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Two Deep said:
remote controller said:
Two Deep said:
Lost some respect for him today.
Why. cuz he kicked your butt?
no actually i wanted minny to win. just didn't like tha fact that it was 28-3 with three minutes left in the game and he felt the need to throw for another td. i thought he had more class than that.
If Dallas didn't want them to score they should have stopped them.
 
ScottyFargo said:
Two Deep said:
remote controller said:
Two Deep said:
Lost some respect for him today.
Why. cuz he kicked your butt?
no actually i wanted minny to win. just didn't like tha fact that it was 28-3 with three minutes left in the game and he felt the need to throw for another td. i thought he had more class than that.
I know the score makes it feel like the Dallas D were wearing dresses, but it's a little known fact that they are actually grown men, who at the start of the game wanted to be on the team that had the most points at the end. They didn't. So it goes.
:thumbup:
 
trader jake said:
remote controller said:
You won't be feeling this way soon enough. I'll wait until then to bump this.
Have you been saying that all year or did you just get stupid? :confused:
You remember the last time Brett Favre was going to lead his team to a win in a NFC Championship game? (6 1/2 point favorite vs NYG = L) Or the last time Brett Favre was going to lead his team to a win in the Super Bowl? (11 point favorites vs DEN = L)Don't worry, when the Vikings season ends it won't be me that's feeling stupid. Good luck.

PewterFan said:
:lol: :lol: :lol: @ Cowboy fans giving lessons about class.
True but also :lol: @ Vikings fans knowing what it takes to win a Super Bowl title. Good luck.
Lots of jealous packer fans here. Sure there playing one of the best offenses the NFL has seen in awhile. So yeah there's a chance the Vikings lose it. What's so funny is the packer fans are waiting each week to finally get there chance to bash favre. First it's he's going to throw more int's than TD's, then it's he's going to lose wildcard week, then it's this week, now it's next week and if they win the super bowl, and if they win the super bowl then it's see he retired on you.

Funny stuff here.

NOTE: THe wildcard point is from when they started losing at the end of the season and the haters pointed out he was going into his end of year slide.

 
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Kuz said:
jurrassic said:
encaitar said:
It's hilarious to me that now the Vikings fans are the Favre lovers. He is having a great season. How many impact players on the Vikings did they actually draft? Peterson, Rice, and Kevin Williams? They should just trade all their draft picks and continue to build in free agency. Favre, Berrian, Longwell, Allen, Pat Williams, Hutchinson, Shiancoe, Winfield, etc. They should just sit out and let other teams find the talent they can steal
This is one of the most unintelligent posts I've ever seen here and that's saying a lot. The Vikings were almost as talentless as the Detroit Lions by the time that Red McCombs sold the team because he didn't give two ####s about winning. He was only in it to make money and he made more when he didn't pay stars.In the past three years, the Vikings have turned one of the least talented rosters in the league into one of the most talented. To do that you obviously need some big name FAs and they've signed some good ones and have been very agressive in that aspect. However, you also have to have excellent drafts and the Vikings drafts have been among the best in the league during the new regime as well, and I would take their drafts every time over the Packers drafts in the same time period.
Relax guy. I never said the Vikings weren't run well. My point was that their impact players are mostly free agents, or were drafted by other teams and then acquired. Every team is filled with solid players and I'm not denying the Vikings don't have those. Most teams nowadays lock up their stars. The days of Reggie White being a free agent really don't exist anymore. That was before franchise tags. Most teams draft their best talent and then fill the holes with free agency. Look at Manning, Wayne, Freeney, Clark, Sanders. Their front office has been very shrewd in acquiring or targeting players that have really panned out. There are tons of teams who mortage draft picks or tens of millions of dollars in busts. That's all I'm saying. You Vikings fans must have some sort of inferiority complex. I think I've complemented their front office in every post
You're still not helping your case.. AP

Rice

Kevin Williams

EJ Henderson

Greeway

Harvin

All pretty good impact players I would say..
Myabe I view impact differently than you do. Henderson and Greenway are good solid NFL players but they aren't special. If Henderson is so special and crucial to the defense why did they only give up 3 points to the Cowboys. I don't think any Vikings fans said to themselves after Henderson go hurt "Oh great there goes the season." They are good players, but I could name you about 20 other starting linebackers who are just as good as Greenway. I already called out AP, Rice and Kevin Willams as impact, although you could argue Favre has help make Rice, but I won't I always thought the guy had talent.
 
hauser42 said:
If the Vikings fail to win the Super Bowl, before Brett retires have the vikes gained anything??
If Rodgers fails to win a Super Bowl in any of his seasons, have the Packers gained anything?
 
hauser42 said:
If the Vikings fail to win the Super Bowl, before Brett retires have the vikes gained anything??
If Rodgers fails to win a Super Bowl in any of his seasons, have the Packers gained anything?
Hard to project to the future, but for one thing if Favre were still on the Packers Rodgers wouldn't be. He would have left via free agency. So the Packers gained another franchise qb for another 10 years which gives them franchise viability and the knowledge they don't have to worry about that position for awhile assuming he doesn't get injured, etc. Whereas the Vikings are back at square one if Favre retires this year.
 
Kuz said:
jurrassic said:
encaitar said:
It's hilarious to me that now the Vikings fans are the Favre lovers. He is having a great season. How many impact players on the Vikings did they actually draft? Peterson, Rice, and Kevin Williams? They should just trade all their draft picks and continue to build in free agency. Favre, Berrian, Longwell, Allen, Pat Williams, Hutchinson, Shiancoe, Winfield, etc. They should just sit out and let other teams find the talent they can steal
This is one of the most unintelligent posts I've ever seen here and that's saying a lot. The Vikings were almost as talentless as the Detroit Lions by the time that Red McCombs sold the team because he didn't give two ####s about winning. He was only in it to make money and he made more when he didn't pay stars.In the past three years, the Vikings have turned one of the least talented rosters in the league into one of the most talented. To do that you obviously need some big name FAs and they've signed some good ones and have been very agressive in that aspect. However, you also have to have excellent drafts and the Vikings drafts have been among the best in the league during the new regime as well, and I would take their drafts every time over the Packers drafts in the same time period.
Relax guy. I never said the Vikings weren't run well. My point was that their impact players are mostly free agents, or were drafted by other teams and then acquired. Every team is filled with solid players and I'm not denying the Vikings don't have those. Most teams nowadays lock up their stars. The days of Reggie White being a free agent really don't exist anymore. That was before franchise tags. Most teams draft their best talent and then fill the holes with free agency. Look at Manning, Wayne, Freeney, Clark, Sanders. Their front office has been very shrewd in acquiring or targeting players that have really panned out. There are tons of teams who mortage draft picks or tens of millions of dollars in busts. That's all I'm saying. You Vikings fans must have some sort of inferiority complex. I think I've complemented their front office in every post
You're still not helping your case.. AP

Rice

Kevin Williams

EJ Henderson

Greeway

Harvin

All pretty good impact players I would say..
Myabe I view impact differently than you do. Henderson and Greenway are good solid NFL players but they aren't special. If Henderson is so special and crucial to the defense why did they only give up 3 points to the Cowboys. I don't think any Vikings fans said to themselves after Henderson go hurt "Oh great there goes the season." They are good players, but I could name you about 20 other starting linebackers who are just as good as Greenway. I already called out AP, Rice and Kevin Willams as impact, although you could argue Favre has help make Rice, but I won't I always thought the guy had talent.
I didn't say "there goes the season" because I don't think like that, but I did say "it's really going to be tough now...." And the late season slide began after Henderson got hurt and our ability to stop the run and defend against TEs was lost. The MLB is the general of the defense and Henderson was on his way to a Pro Bowl year. Even against the Cowboys we would have defended the run much better if Henderson had played as he has more speed than the rookie and could have penetrated and gotten to the outside better to stop those outside runs. The score was so low because the Cowboys didn't score early when they had chances, turned the ball over, and our offense was able to hit some big strike plays to take advantage. Once they were down the Cowboys couldn't run as much even though they did so with some success.
 
