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Do we know who sold him the gun and gave him the car at the Denys or did I miss it?
				
			He was settling a score like he had in the past. The difference was he wasn't trying to win by staying alive or out of jail anymore. He just wanted the satisfaction of beating his enemy again.I look at it a little differently. You describe it as an angry thing. I think he finally realized he ####ed up (as he told Skyler) and before he went out he wanted to erase everything he had ####ed up as much as possible. Kill everyone who may carry the business forward, let Jesse go back to his own life, siphon the money through Elliot and Gretchen like it had been earned if he had stayed with Grey Matter.I don't think Walt had any intention of going to jail. He wanted to die. He just wanted to take all of his enemies with him.
Yes.Do we know who sold him the gun and gave him the car at the Denys or did I miss it?
I like to think he took the southern route.I think the writers really dropped the ball in not showing which interstates Walt followed on his trip back to New Mexico. I mean, there are several viable routes.Walt's not smart enough to think of way they can steady it? C'mon manI had a huge problem with the finale. it was the laser pointers. there is no way, NO WAY, that anyone, let alone 2 meth heads could hold a laser pointer that steady from that far a distance. try it some time, you'll see how impossible it is. its easy to do it fixed on a rifle because a rifle is bigger and you get more leverage, but 2 little laser pointers? NO WAY. the dots would've been all over the place and we should've seen Gretchen and Elliot's cats going bonkers over them during the scene.Do they really have to draw up every single scene for people?
Prints on a gun that didn't kill anyone at that crime scene.Jessie's prints were on the gun. He's got a record. Cops will be looking for him.
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Isn't it the gun that Walt used to kill Jack?Prints on a gun that didn't kill anyone at that crime scene.Jessie's prints were on the gun. He's got a record. Cops will be looking for him.
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Well, maybe that. Unsure whether they'd get useable prints though. Lots of people had their hand on that gun at some point.Isn't it the gun that Walt used to kill Jack?Prints on a gun that didn't kill anyone at that crime scene.Jessie's prints were on the gun. He's got a record. Cops will be looking for him.
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The point of laundering money is to make it appear to be coming from a legitimate, legal income source. For Walt Jr, having that money come from the Grey Matter people - who are billionaires - legitimizes it.Anonymously giving the money away doesn't launder it any more than burning it in the fireplace does.Anonymous donation to their charity launders it pretty quickly, yes?
The point of laundering money is that you get to keep it.
Did cstu need a break or something?Had some time let the finale marinate and it was definitely the suck for Breaking Bad standards. Down there with The Fly episode.
Weren't a fan of the Albuquerque leg of the Redemption/Closure tour?Had some time let the finale marinate and it was definitely the suck for Breaking Bad standards. Down there with The Fly episode.
What? It was the gun that killed Jack. Walt shot Jack, dropped it on the ground, and slid it to Jesse, who then picked it up.Prints on a gun that didn't kill anyone at that crime scene.Jessie's prints were on the gun. He's got a record. Cops will be looking for him.
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RevDawg said:Was the Jesse carpentry scene a dream or a flash forward?
Homer J Simpson said:After watching it again and sleeping on it, I withdraw most of my complaints.
I was pretty hammered last night and in that state I can sometimes lash out at those I care about the most. I'm sorry, Breaking Bad. I love you.
 
 Yeah, getting prints off that thing would be nearly impossible.Well, maybe that. Unsure whether they'd get useable prints though. Lots of people had their hand on that gun at some point.Isn't it the gun that Walt used to kill Jack?Prints on a gun that didn't kill anyone at that crime scene.Jessie's prints were on the gun. He's got a record. Cops will be looking for him.
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I get that the keys could remote control the arm the gun was swiveling on,but how was the trigger depressed so the gun fired too?
