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Beatdown at McDonalds...Brooklyn style (1 Viewer)

Stepping in is a major decision. You have to be prepared for the mob to turn on you and the consequences. You can't just start cold cocking 15 year old girls which would probably worse for you anyway. So you got to take some of the beating for the victim. For some it is a easy decision for others it is not.
You mean 2-3 big guys like you and me can't shield a defenseless girl from 4 other girls? What part of that mob is going to turn against you? The one's that are too chicken #### to do anything but watch and cheer?
Also, how do you know I am a "big" guy?
Everyone knows your rooster is visible from 2-3 states away

 
There were always after-school fights when I was growing up. The difference now is everyone has a camera and uploads the video to the internet. The girl agreed to meet at the predetermined spot for fisticuffs and she ended up getting ambushed by he opponents friends. Race has nothing to do with this. Anyone who says it does, that's about them not the video.

 
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There is def more to this backstory that we dont know.

apparently, the 'victim' knew this fight was going down and threw the first punch. Then she held on to the original girl and got some pretty damn good shots in for someone who was getting punched from 5 different people.

In the end, this turned out very very bad for her, but the whole 'don't say anything' reaks of some gang type issue where either retribution or where police involvement would be bad for the gang.

 
Reading the article, every paragraph had something in it more shocking than the last.

The girl won't press charges, the mom won't work with the police, someone thinks McDonald's was responsible...
Is this where we all pretend we aren't thinking what we are all actually thinking?

Sorry, this is a poor black trash culture thing. It is exacerbated by poverty, and poor white trash likely does similar ####, but not cooperating with police, cheering it on, and trying to turn it into a paycheck? Straight outta the poor black trash playbook.

This does not represent the black race any more then Northern Florida represents the white race. But it has all the calling cards of poor black trash.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhjdsbAImYo

 
Kids are stupid and inexperienced, they lack perspective due to age. The norms some of them are buying into only exacerbate that stupidity. Additionally, they have been failed by the adults in their lives when they have not been taught appropriate coping mechanisms.

Time for those of us who are not raising their young to start doing so.

 
Horrific. I couldn't even make it to the end where she apparently got stomped. Have to give her props though, how she stayed on her feet for so long was impressive.

 
Kids are stupid and inexperienced, they lack perspective due to age. The norms some of them are buying into only exacerbate that stupidity. Additionally, they have been failed by the adults in their lives when they have not been taught appropriate coping mechanisms.

Time for those of us who are not raising their young to start doing so.
It's like Bill Cosby says...oh wait never mind

 
Stepping in is a major decision. You have to be prepared for the mob to turn on you and the consequences. You can't just start cold cocking 15 year old girls which would probably worse for you anyway. So you got to take some of the beating for the victim. For some it is a easy decision for others it is not.
You mean 2-3 big guys like you and me can't shield a defenseless girl from 4 other girls? What part of that mob is going to turn against you? The one's that are too chicken #### to do anything but watch and cheer?
I never said 2-3 guys couldn't. It is a mob, you can knifed in the back by one of the girls boyfriends, brother, friends, who the hell knows. A trained policeman would have problems handling that situation without back up.
I agree with you on this one. You step into something like that and it wouldn't surprise me at all if you ended up getting jumped (and not just by the people directly fighting). Just considerate it potential collateral damage.

I actually didn't think too much of what happened until the hoodie girl was down on the ground. Hoodie girl had a hand full of the one girl's hair and I thought the beatdown would continue until she let go (and stopped punching). Hitting someone already down like that would be a cause for me to get directly involved if I was there. Until then, I would likely just be vocal about stopping it.

 
Reading the article, every paragraph had something in it more shocking than the last.

The girl won't press charges, the mom won't work with the police, someone thinks McDonald's was responsible...
Is this where we all pretend we aren't thinking what we are all actually thinking?

Sorry, this is a poor black trash culture thing. It is exacerbated by poverty, and poor white trash likely does similar ####, but not cooperating with police, cheering it on, and trying to turn it into a paycheck? Straight outta the poor black trash playbook.

This does not represent the black race any more then Northern Florida represents the white race. But it has all the calling cards of poor black trash.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhjdsbAImYo

I agree with Clifford 100%, very well worded.

This video only serves to prove Cliffords point. People are actively stepping in once the guy gets jumped.
 