hauser42 said:
If the Vikings fail to win the Super Bowl, before Brett retires have the vikes gained anything??
If Rodgers fails to win a Super Bowl in any of his seasons, have the Packers gained anything?
Hard to project to the future, but for one thing if Favre were still on the Packers Rodgers wouldn't be. He would have left via free agency. So the Packers gained another franchise qb for another 10 years which gives them franchise viability and the knowledge they don't have to worry about that position for awhile assuming he doesn't get injured, etc. Whereas the Vikings are back at square one if Favre retires this year.
And I'll add that Green Bay would not have won another Super Bowl with Favre. Talent wise, he could not have picked a better spot than Minnesota. It was tailor made for him to succeed. I think both Favre and the Packers were sick of each other. It was time to move on.
 
hauser42 said:
If the Vikings fail to win the Super Bowl, before Brett retires have the vikes gained anything??
If Rodgers fails to win a Super Bowl in any of his seasons, have the Packers gained anything?
Hard to project to the future, but for one thing if Favre were still on the Packers Rodgers wouldn't be. He would have left via free agency. So the Packers gained another franchise qb for another 10 years which gives them franchise viability and the knowledge they don't have to worry about that position for awhile assuming he doesn't get injured, etc. Whereas the Vikings are back at square one if Favre retires this year.
And I'll add that Green Bay would not have won another Super Bowl with Favre. Talent wise, he could not have picked a better spot than Minnesota. It was tailor made for him to succeed. I think both Favre and the Packers were sick of each other. It was time to move on.
:thumbup: The way Rodgers has played the Packers obviously made the right choice. The way Favre has played (before the injury in 2008) and this past year for the Vikings he made the right choice as well. I wish Brett luck and I hope he has another great playoff game. Though I hope they lose something like 35-31. As much as I want Favre to do well I still cannot cheer for the Vikes.
 
trader jake said:
remote controller said:
You won't be feeling this way soon enough. I'll wait until then to bump this.
Have you been saying that all year or did you just get stupid? :D
You remember the last time Brett Favre was going to lead his team to a win in a NFC Championship game? (6 1/2 point favorite vs NYG = L) Or the last time Brett Favre was going to lead his team to a win in the Super Bowl? (11 point favorites vs DEN = L)Don't worry, when the Vikings season ends it won't be me that's feeling stupid. Good luck.

PewterFan said:
:lol: :lol: :lol: @ Cowboy fans giving lessons about class.
True but also :lol: @ Vikings fans knowing what it takes to win a Super Bowl title. Good luck.
Lots of jealous packer fans here. Sure there playing one of the best offenses the NFL has seen in awhile. So yeah there's a chance the Vikings lose it. What's so funny is the packer fans are waiting each week to finally get there chance to bash favre. First it's he's going to throw more int's than TD's, then it's he's going to lose wildcard week, then it's this week, now it's next week and if they win the super bowl, and if they win the super bowl then it's see he retired on you.

Funny stuff here.

NOTE: THe wildcard point is from when they started losing at the end of the season and the haters pointed out he was going into his end of year slide.
Very :thumbup:
 
It's tough for Packer fans, not because he doesn't play for the Packers, but because he plays for the Vikings. I know that's stating the obvious, but he pretty much spent two years trying to maneuver to go play for their biggest rivals. Sports fandom isn't logical. Passion, emotion, etc. come into play. It would be like Michael Jordan retiring and then going to play for the Pistons back in the day. There really is no comparion because no player of his stature has ever done this. I think he is more driven by a desire for vengence than a desire to win. Favre has folded more times in big games than he has succeeded but he is playing more focused than he ever has in his career. It's like watching your worst enemy marry your ex-wife and raise your kids.

 
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It's tough for Packer fans, not because he doesn't play for the Packers, but because he plays for the Vikings. I know that's stating the obvious, but he pretty much spent two years trying to maneuver to go play for their biggest rivals. Sports fandom isn't logical. Passion, emotion, etc. come into play. It would be like Michael Jordan retiring and then going to play for the Pistons back in the day. There really is no comparion because no player of his stature has ever done this. I think he is more driven by a desire for vengence than a desire to win. Favre has folded more times in big games than he has succeeded but he is playing more focused than he ever has in his career. It's like watching your worst enemy marry your ex-wife and raise your kids.
Viking fans watched Alan Page, who spent his first 12 years as part of the 'Purple People Eaters', play for 4 yrs with the Chicago Bears.While Page may not have the same national stature as Bret Favre, he was pretty big around these parts.

 
It's tough for Packer fans, not because he doesn't play for the Packers, but because he plays for the Vikings. I know that's stating the obvious, but he pretty much spent two years trying to maneuver to go play for their biggest rivals. Sports fandom isn't logical. Passion, emotion, etc. come into play. It would be like Michael Jordan retiring and then going to play for the Pistons back in the day. There really is no comparion because no player of his stature has ever done this. I think he is more driven by a desire for vengence than a desire to win. Favre has folded more times in big games than he has succeeded but he is playing more focused than he ever has in his career. It's like watching your worst enemy marry your ex-wife and raise your kids.
As a Packers fan myself, I have no problems with Brett on the Vikings. In fact, I hope the Vikings win the Super Bowl because I have much disdain for Thompson. Call me a Favre fan if you want but Thompson did nothing to help the team when Favre was here to win. Ron Wolf admitted he did not do enough to get Favre weapons and help the offense while he was here. Favre has always done the best with what he was given and he did pretty darn well with "minimal" talent. I also know that Thompson will never admit he tried to help the team win when they still had a good veteran team. Big difference between the two GM's in Green Bay so if I get labeled a "Favre" fan, then label me a Ron Wolf fan as well. Go Vikings.
 
It's tough for Packer fans, not because he doesn't play for the Packers, but because he plays for the Vikings. I know that's stating the obvious, but he pretty much spent two years trying to maneuver to go play for their biggest rivals. Sports fandom isn't logical. Passion, emotion, etc. come into play. It would be like Michael Jordan retiring and then going to play for the Pistons back in the day. There really is no comparion because no player of his stature has ever done this. I think he is more driven by a desire for vengence than a desire to win. Favre has folded more times in big games than he has succeeded but he is playing more focused than he ever has in his career. It's like watching your worst enemy marry your ex-wife and raise your kids.
As a Packers fan myself, I have no problems with Brett on the Vikings. In fact, I hope the Vikings win the Super Bowl because I have much disdain for Thompson. Call me a Favre fan if you want but Thompson did nothing to help the team when Favre was here to win. Ron Wolf admitted he did not do enough to get Favre weapons and help the offense while he was here. Favre has always done the best with what he was given and he did pretty darn well with "minimal" talent. I also know that Thompson will never admit he tried to help the team win when they still had a good veteran team. Big difference between the two GM's in Green Bay so if I get labeled a "Favre" fan, then label me a Ron Wolf fan as well. Go Vikings.
I label you a Favre fan. Pretty clear you're not a Packers fan. What Packer fans says "Go Vikings"? So your not a Thompson fan, who you claim did nothing to help the Packers win while Favre was here, but your a Ron Wolf fan who admitted to not giving Favre enough weapons? How does that make sense. The Packers were in the NFC championship game 2 years ago and Favre (along with Al Harris) were the reason they lost that game. That 2007 NFC Championship team was completley built by Thompson. Twelve of 22 starters, 32 of 45 gameday actives, and 40 of 53 players on the roster were acquired by Thompson via the draft, free agency, trades or the waiver wire in his first three years. That seems like he did something. The guy has won GM of the year once already, and could win it again this year. While 4th and 26 wasn't on Favre, the horrible interception he threw after that play was. The six int's in the playoff game against St. Louis were on Favre. The 4 int's game vs. the Vikings in 2005 were on Favre. Some of these games weren't with Thompson in the GM spot, but the Packers could have had pro-bowlers at every position and couldn't have won with Favre throwing 6 int's. How are the 29 ints Favre threw in Thompson's first year as GM Thompson's fault. I'm sure the team would have had a better record if Favre didn't average nearly 2 int's a game. I don't get the Thompson hate out of some people. Nearly every one in football admits the Packer's are set up with young talent for a long time, yet people continue to not like him because Favre retired 3 times and sat on his decision. I found it funny that right after the Cardinals loss on Sunday, Warner said he wants to make a quick decision because he would never want to put the team in that situation of not knowing. He understands it's a business and they have a right to know what he is going to do as soon as possble. Root for Favre, the Vikings, Childress as much as you want. Buy a Favre jersey for every team he played for but stop with the I don't like Thompson stuff. It's pretty clear he made the right decision. If Favre would have stayed Rodgers wouldn't have. Those are the decisions you need to make.
 