Walts wedding ring tied to a string
Unless this guy is running the ABQ police department I'm pretty sure they would still dust for prints, including the lab where Jesse's would be all over.Prints on a gun that didn't kill anyone at that crime scene.The car with the machine gun will be tied to Walt who was found dead in the lab.Jessie's prints were on the gun. He's got a record. Cops will be looking for him.
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Remember Hank was the only one who wanted to keep this investigation ongoing after it had been closed. The police will find a bunch of dead bad guys who they can tie to the meth and will leave it at that IMO. The kingpin is dead.
Wouldn't Jesse's prints be all over the meth lab equipment, while Walt's wouldn't be (except for that one container he touched)? At the very least you'd think they'd be concerned that somebody involved in the production of the blue meth was still at large.Even if the cops go looking for Jesse how hard will they really look? They have no idea of his involvement with any of this. The only ones who knew are both dead.
Walt is the one they wanted. They found him at the scene of a crime dead along with a lot of other dead bodies. They also know now where Hank and Gomey's bodies are. As far as they know a lot of bad guys killed each other and the person they believe is responsible for Hank and Gomey being shot is dead too.
Case closed.
They don't know if he was involved and like I said I'm not sure they'd care all that much. To the best of their knowledge Walt was the kingpin and now that he's dead I could see them concluding this is all over.Wouldn't Jesse's prints be all over the meth lab equipment, while Walt's wouldn't be (except for that one container he touched)? At the very least you'd think they'd be concerned that somebody involved in the production of the blue meth was still at large.Even if the cops go looking for Jesse how hard will they really look? They have no idea of his involvement with any of this. The only ones who knew are both dead.
Walt is the one they wanted. They found him at the scene of a crime dead along with a lot of other dead bodies. They also know now where Hank and Gomey's bodies are. As far as they know a lot of bad guys killed each other and the person they believe is responsible for Hank and Gomey being shot is dead too.
Case closed.
They weren't supposed to. They were supposed to be the pure standard evil criminals. They had their own sort of amoral code. Heck, they had all that money and still engaged in all the same stuff - made me think of the scene from Dark Knight where Alfred describes the thief who stole rubies for sport. And Todd was the perfect microcosm of someone essentially "broken bad" probably from birth. They were absolutely necessary for the spectrum upon which we were to view Walt and his "bad" behavior. Gus, Crazy 8, Jesse, Lydia, etc. All differently "bad" and shaped the lense upon which we viewed Walt.I felt a little let down by this final season. Show certainly peaked in season 4, IMO. I preferred Jessie when he wasn't the tortured soul and a shell of his former self. Also the Nazis as the "bad guys" didn't come close to the complex character Gus was.
Had some time let the finale marinate and it was definitely the suck by Breaking Bad standards. Down there with The Fly episode.
 
 that's a good one.Do we know who sold him the gun and gave him the car at the Denys or did I miss it?
1) They wear gloves when they cookWouldn't Jesse's prints be all over the meth lab equipment, while Walt's wouldn't be (except for that one container he touched)? At the very least you'd think they'd be concerned that somebody involved in the production of the blue meth was still at large.Even if the cops go looking for Jesse how hard will they really look? They have no idea of his involvement with any of this. The only ones who knew are both dead.
Walt is the one they wanted. They found him at the scene of a crime dead along with a lot of other dead bodies. They also know now where Hank and Gomey's bodies are. As far as they know a lot of bad guys killed each other and the person they believe is responsible for Hank and Gomey being shot is dead too.
Case closed.
at first. then not so much.GG grecoNever mind.Felina?
