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Benson Is Terrible (1 Viewer)

| Rushing | Receiving |

+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+

| Year TM | G | Att Yards Y/A TD | Rec Yards Y/R TD |

+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+

| 1975 chi | 13 | 196 679 3.5 7 | 33 213 6.5 0 |

| 1976 chi | 14 | 311 1390 4.5 13 | 15 149 9.9 0 |

| 1977 chi | 14 | 339 1852 5.5 14 | 27 269 10.0 2 |

| 1978 chi | 16 | 333 1395 4.2 11 | 50 480 9.6 0 |

| 1979 chi | 16 | 369 1610 4.4 14 | 31 313 10.1 2 |

| 1980 chi | 16 | 317 1460 4.6 6 | 46 367 8.0 1 |

| 1981 chi | 16 | 339 1222 3.6 6 | 41 379 9.2 2 |

| 1982 chi | 9 | 148 596 4.0 1 | 32 311 9.7 0 |

| 1983 chi | 16 | 314 1421 4.5 6 | 53 607 11.5 2 |

| 1984 chi | 16 | 381 1684 4.4 11 | 45 368 8.2 0 |

| 1985 chi | 16 | 324 1551 4.8 9 | 49 483 9.9 2 |

| 1986 chi | 16 | 321 1333 4.2 8 | 37 382 10.3 3 |

| 1987 chi | 12 | 146 533 3.7 4 | 33 217 6.6 1 |

+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+

| TOTAL | 190 | 3838 16726 4.4 110 | 492 4538 9.2 15 |

+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+
Exactly, I count 4.
4 Bad years?Maybe 81. And 87 wasnt all that good. But please.
What about 75 and 82?
he did only play 9 games in 82. and he averaged 4 yards per carry.
1 TD in 9 games is not very good. Im not trying to disrespect Walter at all, just rather saying that good players do have down years and that it is due mostly to situation, just like Moss in Oakland, and everybody thinks Frank Gore sucks right now.
75 was his rookie year and he split time. Also, that team was beyond horrible.82 was the strike year, of course he only played in 9 games. He average 4 yards a carry, which is average to above average and he was also a great factor in the passing game in 82.

ETA - you mentioned down years, where are Benson's NON down years? At UT?
If you're going to use those reasons as excuses for Walter's down numbers in 1975, the same would apply to Benson.While he's not splitting time, for all intents & purposes, this is basically Benson's rookie year & this 2007 Bears squad is as equally beyond horrible, as the 1975 Bears were.

However, Benson does Blow.

 
75 was his rookie year and he split time. Also, that team was beyond horrible.

82 was the strike year, of course he only played in 9 games. He average 4 yards a carry, which is average to above average and he was also a great factor in the passing game in 82.

ETA - you mentioned down years, where are Benson's NON down years? At UT?
If you're going to use those reasons as excuses for Walter's down numbers in 1975, the same would apply to Benson.While he's not splitting time, for all intents & purposes, this is basically Benson's rookie year & this 2007 Bears squad is as equally beyond horrible, as the 1975 Bears were.

However, Benson does Blow.
In no way shape or form can this be considered Benson's rookie year. Also, I wouldnt put this particular Bears team as nearly as bereft of talent as the 75 team. And again, Payton had down years, but he also had spectacular years. There is zero indication that Benson is capable of the second.
 
dparker713 said:
75 was his rookie year and he split time. Also, that team was beyond horrible.

82 was the strike year, of course he only played in 9 games. He average 4 yards a carry, which is average to above average and he was also a great factor in the passing game in 82.

ETA - you mentioned down years, where are Benson's NON down years? At UT?
If you're going to use those reasons as excuses for Walter's down numbers in 1975, the same would apply to Benson.While he's not splitting time, for all intents & purposes, this is basically Benson's rookie year & this 2007 Bears squad is as equally beyond horrible, as the 1975 Bears were.

