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Andrea alive? Jesse wouldn't have to murder somebody? Jesse wouldn't be tortured for the better part of a year living in cell hole?What was Jesse's future without Walt - petty drug dealing meth head? There a solid chance he ends up just like Spooge.Ok. Now it makes sense.
So when Heisenberg blows up a bus full of schoolkids they can say. '...but but but we had to protect his co-conspirator,,,"
I don't understand what's loony about it - sometimes people need a catalyst to change their lives. So Jesse went through a ton of crap and will have scars from it the rest of his life but maybe that's what he needed to have a future.
Sometimes people get their #### together on their own without having to live in a cage for a year like an animal. It happens.
The thing with Lydia and the ricin was actually the most pleasantly surprising part of this episode for me. She's completely neurotic, and Walt took advantage of that in a way that I found easy to believe. That was poetic justice.
Most people don't need to witness an 8-year-old boy getting blown away to find change. And what future? He was likely arrested an hour later. That nazi lab is going to find the tape where he confesses to about 3 dozen crimes, including the murder of Drew Sharp. And yes, Jesse would be charged with felony murder of that before you say the other kid pulled the trigger.
Jesse was making meth and barely escaped being caught by Hank. The DEA was on the lookout for Captain Cook and Jesse was a moron who drove around with a license plate that read THE CAPN. It was only a matter of time before he ended up in jail or worse.
Most people are not reckless, stupid drug addicted meth dealers.
I'd rather spend a year as a meth slave than in prison where after I get out I'm a felon who can't get a job.
Jesse was making meth and barely escaped being caught by Hank. The DEA was on the lookout for Captain Cook and Jesse was a moron who drove around with a license plate that read THE CAPN. It was only a matter of time before he ended up in jail or worse.
there is no worse than where he ended up.
The same one she always sits at. (I'm perfectly happy to roll with her OCD here and overlook some continuity issues from previous episodes).
Yeah, that was pretty rough stuff. I am guessing it hit people who have kids a little harder.
Yea, his last words to them was giving them a chance to make things right. Like if Walt didn't get screwed over none of this would have happened, so take care of the kids.
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cstu
Honestly, that part still doesn't make sense. "You guys owe me big time, but I spent the first couple of seasons elaborately refusing your unsolicited offers to help me and my family out, and even now I don't want a dime of your money that I'm still sort of laying claim to. But here take this drug money and launder it for me. Professional criminals like Mike have been consistently unable to pull this off, but you two eggheads can probably muddle through."
I don't have kids, but agreed 100%. Very well done.
They are pretty upstanding citizens with a huge charitable organization and loads of cash, it actually will be pretty easy for them to launder unmarked money.
I'm personally not buying that, but I'm more bothered by the fact that if Walt really thinks that the Schwartzes owe him anything, then he could have simply accepted their money all the way back in season one. Or he could have simply demanded that they cut Flynn a check instead of bothering with the money laundering angle.
Anonymous donation to their charity launders it pretty quickly, yes? Even if they report it to the police, no one will claim the money and eventually the charity gets it. Then they give Flynn personal funds. I imagine it could be done.
Seriously? Drug money is pretty much automatically confiscated.
Be a boring thread if everyone just said it was the greatest thing they've ever seen and jerked each other off, wouldn't it?
No one would even think twice if billionaires went around handing out $10k stacks to people. Anyone really going to say "Hey we better investigate those billionaires for money laundering"?
For average people, yes, but not for the ultra rich. Bill Gates walks into a Bentley dealership and buys a car in cash the people there think he's quirky, not a drug dealer.
They aren't going to give $9M all at once to one charity but if they gave $100k in cash with the reasoning that they want to remain anonymous no one would think twice.
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cstu
Rather being a meth slave over going to prison because of job prospects when he got out. Dude, I don't know if you picked up on it, but he was NEVER getting out of his meth slave role if Walt didn't show up.
I must have imagined the part where Walt actually did get him out.
Why do you feel this way? Actually that was a relatively simple apparatus that had little in the way of complexity that would have stopped it from working.
And why does he think Walt felt the need to save Jesse in the first place? He had alreadty killed Jesse once. Thinking that Jesse being inkahoots with the nazis to make his product just added fuel to the 'kill jesse' fire. So there was no 'save Jesse' mindset while prepping for this. Once he saw that Jesse was officially in ##### mode, he took pity on him.
Assuming we know it's a fixed 1yr as tortured meth slave living in a pit and only getting out to be chained to a meth line..... vs normal prison. Not sure how long the prison term would have to be to offset the truly miserable conditions as a meth cook... pretty long stretch though. 10:1 ratio? More?" post="16007113" timestamp="1380547711"]cstu
Rather being a meth slave over going to prison because of job prospects when he got out. Dude, I don't know if you picked up on it, but he was NEVER getting out of his meth slave role if Walt didn't show up.
I must have imagined the part where Walt actually did get him out.
The Career-impact of being a felon being the primary detriment was what struck me the funniest, I guess.
There's a lot of non-technical things that could've gone wrong. Nowhere as neat and clean as Gus's plan to take out Don Eladio. But Walt didn't have the luxury of time to make everything perfect. I don't pick it apart really. Walt had a history of being able to read his enemies and take them out on his terms, this was no different.
Exactly. He was trying to make right for the people he negatively impacted (making peace with skyler, getting walt his money, etc) while getting revenge on those who wronged him. He went into it finish off Jesse but seeing how Jesse ended up, and knowing that was his fault, his paternal instincts kicked in and he chose to save him to try to make it right. IMO.
