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I tell everybody to start their searches at Bikes Direct but nobody ever seems to :shrug: Your money I guess, waste it as you see fit.
That website needs a serious overhaul. I agree that they have great bargains, but my god the design and usability of that site is horrendous
There's a reason they sell cheap...little overhead.
Given their reputation I'd go with Poseidon or Canyon. I'm sure people get good deals, but I've heard stories, as well.
 
I tell everybody to start their searches at Bikes Direct but nobody ever seems to :shrug: Your money I guess, waste it as you see fit.
That website needs a serious overhaul. I agree that they have great bargains, but my god the design and usability of that site is horrendous
I honestly don't think their bikes are incredible bargains, but I know a lot of people on this site are fans of them.

It's a major turnoff that they say stuff like *PROMO SALE* Originally $999 NOW $499! Compare to $900 from Trek!

The reality is that the bike they are selling is comparable to a similarly priced bike from Trek. They are the bicycle equivalent of the going out of business furniture store.
 
I really love State bikes. Form and function for a fair price. I'm a single speed guy so these work well. There's also the entry Core line which run $400 and provide great value.

 
Given their reputation I'd go with Poseidon or Canyon. I'm sure people get good deals, but I've heard stories, as well.
I had nothing but Trek but decided my expensive road bike shouldn't be a slave to my trainer so I bought a Poseidon to keep on the trainer. Can't ride much more than an hour on that thing. I need a new saddle just haven't invested the time. My Trek road bike I can ride all day, feels like sitting on the couch.

Not an indictment of Poseidon, I like the bike plenty for $700 and my GB @Jaysus swears by his which is why I got mine, just saying.
 
Given their reputation I'd go with Poseidon or Canyon. I'm sure people get good deals, but I've heard stories, as well.
I had nothing but Trek but decided my expensive road bike shouldn't be a slave to my trainer so I bought a Poseidon to keep on the trainer. Can't ride much more than an hour on that thing. I need a new saddle just haven't invested the time. My Trek road bike I can ride all day, feels like sitting on the couch.

Not an indictment of Poseidon, I like the bike plenty for $700 and my GB @Jaysus swears by his which is why I got mine, just saying.
My brother has a Poseidon X and while it is great value, I agree that the saddle is an abomination. Even with padded shorts it’s awful.
 
Given their reputation I'd go with Poseidon or Canyon. I'm sure people get good deals, but I've heard stories, as well.
I had nothing but Trek but decided my expensive road bike shouldn't be a slave to my trainer so I bought a Poseidon to keep on the trainer. Can't ride much more than an hour on that thing. I need a new saddle just haven't invested the time. My Trek road bike I can ride all day, feels like sitting on the couch.

Not an indictment of Poseidon, I like the bike plenty for $700 and my GB @Jaysus swears by his which is why I got mine, just saying.
My brother has a Poseidon X and while it is great value, I agree that the saddle is an abomination. Even with padded shorts it’s awful.
The wheels are terrible too
 
Given their reputation I'd go with Poseidon or Canyon. I'm sure people get good deals, but I've heard stories, as well.
I had nothing but Trek but decided my expensive road bike shouldn't be a slave to my trainer so I bought a Poseidon to keep on the trainer. Can't ride much more than an hour on that thing. I need a new saddle just haven't invested the time. My Trek road bike I can ride all day, feels like sitting on the couch.

Not an indictment of Poseidon, I like the bike plenty for $700 and my GB @Jaysus swears by his which is why I got mine, just saying.
My brother has a Poseidon X and while it is great value, I agree that the saddle is an abomination. Even with padded shorts it’s awful.
The wheels are terrible too
The wheels on basically every budget bike are terrible. Wheelsets are expensive.
 
I tell everybody to start their searches at Bikes Direct but nobody ever seems to :shrug: Your money I guess, waste it as you see fit.
That website needs a serious overhaul. I agree that they have great bargains, but my god the design and usability of that site is horrendous
I honestly don't think their bikes are incredible bargains, but I know a lot of people on this site are fans of them.