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It's tough for Packer fans, not because he doesn't play for the Packers, but because he plays for the Vikings. I know that's stating the obvious, but he pretty much spent two years trying to maneuver to go play for their biggest rivals. Sports fandom isn't logical. Passion, emotion, etc. come into play. It would be like Michael Jordan retiring and then going to play for the Pistons back in the day. There really is no comparion because no player of his stature has ever done this. I think he is more driven by a desire for vengence than a desire to win. Favre has folded more times in big games than he has succeeded but he is playing more focused than he ever has in his career. It's like watching your worst enemy marry your ex-wife and raise your kids.
As a Packers fan myself, I have no problems with Brett on the Vikings. In fact, I hope the Vikings win the Super Bowl because I have much disdain for Thompson. Call me a Favre fan if you want but Thompson did nothing to help the team when Favre was here to win. Ron Wolf admitted he did not do enough to get Favre weapons and help the offense while he was here. Favre has always done the best with what he was given and he did pretty darn well with "minimal" talent. I also know that Thompson will never admit he tried to help the team win when they still had a good veteran team. Big difference between the two GM's in Green Bay so if I get labeled a "Favre" fan, then label me a Ron Wolf fan as well. Go Vikings.
I label you a Favre fan. Pretty clear you're not a Packers fan. So your not a Thompson fan, who you claim did nothing to help the Packers win while Favre was here, but your a Ron Wolf fan who admitted to not giving Favre enough weapons? How does that make sense. The Packers were in the NFC championship game 2 years ago and Favre (along with Al Harris) were the reason they lost that game. That 2007 NFC Championship team was completley built by Thompson. Twelve of 22 starters, 32 of 45 gameday actives, and 40 of 53 players on the roster were acquired by Thompson via the draft, free agency, trades or the waiver wire in his first three years. That seems like he did something. The guy has won GM of the year once already, and could win it again this year. While 4th and 26 wasn't on Favre, the horrible interception he threw after that play was. The six int's in the playoff game against St. Louis were on Favre. The 4 int's game vs. the Vikings in 2005 were on Favre. Some of these games weren't with Thompson in the GM spot, but the Packers could have had pro-bowlers at every position and couldn't have won with Favre throwing 6 int's. How are the 29 ints Favre threw in Thompson's first year as GM Thompson's fault. I'm sure the team would have had a better record if Favre didn't average nearly 2 int's a game.

I don't get the Thompson hate out of some people. Nearly every one in football admits the Packer's are set up with young talent for a long time, yet people continue to not like him because Favre retired 3 times and sat on his decision. I found it funny that right after the Cardinals loss on Sunday, Warner said he wants to make a quick decision because he would never want to put the team in that situation of not knowing. He understands it's a business and they have a right to know what he is going to do as soon as possble. Root for Favre, the Vikings, Childress as much as you want. Buy a Favre jersey for every team he played for but stop with the I don't like Thompson stuff. It's pretty clear he made the right decision. If Favre would have stayed Rodgers wouldn't have. Those are the decisions you need to make.
:hophead: :lmao: Of those games that you listed that Favre "lost" for the team, how many of those games would the Packers have been in had it not been for Favre? 4th & 26 not Favre's fault but the INT was. Nice. 6 INT's is Favre's fault they lost. Nice. 29 INT's are Favre's fault. Again, nice.

By what you say above, you label me not a Packers fan however I could easily label you not a Packers fan either. Why? All you are doing is blaming one guy for your the heartache that the team has caused. What happened to the other players on the team? You appear to think Favre is the only one at fault for any of it. Nice. It sounds like you are more of a fair weather fan of the team when they win and a one player hater when they lose looking to point fingers. You failed to mention the 4th & 1 punt in the Philly game that could have sealed, a supposed, victory that day. You failed to acknowledge the amount of injuries for the team the year 29 INT's were thrown. You also fail to recognize that Favre, and the Packers, had one losing season his whole time here. Name another team that has the right to say that in 16 seasons. You aren't a Packers fan. You might be a sore loser though.

 
It's tough for Packer fans, not because he doesn't play for the Packers, but because he plays for the Vikings. I know that's stating the obvious, but he pretty much spent two years trying to maneuver to go play for their biggest rivals. Sports fandom isn't logical. Passion, emotion, etc. come into play. It would be like Michael Jordan retiring and then going to play for the Pistons back in the day. There really is no comparion because no player of his stature has ever done this. I think he is more driven by a desire for vengence than a desire to win. Favre has folded more times in big games than he has succeeded but he is playing more focused than he ever has in his career. It's like watching your worst enemy marry your ex-wife and raise your kids.
As a Packers fan myself, I have no problems with Brett on the Vikings. In fact, I hope the Vikings win the Super Bowl because I have much disdain for Thompson. Call me a Favre fan if you want but Thompson did nothing to help the team when Favre was here to win. Ron Wolf admitted he did not do enough to get Favre weapons and help the offense while he was here. Favre has always done the best with what he was given and he did pretty darn well with "minimal" talent. I also know that Thompson will never admit he tried to help the team win when they still had a good veteran team. Big difference between the two GM's in Green Bay so if I get labeled a "Favre" fan, then label me a Ron Wolf fan as well. Go Vikings.
I label you a Favre fan. Pretty clear you're not a Packers fan. So your not a Thompson fan, who you claim did nothing to help the Packers win while Favre was here, but your a Ron Wolf fan who admitted to not giving Favre enough weapons? How does that make sense. The Packers were in the NFC championship game 2 years ago and Favre (along with Al Harris) were the reason they lost that game. That 2007 NFC Championship team was completley built by Thompson. Twelve of 22 starters, 32 of 45 gameday actives, and 40 of 53 players on the roster were acquired by Thompson via the draft, free agency, trades or the waiver wire in his first three years. That seems like he did something. The guy has won GM of the year once already, and could win it again this year. While 4th and 26 wasn't on Favre, the horrible interception he threw after that play was. The six int's in the playoff game against St. Louis were on Favre. The 4 int's game vs. the Vikings in 2005 were on Favre. Some of these games weren't with Thompson in the GM spot, but the Packers could have had pro-bowlers at every position and couldn't have won with Favre throwing 6 int's. How are the 29 ints Favre threw in Thompson's first year as GM Thompson's fault. I'm sure the team would have had a better record if Favre didn't average nearly 2 int's a game.

I don't get the Thompson hate out of some people. Nearly every one in football admits the Packer's are set up with young talent for a long time, yet people continue to not like him because Favre retired 3 times and sat on his decision. I found it funny that right after the Cardinals loss on Sunday, Warner said he wants to make a quick decision because he would never want to put the team in that situation of not knowing. He understands it's a business and they have a right to know what he is going to do as soon as possble. Root for Favre, the Vikings, Childress as much as you want. Buy a Favre jersey for every team he played for but stop with the I don't like Thompson stuff. It's pretty clear he made the right decision. If Favre would have stayed Rodgers wouldn't have. Those are the decisions you need to make.
:D :lmao: Of those games that you listed that Favre "lost" for the team, how many of those games would the Packers have been in had it not been for Favre? 4th & 26 not Favre's fault but the INT was. Nice. 6 INT's is Favre's fault they lost. Nice. 29 INT's are Favre's fault. Again, nice.

By what you say above, you label me not a Packers fan however I could easily label you not a Packers fan either. Why? All you are doing is blaming one guy for your the heartache that the team has caused. What happened to the other players on the team? You appear to think Favre is the only one at fault for any of it. Nice. It sounds like you are more of a fair weather fan of the team when they win and a one player hater when they lose looking to point fingers. You failed to mention the 4th & 1 punt in the Philly game that could have sealed, a supposed, victory that day. You failed to acknowledge the amount of injuries for the team the year 29 INT's were thrown. You also fail to recognize that Favre, and the Packers, had one losing season his whole time here. Name another team that has the right to say that in 16 seasons. You aren't a Packers fan. You might be a sore loser though.
I root for the name on the front of jersey, not the back. I'm not blaming Favre for those losses, but you make it sound like the guy came to play every game. He had some terrible playoff games in his time in Green Bay. I'm not blaming him solefy for the losses but by the sound of it, you make it seem like it was Favre and a bunch of practice squad players out on the field. You said Thompson did nothing while Favre was here to help him win, yet he signed 75% of the team that went to the NFC Championship game. That doesn't even make any sense. It sounds to me like you were one of those guys who probably got a #4 tattoo on his arm and named his kid Brett and now you have to follow him wherever he goes.
 