I don't think so. I think Todd knew what happened, it's just that Todd knows Mr. White as Mr. White. Also, the only emotion we've ever seen from Todd is a schoolboy crush. Killing, of anyone, really isn't a thing to Todd. Todd probably had no issues to what Walt did, even in that moment, but it was totally an acceptable move in the "game."Todd hadn't yet realized Walt was responsible. The gun was inside the trunk and not visible from the window, so Todd hadn't yet put it together that Walt brought it in.One thing I havent seen commented on anywhere: Walt has just killed everyone in his family (literal, figurative) and Todd still looks out the window and starts his next sentence with respect, "Mr. White..." before getting choked out. Had me
They don't know if he was involved and like I said I'm not sure they'd care all that much. To the best of their knowledge Walt was the kingpin and now that he's dead I could see them concluding this is all over.Wouldn't Jesse's prints be all over the meth lab equipment, while Walt's wouldn't be (except for that one container he touched)? At the very least you'd think they'd be concerned that somebody involved in the production of the blue meth was still at large.Even if the cops go looking for Jesse how hard will they really look? They have no idea of his involvement with any of this. The only ones who knew are both dead.
Walt is the one they wanted. They found him at the scene of a crime dead along with a lot of other dead bodies. They also know now where Hank and Gomey's bodies are. As far as they know a lot of bad guys killed each other and the person they believe is responsible for Hank and Gomey being shot is dead too.
Case closed.
Besides, as was posted already the point of all this isn't what happens next to/for Jesse. It's all about him being free. He's no longer a prisoner of the Nazi's or of Walt. That's the gift Walt gave him and one could say it's the only real gift he ever gave him.
 
 It seems like it's been forever since we've seen a cook episode, but I remember them always being heavily geared up and meticulous about cleaning up afterwards. if Jesse kept those same habits, it may be hard to find his prints.Wouldn't Jesse's prints be all over the meth lab equipment, while Walt's wouldn't be (except for that one container he touched)? At the very least you'd think they'd be concerned that somebody involved in the production of the blue meth was still at large.Even if the cops go looking for Jesse how hard will they really look? They have no idea of his involvement with any of this. The only ones who knew are both dead.
Walt is the one they wanted. They found him at the scene of a crime dead along with a lot of other dead bodies. They also know now where Hank and Gomey's bodies are. As far as they know a lot of bad guys killed each other and the person they believe is responsible for Hank and Gomey being shot is dead too.
Case closed.
Didn't they show us a scene in this very last episode where he was working in the lab without gloves?1) They wear gloves when they cookWouldn't Jesse's prints be all over the meth lab equipment, while Walt's wouldn't be (except for that one container he touched)? At the very least you'd think they'd be concerned that somebody involved in the production of the blue meth was still at large.Even if the cops go looking for Jesse how hard will they really look? They have no idea of his involvement with any of this. The only ones who knew are both dead.
Walt is the one they wanted. They found him at the scene of a crime dead along with a lot of other dead bodies. They also know now where Hank and Gomey's bodies are. As far as they know a lot of bad guys killed each other and the person they believe is responsible for Hank and Gomey being shot is dead too.
Case closed.
2) Real life ain't CSI.
3) Even if they got Jesse's prints, are we clear they are even in CODIS? They likely are, but it's possible they don't even have a comparison to make - after all, since Hank and Gomey never told anyone they had Jesse, any new law enforcement would have no reason to think Jesse is involved.
The BB police department did that MULTIPLE times in the series. Hank was the only one interested in following the clues and he was basically forced to stop by his boss. They walk out of this with $70M in cash, a bunch of lab equipment, a dead fugitive, location of the bodies of two missing DEA agents and whatever bonus they get for the Aryans. Case will be closed.They don't know if he was involved and like I said I'm not sure they'd care all that much. To the best of their knowledge Walt was the kingpin and now that he's dead I could see them concluding this is all over.Wouldn't Jesse's prints be all over the meth lab equipment, while Walt's wouldn't be (except for that one container he touched)? At the very least you'd think they'd be concerned that somebody involved in the production of the blue meth was still at large.Even if the cops go looking for Jesse how hard will they really look? They have no idea of his involvement with any of this. The only ones who knew are both dead.
Walt is the one they wanted. They found him at the scene of a crime dead along with a lot of other dead bodies. They also know now where Hank and Gomey's bodies are. As far as they know a lot of bad guys killed each other and the person they believe is responsible for Hank and Gomey being shot is dead too.
