Been a good run...I'm done with the FF (1 Viewer)

[comfortably numb]

I quit this thread!

 

[tone1oc]

I quit this thread!

After 15 posts and 6 likes, I think it's time to no longer post in this thread. It's been a great run, looking back on it, I never could have done it without the support of you all. One day there will be another thread with other posters, and I'm fine with that. But for me, the world is stopping, if only for a minute.

I may post some more, but this is it.

 

[joey]

This is an amazing thread. I relate to so much of the sentiments.

I really struggled with the exact issues that Sabertooth and other describe. I almost quit as well, but thought about it some and decided it is ridiculous to throw away an otherwise fun hobby, because I have allowed it to get out of control.

Instead of quitting, I looked at my biggest problems and devised simple solutions. Here is my list of Golden Five FF Rules – maybe it helps someone.

1. Do NOT track live scores and stats ever – not even once until Monday (I figure MNF can be sacrificed). Check the inactives for the 4 pm games, if you have to, but no more. I also USE DUCT TAPE TO COVER THE STATS TRACKER ON THE BOTTOM OF THE BROADCASTS

2. NEVER, never, never check your opponents lineups – you should have no idea who you are playing against in each league

3. Play in at least five leagues (more if you have good memory) – the point is NOT to be able to know from memory which player you are starting where

These 3 points are very key for me.

I strongly agree with these 3 as well. When I got up to 5 leagues a couple of years ago, friends and wife were like "wow? Really?" And I kind of agreed with them at first and thought I might have gone too far. But the opposite was true. It was the right amount of leagues cuz it was too many to exactly remember every starter and bench player on every team I owned. And definitely impossible to know who the heck I was up against in every league. I'd see friends in the hallways on Monday and they'd say "nice win this weekend" and I'd say "wait. Did we play each other this weekend? Sorry I can't keep track." It's a HEATHLY level of "can't keep track" that allows me to once again enjoy the football games for the fun games that they are, as well as still indulge in my love of playing this silly fantasy football game, trying to out-draft and out-waiver-wire my friends/opponents. Winning a little cash is a nice bonus as well, but not essential to me.

So, yes, getting to 4 or 5 leagues was the key for me to balance managing my teams well with not being able to obsess over a single league or two.

In addition, having 5 leagues always meant that I won in at least ONE league each week. Something to feel good about on Monday night. When I was in "just" 2 or 3 leagues, I might have a down week where all of my teams lost. That stunk. Adding a couple more leagues to the mix solved that one

I have never understood this line of thinking at all in that the recommendation for "enjoying" FF is to overwhelm yourself to a point to where you can't possibly keep up with all the details. And for many of us who began playing, a big draw WAS that it was about details and crunching numbers and understanding trends and increasing our knowledge of a the game.

I am sure it works for some but for others it is the exact reason it doesn't work. If you began playing because you see it as a fun, strategic hobby that just so happens to coincide with a sport you love, being overwhelmed by the data and logistics is the exact opposite of what made it fun.

Add in the time commitments that come with multiple leagues (trying to work waivers, bids, drops/adds, lineups, etc) for 5+ leagues (and do it well) goes against the grain of that initial draw to the game in where you got to sink your claws in deep to understanding and manipulating every aspect of a team to guide it the direction you best could.

not overwhelming, ESPECIALLY with FBG's 10 second primer, which is the best feature they've added in over a decade imo.

I still do the usual Tuesday evening loop through my leagues to set up my waiver moves. I still loop through my leagues every single day on the ipad to see if there have been any key adds/drops that I might want to jump on. I still stay on top of player news, set my rosters, etc.

What 5 leagues does for me is not make the process of WATCHING football be all about a single fantasy team. It let's Sunday be a day when I can enjoy the games, or my family, and know that it's not worth rooting for any one player in the moment, since that same player is probably going against me in another league or two. It let's me just chill and let the cards fall where they will on Monday night. It gives me the best balance between everything we love about running a fantasy team, and everything we love about watching the game of football when we were kids.

