I loved the exchange just prior to that:"Here's the thing Mike, Michael?"...YouTube keeps nuking all of my BB uploads due to copyright infringement. Hopefully it will stay up at Vimeo for awhile.
Of all the phenomenal scenes in this show, this one is my favorite. Mike is my hero.
"Forget your handcuffs?"
"Mr. Ehrmantraut"
"Here's the thing Mike"
That little exchange really defines both of them, great video RN
Whoever had the thought to film that was very smart. Really cool.Premier said:Phillip Adkins
51 minutes ago
When cranston put his hand on paul's arm, i really felt like it was Walter White gently congratulating Jesse Pinkman on making it out alive
So did you give your nephew the joint back?Remember when Jesse went home, and his parents were concerned that he would be a bad influence on his little brother? That's how I felt today. Went to my sister's house for Thanksgiving. She and my BIL are both wonderful people, but they are out of my league in terms of sophistication. They are both doctors, and they are SILLY wealthy. Gorgeous,150-year-old Victorian home, new car every six months, private schools, etc.
Meanwhile, I enjoy getting drunk, smelling my own farts and watching Euro porn.
My 14-year-old nephew is a master musician already. Piano, trumpet, clarinet.... you name it. Excuse the double-negative, but I've never NOT seen him wearing a tie, no matter what the occasion. When I send birthday presents to him, he never calls or emails to say thank you. Puzzling, because he is the most polite, proper kid in person. It's a near-certainty that my sister TELLS him not to call me. Some of my uncouthness may seep through the phone. Starting to get the picture?
It makes for a slightly uncomfortable day. But it so reminded me of Jesse feeling like an outsider when he went back to visit his family.
He was always smart, just unmotivated. As the series goes along and he learns from Walter and Mike, he becomes more self-confident and his intelligence starts to show a little more.What I want to know is, when did Jesse get so smart? Okay, he was always a bit street smart, but in Season 5, he suddenly conjured out of thin air two great plans - the magnets, and then how to rob the train without anyone ever knowing - while Walt and Mike sat there arguing. It just seemed odd that Jesse all of a sudden was the smart one who had this genius, infallible plan...twice.
Totally agree, Jesse was intelligent, just not book smart - or motivated as you noted. Nothing he did in the series seemed out of character to me. The magnets idea was a perfect example, he was smart enough to think of a relatively simple concept, but had no idea how to implement it or plan it or actually make it happen - that was Walter's area of expertise, a good microcosm of their symbiotic relationship throughout the series.He was always smart, just unmotivated. As the series goes along and he learns from Walter and Mike, he becomes more self-confident and his intelligence starts to show a little more.What I want to know is, when did Jesse get so smart? Okay, he was always a bit street smart, but in Season 5, he suddenly conjured out of thin air two great plans - the magnets, and then how to rob the train without anyone ever knowing - while Walt and Mike sat there arguing. It just seemed odd that Jesse all of a sudden was the smart one who had this genius, infallible plan...twice.
I think Gus was either aware that they were using kids or he just didn't care. He didn't mind when the kid got killed.One thing that kind of bugs me:
Why was Gus so infuriated over the death of two random drug dealers? Were they the only drug dealers in ABQ? Were they special in some way? And how did Gus not know they were using kids? I thought the man was careful!
I know this may be nitpicky, but it bugs me.
But Gus got vicious when Walt asked if he ordered the hit on the kid.I think Gus was either aware that they were using kids or he just didn't care. He didn't mind when the kid got killed.One thing that kind of bugs me:
Why was Gus so infuriated over the death of two random drug dealers? Were they the only drug dealers in ABQ? Were they special in some way? And how did Gus not know they were using kids? I thought the man was careful!
I know this may be nitpicky, but it bugs me.
So? That means nothing.But Gus got vicious when Walt asked if he ordered the hit on the kid.I think Gus was either aware that they were using kids or he just didn't care. He didn't mind when the kid got killed.One thing that kind of bugs me:
Why was Gus so infuriated over the death of two random drug dealers? Were they the only drug dealers in ABQ? Were they special in some way? And how did Gus not know they were using kids? I thought the man was careful!
I know this may be nitpicky, but it bugs me.
Could have been Gus putting up a smokescreen, I'll admit.So? That means nothing.But Gus got vicious when Walt asked if he ordered the hit on the kid.I think Gus was either aware that they were using kids or he just didn't care. He didn't mind when the kid got killed.One thing that kind of bugs me:
Why was Gus so infuriated over the death of two random drug dealers? Were they the only drug dealers in ABQ? Were they special in some way? And how did Gus not know they were using kids? I thought the man was careful!