It's a major turnoff that they say stuff like *PROMO SALE* Originally $999 NOW $499! Compare to $900 from Trek!

The reality is that the bike they are selling is comparable to a similarly priced bike from Trek. They are the bicycle equivalent of the going out of business furniture store.
My history with Bikesdirect:

In 2011, they were an incredible deal - the claims they make were roughly true back then when I compared them to LBS prices for Trek/Giant/Specialized. I bought a bike for a great price and loved it for 11 years.

In 2016 when looking for a bike for my older son, I found a better deal when Nashbar was acquired and were selling everything for a great price. Son loves the bike.

In 2019, they were a pretty great deal when I was picking out a bike for my second son - I ended up going with them and he's loved his bike.

In 2020 during the pandemic, I started looking around to replace my bike, and demand was high, prices were high, and there was no availability. I kept watching for the next 2 years and couldn't make myself pull the trigger at the super high prices, which extended out as supply chain issues persisted. I really buckled down and searched hard last summer, and ended up going with Bikesdirect, but man it had gone from 30% less expensive to like 10% less expensive. It was a close call with a Polygon bike. Anyway, I love the bike.

When I poked around this week, I didn't see anything at Bikesdirect that was even worth mentioning at the $500 threshold. We'll see over time, but I think they might have lost their price edge during the pandemic.

And that website is just the worst.
 
My Lemond road bike has been fine for commuting around town. I will probably never be able to fix the brifter so it is stuck in the middle gear on the front ring. And the ball bearings in the back wheel are bad. I've been told it's an easy fix but I ride with the wheel tightened to limit side wobble. Things tend to get worse when I try to repair them. I looked for large frame bikes in my area and found this deal:

$150 for a 2010 Fuji ROUBAIX acr 2.0 road bike. It appears to be the original owner who has had the bike sitting in their garage for the last 10 years after riding it for a few when new.

What do you guys think?
 
The Lemond is probably steel so it rides like a champ when commuting. Honestly, I'd try to find a place / person willing to do repairs for free. There's probably some cycling non profits in SF (I think you live in the city, right?) that might have repair clinics or workshops. See if a kind soul is willing to fix a bike you like and are comfortable riding. If I still lived in Oakland, I'd BART over and do it for you, but I've been in Baltimore for 15 years now.
 
The Lemond is probably steel so it rides like a champ when commuting. Honestly, I'd try to find a place / person willing to do repairs for free. There's probably some cycling non profits in SF (I think you live in the city, right?) that might have repair clinics or workshops. See if a kind soul is willing to fix a bike you like and are comfortable riding. If I still lived in Oakland, I'd BART over and do it for you, but I've been in Baltimore for 15 years now.
You're right. I like keeping possessions to a minimum. I should fix the Lemond rather than saddle myself with another bike. The Lemond is steel and feels quick off the line. There are a couple bike repair volunteers who come to my lunch spot on the 1st Thursday of the month. And there is also an older guy who has given me his number and offered to help with his tools/stand. I think the brifter needs complete replacement (the options online cost as much as the bike itself) since I took the spring out. Fixing the ball bearings alone would be great. I won't be wasting pedaling power riding through the tightened nuts, and I understand that leaving the bearings as they are is riskier further damage to the wheel.
 
Does anybody have thoughts or comments about Jamis bikes? I'm really interested in the new Renegade S2.
 
Does anybody have thoughts or comments about Jamis bikes? I'm really interested in the new Renegade S2.
Nice bike. There are so many choices now in the gravel/adventure world that all are solid choices that it really just comes down to personal preferences. I would write down what you want in a bike (max tire width, frame material, groupset, 1 by or 2 by, mounting options, budget, weight, etc.) and find the one that fits the most of those preferences and go for it
 
Does anybody have thoughts or comments about Jamis bikes? I'm really interested in the new Renegade S2.
Nice bike. There are so many choices now in the gravel/adventure world that all are solid choices that it really just comes down to personal preferences. I would write down what you want in a bike (max tire width, frame material, groupset, 1 by or 2 by, mounting options, budget, weight, etc.) and find the one that fits the most of those preferences and go for it
I make so many spreadsheets when I do research before buying a bike.
 