It's tough for Packer fans, not because he doesn't play for the Packers, but because he plays for the Vikings. I know that's stating the obvious, but he pretty much spent two years trying to maneuver to go play for their biggest rivals. Sports fandom isn't logical. Passion, emotion, etc. come into play. It would be like Michael Jordan retiring and then going to play for the Pistons back in the day. There really is no comparion because no player of his stature has ever done this. I think he is more driven by a desire for vengence than a desire to win. Favre has folded more times in big games than he has succeeded but he is playing more focused than he ever has in his career. It's like watching your worst enemy marry your ex-wife and raise your kids.
You do know don't you all you've done is win one game.
 
Two Deep said:
remote controller said:
Two Deep said:
Lost some respect for him today.
Why. cuz he kicked your butt?
no actually i wanted minny to win. just didn't like tha fact that it was 28-3 with three minutes left in the game and he felt the need to throw for another td. i thought he had more class than that.
....and the Cowboys didn't rub it into the Eagles, and the Saints pulled back against the Cardinals??? Get a real perspective. That whole thing was brought on by coverage before the game, and Childress being an Eagle got pissed. You tell any QB in the NFL to go for it, and none of them are gonna be act like you. Go sell flowers or something....."not that there's anything wrong with that!"
 
It's pretty clear he made the right decision. If Favre would have stayed Rodgers wouldn't have. Those are the decisions you need to make.
This must be right. I mean, Leinart isn't waiting patiently for Warner to retire or anything.
And Rodgers didn't wait patiently?
Sure he did. And I have always believed that he would have kept right on waiting. It's not like the Pack saw much of him before signing him to a monster contract in the middle of a 6-10 season. They could have extended him while keeping Favre out of enemy hands.
 
You won't be feeling this way soon enough. I'll wait until then to bump this.
Have you been saying that all year or did you just get stupid? :unsure:
You remember the last time Brett Favre was going to lead his team to a win in a NFC Championship game? (6 1/2 point favorite vs NYG = L) Or the last time Brett Favre was going to lead his team to a win in the Super Bowl? (11 point favorites vs DEN = L)Don't worry, when the Vikings season ends it won't be me that's feeling stupid. Good luck.

:P :lol: :lol: @ Cowboy fans giving lessons about class.
True but also :lol: @ Vikings fans knowing what it takes to win a Super Bowl title. Good luck.
Lots of jealous packer fans here. Sure there playing one of the best offenses the NFL has seen in awhile. So yeah there's a chance the Vikings lose it. What's so funny is the packer fans are waiting each week to finally get there chance to bash favre. First it's he's going to throw more int's than TD's, then it's he's going to lose wildcard week, then it's this week, now it's next week and if they win the super bowl, and if they win the super bowl then it's see he retired on you.

Funny stuff here.

NOTE: THe wildcard point is from when they started losing at the end of the season and the haters pointed out he was going into his end of year slide.
Whats even more funny is you run to the defense of Favre quite often and blame it all on Packer fans.Read the game thread...read the running up the score thread...then realize its not Packer fans doing all this bashing.

And several Packer fans said they had no problem other than thinking it was dumb to have him in the game at that point.

Not a Favre bash...but a Childress bash.

 
It's tough for Packer fans, not because he doesn't play for the Packers, but because he plays for the Vikings. I know that's stating the obvious, but he pretty much spent two years trying to maneuver to go play for their biggest rivals. Sports fandom isn't logical. Passion, emotion, etc. come into play. It would be like Michael Jordan retiring and then going to play for the Pistons back in the day. There really is no comparion because no player of his stature has ever done this. I think he is more driven by a desire for vengence than a desire to win. Favre has folded more times in big games than he has succeeded but he is playing more focused than he ever has in his career. It's like watching your worst enemy marry your ex-wife and raise your kids.
As a Packers fan myself, I have no problems with Brett on the Vikings. In fact, I hope the Vikings win the Super Bowl because I have much disdain for Thompson. Call me a Favre fan if you want but Thompson did nothing to help the team when Favre was here to win. Ron Wolf admitted he did not do enough to get Favre weapons and help the offense while he was here. Favre has always done the best with what he was given and he did pretty darn well with "minimal" talent. I also know that Thompson will never admit he tried to help the team win when they still had a good veteran team. Big difference between the two GM's in Green Bay so if I get labeled a "Favre" fan, then label me a Ron Wolf fan as well. Go Vikings.
Few things...if Thompson did nothing to help Favre...how did they go 13-3 in 2007. Was that all Favre?How did he do nothing to help the team win? Did he not draft some of these players? Did he not sign Woodson, Pickett..and resign several key guys including Driver and Kampman while Favre was around?I agree Wolf said that...and believes it...and I love Ron Wolf and Thompson is no Wolf...but everyone compares Thompson to Wolf...not even close at this point. But its also not as if Wolf brought this team several titles.I only label a Favre fan to those who sided so much with him that they cheered for him ahead of the Packers.
 
It's pretty clear he made the right decision. If Favre would have stayed Rodgers wouldn't have. Those are the decisions you need to make.
This must be right. I mean, Leinart isn't waiting patiently for Warner to retire or anything.
And Rodgers didn't wait patiently?
Sure he did. And I have always believed that he would have kept right on waiting. It's not like the Pack saw much of him before signing him to a monster contract in the middle of a 6-10 season. They could have extended him while keeping Favre out of enemy hands.
Yeah...THompson would not have gotten killed for extending a guy who had not seen any real playing time.Its not for sure Rodgers would have left...but you have to admit the strong possibility that he would have been tired of it all...especially after a full offseason thinking he was going to start.Leinart...not totally comparable since he got his shot...granted as a rookie...and obviously has not shown enough of anything for Zona to this point.
 
It's pretty clear he made the right decision. If Favre would have stayed Rodgers wouldn't have. Those are the decisions you need to make.
This must be right. I mean, Leinart isn't waiting patiently for Warner to retire or anything.
And Rodgers didn't wait patiently?
Sure he did. And I have always believed that he would have kept right on waiting. It's not like the Pack saw much of him before signing him to a monster contract in the middle of a 6-10 season. They could have extended him while keeping Favre out of enemy hands.
Except for that little detail of Favre not wanting to play for Ted Thompson. I think that's pretty clear at this point.
 
If the Vikings fail to win the Super Bowl, before Brett retires have the vikes gained anything??
I don't think so. I think it's a failure without a trophy.A Superbowl birth would be great, but on Mike and Mike today they illustrated that in the last 3 years we've seen 12 different teams make it to the final four, so parity is exceptional in the NFL. Each season matters now more than ever. You have to take your shot when you have it. If the Vikings do not win the Superbowl, it's still a great season that showed improvement in the passing game, a great season for Favre, shows Shiancoe and Rice are going to be major players in the passing game so long as they get better than below average play from the QB, and Favre is no lock to come back next year so that's a major question mark. The run blocking has let Peterson down, in spite of his increased TDs, his YPC is lower than it should be and teams might be able to keep up the pressure on him next year. Pat Williams is 37 and his play is sliding, the Vikes Run D may not be able to keep tops for long. Who knows how E.J. will respond to the broken leg. There are some things to be hopeful for, but there are just as many things to question for the future.Next year the Vikes could go right back to a losing season, just as the Packers did the season after their NFC Championship appearance. To not win the Superbowl would be a colossal disappointment. I'll cry and you can laugh.
Solid post Scott.
If the Vikings fail to win the Super Bowl, before Brett retires have the vikes gained anything??
If Rodgers fails to win a Super Bowl in any of his seasons, have the Packers gained anything?
See ScottyFargo's post above. Anything less that a title should be considered a disappointment for Thompson and Rodgers.
 