However, Benson does Blow.
In no way shape or form can this be considered Benson's rookie year. Also, I wouldnt put this particular Bears team as nearly as bereft of talent as the 75 team. And again, Payton had down years, but he also had spectacular years. There is zero indication that Benson is capable of the second.
Why does Benson have to be Payton in order not to be called terrible, horrible or a bust?
 
dparker713 said:
75 was his rookie year and he split time. Also, that team was beyond horrible.

82 was the strike year, of course he only played in 9 games. He average 4 yards a carry, which is average to above average and he was also a great factor in the passing game in 82.

ETA - you mentioned down years, where are Benson's NON down years? At UT?
If you're going to use those reasons as excuses for Walter's down numbers in 1975, the same would apply to Benson.While he's not splitting time, for all intents & purposes, this is basically Benson's rookie year & this 2007 Bears squad is as equally beyond horrible, as the 1975 Bears were.

However, Benson does Blow.
In no way shape or form can this be considered Benson's rookie year. Also, I wouldnt put this particular Bears team as nearly as bereft of talent as the 75 team. And again, Payton had down years, but he also had spectacular years. There is zero indication that Benson is capable of the second.
Why does Benson have to be Payton in order not to be called terrible, horrible or a bust?
No, he just has to not suck. Plus it would help if he didnt constantly aleinate all the people in Chicago with his warped sense of entitlement.
 
dparker713 said:
75 was his rookie year and he split time. Also, that team was beyond horrible.

82 was the strike year, of course he only played in 9 games. He average 4 yards a carry, which is average to above average and he was also a great factor in the passing game in 82.

ETA - you mentioned down years, where are Benson's NON down years? At UT?
If you're going to use those reasons as excuses for Walter's down numbers in 1975, the same would apply to Benson.While he's not splitting time, for all intents & purposes, this is basically Benson's rookie year & this 2007 Bears squad is as equally beyond horrible, as the 1975 Bears were.

However, Benson does Blow.
In no way shape or form can this be considered Benson's rookie year. Also, I wouldnt put this particular Bears team as nearly as bereft of talent as the 75 team. And again, Payton had down years, but he also had spectacular years. There is zero indication that Benson is capable of the second.
Why does Benson have to be Payton in order not to be called terrible, horrible or a bust?
I didnt make the comparison to start with. I merely said that they dont compare, and trying to equate Benson with Payton is absurd. And Benson is a terrible, horrible bust all on his own merits, without the need to compare him to anyone, even Curtis Enis.

 
:( he was waived in one of my dynasty leagues, so I picked him up for Matt Jones. Not sure which is the better/worse pick right now.
 
Peterson >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ben(Bust)son :football:

 
Peterson >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ben(Bust)son :angry:
What do you know? Adrian Peterson averaged 3.0 yards per carry this week. And yet people were constantly being mocked in this thread for suggesting that maybe the Bears offensive line had something to do with Cedric Benson's production. The Bears simply cannot run block right now... accept it... think of it as a reverse-Denver effect.
 
I am a big, big Adrian Peterson fan, but I have never seen a rb get tripped up, by what seemed like just a pinkie, as many times as he did yesterday. Really frustrating.

I think because he runs so hard, he gives up alot in terms of balance. But he hurt us yesterday with all the trip-ups, no doubt about it.

 
Wow I cant believe this thread fell all the way to page 6? What, now that the haters dont have Benson to blame ALL the bears offensive problems on ya'll aint got nothing to talk about now? Keith Lewis you think Peterson is better than Benson? He really blew up tonight, was "running hard" and "proving why he shouldve replaced Benson weeks ago" as most articles this week suggested, and even with Peterson the supposed savior who was suppose to revive the running game in there now as the everydown back, they still cant run three weeks in a row? Hum, seems to me it IS an O-Line and coaching problem moreso than Benson. Can you guys see it now? Can you guys please drop the world is flat and we are all right because we are the majority syndrome now? Dont be followers, and follow what some other fools say. Just because the majority felt it was Bensons fault and that he sucked, didnt mean you were right. That WHOLE OFFENSIVE TEAM and system, and coaching sucks and Benson was probably actually the lone bright spot. They just flat out cannot run block. Like I said, it wouldnt matter who was lining up at RB for the Bears, they can't run block, oh and they are still LOSING games, something else Benson was blamed for.