Does anybody have thoughts or comments about Jamis bikes? I'm really interested in the new Renegade S2.

I have a Jamis Allegro which is a fitness type bike that I keep at my beach house. It is not my main bike but fits perfectly for what I use it for (mostly riding around town and some medium length rides (~10 mils) ). No compliants from me on build quality or components. My general sense of the brand when I bought it and my experience is that they are perfectly good bikes priced reasonably. I would not go and buy a top end bike from them but if you aren't interested in that then they are a good option that are generally cheaper then more well known brands.
 
It was always going to happen, just a matter of when... I got distracted and didn't strap my bike into the rack, and it fell off in the street at high speed. Nobody hit it. Some scuffing that doesn't seem like a big problem, but the derailleur is bashed up. Dammit.
 
It was always going to happen, just a matter of when... I got distracted and didn't strap my bike into the rack, and it fell off in the street at high speed. Nobody hit it. Some scuffing that doesn't seem like a big problem, but the derailleur is bashed up. Dammit.
The shop got it back to me already, upgraded the derailleur. I'm happy enough with the outcome.
 
It was always going to happen, just a matter of when... I got distracted and didn't strap my bike into the rack, and it fell off in the street at high speed. Nobody hit it. Some scuffing that doesn't seem like a big problem, but the derailleur is bashed up. Dammit.
The shop got it back to me already, upgraded the derailleur. I'm happy enough with the outcome.
That's a crazy fast turnaround. This is busy season in nj as well.
 
It was always going to happen, just a matter of when... I got distracted and didn't strap my bike into the rack, and it fell off in the street at high speed. Nobody hit it. Some scuffing that doesn't seem like a big problem, but the derailleur is bashed up. Dammit.
The shop got it back to me already, upgraded the derailleur. I'm happy enough with the outcome.
That's a crazy fast turnaround. This is busy season in nj as well.
My son dropped it off and made it clear to them that turnaround was more important than cost, which is why they upgraded the derailleur without asking me first. I was planning to ask them about the cost to upgrade it if they had to replace it anyway, so everything worked out as well as it could have.
 
Gears needed tuning so brought it to shop where I bought the bike. Mech took less than 5 minutes. He didn't charge me or even ask if the bike is still in the shop service window. Tried to tip him $5, he resisted but finally took it to add to the shop coffee fund. Anyone tip bike mechanics?
 
Gears needed tuning so brought it to shop where I bought the bike. Mech took less than 5 minutes. He didn't charge me or even ask if the bike is still in the shop service window. Tried to tip him $5, he resisted but finally took it to add to the shop coffee fund. Anyone tip bike mechanics?
Tip, no. Gifts, yes. I’m on a first name basis with everyone in my local shop. Gift cards and food delivery type gifts.
 
So the family all went for a ride on the W&OD path (paved) in northern VA this past weekend. Wife and I both on our gravel bikes, but our son on his pretty heavy Cleary Scout (24” hardtail mountain bike). 10+ miles each way and he did great with no complaining but I know he was struggling - and we’ll be doing more of that kind of ride this year. The 2.25” mountain bike tires have huge rolling resistance, and it’s just heavy.

So I’m going to take on a project I’ve been thinking about for a bit. Rebuilding a ‘90s mtb as a gravel/townie for him. Found an extra small (13”) trek 800 - cro-moly steel, rigid, and 26” wheels. Should be a fun project for him and me these next few weekends. Gonna get it disassembled and cleaned this weekend.
 
