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'Good said:
MAJOR SPOILER FOR EPISODE 8.

In the final episode, the DEA gets wind of the spider jar and is closing in on Todd. With mere seconds to go before they catch him, and an incinerator lying 43 yards away that will completely destroy the evidence, and a slight northwest wind at 4 mph, Landry lines up a kick of the jar that will prevent the DEA from taking down himself, Heisenberg, Jesse, and Mike.

The kick is up...
They could have Aaron Pierce burn Landry's car...
 
nobody thought Landry was very tough either until he killed that guy.
I don't think he's very tough since the guy he killed was 10, he got jacked up by Jesse and Mike and now he's all weird with the spider
Not 10. The kid was 14. That increases Todd's toughness.
Plus his kill from FNL's. Like Howard Stern said in "Private Parts, a kill is a kill is a kill. Landry has three to his credit.
 
nobody thought Landry was very tough either until he killed that guy.
I don't think he's very tough since the guy he killed was 10, he got jacked up by Jesse and Mike and now he's all weird with the spider
The kid's prints are on the spider jar. Only remaining evidence.
Of course. Should have been destroyed already, no?
first thing i said...why isnt that in the vat of acid?
Probably because they don't want to hurt the spider, there is already enough hurt in their world.
 
As an aside, AMC really screwed up with the eight episode thing. Just kills the momentum. Breaking bad is all about slowly building tension. We are now spoiled and all want to see "big events" happen. This is about the point in many seasons where things really take off. Yet there are only two episodes left.
It is? That description sounds more like The Wire, which is the ultimate slow burn. Breaking Bad has pretty much been one train wreck after another (kinda like The Shield).
 
Am I the only person who is openly rooting for Walt to die?
Not at all. I hope he gets killed and absolutely hate his character. Love watching him though.
It's like you are forced to keep him around but you really don't want to.

I also don't buy that he is so burned over the business deal 20+ years ago that he is above settling for $5m...that would be plenty for him and everyone to get lost and never work another day in their life. He doesn't want that. he wants to get up everyday and have something to do. He thinks it's fun to go to work and pretend it's a 9-5 job. Delusional beyond anything I have ever seen on television.
You dont get it. He was conning jesse , just like he did about the GF , saying things in such a way that jesse starts thinking and ends up doing what walt wanted him to do. Hes been manipulating jesse like that for some time now, its so easy for mr.white to play jesse. Im sure there isnt any company that walt was part of that is earning billions lol;
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'Good said:
MAJOR SPOILER FOR EPISODE 8.

In the final episode, the DEA gets wind of the spider jar and is closing in on Todd. With mere seconds to go before they catch him, and an incinerator lying 43 yards away that will completely destroy the evidence, and a slight northwest wind at 4 mph, Landry lines up a kick of the jar that will prevent the DEA from taking down himself, Heisenberg, Jesse, and Mike.

The kick is up...
:lmao:
 
You dont get it. He was conning jesse , just like he did about the GF , saying things in such a way that jesse starts thinking and ends up doing what walt wanted him to do. Hes been manipulating jesse like that for some time now, its so easy for mr.white to play jesse. Im sure there isnt any company that walt was part of that is earning billions lol;
Seriously?Given that you have a Breaking Bad avatar, I can only hope this was an attempt at sarcasm.

 
Anyone have a link to the opening scene? My dvr started right before Todd said 's### happens huh' and Jesse punched him. I didn't see anything before that.

 
Should be on AMCs website
Didnt see it anywhere over there, so I downloaded the episode form PB and watched the opening scene. Guess Ill make my DVR start recording a couple minutes early from now on, even though thats never happened before. Weird.
"Buyout" is replaying tomorrow night (Thursday morning) at 1:00 AM EST. My DVR is very funny about recording things I've previously recorded (even if I've since deleted it), but if you can make it work, it's coming on again.
 
'Maik Jeaunz said:
'Charlie Frown said:
Yo... What ever happened to truth in advertising
:lol: He killed.
one of the best dinner scenes in tv history haha
Aaron Paul hit it out of the park. One of my favorite scenes of the series.
:goodposting: I've been asking for more Jesse, and that was perfect. I actually watched that scene a few times because it was so hilarious. it was Seinfeld-esque.
Love Aaron Paul but I thought he overacted in that scene. I guess I'm in the minority on that one.
 