It's tough for Packer fans, not because he doesn't play for the Packers, but because he plays for the Vikings. I know that's stating the obvious, but he pretty much spent two years trying to maneuver to go play for their biggest rivals. Sports fandom isn't logical. Passion, emotion, etc. come into play. It would be like Michael Jordan retiring and then going to play for the Pistons back in the day. There really is no comparion because no player of his stature has ever done this. I think he is more driven by a desire for vengence than a desire to win. Favre has folded more times in big games than he has succeeded but he is playing more focused than he ever has in his career. It's like watching your worst enemy marry your ex-wife and raise your kids.
As a Packers fan myself, I have no problems with Brett on the Vikings. In fact, I hope the Vikings win the Super Bowl because I have much disdain for Thompson. Call me a Favre fan if you want but Thompson did nothing to help the team when Favre was here to win. Ron Wolf admitted he did not do enough to get Favre weapons and help the offense while he was here. Favre has always done the best with what he was given and he did pretty darn well with "minimal" talent. I also know that Thompson will never admit he tried to help the team win when they still had a good veteran team. Big difference between the two GM's in Green Bay so if I get labeled a "Favre" fan, then label me a Ron Wolf fan as well. Go Vikings.
I label you a Favre fan. Pretty clear you're not a Packers fan. So your not a Thompson fan, who you claim did nothing to help the Packers win while Favre was here, but your a Ron Wolf fan who admitted to not giving Favre enough weapons? How does that make sense. The Packers were in the NFC championship game 2 years ago and Favre (along with Al Harris) were the reason they lost that game. That 2007 NFC Championship team was completley built by Thompson. Twelve of 22 starters, 32 of 45 gameday actives, and 40 of 53 players on the roster were acquired by Thompson via the draft, free agency, trades or the waiver wire in his first three years. That seems like he did something. The guy has won GM of the year once already, and could win it again this year. While 4th and 26 wasn't on Favre, the horrible interception he threw after that play was. The six int's in the playoff game against St. Louis were on Favre. The 4 int's game vs. the Vikings in 2005 were on Favre. Some of these games weren't with Thompson in the GM spot, but the Packers could have had pro-bowlers at every position and couldn't have won with Favre throwing 6 int's. How are the 29 ints Favre threw in Thompson's first year as GM Thompson's fault. I'm sure the team would have had a better record if Favre didn't average nearly 2 int's a game.

I don't get the Thompson hate out of some people. Nearly every one in football admits the Packer's are set up with young talent for a long time, yet people continue to not like him because Favre retired 3 times and sat on his decision. I found it funny that right after the Cardinals loss on Sunday, Warner said he wants to make a quick decision because he would never want to put the team in that situation of not knowing. He understands it's a business and they have a right to know what he is going to do as soon as possble. Root for Favre, the Vikings, Childress as much as you want. Buy a Favre jersey for every team he played for but stop with the I don't like Thompson stuff. It's pretty clear he made the right decision. If Favre would have stayed Rodgers wouldn't have. Those are the decisions you need to make.
:goodposting: :lmao: Of those games that you listed that Favre "lost" for the team, how many of those games would the Packers have been in had it not been for Favre? 4th & 26 not Favre's fault but the INT was. Nice. 6 INT's is Favre's fault they lost. Nice. 29 INT's are Favre's fault. Again, nice.

By what you say above, you label me not a Packers fan however I could easily label you not a Packers fan either. Why? All you are doing is blaming one guy for your the heartache that the team has caused. What happened to the other players on the team? You appear to think Favre is the only one at fault for any of it. Nice. It sounds like you are more of a fair weather fan of the team when they win and a one player hater when they lose looking to point fingers. You failed to mention the 4th & 1 punt in the Philly game that could have sealed, a supposed, victory that day. You failed to acknowledge the amount of injuries for the team the year 29 INT's were thrown. You also fail to recognize that Favre, and the Packers, had one losing season his whole time here. Name another team that has the right to say that in 16 seasons. You aren't a Packers fan. You might be a sore loser though.
Wow. You could be the worst football fan in the history of football.
 
Solid post Scott.

If the Vikings fail to win the Super Bowl, before Brett retires have the vikes gained anything??
If Rodgers fails to win a Super Bowl in any of his seasons, have the Packers gained anything?
See ScottyFargo's post above. Anything less that a title should be considered a disappointment for Thompson and Rodgers.
Thank you. I understand why other fans say that this season something was "gained", I enjoyed watching every game this season (apart from the crushing losses, but even then you take something away with it) and Brett Favre has simply been amazing. From week 3 when he stole the game from San Francisco on that ridiculous pass to Greg Lewis, to how he's taken Sidney Rice under his wing and helped him realize his potential, a lot of amazing stuff has happened that I'll never forget. (Tweaking the noses of Pack fans was kind fo special, too.) No offense to Cowboy fans, but I was laughing all day yesterday watching replays of Sidney Rice's 3 TD performance yesterday because he and Favre made the defenders look foolish. I haven't felt this giddy about a football team, ever.But the albatross on the Viking's franchise neck is the number of Superbowl victories. That's why Favre came back (and because on the road he'd get to exorcise some demons) and I think that the rest of the team will be disappointed if it can't capitalize on the opportunity at hand. I think Favre is gone after this year win or lose.Edit: I think with the Packers, however, you can be more lenient because Rodgers' and the rest of the team's age. Key positions may need to be replaced but the offense should be high powered for a while. Everyone has a right to be disappointed if your team doesn't win, but it makes it hurt less if you feel like your team has a good chance at competing year after year. The Vikings have had a slow build under Chilly, the Pack bounced back quite nicely this year.
 
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Solid post Scott.

If the Vikings fail to win the Super Bowl, before Brett retires have the vikes gained anything??
If Rodgers fails to win a Super Bowl in any of his seasons, have the Packers gained anything?
See ScottyFargo's post above. Anything less that a title should be considered a disappointment for Thompson and Rodgers.
Thank you. I understand why other fans say that this season something was "gained", I enjoyed watching every game this season (apart from the crushing losses, but even then you take something away with it) and Brett Favre has simply been amazing. From week 3 when he stole the game from San Francisco on that ridiculous pass to Greg Lewis, to how he's taken Sidney Rice under his wing and helped him realize his potential, a lot of amazing stuff has happened that I'll never forget. (Tweaking the noses of Pack fans was kind fo special, too.) No offense to Cowboy fans, but I was laughing all day yesterday watching replays of Sidney Rice's 3 TD performance yesterday because he and Favre made the defenders look foolish. I haven't felt this giddy about a football team, ever.But the albatross on the Viking's franchise neck is the number of Superbowl victories. That's why Favre came back (and because on the road he'd get to exorcise some demons) and I think that the rest of the team will be disappointed if it can't capitalize on the opportunity at hand. I think Favre is gone after this year win or lose.Edit: I think with the Packers, however, you can be more lenient because Rodgers' and the rest of the team's age. Key positions may need to be replaced but the offense should be high powered for a while. Everyone has a right to be disappointed if your team doesn't win, but it makes it hurt less if you feel like your team has a good chance at competing year after year. The Vikings have had a slow build under Chilly, the Pack bounced back quite nicely this year.
And gulp...I agree with Fargo.Rice has been helped not only by Favre...but being in the league another year...and a big thing, staying healthy and able to build on it each week.THe play he made on that first TD was great. Nice throw into good coverage...but the catch was incredible with the defender all over him (just not looking).
 
Solid post Scott.

If the Vikings fail to win the Super Bowl, before Brett retires have the vikes gained anything??
If Rodgers fails to win a Super Bowl in any of his seasons, have the Packers gained anything?
See ScottyFargo's post above. Anything less that a title should be considered a disappointment for Thompson and Rodgers.
Thank you. I understand why other fans say that this season something was "gained", I enjoyed watching every game this season (apart from the crushing losses, but even then you take something away with it) and Brett Favre has simply been amazing. From week 3 when he stole the game from San Francisco on that ridiculous pass to Greg Lewis, to how he's taken Sidney Rice under his wing and helped him realize his potential, a lot of amazing stuff has happened that I'll never forget. (Tweaking the noses of Pack fans was kind fo special, too.) No offense to Cowboy fans, but I was laughing all day yesterday watching replays of Sidney Rice's 3 TD performance yesterday because he and Favre made the defenders look foolish. I haven't felt this giddy about a football team, ever.But the albatross on the Viking's franchise neck is the number of Superbowl victories. That's why Favre came back (and because on the road he'd get to exorcise some demons) and I think that the rest of the team will be disappointed if it can't capitalize on the opportunity at hand. I think Favre is gone after this year win or lose.Edit: I think with the Packers, however, you can be more lenient because Rodgers' and the rest of the team's age. Key positions may need to be replaced but the offense should be high powered for a while. Everyone has a right to be disappointed if your team doesn't win, but it makes it hurt less if you feel like your team has a good chance at competing year after year. The Vikings have had a slow build under Chilly, the Pack bounced back quite nicely this year.
And gulp...I agree with Fargo.Rice has been helped not only by Favre...but being in the league another year...and a big thing, staying healthy and able to build on it each week.THe play he made on that first TD was great. Nice throw into good coverage...but the catch was incredible with the defender all over him (just not looking).
So do I. Although it is hard to quantify, there is also something to be said for Favre's impact on the other's players on the Vikings. It is evident in Rice, but also look at Shiancoe, Harvin, etc. The Vikings were a good team before him but they have a swagger they didn't have last year. He also gave some credibility to Childress and may help them with their stadium issue. In addition to that he has helped the team gain more playoff experience with a trip to the NFC Championship game. I don't know how you can argue it was a bad move by the Vikings bringing Favre in. Favre is playing the best football he has ever played. He was not this efficient in any of the year's he played for the Packers. As a Packer fan, I admit it's hard watching him play this well for the Vikings but there is no denying it. I actually get more irritated with Packer fans rooting for the Vikings than I do Favre playing for them.
 