 

[Steve Tasker]

And what struck me wasn't that he didn't recognize the need to change if he wanted to stay competitive, but how he no longer had the drive, the need or the desire to change his approach.

This sums up my experience in a nutshell.

 

[slackjawedyokel]

My personal beef in this thread is simple. I and many work hard at this game and win lots of money every year. Is it luck? Sure a big part of it is. But does it take skill to win a lot of money every year? Yes. DFS success is a large part of skill. Like cards, it takes luck but a lot of skill.

But insulting a game as it being all luck when it does take a lot of skill and foresight is not a great thread in my eyes especially when that thread is on a site devoted to the very game they want to make seem is all luck. But this thread is supposed to glorify those people quitting and want to call it all luck. I even seen a post since deleted that said those who spend a lot of time neglect their families. No, technology and phones made it so much less "neglectful." I take a dump and check my lineup, I stop at a train I check my lineup. I wait in a fast food line, I check my lineup. Line at the bank? You guessed it. Its called dedication, its not neglecting my family, unless I neglect my family while checking my lineup on a toilet. I just used my spare time on fantasy sites instead of checking facebook.

It's possible that your perception of this thread is misaligned with reality. It's not solely for the purpose of saying that FF is all luck, or that it is a drain, or ruins the real game. It's a conversation about a problem that is very real for some of us. Not everyone has identical values and that is okay. But just because you don't personally think that FF can be a distraction from family or work or have any negative consequences does not make it universally true. For me, 6 leagues was too much. I felt the pressure of working the waivers and started experiencing negative emotions. Seeing someone else post a similar experience is helpful for others dealing with the same thing. In my case, I'm not quitting, just downsizing from 6 to 3. The tips for avoiding FF burnout have been helpful. It's not just a "taking my ball and going home" either. I had a killer year, won serious scratch, and improved every team. The opportunity cost was a bit too heavy and having a discussion about it is helpful for those in a similar mindset and can even be helpful for players who have no burnout but may someday.No offense to you, but get over yourself.

 

[Franknbeans]

I almost quit last year. I still enjoy watching the 4th quarters of the early games and I don't know when that will change. I do not want to miss time with my family and watching the games with my 9 year old son this season was a highlight for me. I do want to diversify, though so I look forward to the day I retire from the hobby. I often told myself that one of the reasons I did it was to stave off dementia. I think it's a consuming mental exercise for that.

 

[jvdesigns2002]

I think if a person is going to quit FF they shouldn't feel the need to share that info on a FF message board. They should just quit and the good feelings they had inside by making this decision should be there no matter what. They shouldn't have to get positive reinforcement from us to keep that good feeling they have inside by quitting. Just move on to the next phase of your life without us knowing about it. After all, we're strangers on some message board.

This is a community to some of us and some of us have made friends here as well as played in leagues together over a decade.Just leave this thread since it has absolutely nothing to do with you. You sound like a total doosh with that post.

No reason to get personal. Also, it's easy to post on your league message board you won't be back.

Calling quitters replaceable is a no no. Calling them a doosh for being upset with quitters and a look at me thread is OK. Message boards never cease to amaze me.

I never said calling quitters replaceable a no no. But being a doosh...is something I will always call out.Don't be a doosh.

LOL.

Likewise. But I was talking to the guy who called me rude for saying people are replaceable but he is OK with people being called names.