I know this may be nitpicky, but it bugs me.
Doesn't mean the genius chemist gets to #### in your mouth whenever he feels like it.Could have been Gus putting up a smokescreen, I'll admit.So? That means nothing.But Gus got vicious when Walt asked if he ordered the hit on the kid.I think Gus was either aware that they were using kids or he just didn't care. He didn't mind when the kid got killed.One thing that kind of bugs me:
Why was Gus so infuriated over the death of two random drug dealers? Were they the only drug dealers in ABQ? Were they special in some way? And how did Gus not know they were using kids? I thought the man was careful!
I know this may be nitpicky, but it bugs me.
I also forgot that, immediately after, Gale started being groomed for the #1 slot in the lab. But still, the value of a genius chemist is far more than two random drug dealers, IMO.
Gale was always the #1 choice, it was only by Gale's desire to find out who was creating a meth even purer than Gale's that he convinced Gus to bring Walt into the operation to begin with.Could have been Gus putting up a smokescreen, I'll admit.So? That means nothing.But Gus got vicious when Walt asked if he ordered the hit on the kid.I think Gus was either aware that they were using kids or he just didn't care. He didn't mind when the kid got killed.One thing that kind of bugs me:
Why was Gus so infuriated over the death of two random drug dealers? Were they the only drug dealers in ABQ? Were they special in some way? And how did Gus not know they were using kids? I thought the man was careful!
I know this may be nitpicky, but it bugs me.
I also forgot that, immediately after, Gale started being groomed for the #1 slot in the lab. But still, the value of a genius chemist is far more than two random drug dealers, IMO.
Walt never asked him that.Brady Marino said:But Gus got vicious when Walt asked if he ordered the hit on the kid.IvanKaramazov said:I think Gus was either aware that they were using kids or he just didn't care. He didn't mind when the kid got killed.Brady Marino said:One thing that kind of bugs me:
Why was Gus so infuriated over the death of two random drug dealers? Were they the only drug dealers in ABQ? Were they special in some way? And how did Gus not know they were using kids? I thought the man was careful!
I know this may be nitpicky, but it bugs me.
He was probably thinking Andrea and Brock were in danger just from the crew knowing about them. He's sitting there in a hole thinking he has to do something or they'll all be dead before long.Das Boot said:One major flaw I didn't like was that Jesse would have known that if he tried to escape the compound and got caught, Jack and crew would retaliate against Andrea and Brock, and he never would have taken a chance that that would happen. The threat of that was very explicit with the picture they gave him of Andrea and Brock.
But it can be explained by Jesse being beaten down mentally and not thinking clearly, so it's not an error - just an unlikely scenario imo.
That's definitely possible, given how stressful his living conditions were it's easy to imagine any state of mind for Jesse.He was probably thinking Andrea and Brock were in danger just from the crew knowing about them. He's sitting there in a hole thinking he has to do something or they'll all be dead before long.Das Boot said:One major flaw I didn't like was that Jesse would have known that if he tried to escape the compound and got caught, Jack and crew would retaliate against Andrea and Brock, and he never would have taken a chance that that would happen. The threat of that was very explicit with the picture they gave him of Andrea and Brock.
But it can be explained by Jesse being beaten down mentally and not thinking clearly, so it's not an error - just an unlikely scenario imo.
Seriously wouldn't you just make a huge Bomb out of the chemicals and just blow the entire place to hell if Jessie had thought that Andrea and Brock were in danger.That's definitely possible, given how stressful his living conditions were it's easy to imagine any state of mind for Jesse.He was probably thinking Andrea and Brock were in danger just from the crew knowing about them. He's sitting there in a hole thinking he has to do something or they'll all be dead before long.One major flaw I didn't like was that Jesse would have known that if he tried to escape the compound and got caught, Jack and crew would retaliate against Andrea and Brock, and he never would have taken a chance that that would happen. The threat of that was very explicit with the picture they gave him of Andrea and Brock.
But it can be explained by Jesse being beaten down mentally and not thinking clearly, so it's not an error - just an unlikely scenario imo.
But if he was still thinking clearly, he would have realized that his only value to them was his meth cooking skills, and he already knew they'd kill him as soon as they didn't need that anymore, and there would be no reason for them to do anything to Andrea and Brock after killing Jesse.
So his only real reason to escape was a "selfish" one, i.e. save his own life and get out of the hellish situation he was in, but at the risk of failing and bringing harm to Andrea and Brock, exactly what happened.
Perfectly understandable, but I really question whether Jesse would have taken the risk of escaping and failing.