Case closed.
Besides, as was posted already the point of all this isn't what happens next to/for Jesse. It's all about him being free. He's no longer a prisoner of the Nazi's or of Walt. That's the gift Walt gave him and one could say it's the only real gift he ever gave him.
I can't see it being cased closed. There's the dvd evidence the police will find, he's a known drug dealer from way back, they've got absolutely no-one alive besides him to pin anything on or clear up what happened. Law enforcement isn't just going to shrug its shoulders at that point and let him go. His only likely outcomes are leaving the country or getting caught.
Except that when Todd went and got him, he was "finishing up a batch," in Todd's words, so there would have been no clean-up that time.It seems like it's been forever since we've seen a cook episode, but I remember them always being heavily geared up and meticulous about cleaning up afterwards. if Jesse kept those same habits, it may be hard to find his prints.Wouldn't Jesse's prints be all over the meth lab equipment, while Walt's wouldn't be (except for that one container he touched)? At the very least you'd think they'd be concerned that somebody involved in the production of the blue meth was still at large.Even if the cops go looking for Jesse how hard will they really look? They have no idea of his involvement with any of this. The only ones who knew are both dead.
Walt is the one they wanted. They found him at the scene of a crime dead along with a lot of other dead bodies. They also know now where Hank and Gomey's bodies are. As far as they know a lot of bad guys killed each other and the person they believe is responsible for Hank and Gomey being shot is dead too.
Case closed.
You think Marie has some kind of ill will towards Jesse? He was helping them catch Walt. She blames Walt for Hank's death, not Jesse. As far as she's concerned, he's not some loose end that can't be forgotten.Didn't they show us a scene in this very last episode where he was working in the lab without gloves?1) They wear gloves when they cookWouldn't Jesse's prints be all over the meth lab equipment, while Walt's wouldn't be (except for that one container he touched)? At the very least you'd think they'd be concerned that somebody involved in the production of the blue meth was still at large.Even if the cops go looking for Jesse how hard will they really look? They have no idea of his involvement with any of this. The only ones who knew are both dead.
Walt is the one they wanted. They found him at the scene of a crime dead along with a lot of other dead bodies. They also know now where Hank and Gomey's bodies are. As far as they know a lot of bad guys killed each other and the person they believe is responsible for Hank and Gomey being shot is dead too.
Case closed.
2) Real life ain't CSI.
3) Even if they got Jesse's prints, are we clear they are even in CODIS? They likely are, but it's possible they don't even have a comparison to make - after all, since Hank and Gomey never told anyone they had Jesse, any new law enforcement would have no reason to think Jesse is involved.
Jesse's been arrested a few times already, not sure if he'd been convicted, but I imagine they got his prints on file at one time or another.
Besides that, Marie knew his story, he also was the last person she knew to be with Hank before Hank got killed.
You really think they're just going to let him get away?
He was the last guy known to be with Hank and Gomez before they were executed - there's no way they just let him vanish with no effort.The BB police department did that MULTIPLE times in the series. Hank was the only one interested in following the clues and he was basically forced to stop by his boss. They walk out of this with $70M in cash, a bunch of lab equipment, a dead fugitive, location of the bodies of two missing DEA agents and whatever bonus they get for the Aryans. Case will be closed.They don't know if he was involved and like I said I'm not sure they'd care all that much. To the best of their knowledge Walt was the kingpin and now that he's dead I could see them concluding this is all over.Wouldn't Jesse's prints be all over the meth lab equipment, while Walt's wouldn't be (except for that one container he touched)? At the very least you'd think they'd be concerned that somebody involved in the production of the blue meth was still at large.Even if the cops go looking for Jesse how hard will they really look? They have no idea of his involvement with any of this. The only ones who knew are both dead.