It's tough for Packer fans, not because he doesn't play for the Packers, but because he plays for the Vikings. I know that's stating the obvious, but he pretty much spent two years trying to maneuver to go play for their biggest rivals. Sports fandom isn't logical. Passion, emotion, etc. come into play. It would be like Michael Jordan retiring and then going to play for the Pistons back in the day. There really is no comparion because no player of his stature has ever done this. I think he is more driven by a desire for vengence than a desire to win. Favre has folded more times in big games than he has succeeded but he is playing more focused than he ever has in his career. It's like watching your worst enemy marry your ex-wife and raise your kids.
As a Packers fan myself, I have no problems with Brett on the Vikings. In fact, I hope the Vikings win the Super Bowl because I have much disdain for Thompson. Call me a Favre fan if you want but Thompson did nothing to help the team when Favre was here to win. Ron Wolf admitted he did not do enough to get Favre weapons and help the offense while he was here. Favre has always done the best with what he was given and he did pretty darn well with "minimal" talent. I also know that Thompson will never admit he tried to help the team win when they still had a good veteran team. Big difference between the two GM's in Green Bay so if I get labeled a "Favre" fan, then label me a Ron Wolf fan as well. Go Vikings.
I label you a Favre fan. Pretty clear you're not a Packers fan.

What Packer fans says "Go Vikings"? So your not a Thompson fan, who you claim did nothing to help the Packers win while Favre was here, but your a Ron Wolf fan who admitted to not giving Favre enough weapons? How does that make sense. The Packers were in the NFC championship game 2 years ago and Favre (along with Al Harris) were the reason they lost that game. That 2007 NFC Championship team was completley built by Thompson. Twelve of 22 starters, 32 of 45 gameday actives, and 40 of 53 players on the roster were acquired by Thompson via the draft, free agency, trades or the waiver wire in his first three years. That seems like he did something. The guy has won GM of the year once already, and could win it again this year. While 4th and 26 wasn't on Favre, the horrible interception he threw after that play was. The six int's in the playoff game against St. Louis were on Favre. The 4 int's game vs. the Vikings in 2005 were on Favre. Some of these games weren't with Thompson in the GM spot, but the Packers could have had pro-bowlers at every position and couldn't have won with Favre throwing 6 int's. How are the 29 ints Favre threw in Thompson's first year as GM Thompson's fault. I'm sure the team would have had a better record if Favre didn't average nearly 2 int's a game.

I don't get the Thompson hate out of some people. Nearly every one in football admits the Packer's are set up with young talent for a long time, yet people continue to not like him because Favre retired 3 times and sat on his decision. I found it funny that right after the Cardinals loss on Sunday, Warner said he wants to make a quick decision because he would never want to put the team in that situation of not knowing. He understands it's a business and they have a right to know what he is going to do as soon as possble. Root for Favre, the Vikings, Childress as much as you want. Buy a Favre jersey for every team he played for but stop with the I don't like Thompson stuff. It's pretty clear he made the right decision. If Favre would have stayed Rodgers wouldn't have. Those are the decisions you need to make.
Why can't someone be a Packers fan and also enjoy seeing the once legendary packer QB doing well? I'm starting to think there's something in the drinking water.
 
It's tough for Packer fans, not because he doesn't play for the Packers, but because he plays for the Vikings. I know that's stating the obvious, but he pretty much spent two years trying to maneuver to go play for their biggest rivals. Sports fandom isn't logical. Passion, emotion, etc. come into play. It would be like Michael Jordan retiring and then going to play for the Pistons back in the day. There really is no comparion because no player of his stature has ever done this. I think he is more driven by a desire for vengence than a desire to win. Favre has folded more times in big games than he has succeeded but he is playing more focused than he ever has in his career. It's like watching your worst enemy marry your ex-wife and raise your kids.
As a Packers fan myself, I have no problems with Brett on the Vikings. In fact, I hope the Vikings win the Super Bowl because I have much disdain for Thompson. Call me a Favre fan if you want but Thompson did nothing to help the team when Favre was here to win. Ron Wolf admitted he did not do enough to get Favre weapons and help the offense while he was here. Favre has always done the best with what he was given and he did pretty darn well with "minimal" talent. I also know that Thompson will never admit he tried to help the team win when they still had a good veteran team. Big difference between the two GM's in Green Bay so if I get labeled a "Favre" fan, then label me a Ron Wolf fan as well. Go Vikings.
I label you a Favre fan. Pretty clear you're not a Packers fan.

What Packer fans says "Go Vikings"? So your not a Thompson fan, who you claim did nothing to help the Packers win while Favre was here, but your a Ron Wolf fan who admitted to not giving Favre enough weapons? How does that make sense. The Packers were in the NFC championship game 2 years ago and Favre (along with Al Harris) were the reason they lost that game. That 2007 NFC Championship team was completley built by Thompson. Twelve of 22 starters, 32 of 45 gameday actives, and 40 of 53 players on the roster were acquired by Thompson via the draft, free agency, trades or the waiver wire in his first three years. That seems like he did something. The guy has won GM of the year once already, and could win it again this year. While 4th and 26 wasn't on Favre, the horrible interception he threw after that play was. The six int's in the playoff game against St. Louis were on Favre. The 4 int's game vs. the Vikings in 2005 were on Favre. Some of these games weren't with Thompson in the GM spot, but the Packers could have had pro-bowlers at every position and couldn't have won with Favre throwing 6 int's. How are the 29 ints Favre threw in Thompson's first year as GM Thompson's fault. I'm sure the team would have had a better record if Favre didn't average nearly 2 int's a game.

I don't get the Thompson hate out of some people. Nearly every one in football admits the Packer's are set up with young talent for a long time, yet people continue to not like him because Favre retired 3 times and sat on his decision. I found it funny that right after the Cardinals loss on Sunday, Warner said he wants to make a quick decision because he would never want to put the team in that situation of not knowing. He understands it's a business and they have a right to know what he is going to do as soon as possble. Root for Favre, the Vikings, Childress as much as you want. Buy a Favre jersey for every team he played for but stop with the I don't like Thompson stuff. It's pretty clear he made the right decision. If Favre would have stayed Rodgers wouldn't have. Those are the decisions you need to make.
Why can't someone be a Packers fan and also enjoy seeing the once legendary packer QB doing well? I'm starting to think there's something in the drinking water.
It's my opinion but for one the poster wrote "Call me a Favre fan if you like" so I did, and he stated he hopes the Vikings win the Super Bowl. He has no problems with Favre on the Vikings, etc. Once again, it's my opinion of fandom. You may have other feelings. I just don't understand how any fan of a team can route for one of their biggest rivals. I don't know many Red Sox fans who hope the Yankees win the World Series, or Eagles fans hoping the Cowboys win the Super Bowl.
 
Whats even more funny is you run to the defense of Favre quite often and blame it all on Packer fans.Read the game thread...read the running up the score thread...then realize its not Packer fans doing all this bashing.And several Packer fans said they had no problem other than thinking it was dumb to have him in the game at that point.Not a Favre bash...but a Childress bash.
Funny how packer fans have to make this personnel.Don't see where I'm defending Favre here anyway. I see where I pointed out that the Jealous packer fans keep waiting to bash him. I'm sure many will hop on as soon as they can. Where did I say it was all packer fans. I simply pointed out they are the funniest and make the most absurd points and try to deflect the situation. Just look for high post count Packer fans in Favre threads. I also did not say there were not some intelligent packer fans that made valid points.I posted in that thread and the Cowboys should have stopped the Vikings if they didn't want them to score. In my mind there was no running up the score. Dallas was simply not a match for the Vikings.
 
