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Breaking Bad on AMC (2 Viewers)

Walt blowing up some random #####'s BMW is great :lmao:
I was there for that - lived about 5 blocks away.

ETA: Those first couple of seasons, they shot at lot of exteriors in my hood (Albq's first postwar suburban housing development). I didnt have cable so never watched the show but we were always getting flyers stuck in our doors that we were in the path of a drive-by or sumn. The head of the neighborhood assoc was a poker buddy of mine and he knocks on my door one morning and says "c'mon, they're blowing up the gas pumps at Bobby's Garage". Perfect place for the scene because it had been only an auto shop for a long time and the pumps had been decommissioned for about 20 yrs. Cool shoot but didnt see it on film til i moved back east.

 
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Watching the Sunday replay.   I think this episode is the 1st of Saul.   Such a great character.   I've already watched this series but it has pulled me back in.
The whole cast was on Conan last night. They said during the filming of Saul's first scene when of the crew members yelled out that he wants in on the spinoff. 

 
Jesse turning down the fresh start is an all time facepalm move still
Well actually, he didn't turn it down.  He was ready to leave, until he put two and two together and figured out that Walt poisoned Brock.  Not many people would have shrugged that off and left anyway. 

 
Well actually, he didn't turn it down.  He was ready to leave, until he put two and two together and figured out that Walt poisoned Brock.  Not many people would have shrugged that off and left anyway. 
I know.  He chose revenge over moving on.  That doesn't work out well for him.   The whole rat angle never sat well with me for him.  It makes sense and was set up well in season 4.  I can't criticize the show about it.. It isn't about bad writing, I just feel so bad for the character.

 It is like how a I feel with many people during Last Chance U.  Just take the way out man!

 
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I know.  He chose revenge over moving on.  That doesn't work out well for him.   The whole rat angle never sat well with me for him.  It makes sense and was set up well in season 4.  I can't criticize the show about it.. It isn't about bad writing, I just feel so bad for the character.
Jesse never had the "Not the DEA, never them" stance that Walt always had. 

He let Jane blackmail Walt with the threat of outing him.

He advised Walt at the end of S3 to go to the cops, when Jesse was in hiding following the murder of the two drug dealers. 

And then of course he informed on Walt to Hank in S5.  At that point, he really had no other choice: it was either inform on Walt or let Hank take him to prison for attempted arson. 

 
Just started a re-watch.  Man, it goes dark in a hurry.
I just started my re-watch recently and just finished S2.  I didn't watch the show live until part 2 of the Season 5 came out.  I ended up binging in a few weeks to catch up to when the last episodes started up, so there is a ton of stuff that I forgot from going too fast and only seeing it the once now. 

I gets dark, but there stuff that has me laughing more than I remember the first time around.  Just little things like Hank trying to comfort Sky in season 1 and his awkward hug have me laughing out loud.  I also have been surprised how quickly it goes through the plotlines I remember - Tuco, Danny Trejo, Jane.   I don't remember much besides basic plots of what is coming up in Seasons 3 and 4, so I am looking forward to it.    Like somebody else said on this page, I am enjoying the show a lot more the second time through.  I think the re-watch combined with GoT's last few seasons have me rethinking my TV show rankings.  

All that said, I still think the very ending of S2E13 with the plane was a bit silly and wasted all the great build up scenes they used for cold opens throughout the season.   One of the very few missteps they made in this show, which is saying a lot for 5 seasons.  

 
Been on a Better Call Saul binge. The spinoff is quite good (at least through E2S7).
This is why I started a re-watch.  Still haven't seen an episode of Better Call Saul, so I thought having BB fresh in my head would be fun to do before starting Saul.  

 
keep in mind i am still waiting to see the last 8 episodes.

very good show, but I have to say I am a tad disappointed in walt's arc. it is probably all about expectations, but I was waiting for a breakdown of epic proportions. the episode titled "crawlspace" was nuts and that is when I thought the crap was really going to hit the fan, but he still went back to just showing flashes of Heisenberg.

don't get me wrong- still great acting on display and some of the best episodes of a tv show I have seen in a while. loved the crawlspace episode, train heist, and any time the old guy with the bell showed up, and many others. just started the series about a month ago, and the way people were talking, I guess I was expecting more WTF??? moments.
I think what I am liking a lot more this time around is seeing Walt in a different light.  I think I fell too much for the "good guy dad goes bad" idea that the show was described as.  What's interesting is seeing right from the start what was lurking right at the surface and didn't need a ton of pushing to get unleashed.   

 
I think what I am liking a lot more this time around is seeing Walt in a different light.  I think I fell too much for the "good guy dad goes bad" idea that the show was described as.  What's interesting is seeing right from the start what was lurking right at the surface and didn't need a ton of pushing to get unleashed.   
Next to the production's beautiful use of my hometown for 20 yrs, my favorite thing about BB is how smart goes stoopit more than good goes bad

 
Not Huell...Jesse

Over the course of five incredible seasons, Breaking Bad put its cast of characters through the wringer. But no one suffered quite like Aaron Paul‘s Jesse Pinkman, the meth-dealing loser who lost everything (and everyone) that mattered to him simply because he was unfortunate enough to enter the orbit of Walter White.

And his suffering isn’t over yet. /Film has learned that the newly announced Breaking Bad movie will be a sequel set after the events of the series finale, following Jesse as he blazes a trail away from that horrifying finale.