Walt is the one they wanted. They found him at the scene of a crime dead along with a lot of other dead bodies. They also know now where Hank and Gomey's bodies are. As far as they know a lot of bad guys killed each other and the person they believe is responsible for Hank and Gomey being shot is dead too.
Case closed.
Besides, as was posted already the point of all this isn't what happens next to/for Jesse. It's all about him being free. He's no longer a prisoner of the Nazi's or of Walt. That's the gift Walt gave him and one could say it's the only real gift he ever gave him.
I can't see it being cased closed. There's the dvd evidence the police will find, he's a known drug dealer from way back, they've got absolutely no-one alive besides him to pin anything on or clear up what happened. Law enforcement isn't just going to shrug its shoulders at that point and let him go. His only likely outcomes are leaving the country or getting caught.
Known by who?He was the last guy known to be with Hank and Gomez before they were executed - there's no way they just let him vanish with no effort.The BB police department did that MULTIPLE times in the series. Hank was the only one interested in following the clues and he was basically forced to stop by his boss. They walk out of this with $70M in cash, a bunch of lab equipment, a dead fugitive, location of the bodies of two missing DEA agents and whatever bonus they get for the Aryans. Case will be closed.They don't know if he was involved and like I said I'm not sure they'd care all that much. To the best of their knowledge Walt was the kingpin and now that he's dead I could see them concluding this is all over.Wouldn't Jesse's prints be all over the meth lab equipment, while Walt's wouldn't be (except for that one container he touched)? At the very least you'd think they'd be concerned that somebody involved in the production of the blue meth was still at large.Even if the cops go looking for Jesse how hard will they really look? They have no idea of his involvement with any of this. The only ones who knew are both dead.
Walt is the one they wanted. They found him at the scene of a crime dead along with a lot of other dead bodies. They also know now where Hank and Gomey's bodies are. As far as they know a lot of bad guys killed each other and the person they believe is responsible for Hank and Gomey being shot is dead too.
Case closed.
Besides, as was posted already the point of all this isn't what happens next to/for Jesse. It's all about him being free. He's no longer a prisoner of the Nazi's or of Walt. That's the gift Walt gave him and one could say it's the only real gift he ever gave him.
I can't see it being cased closed. There's the dvd evidence the police will find, he's a known drug dealer from way back, they've got absolutely no-one alive besides him to pin anything on or clear up what happened. Law enforcement isn't just going to shrug its shoulders at that point and let him go. His only likely outcomes are leaving the country or getting caught.
Marie.Known by who?He was the last guy known to be with Hank and Gomez before they were executed - there's no way they just let him vanish with no effort.The BB police department did that MULTIPLE times in the series. Hank was the only one interested in following the clues and he was basically forced to stop by his boss. They walk out of this with $70M in cash, a bunch of lab equipment, a dead fugitive, location of the bodies of two missing DEA agents and whatever bonus they get for the Aryans. Case will be closed.They don't know if he was involved and like I said I'm not sure they'd care all that much. To the best of their knowledge Walt was the kingpin and now that he's dead I could see them concluding this is all over.Wouldn't Jesse's prints be all over the meth lab equipment, while Walt's wouldn't be (except for that one container he touched)? At the very least you'd think they'd be concerned that somebody involved in the production of the blue meth was still at large.Even if the cops go looking for Jesse how hard will they really look? They have no idea of his involvement with any of this. The only ones who knew are both dead.
Walt is the one they wanted. They found him at the scene of a crime dead along with a lot of other dead bodies. They also know now where Hank and Gomey's bodies are. As far as they know a lot of bad guys killed each other and the person they believe is responsible for Hank and Gomey being shot is dead too.
Case closed.
Besides, as was posted already the point of all this isn't what happens next to/for Jesse. It's all about him being free. He's no longer a prisoner of the Nazi's or of Walt. That's the gift Walt gave him and one could say it's the only real gift he ever gave him.