Its like the poor kid from the wire. Dude says one little thing and he never lives it down.
You bringing up the wire is interesting. It's funny how our minds work. People watch the Wire and it's lauded for being "true to life", for it's realism, etc. But then we all (myself included) tip-toe around stories like this because we don't want to offend.

 
The aptly named "young savages" are animals

white , black,brown , purple green or whatever they are ####### animals

 
Stepping in is a major decision. You have to be prepared for the mob to turn on you and the consequences. You can't just start cold cocking 15 year old girls which would probably worse for you anyway. So you got to take some of the beating for the victim. For some it is a easy decision for others it is not.
You mean 2-3 big guys like you and me can't shield a defenseless girl from 4 other girls? What part of that mob is going to turn against you? The one's that are too chicken #### to do anything but watch and cheer?
Also, how do you know I am a "big" guy?
Everyone knows your rooster is visible from 2-3 states away
:lmao:

 
Reading the article, every paragraph had something in it more shocking than the last.

The girl won't press charges, the mom won't work with the police, someone thinks McDonald's was responsible...
Is this where we all pretend we aren't thinking what we are all actually thinking?

Sorry, this is a poor black trash culture thing. It is exacerbated by poverty, and poor white trash likely does similar ####, but not cooperating with police, cheering it on, and trying to turn it into a paycheck? Straight outta the poor black trash playbook.

This does not represent the black race any more then Northern Florida represents the white race. But it has all the calling cards of poor black trash.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhjdsbAImYo
I think we can all agree that regardless of color, these poor trash folk all need to learn to hold their phones sideways to get the video in #######ed landscape.

 
Reading the article, every paragraph had something in it more shocking than the last.

The girl won't press charges, the mom won't work with the police, someone thinks McDonald's was responsible...
Is this where we all pretend we aren't thinking what we are all actually thinking?Sorry, this is a poor black trash culture thing. It is exacerbated by poverty, and poor white trash likely does similar ####, but not cooperating with police, cheering it on, and trying to turn it into a paycheck? Straight outta the poor black trash playbook.

This does not represent the black race any more then Northern Florida represents the white race. But it has all the calling cards of poor black trash.
Exactly. And why did this guy filming have to be 3 seconds behind every knockout? Just terrible all around.
 
Sad all around.

That girl put up a good fight for being so outnumbered, though.
Totally agree. She could have taken any of them one-on-one, or maybe even one-on-two. There was just too many of them to give her a real shot.

 
There is def more to this backstory that we dont know.

apparently, the 'victim' knew this fight was going down and threw the first punch. Then she held on to the original girl and got some pretty damn good shots in for someone who was getting punched from 5 different people.

In the end, this turned out very very bad for her, but the whole 'don't say anything' reaks of some gang type issue where either retribution or where police involvement would be bad for the gang.
OK...so maybe the fight was justified. Maybe the 'victim' was really the aggressor...but at some point, you call it and walk away. My biggest issue here is that it was like 6-on-1. If that's not bad enough, brutal face kicks and head stomps came in way after the girl was clearly not a threat anymore...and worse still (and perhaps most of all) is that absolutely nobody did anything to stop it. It's just a break-down of society in some ways. Fighting is bad enougn, but for most of us who have been in fights before, you know that once a man is down and has tapped out, you let it go.

I get not wanting to be the 1st person in for fear of getting jumped too, but even after the older man in grey stepped in, the shirtless girl was still getting kicks. He just sort of turned around as if to casually stay, "Don't do that." Seriously? I feel like at that point, you need to get a little more active in protecting that girl. The fight is long over. It stopped being a fight after the girl went down and out. My take is that the victim could've probably won if it was 1-on-1, because she took a solid beating from 5-6 girls bigger than her for a good 30 seconds before she went down.

 
Stepping in is a major decision. You have to be prepared for the mob to turn on you and the consequences. You can't just start cold cocking 15 year old girls which would probably worse for you anyway. So you got to take some of the beating for the victim. For some it is a easy decision for others it is not.
You mean 2-3 big guys like you and me can't shield a defenseless girl from 4 other girls? What part of that mob is going to turn against you? The one's that are too chicken #### to do anything but watch and cheer?
Also, how do you know I am a "big" guy?
The size of your hands.