Please show me where I have ever said it was OK to call people names or to make personal attacks on this thread or anywhere in this forum. I don't appreciate words being put into my mouth. The fact that I didn't comment on somebody being called a name doesn't mean I condone it--it maybe means that I'm at work and don't have time to comment on every post made. I've read your posts and I congratulate you for your success in fantasy sports and I really mean that. I just choose to disagree with you on the potential benefits and self reflection that this thread can have on some people that are to the point where maybe fantasy sports is taking away from the other important elements of their lives. For you--maybe fantasy sports is contributing to your life---and thats great. However--I personally felt that your comments came across as being very rude and dismissive to the very fantasy community that makes these forums great. There is a great chance that this thread will not benefit your life in any sort of positive way--but it's clearly evident that this thread does have a lot of people thinking that maybe there are a bit too drowned in it. You telling them that their self reflection is nothing more than complaining, and how people are sooo easily replaceable is rude--and frankly obvious. I could tell everybody that I come in contact with that they will all eventually die--and even though it is the truth--it would be highly inappropriate for me to do that. You came into a forum that was clearly identitifed and titled--you went out of your way to make a snarky and inappropriate comment--and now are getting defensive for getting callled out on it. In brutal honesty--I actually find that your posts defending yourself and explaining where you are coming from are far more contributory in a contrarian way to this thread. I wish your original comment would have been stated in a similar more non-abrasive way. In any case--there's no reason to go back and forth as it's pretty obvious where we both stand. Enjoy the rest of your day and I wish you continued fantasy success.

 

[tone1oc]

How are our retirees doing?

Sabertooth

Shutout

Insein?

Todem

Jed?

jmo87usc

Has the sting of the season wore off yet? Or is your resolve as strong as ever?

 

[slackjawedyokel]

How are our retirees doing?

Sabertooth

Shutout

Insein?

Todem

Jed?

jmo87usc

Has the sting of the season wore off yet? Or is your resolve as strong as ever?

Solidarity, my brothers.

 

[DallasDMac]

How are our retirees doing?

Sabertooth

Shutout

Insein?

Todem

Jed?

jmo87usc

Has the sting of the season wore off yet? Or is your resolve as strong as ever?

After 15 posts and 6 likes, I think it's time to no longer post in this thread. It's been a great run, looking back on it, I never could have done it without the support of you all. One day there will be another thread with other posters, and I'm fine with that. But for me, the world is stopping, if only for a minute.

I may post some more, but this is it.

Apparently better than you were doing at not being a ####. But I doubt that surprises anyone.

 

[tone1oc]

I'd prefer if you call me Richard.

 

[Steeler]

My personal beef in this thread is simple. I and many work hard at this game and win lots of money every year. Is it luck? Sure a big part of it is. But does it take skill to win a lot of money every year? Yes. DFS success is a large part of skill. Like cards, it takes luck but a lot of skill.

But insulting a game as it being all luck when it does take a lot of skill and foresight is not a great thread in my eyes especially when that thread is on a site devoted to the very game they want to make seem is all luck. But this thread is supposed to glorify those people quitting and want to call it all luck. I even seen a post since deleted that said those who spend a lot of time neglect their families. No, technology and phones made it so much less "neglectful." I take a dump and check my lineup, I stop at a train I check my lineup. I wait in a fast food line, I check my lineup. Line at the bank? You guessed it. Its called dedication, its not neglecting my family, unless I neglect my family while checking my lineup on a toilet. I just used my spare time on fantasy sites instead of checking facebook.

It's possible that your perception of this thread is misaligned with reality. It's not solely for the purpose of saying that FF is all luck, or that it is a drain, or ruins the real game. It's a conversation about a problem that is very real for some of us. Not everyone has identical values and that is okay. But just because you don't personally think that FF can be a distraction from family or work or have any negative consequences does not make it universally true. For me, 6 leagues was too much. I felt the pressure of working the waivers and started experiencing negative emotions. Seeing someone else post a similar experience is helpful for others dealing with the same thing. In my case, I'm not quitting, just downsizing from 6 to 3. The tips for avoiding FF burnout have been helpful. It's not just a "taking my ball and going home" either. I had a killer year, won serious scratch, and improved every team. The opportunity cost was a bit too heavy and having a discussion about it is helpful for those in a similar mindset and can even be helpful for players who have no burnout but may someday.No offense to you, but get over yourself.