I can't see it being cased closed. There's the dvd evidence the police will find, he's a known drug dealer from way back, they've got absolutely no-one alive besides him to pin anything on or clear up what happened. Law enforcement isn't just going to shrug its shoulders at that point and let him go. His only likely outcomes are leaving the country or getting caught.
Wasn't he brought in a couple of times early in the series? I don't remember all of the details as it's been a couple years.1) They wear gloves when they cookWouldn't Jesse's prints be all over the meth lab equipment, while Walt's wouldn't be (except for that one container he touched)? At the very least you'd think they'd be concerned that somebody involved in the production of the blue meth was still at large.Even if the cops go looking for Jesse how hard will they really look? They have no idea of his involvement with any of this. The only ones who knew are both dead.
Walt is the one they wanted. They found him at the scene of a crime dead along with a lot of other dead bodies. They also know now where Hank and Gomey's bodies are. As far as they know a lot of bad guys killed each other and the person they believe is responsible for Hank and Gomey being shot is dead too.
Case closed.
2) Real life ain't CSI.
3) Even if they got Jesse's prints, are we clear they are even in CODIS? They likely are, but it's possible they don't even have a comparison to make - after all, since Hank and Gomey never told anyone they had Jesse, any new law enforcement would have no reason to think Jesse is involved.
Even though Jessie was the last one to hold it?Yeah, getting prints off that thing would be nearly impossible.Well, maybe that. Unsure whether they'd get useable prints though. Lots of people had their hand on that gun at some point.Isn't it the gun that Walt used to kill Jack?Prints on a gun that didn't kill anyone at that crime scene.Jessie's prints were on the gun. He's got a record. Cops will be looking for him.
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Precisely.I don't think it really matters what happens to Jesse from here. The important thing is that he survived and he's going to get another shot at life. Whether that means living as a fugitive or doing a few years in prison, it doesn't matter.
All it takes is once. He was brought in after the money flinging escapade.Wasn't he brought in a couple of times early in the series? I don't remember all of the details as it's been a couple years.1) They wear gloves when they cookWouldn't Jesse's prints be all over the meth lab equipment, while Walt's wouldn't be (except for that one container he touched)? At the very least you'd think they'd be concerned that somebody involved in the production of the blue meth was still at large.Even if the cops go looking for Jesse how hard will they really look? They have no idea of his involvement with any of this. The only ones who knew are both dead.
Walt is the one they wanted. They found him at the scene of a crime dead along with a lot of other dead bodies. They also know now where Hank and Gomey's bodies are. As far as they know a lot of bad guys killed each other and the person they believe is responsible for Hank and Gomey being shot is dead too.
Case closed.
2) Real life ain't CSI.
3) Even if they got Jesse's prints, are we clear they are even in CODIS? They likely are, but it's possible they don't even have a comparison to make - after all, since Hank and Gomey never told anyone they had Jesse, any new law enforcement would have no reason to think Jesse is involved.
It's just discussionI don't think it really matters what happens to Jesse from here. The important thing is that he survived and he's going to get another shot at life. Whether that means living as a fugitive or doing a few years in prison, it doesn't matter.
 
 Whether she cares or not (and honestly I can't see how she wouldn't), is probably irrelevant as she probably told people working the case everything she knew once they started following up on the disappearance/death of 2 DEA agents.Marie doesn't care about anything other than Walt being dead. As far as she knew Jesse was working with Hank so if he got away I doubt she'll care at all.
I agree. It's not part of the story line at all.I don't think it really matters what happens to Jesse from here. The important thing is that he survived and he's going to get another shot at life. Whether that means living as a fugitive or doing a few years in prison, it doesn't matter.
Yup. She got what she wanted - Walt's dead. I don't think she cares at all what happens to Jesse since there's no reason for her to believe Jesse had anything to do with Hank's death. As far as she's concerned that's all on Walt.For all Marie knew, Jesse was as dead and missing as Hank was. Finding Hank's body and not Jesse's isn't going to be some moral conflict for her that she now wants Jesse's body dead or alive too.