Stuff like this happened with Skylar and Saul as well. Saul went from genius to idiot cant conjure a plan lawyer and Skylar went into genius mode as well when she wanted the car wash.What I want to know is, when did Jesse get so smart? Okay, he was always a bit street smart, but in Season 5, he suddenly conjured out of thin air two great plans - the magnets, and then how to rob the train without anyone ever knowing - while Walt and Mike sat there arguing. It just seemed odd that Jesse all of a sudden was the smart one who had this genius, infallible plan...twice.
It's easier to make plans when you're in control and when the preservation instinct kicks in you can become more clever.Stuff like this happened with Skylar and Saul as well. Saul went from genius to idiot cant conjure a plan lawyer and Skylar went into genius mode as well when she wanted the car wash.What I want to know is, when did Jesse get so smart? Okay, he was always a bit street smart, but in Season 5, he suddenly conjured out of thin air two great plans - the magnets, and then how to rob the train without anyone ever knowing - while Walt and Mike sat there arguing. It just seemed odd that Jesse all of a sudden was the smart one who had this genius, infallible plan...twice.
Watching someone engage in self destructive behavior is interesting but not as entertaining to me.Great series. Didn't like it as much as Lost
You could argue that the 1st season of Lost was at least in the same zip code as Breaking Bad, but I'm still one of those that still feels insulted over where the series went (even though I enjoyed the Desmond Hume and Ben Linus characters).Watching someone engage in self destructive behavior is interesting but not as entertaining to me.Great series. Didn't like it as much as Lost
I can see why people thought it went to far. But I'm one that can overlook the context of a show as long as it causes the characters to do interesting things.You could argue that the 1st season of Lost was at least in the same zip code as Breaking Bad, but I'm still one of those that still feels insulted over where the series went (even though I enjoyed the Desmond Hume and Ben Linus characters).Watching someone engage in self destructive behavior is interesting but not as entertaining to me.Great series. Didn't like it as much as Lost
"magnets" is not the stroke of genius some make it out to be. Jesse always had the simple perspective that allowed him to come up with the simple big picture stuff, while Walt's genius was mired in the complex detail.Stuff like this happened with Skylar and Saul as well. Saul went from genius to idiot cant conjure a plan lawyer and Skylar went into genius mode as well when she wanted the car wash.What I want to know is, when did Jesse get so smart? Okay, he was always a bit street smart, but in Season 5, he suddenly conjured out of thin air two great plans - the magnets, and then how to rob the train without anyone ever knowing - while Walt and Mike sat there arguing. It just seemed odd that Jesse all of a sudden was the smart one who had this genius, infallible plan...twice.
Bump. Would like to see an answer to these questions as I have the same ones.... the poison was always a mystery.Couple questions:
1) How did Walt get Brock to take the poison?
2) How could Mike possibly get out of the park when the cops surrounded it?
I love when modern shows draw from ancient mythology. Naming episodes "Kafkaesque" and "Ozymandias" and making allusions to Sisyphus, for example, were awesome.
Well let's not get carried away here.I enjoyed Breaking Bad, but like New Girl a bit better.
Speaking as a fan of both shows, I think one could argue that Lost began with a better premise than Breaking Bad and built a more interesting mythos around it, but ultimately the people behind Lost ran it into the ground while the Breaking Bad people deftly added more and more richness and detail to the premise and finished it masterfully, resulting in a much higher overall level of enjoyment. Don't think it has anything to do with it being more violent or edgier, though that certainly adds appeal to some viewers.I don't get it. Why is it wrong to say I enjoyed watching Lost more than I enjoyed Breaking Bad? Particularly when I consider both to be all-time great shows.
Is it the idea that more violent/edgier is always going to equal "better"?
I'd be fine with saying that BB was probably the better show but that I still enjoyed watching Lost more. They're not contradictory opinions.Speaking as a fan of both shows, I think one could argue that Lost began with a better premise than Breaking Bad and built a more interesting mythos around it, but ultimately the people behind Lost ran it into the ground while the Breaking Bad people deftly added more and more richness and detail to the premise and finished it masterfully, resulting in a much higher overall level of enjoyment. Don't think it has anything to do with it being more violent or edgier, though that certainly adds appeal to some viewers.I don't get it. Why is it wrong to say I enjoyed watching Lost more than I enjoyed Breaking Bad? Particularly when I consider both to be all-time great shows.
Is it the idea that more violent/edgier is always going to equal "better"?
You're equating Lost with ALF?I really enjoyed Breaking Bad, but it's hard for me to consider it a better show than ALF.