'Maik Jeaunz said:
'Charlie Frown said:
Yo... What ever happened to truth in advertising
:lol: He killed.
one of the best dinner scenes in tv history haha
Aaron Paul hit it out of the park. One of my favorite scenes of the series.
:goodposting: I've been asking for more Jesse, and that was perfect. I actually watched that scene a few times because it was so hilarious. it was Seinfeld-esque.
Love Aaron Paul but I thought he overacted in that scene. I guess I'm in the minority on that one.
I think that he did overact, just as Jesse would overact in that tense and awkward situation.
 
It's normal sociopath behavior. Walt doesn't just want to commit the crime, he wants to be acknowledged. Be has foreseen everything important (work and famoly) to build his empire. He isn't doing it in a vacuum. Like many sociopaths he wants to be caught so everyone can see what he did. "#### the fame give me the money, I'm a simple man" does not apply to Walt.
Walt doesn't really fit the profile of a sociopath. More of a megalomaniac.
 
I thought it was a really good episode. It changed the flow by showing some different motivations of behavior. And the tension is building. We are now less then 10 episodes from Walt having hair and a machine gun.
I wonder if we are only two episodes away from that...
 
'Maik Jeaunz said:
'Charlie Frown said:
Yo... What ever happened to truth in advertising
:lol: He killed.
one of the best dinner scenes in tv history haha
Aaron Paul hit it out of the park. One of my favorite scenes of the series.
:goodposting: I've been asking for more Jesse, and that was perfect. I actually watched that scene a few times because it was so hilarious. it was Seinfeld-esque.
Love Aaron Paul but I thought he overacted in that scene. I guess I'm in the minority on that one.
I think that he did overact, just as Jesse would overact in that tense and awkward situation.
It was exactly how Jesse was at the beginning of the season, when a lot of people said he "overacted". But it's just in character. And the awkwardness of his family situation, this family situation, etc, was just perfect. Him drinking that glass of water and looking side to side was classic.
 
Has any show ever so successfully turned a sympathetic sap like Walt in to a despicable villain. ?
I think the show's main thesis is that we all have a villain in us if given the right circumstances. Those circumstances may be everyday modern life.
It's an interesting question though. Chris Moltisanti came to mind right away. He fits the sap-turned-villain label, though I'm not sure if sympathetic ever applied. And he was always basically a crook, so yeah... never mind.I'll keep working on it.
Ben Linus
Although always a villain, he was introduced as portraying a sap, wasn't he?
Scotty BaldwinDaffy Duck
 
Great episode. Here we all were discussing how Todd's going to alter the power dynamic, and he's quickly put to the sidelines and things fall apart in a completely different way than anyone anticipated.It's fairly unforseeable that Walt's going to wriggle out of being locked to the radiator. Even if Mike can figure he can get to the power cord, he probably doesn't even know a makeshift MacGyver blowtorch could be fashioned in such a way. You can't know what you don't know, you know?
Mike is used to dealing with lunkheads. Mike acts and thinks like a thug. He's not prepared to deal with a foe like Walt.
 
I have this weird feeling that the the DEA never actually factors into the threat for Walt. I think they've set up this awesome, amazing tension, but it would be so perfect if it never manifests itself before it all ends. I think it's also pretty clear that he's not using that M60 against the DEA, so that obviously has to do with a threat from another criminal organization... and Declan's crew is the only one we know about other than the cartel which has been conspicuously absent.

Also, given this chart, Walt's full head of hair in the season opener, and his mannerisms harkening back to old, unsure Walt... this is clearly defensive not offensive.

I think Walt's plan is to cook the methlymine and sell to Declan (i.e., use them for distribution). Along the way, I think something happens to some or all of Walt's family that makes him unable/unwilling to cook (just like when Hank was in the hospital). There's a lot of foreshadowing about how Marie and Hank "aren't ever giving her back" and will "keep her forever", and we all know things never go to plan in Breaking Bad.