This is a surprisingly lucid post for a slackjawedyokel

 

[Sabertooth]

How are our retirees doing?

Sabertooth

Shutout

Insein?

Todem

Jed?

jmo87usc

Has the sting of the season wore off yet? Or is your resolve as strong as ever?

Didn't really have a sting at the end of the season. Took a 2nd. I was only in the two leagues. Finished 2nd and 5th. No desire to go back.

 

[dirtyjay]

How are our retirees doing?

Sabertooth

Shutout

Insein?

Todem

Jed?

jmo87usc

Has the sting of the season wore off yet? Or is your resolve as strong as ever?

Didn't really have a sting at the end of the season. Took a 2nd. I was only in the two leagues. Finished 2nd and 5th. No desire to go back.

Isnt fantasy season over?

 

[Otis]

How are our retirees doing?

Sabertooth

Shutout

Insein?

Todem

Jed?

jmo87usc

Has the sting of the season wore off yet? Or is your resolve as strong as ever?

Didn't really have a sting at the end of the season. Took a 2nd. I was only in the two leagues. Finished 2nd and 5th. No desire to go back.

See you in August.

 

[Shutout]

How are our retirees doing?

Sabertooth

Shutout

Insein?

Todem

Jed?

jmo87usc

Has the sting of the season wore off yet? Or is your resolve as strong as ever?

It's going well.

I finished with winning titles in half my leagues. One dynasty team looking like it will be very strong. Whoever takes it over will play with house money for a few years if they are good at ff.

It may be coincidence since the opening playoff games were so unique but I enjoyed watching football this past weekend of playoffs more than I have in I can't remember when. I had never noticed it before but I found it funny that when one of "my" ff guys got hurt this weekend, I didn't cringe and fret and say out loud "I hope it's not an ACL and he misses the start of next year". Instead, my first reaction was "whoo. That changes this game and maybe next".

I've been on the board about 1/3 as much as I normally am and have read several FFA topics. I've posted a bit less.

Overall, it's been real good.

 

[dirtyjay]

How are our retirees doing?

Sabertooth

Shutout

Insein?

Todem

Jed?

jmo87usc

Has the sting of the season wore off yet? Or is your resolve as strong as ever?

It's going well.

I finished with winning titles in half my leagues. One dynasty team looking like it will be very strong. Whoever takes it over will play with house money for a few years if they are good at ff.

It may be coincidence since the opening playoff games were so unique but I enjoyed watching football this past weekend of playoffs more than I have in I can't remember when. I had never noticed it before but I found it funny that when one of "my" ff guys got hurt this weekend, I didn't cringe and fret and say out loud "I hope it's not an ACL and he misses the start of next year". Instead, my first reaction was "whoo. That changes this game and maybe next".

I've been on the board about 1/3 as much as I normally am and have read several FFA topics. I've posted a bit less.

Overall, it's been real good.

The season just ended.

 

[Sabertooth]

Not for Packers fans, it didn't.

 

[Pip's Invitation]

I quit this thread!

I quit reading dirtyjay posts!

 

[Shutout]

How are our retirees doing?

Sabertooth

Shutout

Insein?

Todem

Jed?

jmo87usc

Has the sting of the season wore off yet? Or is your resolve as strong as ever?

It's going well.

I finished with winning titles in half my leagues. One dynasty team looking like it will be very strong. Whoever takes it over will play with house money for a few years if they are good at ff.

It may be coincidence since the opening playoff games were so unique but I enjoyed watching football this past weekend of playoffs more than I have in I can't remember when. I had never noticed it before but I found it funny that when one of "my" ff guys got hurt this weekend, I didn't cringe and fret and say out loud "I hope it's not an ACL and he misses the start of next year". Instead, my first reaction was "whoo. That changes this game and maybe next".

I've been on the board about 1/3 as much as I normally am and have read several FFA topics. I've posted a bit less.

Overall, it's been real good.