 
I live a 15min walk from here. A while back the nearby Buffalo Wild Wings had to quit offering a regular wing promotion due to the number of school kids who would go there and start stuff like this. The first step was increased police presence which wasn't effective. You may have read about a dude getting shot to death in a brooklyn subway stop a couple days ago. That stop is 1 stop away from this McDonalds, and is literally under a court building. It's unreal and really sad.

Edit - OOPS I'm wrong I had my McDonald's mixed up. This one is actually not close to where I thought it was.

 
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Reading the article, every paragraph had something in it more shocking than the last.

The girl won't press charges, the mom won't work with the police, someone thinks McDonald's was responsible...
This is what struck me as odd as well. Sounds like rival gangs or something? Yet another reason i am not a fan of brooklyn.

 
Reading the article, every paragraph had something in it more shocking than the last.

The girl won't press charges, the mom won't work with the police, someone thinks McDonald's was responsible...
Is this where we all pretend we aren't thinking what we are all actually thinking?

Sorry, this is a poor black trash culture thing. It is exacerbated by poverty, and poor white trash likely does similar ####, but not cooperating with police, cheering it on, and trying to turn it into a paycheck? Straight outta the poor black trash playbook.

This does not represent the black race any more then Northern Florida represents the white race. But it has all the calling cards of poor black trash.
:boxing: :hot:

 
No worries. She's Gucc

"“Everyone Like Im Famous Now,” the 15-year-old posted on her Facebook page a day after shocking video of her being brutalized at the Flatbush Ave. fast-food joint hit the Web."

“Im Gucc!” she wrote, which is street slang “good,” according to the Urban Dictionary.

“WHAT TWO BLACK EYES I HAVE THE NEWSPAPER IS A LIER &MY GRANDMA NEVER TALKED TO THESE PEOPLE,” the teen also posted.

 
No worries. She's Gucc

"Everyone Like Im Famous Now, the 15-year-old posted on her Facebook page a day after shocking video of her being brutalized at the Flatbush Ave. fast-food joint hit the Web."

Im Gucc! she wrote, which is street slang good, according to the Urban Dictionary.

WHAT TWO BLACK EYES I HAVE THE NEWSPAPER IS A LIER &MY GRANDMA NEVER TALKED TO THESE PEOPLE, the teen also posted.
I would like to believe the blow to the head addled her mind, but I suspect it goes beyond that.

 
http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/nyc-crime/brute-shown-stomping-victim-mcdonald-beating-arrested-article-1.2146819

Stomper arrested, victim (who BTW was seen attempting to throw punches at another girl) won't cooperate or file charges
i'm guessing you do not live in an urban environment? the issue of not cooperating with police could be caused by a variety of reasons, but most likely it is fear of retaliation. the reality is there are no funds for police protection, and most city police will admit this. they can not prevent the retaliation, and unfortunately the majority of the time family members or others will be harmed for this. they also know if they cooperate these girls aren't going away for ever. it is unfortunate it isn't as simple as doing the right thing, but you really need to understand the likely circumstance here

 
Shocking. Said no-one.
Your not-so-thinly veiled racism really is getting worse.
Overt racism more like it. He says "everyone who knows me knows I'm not racist" but the true colors come through on the Internet. Honestly I'd be fine if he just acknowledged it. At least I'd know he had a little integrity. :shrug:
He can't be racist....he jerked to Ebony porn once.
:lmao:

And as an aside, I always love when the lightest and darkest boards members engage each other - Dr D and GM are like the black and white cookie of the FFA

 
http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/nyc-crime/brute-shown-stomping-victim-mcdonald-beating-arrested-article-1.2146819

Stomper arrested, victim (who BTW was seen attempting to throw punches at another girl) won't cooperate or file charges
i'm guessing you do not live in an urban environment? the issue of not cooperating with police could be caused by a variety of reasons, but most likely it is fear of retaliation. the reality is there are no funds for police protection, and most city police will admit this. they can not prevent the retaliation, and unfortunately the majority of the time family members or others will be harmed for this. they also know if they cooperate these girls aren't going away for ever. it is unfortunate it isn't as simple as doing the right thing, but you really need to understand the likely circumstance here
I think he was just stating a fact.

 
Was more a statement of Society in general and the type of people that frequent McDonalds establishments, but you're welcome to make it about race if you'd like. That's on you though. :shrug:
I don't think these thuggee girls represent your average patrons that frequent McDonalds.

 
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