Gears needed tuning so brought it to shop where I bought the bike. Mech took less than 5 minutes. He didn't charge me or even ask if the bike is still in the shop service window. Tried to tip him $5, he resisted but finally took it to add to the shop coffee fund. Anyone tip bike mechanics?
Tip, no. Gifts, yes. I’m on a first name basis with everyone in my local shop. Gift cards and food delivery type gifts.
If someone did something for free, yea I would throw them 5 bucks or rummage through my wallet for an old gift card with some bucks on it
 
So the family all went for a ride on the W&OD path (paved) in northern VA this past weekend. Wife and I both on our gravel bikes, but our son on his pretty heavy Cleary Scout (24” hardtail mountain bike). 10+ miles each way and he did great with no complaining but I know he was struggling - and we’ll be doing more of that kind of ride this year. The 2.25” mountain bike tires have huge rolling resistance, and it’s just heavy.

So I’m going to take on a project I’ve been thinking about for a bit. Rebuilding a ‘90s mtb as a gravel/townie for him. Found an extra small (13”) trek 800 - cro-moly steel, rigid, and 26” wheels. Should be a fun project for him and me these next few weekends. Gonna get it disassembled and cleaned this weekend.
Sounds like a good project. Another option is to find a different wheelset for the Cleary with slicks? Maybe a rigid fork too? Might be a pain to have to keep going back and forth though. I do that with my mountain bike (Ti Timberjack) which also doubles as my bikepacking rig and it definitely gets tiresome swapping forks and wheels
 
So the family all went for a ride on the W&OD path (paved) in northern VA this past weekend. Wife and I both on our gravel bikes, but our son on his pretty heavy Cleary Scout (24” hardtail mountain bike). 10+ miles each way and he did great with no complaining but I know he was struggling - and we’ll be doing more of that kind of ride this year. The 2.25” mountain bike tires have huge rolling resistance, and it’s just heavy.

So I’m going to take on a project I’ve been thinking about for a bit. Rebuilding a ‘90s mtb as a gravel/townie for him. Found an extra small (13”) trek 800 - cro-moly steel, rigid, and 26” wheels. Should be a fun project for him and me these next few weekends. Gonna get it disassembled and cleaned this weekend.
Sounds like a good project. Another option is to find a different wheelset for the Cleary with slicks? Maybe a rigid fork too? Might be a pain to have to keep going back and forth though. I do that with my mountain bike (Ti Timberjack) which also doubles as my bikepacking rig and it definitely gets tiresome swapping forks and wheels
Thought about it, but by that point (and spend) - just buy a second bike. N+1 and all. Heck, I’ve got 4 bikes (mom has 3), he can have 2.

Really it’s a bit of nostalgia for me (been a while since I’ve worked with a square taper bottom bracket), and something that he can enjoy and hopefully have a little pride in. I’ll start him with some flat bars, but thinking eventually I can put some drop bars on it (or something like a salsa cowchipper).
 
I bought a new bike today, i got the below for 2100 dollars, but i also purchased a hitch carrier for 600 dollars. I think that gave me some extra negotiating power. It is my first full suspension bike and I went about as cheap as you can go on one.

It will also be my first time riding downhill at a ski resort. Should be fun.

 
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I bought a new bike today, i got the below for 2100 dollars, but i also purchased a hitch carrier for 600 dollars. I think that gave me some extra negotiating power. It is my first full suspension bike and I went about as cheap as you can go on one.

It will also be my first time riding downhill at a ski resort. Should be fun.


I picked up my new bike and i did not buy the bike i originally thought i did, i actually got the below bike for 2,061 according to my receipt. I don't even know what the difference between the two bikes are.

I didn't plan on buying a bike, but have wanted a full suspension bike for years.

 
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I bought a new bike today, i got the below for 2100 dollars, but i also purchased a hitch carrier for 600 dollars. I think that gave me some extra negotiating power. It is my first full suspension bike and I went about as cheap as you can go on one.

It will also be my first time riding downhill at a ski resort. Should be fun.


I picked up my new bike and i did not buy the bike i originally thought i did, i actually got the below bike for 2,061 according to my receipt. I don't even know what the difference between the two bikes are.