So can Favre be considered the best QB of 2 franchises...especially ones that hate each other? Obviously he doesn't have the stats of Tarkenton and this comment is a little bit tongue in check, but if he delivers a Super Bowl victory, something Viking fans have craved forever, many will make that argument.

I think the upper Midwest will explode if this happens.

 
Wow. You could be the worst football fan in the history of football.
Thank you for blindly following a team that can do anything and keep your loyalty. Your teams appreciate it.
fan  /fæn/–noun, an enthusiastic devotee, follower, or admirer of a sport, pastime, celebrity fanatic  /fəˈnætɪk/ –noun, a person with an extreme and uncritical enthusiasm or zeal That's the definition of fan. You can be critical but you don't switch allegiances. What you are describing yourself as is a fairweather fan, bandwagon fan, etc. I agree with the previous poster you may be the worst football fan in the history of football. Oh, they're good I like them. Wait a minute they had a bad year I'm going to root for someone else. Oh look they're good again....oh wait nevemind. Do you have like 15 different team jersey's in your closet?
 
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Wow. You could be the worst football fan in the history of football.
Thank you for blindly following a team that can do anything and keep your loyalty. Your teams appreciate it.
fan  /fæn/–noun, an enthusiastic devotee, follower, or admirer of a sport, pastime, celebrity fanatic  /fəˈnætɪk/ –noun, a person with an extreme and uncritical enthusiasm or zeal That's the definition of fan. You can be critical but you don't switch allegiances. What you are describing yourself as is a fairweather fan, bandwagon fan, etc. I agree with the previous poster you may be the worst football fan in the history of football. Oh, they're good I like them. Wait a minute they had a bad year I'm going to root for someone else. Oh look they're good again....oh wait nevemind. Do you have like 15 different team jersey's in your closet?
I can bullwhooty. I see no "switching of allegiances". I am a Packers Fan. Period. But I have no problem with the Vikings and Favre winning a Superbowl if the Packers will not. Indeed, as I have often stated here, if the trophy won't be held by the green and gold then I would RATHER it be with another NFC North team than anyone else. It is the best division in football in terms of tradiation and fandom. Not another team out there now I like as much (although I suspect there are 2 better teams still in the running). I also am no TT fan. He is okay, but I generally disagree with his philosophy and strategy (i.e., draft vs. FA and the like). I am starting to think he was right on with Capers and 4-3, pleased they have done so well there after a slow start. IMHO, a Packers fan does not minimize and undervalue the player that did so much for the franchise. Most here do and they are fanatics. Look at the number of games the Packers won while Favre was at the helm to the number of games other teams won. Look at what he gave to the community in terms of time and money. That sort of contribution should not be minimized and although it might be slightly reduced at this point, it shines bright above the clouds for me. That is what it was about: winning games. Winning with a broken thumb. Winning after Big Irv passed. Whatever. Favre had his teams' back and everyone there knew it.
 
Wow. You could be the worst football fan in the history of football.
Thank you for blindly following a team that can do anything and keep your loyalty. Your teams appreciate it.
fan  /fæn/–noun, an enthusiastic devotee, follower, or admirer of a sport, pastime, celebrityfanatic  /fəˈnætɪk/ –noun, a person with an extreme and uncritical enthusiasm or zeal That's the definition of fan. You can be critical but you don't switch allegiances. What you are describing yourself as is a fairweather fan, bandwagon fan, etc. I agree with the previous poster you may be the worst football fan in the history of football. Oh, they're good I like them. Wait a minute they had a bad year I'm going to root for someone else. Oh look they're good again....oh wait nevemind. Do you have like 15 different team jersey's in your closet?
Blah, blah, blah. You aren't a fan. Yes, I am. No, you aren't. Yes, I am. No, you aren't because you don't like the team and because you don't hate Faver and the Vikings. Yes, I am. No, you aren't because you don't fit Webster's definition of what a fan is. Yes, I am. No, you aren't because you are the worst football fan of all time. :goodposting: :wub: at some of you.
 
Wow. You could be the worst football fan in the history of football.
Thank you for blindly following a team that can do anything and keep your loyalty. Your teams appreciate it.
fan  /fæn/–noun, an enthusiastic devotee, follower, or admirer of a sport, pastime, celebrity fanatic  /fəˈnætɪk/ –noun, a person with an extreme and uncritical enthusiasm or zeal That's the definition of fan. You can be critical but you don't switch allegiances. What you are describing yourself as is a fairweather fan, bandwagon fan, etc. I agree with the previous poster you may be the worst football fan in the history of football. Oh, they're good I like them. Wait a minute they had a bad year I'm going to root for someone else. Oh look they're good again....oh wait nevemind. Do you have like 15 different team jersey's in your closet?
Favre had his teams' back and everyone there knew it.
Early in his career, sure. But toward the end, it wasn't the rosy picture you're painting. Like when he demanded a trade, then went to the media and said it didn't happen. Like when he retired, then ran to the media and said he changed his mind. Or when he demanded his own private locker area. Complained publicly about personnel decisions. Those incidents weren't about having anyone's back but his own.Look, I loved the old gunslinger. But the more that's come out since he left Green Bay, the more it sure seems we were sold on an image that really wasn't the man. It's OK, happens all the time.I still respect him for what he did for Green Bay. But to this Packer fan, he won't hold the same esteem. He's doing remarkable things in Minnesota, but rest assured I'd rather see the Vikings lose in the next two weeks, Favre or no Favre.
 
Mario Kart said:
jurrassic said:
Mario Kart said:
Wow. You could be the worst football fan in the history of football.
Thank you for blindly following a team that can do anything and keep your loyalty. Your teams appreciate it.
fan  /fæn/–noun, an enthusiastic devotee, follower, or admirer of a sport, pastime, celebrityfanatic  /fəˈnætɪk/ –noun, a person with an extreme and uncritical enthusiasm or zeal That's the definition of fan. You can be critical but you don't switch allegiances. What you are describing yourself as is a fairweather fan, bandwagon fan, etc. I agree with the previous poster you may be the worst football fan in the history of football. Oh, they're good I like them. Wait a minute they had a bad year I'm going to root for someone else. Oh look they're good again....oh wait nevemind. Do you have like 15 different team jersey's in your closet?
Blah, blah, blah. You aren't a fan. Yes, I am. No, you aren't. Yes, I am. No, you aren't because you don't like the team and because you don't hate Faver and the Vikings. Yes, I am. No, you aren't because you don't fit Webster's definition of what a fan is. Yes, I am. No, you aren't because you are the worst football fan of all time. ;) :lmao: at some of you.
There is no getting through to you. Simply put, I don't understand how any can root for a guy who stated several times he wants revenge on the Packers. For what, letting him become a hall of famer, paying him over $100 million dollars, supporting him through alcohol and painkiller addiction? One of the reasons, not the only, but one of the reasons Favre wanted to go to Vikings was because he knew it would divide the fan base. Unfortunately he was right. If you are a Packers fan, you don't root for the Vikings. The they are from the NFC North argument is weak as can be. That is the majority opinion of Packer fans and definitely of former players. I have heard at least 10 former players say if fans are truly Packer fans they will be rooting for the Vikings to lose. The same can be said for 99% of the media in Wisconsin as well. You can do whatver you want.
 
