Broncos vs Patriots pregame chatter. Broncos 3.5pt favorites (1 Viewer)

[devouredbychaos]

Even though it's 6 days away, the current forecast calls for a low of 30 and a high of 42, with 50% chance of snow and strong gusts. There's a looming storm moving up the coast towards New England, so that could definitely change the forecast. Broncos are 3.5pt favorites, Peyton always has struggles against the Pats and at Gillette, and usually doesn't play as well in the cold and wind. Brady looks to be performing on all cylinders and with a fully healthy Gronk, the offense is finally clicking. Denver offense has been on fire too, and their defense looks better than last year..and so does the Pats secondary. So the question is, who ya got?

I'll say Patriots over Broncos 38-34 in a close game coming down to the last drive in which Manning throws a pick to seal the win for the Pats.

 

[jurb26]

I'll take the home team. This should be a great game I'm guessing far less scoring than people think.

NE 24 Den 20

 

[Omniscient Deity]

These games are why I love football.

 

[devouredbychaos]

I think they'll play again this season.

This.

And this could potentially be one of the best games all season with the way these two teams are playing right now.

 

[Kool-Aid Larry]

LLLLLLLLLLET'S GET READY TO RUMMMMBLLLLLLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[moleculo]

I think they'll play again this season.

This.

And this could potentially be one of the best games all season with the way these two teams are playing right now.

lol, I meant to post this in a Brady/Manning thread so I deleted it here, but I guess it works here too.

I think Broncos are bringing a better team - solid up and down. If there's a weakness right now, it's not glaring. This team is relatively healthy, and everything is clicking at a high level.

The Patriots are a very good team too. They certainly are capable of beating the Broncos - IMO this should be a pick 'em type of game, could go either way, especially with the wind. Funny things tend to happen in Foxboro.

 

[BobbyLayne]

In the 5-1/2 seasons since Brady came back from his ACL/MCL, the Pats are 41-3 at home.

After losing the AFCCG 9 months ago, Brady leads the all-time head to head 10-5. It's 2-2 in the postseason - the home team QB has never lost.

Brady started his career 10-0 in the playoffs, 8-8 since.

Manning has gone 8-7 during that span, 11-12 overall.

The two greatest quarterbacks of the millennium. Don't how many more times we'll see this, but I always look forward to it.

 

[Chase Stuart]

Even though it's 6 days away, the current forecast calls for a low of 30 and a high of 42, with 50% chance of snow and strong gusts. There's a looming storm moving up the coast towards New England, so that could definitely change the forecast. Broncos are 3.5pt favorites, Peyton always has struggles against the Pats and at Gillette, and usually doesn't play as well in the cold and wind. Brady looks to be performing on all cylinders and with a fully healthy Gronk, the offense is finally clicking. Denver offense has been on fire too, and their defense looks better than last year..and so does the Pats secondary. So the question is, who ya got?

I'll say Patriots over Broncos 38-34 in a close game coming down to the last drive in which Manning throws a pick to seal the win for the Pats.

The last time Peyton struggled in a regular season game at Gilette was what, 2001? Last year his numbers were down, but I wouldn't say he struggled. He switched to a run-heavy game plan and Moreno went off.

 

[General Tso]

Big big game for the Pats. They have to win home field advantage throughout the playoffs. No way can they beat Denver in Denver.

 

[wilked]

Only 4 of the 16 AFC teams has a losing record right now... There will not be a large margin of error for making playoffs so each game matters.

Is this game possible to be flexed to Sun night?

 

[Kool-Aid Larry]

Let’s look at the two QBs since Brady’s horrific Monday night performance four weeks ago” Brady: 100 of 144, 1,268 yards, 14 touchdowns, no interceptions, 69.4 percent completion percentage, 8.8 yards per attempt, 129.1 passer rating Manning: 100 of 141, 1,320 yards, 14 touchdowns, no interceptions, 70.9 completion percentage, 9.4 yards per attempt, 133.3 passer ratingRead more at: http://nesn.com/2014/10/tom-brady-outplaying-peyton-manning-after-rough-start-to-2014-season/