The season just ended.

What's your point to this?

If it is that because ff just ended and I feel a certain way, that could be true. I tend to be more than ready for the break as a season ends. But as I mentioned in earlier posts, I have been plotting this out for some time now.

If it is relation to me being here less and posting less, I don't think the season ending means anything. I have always been an all-year round poster. I haven't, in the past, disappeared from the boards during the off-season.

 

[tone1oc]

I can't answer for DirtyJay, but the reason I was checking in is twofold.. 1) because I'm kind of calling your bluff, and 2) I'll miss your guys' posts. I figure that if I can get us to discuss quitting up to FA and rookie drafts that the hook will be re-set. You aren't going anywhere!!!

 

[dirtyjay]

How are our retirees doing?

Sabertooth

Shutout

Insein?

Todem

Jed?

jmo87usc

Has the sting of the season wore off yet? Or is your resolve as strong as ever?

It's going well.

I finished with winning titles in half my leagues. One dynasty team looking like it will be very strong. Whoever takes it over will play with house money for a few years if they are good at ff.

It may be coincidence since the opening playoff games were so unique but I enjoyed watching football this past weekend of playoffs more than I have in I can't remember when. I had never noticed it before but I found it funny that when one of "my" ff guys got hurt this weekend, I didn't cringe and fret and say out loud "I hope it's not an ACL and he misses the start of next year". Instead, my first reaction was "whoo. That changes this game and maybe next".

I've been on the board about 1/3 as much as I normally am and have read several FFA topics. I've posted a bit less.

Overall, it's been real good.

The season just ended.

What's your point to this?

If it is that because ff just ended and I feel a certain way, that could be true. I tend to be more than ready for the break as a season ends. But as I mentioned in earlier posts, I have been plotting this out for some time now.

If it is relation to me being here less and posting less, I don't think the season ending means anything. I have always been an all-year round poster. I haven't, in the past, disappeared from the boards during the off-season.

Just like Calvin, maybe you call it quits maybe you dont. Nothing is certain right after the season ends, too many different feelings and emotions.

 

[Touchdown There]

Going to drop my final two leagues after this playoffs. Been fun bantering with you guys. The game just isn't what I started playing 20 years ago. Like most things in life it just isn't fun after a while. Going to focus all this time and money on something productive.

Go Pack Go.

Download ZeroBlock app on your phone. Read all you can and enjoy the ride, thank me later.

#GoPack

Just a soap opera drama weekly. Mike Hearn, core dev says "I'm done" then drops the mic. Cryptsy comes clean and is insolvent. Block size drama. 10x better than anything FF can bring.

 

[Todem]

How are our retirees doing?

Sabertooth

Shutout

Insein?

Todem

Jed?

jmo87usc

Has the sting of the season wore off yet? Or is your resolve as strong as ever?

All of my Dynasty teams have been officially adopted. Two 2015 title teams, a second place team and a third place team. All built to win for years. Feels great to know I am going to be watching football again with absolutely zero fantasy implications.

It's been forever since I have done that (25 years to be exact). I have plotted this out for the last 3 years and this was the final season. I feel awesome.

And no.....I am not coming back. However I will still hang out here and give insight on the Dolphins. Other than Dolphins talk and general football talk I will not be involved in player discussions of any other team except the Dolphins for fantasy purposes. The Dolphins are my team, I follow them closely and can still add some value to some members here who own them.

Other than that.....life's good.

 

[Sabertooth]

Me too. Transferred commish duties the other day because owners apparently wanted to be able to make trades. I was totally unaware. Hadn't logged onto the site in a month.

 

[dirtyjay]

So much time and effort to show how much some dont want to play fantasy football.

On a fantasy football message board in January.

 

[Todem]

So much time and effort to show how much some dont want to play fantasy football.

On a fantasy football message board in January.

I burned 500 calories typing a reply to someone's direct question. So it was worth the effort.