I didn't plan on buying a bike, but have wanted a full suspension bike for years.

The biggest difference seems to be the suspension (and I suspect the geometry, but I didn't check) only 120mm on the one you got, which is just fine for downhill.

P.S. I recently got my first full squish MTB too! I've only crashed once so far! I expect to injure myself more going forward :oldunsure:
 
I bought a new bike today, i got the below for 2100 dollars, but i also purchased a hitch carrier for 600 dollars. I think that gave me some extra negotiating power. It is my first full suspension bike and I went about as cheap as you can go on one.

It will also be my first time riding downhill at a ski resort. Should be fun.


I picked up my new bike and i did not buy the bike i originally thought i did, i actually got the below bike for 2,061 according to my receipt. I don't even know what the difference between the two bikes are.

I didn't plan on buying a bike, but have wanted a full suspension bike for years.

The biggest difference seems to be the suspension (and I suspect the geometry, but I didn't check) only 120mm on the one you got, which is just fine for downhill.

P.S. I recently got my first full squish MTB too! I've only crashed once so far! I expect to injure myself more going forward :oldunsure:
That full suspension will make you much more brave and will make you push the limits. I remember one wicked crash in the Pisgah national Forest. My wife made it thru safely. I came walking out with a tacoed front wheel and a cracked helmet. Maybe a slight concussion. Nowadays, at 66, my MTB stays in the garage and I just ride my beach cruiser to the beach. Have fun.
 
I bought a new bike today, i got the below for 2100 dollars, but i also purchased a hitch carrier for 600 dollars. I think that gave me some extra negotiating power. It is my first full suspension bike and I went about as cheap as you can go on one.

It will also be my first time riding downhill at a ski resort. Should be fun.


I picked up my new bike and i did not buy the bike i originally thought i did, i actually got the below bike for 2,061 according to my receipt. I don't even know what the difference between the two bikes are.

I didn't plan on buying a bike, but have wanted a full suspension bike for years.

The main difference will be the suspension travel. The bike you got is 120/120mm front and rear whereas the other one is 170/160. That’s a pretty big difference.

For lift operated downhill a 120/120 or “down country” bike is the absolute lowest travel you’ll want. It will be doable, but you won’t ride as fast as people with more travel. The flip side is that if you plan on pedaling uphill your bike should provide a much more pleasant experience. Everything is a trade off.
 
you can get this one for $600 with the $100 coupon for signing up for the newsletter https://www.poseidonbike.com/products/x-ambition-flatbar?variant=44113675223268
This still a solid cheaper first bike option?

I can get it for about $500
What you really need is this $2600 entry-level bike, anything below that isn't safe to ride over a pebble.

If $500 is your budget, that looks like a good deal to me, and I'd be confident riding trails on it. I've never used Microshift derailleurs, but have heard they're acceptable. In 2022, I put together this chart as a rough comparison between Shimano, SRAM, and microshift - it's rough because nothing's ever really equivalent and nobody agrees on anything:
Derailleurs
Shimano #ShimanoSRAMmicroSHIFT
700​
TourneyMezzo
800​
Tourney
2000​
Altus
3000​
Acera 8/9X3/X4MarvoLT
4000​
AlivioX5
6000​
DeoreX7/SX/NXXLE10
7000​
XTGX/X9XLE11
8000​
SLXX01XCD
XTRXX1Advent/X

Bikesdirect bike is worth comparing at the same price - hydraulic brakes. Walmart bike is not terrible for $400. GT bike is $522 and looks worth comparing.
ETA: REI bike is having a sale today. Weird that they’re still making these 3x7 bikes, but it’s comparable at the same price.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUn5DJYNYE4 is a video about the best 2023-24 MTB bikes below $700. I'm just through the intro but his criteria sound very good.
 