:popcorn:

 
Not Huell...Jesse

Over the course of five incredible seasons, Breaking Bad put its cast of characters through the wringer. But no one suffered quite like Aaron Paul‘s Jesse Pinkman, the meth-dealing loser who lost everything (and everyone) that mattered to him simply because he was unfortunate enough to enter the orbit of Walter White.

And his suffering isn’t over yet. /Film has learned that the newly announced Breaking Bad movie will be a sequel set after the events of the series finale, following Jesse as he blazes a trail away from that horrifying finale.

:popcorn:
hopefully he sets a Cinnabon on fire!

 
Awesome.  I love all things BB and BCS.  I've always had a soft spot for Jesse.  I feel he's a tortured soul. Good heart.  Some bad choices, but overall a decent and big hearted person.  I always think of that scene after that skank dropped the ATM machine on Spooge's head when He grabs the boy and calls 911.  It would be awesome if this were a feel good movie about Jesse, but it looks like it's about him being hunted, maybe something akin to the fugitive. Whatever it is, I can't wait to see it.  I only hope that in the end, something, anything good happens for this guy

 
I've always had a soft spot for Jesse.  I feel he's a tortured soul. Good heart.  Some bad choices, but overall a decent and big hearted person
He committed cold-blooded, first-degree murder of an innocent man.

That seems to get glossed over when Jesse's character is discussed. I don't see much distinction between Jesse and Gale and Gus with the boxcutter, or Mike on this season's Better Call Saul and the German scientist. 

 
He committed cold-blooded, first-degree murder of an innocent man.

That seems to get glossed over when Jesse's character is discussed. I don't see much distinction between Jesse and Gale and Gus with the boxcutter, or Mike on this season's Better Call Saul and the German scientist. 
I understand.  But life isn't always black and white.  Everyone in walt's business world is a criminal.  There are no innocent lambs.  That said, walt killing Gale was intended as an extension of self defense.  They were in the process of killing him and for walt, it was kill or be killed.  Jesse had to do it because walt was unable to do so.  It was just a matter of time until Gus killed jesse if he hadn't of acted.  But yes, Jesse is a criminal and a self admitted "bad guy".  That's what makes it/him so compelling.  Not all criminals are total scumbags.  Jesse has a good heart but so much has happened to him. He was vulnerable and was taken advantage of by some very bad people along the way.  He made his choices and has shown he is willing to accept the consequences.  But I don't condemn him 100% for who he is in the end.  The world wasn't very good to him.  He deserves a chance to turn his life around, at least IMO

 
He committed cold-blooded, first-degree murder of an innocent man.

That seems to get glossed over when Jesse's character is discussed. I don't see much distinction between Jesse and Gale and Gus with the boxcutter, or Mike on this season's Better Call Saul and the German scientist. 
He did, I just think he’s a sympathetic character because he was manipulated so much by Walt. He was a pompous ### early one and then went on a redemption arc. He didn’t want any of what happened after season 1 to happen, he wanted out but Walt manipulated and tricked him and led him down the path leading to everything he did.  I’ll never say he’s an innocent character, but sympathetic is fair. 

 
As far as the movie, I’ll go watch it day 1 and I’m sure it’ll be good. At the same time, I’m not sure it was necessary. Why not just let him drive off and people can make their own stories up as they go?  I remember before Gandolfini died, they were chatting about a Sopranos movie. Why would you do that?  The ending was great - people need to learn to stop tinkering when they’ve already created a masterpiece. 

 
Silver & Black said:
I understand.  But life isn't always black and white.  Everyone in walt's business world is a criminal.  There are no innocent lambs.  That said, walt killing Gale was intended as an extension of self defense.  They were in the process of killing him and for walt, it was kill or be killed.  Jesse had to do it because walt was unable to do so.  It was just a matter of time until Gus killed jesse if he hadn't of acted.  But yes, Jesse is a criminal and a self admitted "bad guy".  That's what makes it/him so compelling.  Not all criminals are total scumbags.  Jesse has a good heart but so much has happened to him. He was vulnerable and was taken advantage of by some very bad people along the way.  He made his choices and has shown he is willing to accept the consequences.  But I don't condemn him 100% for who he is in the end.  The world wasn't very good to him.  He deserves a chance to turn his life around, at least IMO
Walt is the picture of olskool morality - so inundated with rules & reality that he becomes easily overwhelmed by flights of fancy & ego.

Jesse is the picture of millenial morality - so inundated with flights of fancy & ego that he becomes easily overwhelmed by rules & reality

 
Encyclopedia Brown said:
He committed cold-blooded, first-degree murder of an innocent man.

That seems to get glossed over when Jesse's character is discussed. I don't see much distinction between Jesse and Gale and Gus with the boxcutter, or Mike on this season's Better Call Saul and the German scientist. 
Gale wasn't an innocent man. You don't cook meth on a grand scale like he was doing and get to keep your innocence. He was a criminal in a violent, illegal industry. 

 
Not Huell...Jesse

Over the course of five incredible seasons, Breaking Bad put its cast of characters through the wringer. But no one suffered quite like Aaron Paul‘s Jesse Pinkman, the meth-dealing loser who lost everything (and everyone) that mattered to him simply because he was unfortunate enough to enter the orbit of Walter White.

And his suffering isn’t over yet. /Film has learned that the newly announced Breaking Bad movie will be a sequel set after the events of the series finale, following Jesse as he blazes a trail away from that horrifying finale.

:popcorn:
Gilligan WILL direct and it will run first on Netflix.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/breaking-bad-movie-is-a-sequel-starring-aaron-paul-1159128

 
This whole "movie" thing is just a cover up for them filming scenes for the new crossover season of Better Call Saul, right?

 

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