminds me a little of Pete Carroll in that he's a good fit as a college coach or a NFL assistant but his personality won't get it done as the main man. One theory being thrown around here is that since he has good relationship with Favre and Woody Johnson seems to have a crush on Favre he's going to be the OC and this will help sway Favre into staying for another year. If that is what's going on here I think the Jets are making a monumental blunder.

The related rumor I read this morning:

The speculation is that Jagodzinski is connected to New York because of Brett Favre. Favre, you may recall, once tried to get the Packers to interview his friend Steve Mariucci as head coach. Now, the speculation is that Favre is doing the same with Jagodzinski in New York.

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

Jags never met a job he didn't want to leave for a better one. Good job by BC - in the college game his non-sense can destroy a program.In his short time in Green Bay with the Packers he managed to piss off many in the media with his constant BS (we ain't New York...that's VERY difficult to accomplish here). He's a Bobby Petrino type who I wouldn't want near my team because there would never be any loyalty and he'd probably undermine those above him along the way.BTW - Who benefited from this story being broken early on? In other words...who leaked it to the media? My guess: Jags himself because that's the type of guy he is.

You sound like a woman scorned.

How so?Packer fans are happy for any assistant coach who has a crack at a head coaching job. We hope current assistant Winston Moss gets a head coaching job in the NFL and a chance to prove himself and we were happy for Jags when he got the gig at BC. Any quality organization grooms their assistants to someday advance their careers and will do everything in their power to make that happen.Some people will just never return that loyalty and in many people's opinions in Wisconsin Jags is that type of coach. Keep in mind that he's actually from Wisconsin so you won't read much/any criticism of him in local papers because of that. Again, Wisconsin takes care of their own...but in Jags case he doesn't deserve loyalty because he will never reciprocate it. BC found this out the hard way and did well to rid themselves of a problem before it got worse. He wasn't sticking around either way and leaked to story to cover his own skin IMO.

You should take a look at most successful NFL coaches and see how often they jumped around as position coaches or even coordinators. Often times, it's not viewed as a positive to stay at the same job for too long. You need to get out and work under different head coaches, different coordinators, and in different environments to learn as much as you can as you move up the coaching ladder. Jags had three NFL jobs from 1999 - 2006. Is that really a lot?Do you like McCarthy? Like Jags, he spent his early coaching years jumping every season or two before settling down in the NFL with Chiefs for five seasons, GB for one season, five years in NO, then he went to SF for 1 season before leaving for greener pastures in GB as the head man. Why is someone disloyal because they change jobs?

 

[Mr Capicollo]

Jags never met a job he didn't want to leave for a better one. Good job by BC - in the college game his non-sense can destroy a program.In his short time in Green Bay with the Packers he managed to piss off many in the media with his constant BS (we ain't New York...that's VERY difficult to accomplish here). He's a Bobby Petrino type who I wouldn't want near my team because there would never be any loyalty and he'd probably undermine those above him along the way.BTW - Who benefited from this story being broken early on? In other words...who leaked it to the media? My guess: Jags himself because that's the type of guy he is.

You sound like a woman scorned.

How so?Packer fans are happy for any assistant coach who has a crack at a head coaching job. We hope current assistant Winston Moss gets a head coaching job in the NFL and a chance to prove himself and we were happy for Jags when he got the gig at BC. Any quality organization grooms their assistants to someday advance their careers and will do everything in their power to make that happen.Some people will just never return that loyalty and in many people's opinions in Wisconsin Jags is that type of coach. Keep in mind that he's actually from Wisconsin so you won't read much/any criticism of him in local papers because of that. Again, Wisconsin takes care of their own...but in Jags case he doesn't deserve loyalty because he will never reciprocate it. BC found this out the hard way and did well to rid themselves of a problem before it got worse. He wasn't sticking around either way and leaked to story to cover his own skin IMO.

You should take a look at most successful NFL coaches and see how often they jumped around as position coaches or even coordinators. Often times, it's not viewed as a positive to stay at the same job for too long. You need to get out and work under different head coaches, different coordinators, and in different environments to learn as much as you can as you move up the coaching ladder. Jags had three NFL jobs from 1999 - 2006. Is that really a lot?Do you like McCarthy? Like Jags, he spent his early coaching years jumping every season or two before settling down in the NFL with Chiefs for five seasons, GB for one season, five years in NO, then he went to SF for 1 season before leaving for greener pastures in GB as the head man. Why is someone disloyal because they change jobs?