Skyler has lost it and is ready for war with Walt... maybe she takes Holly and runs away, or maybe she tries to report him to Hank or someone else. Maybe something happens to Flynn with the car (lots of foreshadowing there). Maybe Declan finds out about Hank and goes after him. I don't know.

Then, Declan's crew finds out that Jesse can do the cook, and since Walt won't cook then they kidnap Jesse and make him cook for them. Mike dies defending Jesse when the come for him.

But ultimately, I think there's nothing left of Walt's family (physically, whether dead or gone, because they're already emotionally gone). It's long been said that Junior was Walt's son, and Jesse was Heisenberg's son. And that dinner scene was a transition point, setting that up - and so in the end Walt/Heisenberg is defending the only family he has left - Jesse.

 
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Haven't seen this posted, but thought this was cool:

RT @jon_bois: just learned that the song Walt was whistling in the last Breaking Bad = "Lily of the Valley" by Queen. crazy.

 
IMO, the scene in which Walt explains about the company to Jesse is one of the key scenes in the entire series. It was NOT a con job, as Busted Knuckles suggested. Walt's character is deeply shaped by this experience- he felt incredible bitterness that he sold his shares and became a high school chemistry teacher. The main motivation for his actions throughout the series has been to redeem that mistake and gain control of his environment.

 
I thought it was a really good episode. It changed the flow by showing some different motivations of behavior. And the tension is building. We are now less then 10 episodes from Walt having hair and a machine gun.
I wonder if we are only two episodes away from that...
That would mean almost a year would have to pass in these last 2 episodes
Or something happens in the next 2 episodes and they cut away to almost a year passing with the diner scene and tell a little of the story while moving the timeline linearly to resolve whatever Walt's doing with the big stick.
 
Haven't seen this posted, but thought this was cool:RT @jon_bois: just learned that the song Walt was whistling in the last Breaking Bad = "Lily of the Valley" by Queen. crazy.
Psy-Cho.
I erased this week's episode from the DVR. Can someone go back to confirm this? Doesn't seem like the easiest song in the world to whistle.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYJnqz9H_E0
 
IMO, the scene in which Walt explains about the company to Jesse is one of the key scenes in the entire series. It was NOT a con job, as Busted Knuckles suggested. Walt's character is deeply shaped by this experience- he felt incredible bitterness that he sold his shares and became a high school chemistry teacher. The main motivation for his actions throughout the series has been to redeem that mistake and gain control of his environment.
I think we all agreed a couple page back, maybe BK was hanging on to it being a "fake" monologue like some of Walt's others but I never though he was lying. Walt is going to fall hard, just a matter of time.
 
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IMO, the scene in which Walt explains about the company to Jesse is one of the key scenes in the entire series. It was NOT a con job, as Busted Knuckles suggested. Walt's character is deeply shaped by this experience- he felt incredible bitterness that he sold his shares and became a high school chemistry teacher. The main motivation for his actions throughout the series has been to redeem that mistake and gain control of his environment.
I think we all agreed a couple page back, maybe BK was hanging on to it being a "fake" monologue like some of Walt's others but I never though he was lying. Walt is going to fall hard, just a matter of time.
or maybe the series ends with him ahving vanquished all of his foes, even his own soul
 
Great episode. Here we all were discussing how Todd's going to alter the power dynamic, and he's quickly put to the sidelines and things fall apart in a completely different way than anyone anticipated.It's fairly unforseeable that Walt's going to wriggle out of being locked to the radiator. Even if Mike can figure he can get to the power cord, he probably doesn't even know a makeshift MacGyver blowtorch could be fashioned in such a way. You can't know what you don't know, you know?
Mike is used to dealing with lunkheads. Mike acts and thinks like a thug. He's not prepared to deal with a foe like Walt.
Mike completely understands how unstable and dangerous Walt is. If it wasn't for Gus and then Jesse Mike would have killed Walt a long time ago.
 