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Thinking about buying one of these, listed on CL. https://www.bikeroar.com/products/giant/xtc-advanced-27-5-3-2014/specs

I don't really "need" a mountain bike since most/almost all of my riding will be on paved trails but there is the occasional gravel path, wooden bridges on one trail that are really rough (front shock helps there), and wooden bridges on another that are really slick if there's the slightest bit of moisture (1 crash there). And there's always the very slight chance I'll hit off road trails again. Current bike is a heavy hybrid, 32/33 lb Fuji traverse. Can't find details on how much the Giant weighs, seen everything from 19-27 lbs, but it would surely be less than the Fuji (hoping it's closer to the 19lb 1 person said) and I'm looking for a lighter bike with flatbar. A road bike would fit my needs/desires (need for speed) mostly but I 1) don't think I want a drop bar and 2) think the skinny tires could be a problem. Should I buy that bike?
 
Thinking about buying one of these, listed on CL. https://www.bikeroar.com/products/giant/xtc-advanced-27-5-3-2014/specs

I don't really "need" a mountain bike since most/almost all of my riding will be on paved trails but there is the occasional gravel path, wooden bridges on one trail that are really rough (front shock helps there), and wooden bridges on another that are really slick if there's the slightest bit of moisture (1 crash there). And there's always the very slight chance I'll hit off road trails again. Current bike is a heavy hybrid, 32/33 lb Fuji traverse. Can't find details on how much the Giant weighs, seen everything from 19-27 lbs, but it would surely be less than the Fuji (hoping it's closer to the 19lb 1 person said) and I'm looking for a lighter bike with flatbar. A road bike would fit my needs/desires (need for speed) mostly but I 1) don't think I want a drop bar and 2) think the skinny tires could be a problem. Should I buy that bike?
How much money?
I wouldn't get a dedicated mountain bike if it was just an occasional gravel path. And while the front suspension will help, I would lean away from that too just for cost and weight savings. Something like the Poseidon bike listed above would be a good choice IMO
 
Thinking about buying one of these, listed on CL. https://www.bikeroar.com/products/giant/xtc-advanced-27-5-3-2014/specs

I don't really "need" a mountain bike since most/almost all of my riding will be on paved trails but there is the occasional gravel path, wooden bridges on one trail that are really rough (front shock helps there), and wooden bridges on another that are really slick if there's the slightest bit of moisture (1 crash there). And there's always the very slight chance I'll hit off road trails again. Current bike is a heavy hybrid, 32/33 lb Fuji traverse. Can't find details on how much the Giant weighs, seen everything from 19-27 lbs, but it would surely be less than the Fuji (hoping it's closer to the 19lb 1 person said) and I'm looking for a lighter bike with flatbar. A road bike would fit my needs/desires (need for speed) mostly but I 1) don't think I want a drop bar and 2) think the skinny tires could be a problem. Should I buy that bike?
How much money?
I wouldn't get a dedicated mountain bike if it was just an occasional gravel path. And while the front suspension will help, I would lean away from that too just for cost and weight savings. Something like the Poseidon bike listed above would be a good choice IMO
Listed at $900 which is pretty good for that bike. Current bike, while not MB, is a hybrid so pretty similar (front shocks). Thinking this one will weigh quite a bit less though. The quality of parts on this bike is much> than the Poseidon IMO.

But yeah, I've been passing over MB for sure due to weight. This one kind of grabbed my attention though. And I think I want to avoid skinny little road bike tires. Which leads to "gravel" bikes. Also, no drop bars...but maybe that'll change after surgery.

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My commuter bike was stolen a couple weeks ago. I’d ridden it for 15 years and it was set up perfectly for me. I mourned for a while, nearly bought a used cargo bike off Craigslist. My buddy just built me one of these at if not below cost. Bruiser

I’ve done a lot of work with him over the years watching his business grow. I just dropped my son off at college with a bike I bought from this guy almost 30 years ago.

He set it up with1x8, full hydraulic, flat bar, 38mm tires and a strong rack mounted on the back. No paint, just a clear coat over the primed grey frame and no decals. It will take some getting used to but I’m pretty happy right now.
 

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