And you put in quite the effort to continue to be a doosh bag.

Be well.

 

[Steve Tasker]

The real test of fortitude will be in August when FF drafts roll around and your buddies are all talking about it and inviting you to leagues.

 

[Ladsud]

After a game like tonight, how could you ever quit. Embrace the randomness.

 

[netnalp]

Going to drop my final two leagues after this playoffs. Been fun bantering with you guys. The game just isn't what I started playing 20 years ago. Like most things in life it just isn't fun after a while. Going to focus all this time and money on something productive.

Go Pack Go.

I haven't played FF in about 10 years and I still come to this site and listen to the podcast.

 

[tone1oc]

How are our retirees doing?

Sabertooth

Shutout

Insein?

Todem

Jed?

jmo87usc

Has the sting of the season wore off yet? Or is your resolve as strong as ever?

All of my Dynasty teams have been officially adopted. Two 2015 title teams, a second place team and a third place team. All built to win for years. Feels great to know I am going to be watching football again with absolutely zero fantasy implications.

It's been forever since I have done that (25 years to be exact). I have plotted this out for the last 3 years and this was the final season. I feel awesome.

And no.....I am not coming back. However I will still hang out here and give insight on the Dolphins. Other than Dolphins talk and general football talk I will not be involved in player discussions of any other team except the Dolphins for fantasy purposes. The Dolphins are my team, I follow them closely and can still add some value to some members here who own them.

Other than that.....life's good.

You left fantasy in a much better place than which you found it. That is all you can ask for.

 

[drummer]

This retirement thread has more LOOK AT ME than any one of Brett Farve's retirements

 

[Zdravko]

It's an emotionally draining hobby. Most of us tend to take it much more seriously than it's worth from a real-life, big-picture perspective. So it's only natural to feel exhausted at the end of the season - jaded from trade talk, waivers and decision pressures - frustrated with the seemingly endless role that luck and randomness play - annoyed with the easy access to info we thought only a select few hard-workers had.

I have gone through this feeling of "Time to quit" a couple of times. The answer for me has always been "Don't throw out the baby with the bath water". It's a good, fun hobby - no need to quit it altogether. Just get under control the drain it puts on your emotional state and on your real-life activities. I posted a few pages back 5 tips to make it sustainable. I would add a 6th - if you have something meaningful to do in the real world on a Sunday, don't stay on the couch for 8 hours watching RedZone instead.

 

[Sabertooth]

Interesting last night. Watched the Packers game with two guys still playing in my dynast league I just retired from. All Packers fans. After the bigDavid Johnson play one says, "that's my guy." I looked at him and said "all my guys wear Green and Yellow now." Felt good not to have split allegiance.

 

[Todem]

Interesting last night. Watched the Packers game with two guys still playing in my dynast league I just retired from. All Packers fans. After the bigDavid Johnson play one says, "that's my guy." I looked at him and said "all my guys wear Green and Yellow now." Felt good not to have split allegiance.

I am loving watching football again for the first time in a long while (last 5 years particularly). And that is the primary reason I gave this up. I just was not enjoying watching NFL football anymore.

It's really that simple for me.

Where for the longest time fantasy made football that much more intense and fun (and it did I love following every team and knowing every player etc) after 25 years....it wore out it's welcome for me. It is what it is for me personally.

Anyway. For those that love FF awesome. Keep going. I am not here to diss the game. I loved FF for a long time. It provided me with man many fun times and plenty of $$$$. It just wore out it's welcome for me and I just don't care to continue playing it. Maybe after a few seasons I will get the itch again......maybe not. I think it will be the later. It ran it's course for me.

 

[Sabertooth]

Interesting last night. Watched the Packers game with two guys still playing in my dynast league I just retired from. All Packers fans. After the bigDavid Johnson play one says, "that's my guy." I looked at him and said "all my guys wear Green and Yellow now." Felt good not to have split allegiance.