 
Wow I cant believe this thread fell all the way to page 6? What, now that the haters dont have Benson to blame ALL the bears offensive problems on ya'll aint got nothing to talk about now? Keith Lewis you think Peterson is better than Benson? He really blew up tonight, was "running hard" and "proving why he shouldve replaced Benson weeks ago" as most articles this week suggested, and even with Peterson the supposed savior who was suppose to revive the running game in there now as the everydown back, they still cant run three weeks in a row? Hum, seems to me it IS an O-Line and coaching problem moreso than Benson. Can you guys see it now? Can you guys please drop the world is flat and we are all right because we are the majority syndrome now? Dont be followers, and follow what some other fools say. Just because the majority felt it was Bensons fault and that he sucked, didnt mean you were right. That WHOLE OFFENSIVE TEAM and system, and coaching sucks and Benson was probably actually the lone bright spot. They just flat out cannot run block. Like I said, it wouldnt matter who was lining up at RB for the Bears, they can't run block, oh and they are still LOSING games, something else Benson was blamed for.
All that big long speech and then that? :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:
 
Benson may not have been the problem. The problem is they traded thier best offensive player away...TJ. He played well in that poor system..

 
I admit I was wrong about Benson initially, because he does blow. I had him in 5 of 6 dynasty leagues when the season started, now I own him in 1. At least I own AP in that league as well. I know no one gives a rats a-s-s about my teams, but I'm curious how many unloaded him at the right time for something decent.

 
Honestly, I think the Bears would have had a good chance to win the game against the Redskins tonite if they had a viable running threat, like Cedric Benson. Bring all the hate you want, but AP chicago style, was pathetic.

 
No matter how anyone spins this, the plain, sick, twisted, funny, obvious truth is........

BENSON BLOWS!
Could you please provide some sort of analysis and/or facts, to back up your claims? Because talk is cheap, but I dont think you can back it up. Throughout 21 pages in this thread you havent provide one original thought or analysis other than your opinion that Benson blows. Please prove that its not the system and coaching with some sort of logical thought process and analysis or please just stop talking.Also why do you put my quotes in your sig? Are you secretly in love with me?

 
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No matter how anyone spins this, the plain, sick, twisted, funny, obvious truth is........

BENSON BLOWS!
Could you please provide some sort of analysis and/or facts, to back up your claims? Because talk is cheap, but I dont think you can back it up. Throughout 21 pages in this thread you havent provide one original thought or analysis other than your opinion.Also why do you put my quotes in your sig? Are you secretly in love with me?
When Benson first came into the league no one was a bigger supporter of Benson than me (except maybe Benson will lead the way, lol). Having said that, here is what I see from Benson. I see a guy who isn't decisive, and when he is, he doesn't have enough burst to get through a hole on a consistent basis. I'm not buying into the injury prone analysis of him, even though he's had problems with injuries since coming into the league. I think most of that is just bad luck. Obviously he's a running back that HAS to have a stud OL to be successful. I think a lot of bigger backs depend on the OL more than shifty, stout, explosive backs. I think we're seeing the same thing from Shawn Alexander.

 
No matter how anyone spins this, the plain, sick, twisted, funny, obvious truth is........