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Mario Kart said:
jurrassic said:
Mario Kart said:
Wow. You could be the worst football fan in the history of football.
Thank you for blindly following a team that can do anything and keep your loyalty. Your teams appreciate it.
fan  /fæn/–noun, an enthusiastic devotee, follower, or admirer of a sport, pastime, celebrityfanatic  /fəˈnætɪk/ –noun, a person with an extreme and uncritical enthusiasm or zeal That's the definition of fan. You can be critical but you don't switch allegiances. What you are describing yourself as is a fairweather fan, bandwagon fan, etc. I agree with the previous poster you may be the worst football fan in the history of football. Oh, they're good I like them. Wait a minute they had a bad year I'm going to root for someone else. Oh look they're good again....oh wait nevemind. Do you have like 15 different team jersey's in your closet?
Blah, blah, blah. You aren't a fan. Yes, I am. No, you aren't. Yes, I am. No, you aren't because you don't like the team and because you don't hate Faver and the Vikings. Yes, I am. No, you aren't because you don't fit Webster's definition of what a fan is. Yes, I am. No, you aren't because you are the worst football fan of all time. :lmao: :rant: at some of you.
There is no getting through to you. Simply put, I don't understand how any can root for a guy who stated several times he wants revenge on the Packers. For what, letting him become a hall of famer, paying him over $100 million dollars, supporting him through alcohol and painkiller addiction? One of the reasons, not the only, but one of the reasons Favre wanted to go to Vikings was because he knew it would divide the fan base. Unfortunately he was right. If you are a Packers fan, you don't root for the Vikings. The they are from the NFC North argument is weak as can be. That is the majority opinion of Packer fans and definitely of former players. I have heard at least 10 former players say if fans are truly Packer fans they will be rooting for the Vikings to lose. The same can be said for 99% of the media in Wisconsin as well. You can do whatver you want.
What is there to get through to me? You are right, I am wrong, hardy har har. Is that what you want?Quit acting like a child and go about your merry way. There is a huge gray area here but you, and others, want it to be black and white. You list the things Packers "gave" to Favre. But, did you ever think about what Favre gave to the Packers and especially the community of Green Bay? Get real. Favre brought that town more money than that town ever saw in its life. Have you been to Green Bay? It used to be a barren wasteland next to some water and the success the Packers had, with Favre, brought the town to where it is today. I guess you are more of a "what have you done for me lately" kind of guy instead of a "thanks for helping us through the years." :wall: :lmao:
 
I'm sure it's already been said...but IT'S JUST FOOTBALL. Three weeks from now if I am driving in Wisconsin and I pull over for gas, only to see some giant Packer-Backer gear wallpapering the gas station, it's not as if I'm going to take my business elsewhere or tell the station owner what a ###################### he is. People are just people, and football is just football. That said, two more wins out of the Vikings would make me SOOOO happy, as the next time Packer fans are being tools about kicking our ###es in 2010, 2011, 2012, etc., we'll be able to say "Yeah, but how long has it been since your team won a Super Bowl? Who was your QB for that one again? I can't remember. How'd that golden boy of yours at QB work out for you in the end? Didn't he have a bit-part in that movie Something About Mary?" Etc, etc. :)

 
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Lost some respect for him today.
Why. cuz he kicked your butt?
no actually i wanted minny to win. just didn't like tha fact that it was 28-3 with three minutes left in the game and he felt the need to throw for another td. i thought he had more class than that.
....and the Cowboys didn't rub it into the Eagles, and the Saints pulled back against the Cardinals??? Get a real perspective. That whole thing was brought on by coverage before the game, and Childress being an Eagle got pissed. You tell any QB in the NFL to go for it, and none of them are gonna be act like you. Go sell flowers or something....."not that there's anything wrong with that!"
Got the PMS huh, let me know when your period is over, I can't talk with you when you are this emotional
 
Quit acting like a child and go about your merry way. There is a huge gray area here but you, and others, want it to be black and white. You list the things Packers "gave" to Favre. But, did you ever think about what Favre gave to the Packers and especially the community of Green Bay? Get real. Favre brought that town more money than that town ever saw in its life. Have you been to Green Bay? It used to be a barren wasteland next to some water and the success the Packers had, with Favre, brought the town to where it is today. I guess you are more of a "what have you done for me lately" kind of guy instead of a "thanks for helping us through the years." :( :lmao:
WOW! Please stop.
 
Mario Kart said:
jurrassic said:
Mario Kart said:
Wow. You could be the worst football fan in the history of football.
Thank you for blindly following a team that can do anything and keep your loyalty. Your teams appreciate it.
fan  /fæn/–noun, an enthusiastic devotee, follower, or admirer of a sport, pastime, celebrityfanatic  /fəˈnætɪk/ –noun, a person with an extreme and uncritical enthusiasm or zeal That's the definition of fan. You can be critical but you don't switch allegiances. What you are describing yourself as is a fairweather fan, bandwagon fan, etc. I agree with the previous poster you may be the worst football fan in the history of football. Oh, they're good I like them. Wait a minute they had a bad year I'm going to root for someone else. Oh look they're good again....oh wait nevemind. Do you have like 15 different team jersey's in your closet?
Blah, blah, blah. You aren't a fan. Yes, I am. No, you aren't. Yes, I am. No, you aren't because you don't like the team and because you don't hate Faver and the Vikings. Yes, I am. No, you aren't because you don't fit Webster's definition of what a fan is. Yes, I am. No, you aren't because you are the worst football fan of all time. :goodposting: :goodposting: at some of you.
There is no getting through to you. Simply put, I don't understand how any can root for a guy who stated several times he wants revenge on the Packers. For what, letting him become a hall of famer, paying him over $100 million dollars, supporting him through alcohol and painkiller addiction? One of the reasons, not the only, but one of the reasons Favre wanted to go to Vikings was because he knew it would divide the fan base. Unfortunately he was right. If you are a Packers fan, you don't root for the Vikings. The they are from the NFC North argument is weak as can be. That is the majority opinion of Packer fans and definitely of former players. I have heard at least 10 former players say if fans are truly Packer fans they will be rooting for the Vikings to lose. The same can be said for 99% of the media in Wisconsin as well. You can do whatver you want.
One of the most idiotic posts I have seen. You Favre haters really have issues. There is now way as a Packer fan I am going to ignore what Favre brought to Packer fans. He plays the game in a way we all should hope more players did. He was run out of GB and I wish him all the best. I am not cheering for the Vikings to win. I am cheering for Favre to win and continue to make all this damn foolish haters look like the tools they are all. I have loved this season and how it has shut up some of the idiots that take pride in bashing a HOF QB.
 
For what it is worth, I root for Sharper and Longwell to do well too. In all honesty nothing else makes much sense to me. And I really could care less whether other GB fans now hope they do poorly. I like them because they wore green and gold the way it should be worn and just because they now play for another team does not change that. Not so much with Walker and some others.

I like Favre because I am GB fan and see no reason I cannot root for both.

I also wish my ex-girlfriends all the happiness in the world. Do you wish them misery? Not even the ones that cheated on me.

 
Yep. Culpepper, Moss, Sharper, Birk and other former Vikings have been players I've never rooted against. I'll root against Sharper this weekend (lol), but I wish him all the best in the remainder of his career. He gave us some good seasons here in Minnesota (like he did in Green Bay), so best of luck to him with the Saints (after Sunday) or whatever other team he decides to play for. :pickle:

 
Quit acting like a child and go about your merry way. There is a huge gray area here but you, and others, want it to be black and white. You list the things Packers "gave" to Favre. But, did you ever think about what Favre gave to the Packers and especially the community of Green Bay? Get real. Favre brought that town more money than that town ever saw in its life. Have you been to Green Bay? It used to be a barren wasteland next to some water and the success the Packers had, with Favre, brought the town to where it is today. I guess you are more of a "what have you done for me lately" kind of guy instead of a "thanks for helping us through the years." :X :lmao:
WOW! Please stop.
Still here.
There is no getting through to you. Simply put, I don't understand how any can root for a guy who stated several times he wants revenge on the Packers. For what, letting him become a hall of famer, paying him over $100 million dollars, supporting him through alcohol and painkiller addiction? One of the reasons, not the only, but one of the reasons Favre wanted to go to Vikings was because he knew it would divide the fan base. Unfortunately he was right. If you are a Packers fan, you don't root for the Vikings. The they are from the NFC North argument is weak as can be. That is the majority opinion of Packer fans and definitely of former players. I have heard at least 10 former players say if fans are truly Packer fans they will be rooting for the Vikings to lose. The same can be said for 99% of the media in Wisconsin as well. You can do whatver you want.
One of the most idiotic posts I have seen. You Favre haters really have issues. There is now way as a Packer fan I am going to ignore what Favre brought to Packer fans. He plays the game in a way we all should hope more players did. He was run out of GB and I wish him all the best. I am not cheering for the Vikings to win. I am cheering for Favre to win and continue to make all this damn foolish haters look like the tools they are all. I have loved this season and how it has shut up some of the idiots that take pride in bashing a HOF QB.
:goodposting: :mellow:
 

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