I am loving watching football again for the first time in a long while. And that is the primary reason I gave this up. I just was not enjoying watching football anymore.

It's really that simple for me.

I read you. I'm assuming you play guitar from your avatar pic. Thinking of buying Rocksmith for xbox one. Always wanted to learn to play. Think my daughter would probably jump right in too.

 

[Todem]

Interesting last night. Watched the Packers game with two guys still playing in my dynast league I just retired from. All Packers fans. After the bigDavid Johnson play one says, "that's my guy." I looked at him and said "all my guys wear Green and Yellow now." Felt good not to have split allegiance.

I am loving watching football again for the first time in a long while. And that is the primary reason I gave this up. I just was not enjoying watching football anymore.

It's really that simple for me.

I read you. I'm assuming you play guitar from your avatar pic. Thinking of buying Rocksmith for xbox one. Always wanted to learn to play. Think my daughter would probably jump right in too.

Sure do. Been playing since I am 12 years old. Long time rock guitarist. Rock Smith looks very cool for those wanting to learn. I play completely by ear and was self taught.

The guitar in my avatar is my Gibson Custom Signature Alex Lifeson 355. Only 300 were made. I have #207. Best guitar I own. Incredible tone and feel.

 

[cstu]

So much time and effort to show how much some dont want to play fantasy football.

On a fantasy football message board in January.

Can you not comprehend the difference between talking about FF and actually owning a team?

 

[UncleZen]

About 5 years ago, dropped everything but 1 free league with some friends and family. I also changed some of the die hard strategies. For example, I will draft players I like and avoid those that I don't. I still enjoy the banter of it all and aim to win, but I don't give a crap if I don't.

 

[JohnnyU]

You play to win the game!!!!!!

 

[Touchdown There]

This retirement thread has more LOOK AT ME than any one of Brett Farve's retirements

More "look at me" than Favre's dic pics to the massage therapists?

 

[Dr. Octopus]

So much time and effort to show how much some dont want to play fantasy football.

On a fantasy football message board in January.

You seem very invested in this topic. You're acting as if those people choosing to quit are somehow insulting you, as if they're coming in here saying "Anyone that chooses to play fantasy football is a giant loser".

People burn out and move on. If you feel it's being done in a "look at me" manner and can't see that it's likely just a cathartic expression for some - just don't read the thread.

 

[SWC]

brohans if fantasy football is not your thing that is aok and if you are not in to showers hey that is ok too that is all i am saying your all right i am all right and that is great and hey it does not even matter how you smell most of the time anyhow so basicaly just leave the old swcer the hell alone is what i am getting at take that to the bank brohans

 

[Steed]

Perhaps I missed it up thread but wouldn't quitting ff include quitting ff forums?

 

[Fariq]

Perhaps I missed it up thread but wouldn't quitting ff include quitting ff forums?

It would for me.

 

[cstu]

Perhaps I missed it up thread but wouldn't quitting ff include quitting ff forums?

People can be interested in discussing teams/players without being personally invested.

 

[jvdesigns2002]

Perhaps I missed it up thread but wouldn't quitting ff include quitting ff forums?

People can be interested in discussing teams/players without being personally invested.

This is very true. A lot of my buddies bet on sports--a world that I'm not interested in entering at all. However--I still have discussions with them about what teams and spreads that I personally like. I don't understand why some of the people that have no desire to quit fantasy sports are soo offended by others talking about how leaving fantasy sports might be a better option for their lifestyles.

 

[drummer]

Perhaps I missed it up thread but wouldn't quitting ff include quitting ff forums?

It would for me.

Sabes isn't quitting. Trolls never quit. They just get banned.

 

[drummer]

"I decided to retire so I can spend more time with my kid"

See sonny, this is how you troll a fantasy football forum hahahaha

 

[netnalp]

I didn't make a decision to quit. The friends I had a league with had a few quit. (Guess kids don't only put an end to sex). I just haven't come across a league I want to be in.