BENSON BLOWS!
Could you please provide some sort of analysis and/or facts, to back up your claims? Because talk is cheap, but I dont think you can back it up. Throughout 21 pages in this thread you havent provide one original thought or analysis other than your opinion that Benson blows. Please prove that its not the system and coaching with some sort of logical thought process and analysis or please just stop talking.Also why do you put my quotes in your sig? Are you secretly in love with me?
Go back through the 21 pages, I outlined the 10 reasons why Benson sucks. It was all about how he is the problem and not his line, if you don't have the time to look it up, feel free to stop yapping. :shrug:
 
Honestly, I think the Bears would have had a good chance to win the game against the Redskins tonite if they had a viable running threat, like Cedric Benson. Bring all the hate you want, but AP chicago style, was pathetic.
:shrug:
OK, forget the hate, just bring on the emoticons. Here are Bensons stats from his last 4 games:8/47/0 (left, injured)

11/89/1

29/76/1

13/50/0

I'm saying Chicago might have benefited from a grinder like Benson tonite and possibly got a couple of key first downs and maybe woulda/coulda/shoulda won the game. What are you saying Mr Emoticon?

 
Honestly, I think the Bears would have had a good chance to win the game against the Redskins tonite if they had a viable running threat, like Cedric Benson. Bring all the hate you want, but AP chicago style, was pathetic.
:shrug:
OK, forget the hate, just bring on the emoticons. Here are Bensons stats from his last 4 games:8/47/0 (left, injured)

11/89/1

29/76/1

13/50/0

I'm saying Chicago might have benefited from a grinder like Benson tonite and possibly got a couple of key first downs and maybe woulda/coulda/shoulda won the game. What are you saying Mr Emoticon?
:loco:
 
No matter how anyone spins this, the plain, sick, twisted, funny, obvious truth is........

BENSON BLOWS!
Could you please provide some sort of analysis and/or facts, to back up your claims? Because talk is cheap, but I dont think you can back it up. Throughout 21 pages in this thread you havent provide one original thought or analysis other than your opinion.Also why do you put my quotes in your sig? Are you secretly in love with me?
When Benson first came into the league no one was a bigger supporter of Benson than me (except maybe Benson will lead the way, lol). Having said that, here is what I see from Benson. I see a guy who isn't decisive, and when he is, he doesn't have enough burst to get through a hole on a consistent basis. I'm not buying into the injury prone analysis of him, even though he's had problems with injuries since coming into the league. I think most of that is just bad luck. Obviously he's a running back that HAS to have a stud OL to be successful. I think a lot of bigger backs depend on the OL more than shifty, stout, explosive backs. I think we're seeing the same thing from Shawn Alexander.
He doesnt need a stud O-line, just NOT having the WORST O-line in the league would probably do. And as for him not being decisive? Well hell, how could you be decisive with 8 defenders in the box every play and literly no holes to run through? Its hard to decide whether to try to run through a 3 inch gap between the LT an LG or a 2 in gap between the LG and the C.
 
Honestly, I think the Bears would have had a good chance to win the game against the Redskins tonite if they had a viable running threat, like Cedric Benson. Bring all the hate you want, but AP chicago style, was pathetic.
:shrug:
OK, forget the hate, just bring on the emoticons. Here are Bensons stats from his last 4 games:8/47/0 (left, injured)

11/89/1

29/76/1

13/50/0

I'm saying Chicago might have benefited from a grinder like Benson tonite and possibly got a couple of key first downs and maybe woulda/coulda/shoulda won the game. What are you saying Mr Emoticon?
:loco:
Honestly, I directed my question at Flapgreen. I'm so glad you butted in. Hey, wifey and I are going furniture shopping this weekend, what are you doing?
 
I can't decide if Ryan_21 is really a Bears fan or simply a Packer fan who loves twisting the knife in an open Bear fan's wound. Either way I love the over the top doggedly clinging to your view approach.