Great episode. Here we all were discussing how Todd's going to alter the power dynamic, and he's quickly put to the sidelines and things fall apart in a completely different way than anyone anticipated.It's fairly unforseeable that Walt's going to wriggle out of being locked to the radiator. Even if Mike can figure he can get to the power cord, he probably doesn't even know a makeshift MacGyver blowtorch could be fashioned in such a way. You can't know what you don't know, you know?
Mike is used to dealing with lunkheads. Mike acts and thinks like a thug. He's not prepared to deal with a foe like Walt.
Mike completely understands how unstable and dangerous Walt is. If it wasn't for Gus and then Jesse Mike would have killed Walt a long time ago.
knowing how dangerous he is isn't the same as knowing how to contain him.
 
I have a feeling we're never going to know what the falling out between Walt and Elliot/Gretchen was. We had a chance to learn about it in that scene with Jesse, but Walt says "I won't go into the details..."

And did Hank make a deliberate "ear" joke about Mike? I thought I heard him pronounce his name EARmantraut.

 
I have a feeling we're never going to know what the falling out between Walt and Elliot/Gretchen was. We had a chance to learn about it in that scene with Jesse, but Walt says "I won't go into the details..."

And did Hank make a deliberate "ear" joke about Mike? I thought I heard him pronounce his name EARmantraut.
:lmao: Yes, I believe he did.

 
I have a feeling we're never going to know what the falling out between Walt and Elliot/Gretchen was. We had a chance to learn about it in that scene with Jesse, but Walt says "I won't go into the details..."
In an earlier season there was a flashback where it appeared like Hank and Gretchen were an item. I'm guessing Gretchen left Walt for Elliot, and it royally pissed off Walt that he wanted out of their lives.
 
I have a feeling we're never going to know what the falling out between Walt and Elliot/Gretchen was. We had a chance to learn about it in that scene with Jesse, but Walt says "I won't go into the details..."
In an earlier season there was a flashback where it appeared like Hank and Gretchen were an item. I'm guessing Gretchen left Walt for Elliot, and it royally pissed off Walt that he wanted out of their lives.
:no: In that same episode, they showed a flashback of a just-married Walt and Skyler apartment hunting.

 
I have a feeling we're never going to know what the falling out between Walt and Elliot/Gretchen was. We had a chance to learn about it in that scene with Jesse, but Walt says "I won't go into the details..."
In an earlier season there was a flashback where it appeared like Hank and Gretchen were an item. I'm guessing Gretchen left Walt for Elliot, and it royally pissed off Walt that he wanted out of their lives.
:no: In that same episode, they showed a flashback of a just-married Walt and Skyler apartment hunting.
Okay. My understanding was that those flashbacks were not from the exact same time period. Therefore I don't see your noted flashback and my guess as mutually exclusive.
 
I have a feeling we're never going to know what the falling out between Walt and Elliot/Gretchen was. We had a chance to learn about it in that scene with Jesse, but Walt says "I won't go into the details..."
In an earlier season there was a flashback where it appeared like Hank and Gretchen were an item. I'm guessing Gretchen left Walt for Elliot, and it royally pissed off Walt that he wanted out of their lives.
:no: In that same episode, they showed a flashback of a just-married Walt and Skyler apartment hunting.
Okay. My understanding was that those flashbacks were not from the exact same time period. Therefore I don't see your noted flashback and my guess as mutually exclusive.
Okie doke.
 
Great episode. Here we all were discussing how Todd's going to alter the power dynamic, and he's quickly put to the sidelines and things fall apart in a completely different way than anyone anticipated.It's fairly unforseeable that Walt's going to wriggle out of being locked to the radiator. Even if Mike can figure he can get to the power cord, he probably doesn't even know a makeshift MacGyver blowtorch could be fashioned in such a way. You can't know what you don't know, you know?
Mike is used to dealing with lunkheads. Mike acts and thinks like a thug. He's not prepared to deal with a foe like Walt.
Mike completely understands how unstable and dangerous Walt is. If it wasn't for Gus and then Jesse Mike would have killed Walt a long time ago.
knowing how dangerous he is isn't the same as knowing how to contain him.
Mike knows exactly how to contain Walt. Two to the chest and one to the back of the head. The only reason he hasn't killed Walt is because Gus and then Jesse stopped him and that will be his undoing.Mike was practically begging Gus to do away with Walt and he has been trying to get Jesse to see that Walt needs to go too. In fact Mike is the only one who clearly sees how to deal with Walt.
 

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