 
Honestly, I think the Bears would have had a good chance to win the game against the Redskins tonite if they had a viable running threat, like Cedric Benson. Bring all the hate you want, but AP chicago style, was pathetic.
:lmao:
OK, forget the hate, just bring on the emoticons. Here are Bensons stats from his last 4 games:8/47/0 (left, injured)

11/89/1

29/76/1

13/50/0

I'm saying Chicago might have benefited from a grinder like Benson tonite and possibly got a couple of key first downs and maybe woulda/coulda/shoulda won the game. What are you saying Mr Emoticon?
Wow, those stats look pretty impressive. I guess Cedric really did turn it on and overcome a horrible offensive line to prove what a valuable commodity he is. If only his incredible season hadn't been felled by injury.Or it could be that his last four games (his 31st, 32nd, 33rd, and 34th regular season game in the NFL) happened to be against 3 of the worst rushing D's in the league (NY Giants, Denver, Seattle, and Oakland) so he started falling forward instead of sideways. Seriously, if anyone out there has seen Benson play in 3 dozen NFL games over the course of 3 years and thinks he's a good RB to build a team around then it's time for your meds. He's mediocre at best and out of a #4 overall draft pick that is a sucking blowing bust. I have said all along that Peterson is not the answer as he has proven to be a mediocre back-up. The difference is Peterson runs with heart, knows his blocking assignments, and is a team player. Benson runs half-assed most of the time, gets his QB hit because he misses blocking assignments, and is a head case who divides the locker room. Throw in the multi-million dollar deviation in salaries and AP wins this in a shutout. I appreciate AP giving his all with his limited skills and I cheer him on. I loathe Benson going through the motions then hinting it's not his fault and I want to vomit.

 
No matter how anyone spins this, the plain, sick, twisted, funny, obvious truth is........

BENSON BLOWS!
Could you please provide some sort of analysis and/or facts, to back up your claims? Because talk is cheap, but I dont think you can back it up. Throughout 21 pages in this thread you havent provide one original thought or analysis other than your opinion.Also why do you put my quotes in your sig? Are you secretly in love with me?
When Benson first came into the league no one was a bigger supporter of Benson than me (except maybe Benson will lead the way, lol). Having said that, here is what I see from Benson. I see a guy who isn't decisive, and when he is, he doesn't have enough burst to get through a hole on a consistent basis. I'm not buying into the injury prone analysis of him, even though he's had problems with injuries since coming into the league. I think most of that is just bad luck. Obviously he's a running back that HAS to have a stud OL to be successful. I think a lot of bigger backs depend on the OL more than shifty, stout, explosive backs. I think we're seeing the same thing from Shawn Alexander.
I'm still here Johnny U. I think the more we see AP struggle and Lovie switching in Wolfe tonight, shows the weakness of the Bears offensive line. They should take an offensive Tackle and Defensive Tackle with their first two picks in the draft. Then go with the two offensive lineman in the 3rd round(they have an extra from the Chargers).
 
Benson may not have been the problem. The problem is they traded thier best offensive player away...TJ. He played well in that poor system..
I know it seems ridiculous watching this team this year, but last year Ron Turner was MUCH better and the o-line was one of the strongest in the leagueI cant believe how far they have fallen in one year.
 
I still cant believe the idiocy of some of the posters in here still.....especially Bears fans. Keith Lewis seems like just a kid with some kind of personal thing with Benson. Im convinced he hasnt seen a Bear game all year. But the Bears fans are disappointing to me.

Our o-line is the problem with our offense. Its been all year, and it should be the recipient of ALL our attacks. Simply put, the most talented group of offensive skill players in the world couldnt have success without an o-line giving them holes, or a push, or the time to throw. Its the most basic thing in football and I would hope Bears fans would understand that.

 
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I still cant believe the idiocy of some of the posters in here still.....especially Bears fans. Keith Lewis seems like just a kid with some kind of personal thing with Benson. Im convinced he hasnt seen a Bear game all year. But the Bears fans are disappointing to me.

Our o-line is the problem with our offense. Its been all year, and it should be the recipient of ALL our attacks. Simply put, the most talented group of offensive skill players in the world couldnt have success without an o-line giving them holes, or a push, or the time to throw. Its the most basic thing in football and I would hope Bears fans would understand that.
I was thinking the same exact thing.Very well put. You hit the nail right on the head

 

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