Broncos targets have dropped just five of his passes over the last four games, and only five more of his incompletions were because of throwaways, batted passes or times when he was hit while throwing, per Pro Football Focus. Brady’s receivers have dropped 10 passes over the last four games, and 10 more incompletions were because of throwaways, batted passes or times when he was hit while throwing.Read more at: http://nesn.com/2014/10/tom-brady-outplaying-peyton-manning-after-rough-start-to-2014-season/

Brady has completed 8 of 14 attempts over 20 yards for 264 yards with four touchdowns, while Manning has completed 9 of 16 deep passes for 360 yards with five touchdowns.Read more at: http://nesn.com/2014/10/tom-brady-outplaying-peyton-manning-after-rough-start-to-2014-season/

 

[Modog814]

Am I the only who who really doesn't think this game will be close? Denver is better in almost every facet of the game. The only thing NE has going for them is Home field and coach. Denver 35-20.

 

[Run It Up]

Am I the only who who really doesn't think this game will be close? Denver is better in almost every facet of the game. The only thing NE has going for them is Home field and coach. Denver 35-20.

Really? Even depleted I think NE has the better defense.

 

[AngryPatriot]

Am I the only who who really doesn't think this game will be close? Denver is better in almost every facet of the game. The only thing NE has going for them is Home field and coach. Denver 35-20.

Huh? lol. Brady just tossed 4 TD's in the 1st half, with Edelman taking a back seat, Vereen hardly involved, Wright becoming an option, Grey running hard etc etc... The NE offense is clicking, it's probably left to whose D plays the best. I like the Pats in this one!!

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

Am I the only who who really doesn't think this game will be close? Denver is better in almost every facet of the game. The only thing NE has going for them is Home field and coach. Denver 35-20.

Really? Even depleted I think NE has the better defense.

you are nuts.

Why is this regular season game always in Foxboro?

 

[Kool-Aid Larry]

Am I the only who who really doesn't think this game will be close?

nah, there's probably a ton of bandwagon broncos fans

 

[Modog814]

Am I the only who who really doesn't think this game will be close? Denver is better in almost every facet of the game. The only thing NE has going for them is Home field and coach. Denver 35-20.

Really? Even depleted I think NE has the better defense.

I expect differing opinions, but yes, in my opinion, I'd take Denver's over New England. They struggle to stop the run, that's what really separates them in my mind. I think Denver has the advantage in pass rush, but it's closer and I think due to the ability to stop the run and the pass rush they are better at stopping the pass too. I think one can argue that New England has the better secondary on a talent level, but as a unit, I'd take Denver.

PFF agrees with me... Denver ranked 3rd best Defense overall (score of 50.4). New England 16th (-1.5 score). They have Denver ranked better in every defensive facet except for Penalties.

 

[Run It Up]

Am I the only who who really doesn't think this game will be close? Denver is better in almost every facet of the game. The only thing NE has going for them is Home field and coach. Denver 35-20.

Really? Even depleted I think NE has the better defense.

I expect differing opinions, but yes, in my opinion, I'd take Denver's over New England. They struggle to stop the run, that's what really separates them in my mind. I think Denver has the advantage in pass rush, but it's closer and I think due to the ability to stop the run and the pass rush they are better at stopping the pass too. I think one can argue that New England has the better secondary on a talent level, but as a unit, I'd take Denver.

PFF agrees with me... Denver ranked 3rd best Defense overall (score of 50.4). New England 16th (-1.5 score). They have Denver ranked better in every defensive facet except for Penalties.

Everytime NE has played Manning the game plan has been make them run the ball, and more often then not it was directly responsible for Manning losing.

 

[Bronco Billy]

Am I the only who who really doesn't think this game will be close? Denver is better in almost every facet of the game. The only thing NE has going for them is Home field and coach. Denver 35-20.

Huh? lol. Brady just tossed 4 TD's in the 1st half, with Edelman taking a back seat, Vereen hardly involved, Wright becoming an option, Grey running hard etc etc... The NE offense is clicking, it's probably left to whose D plays the best. I like the Pats in this one!!

Good point. Given how DEN and CHI are evenly comparable in almost every aspect of the game, you should expect the same results this weekend.

 

[Modog814]

Am I the only who who really doesn't think this game will be close? Denver is better in almost every facet of the game. The only thing NE has going for them is Home field and coach. Denver 35-20.

Really? Even depleted I think NE has the better defense.

I expect differing opinions, but yes, in my opinion, I'd take Denver's over New England. They struggle to stop the run, that's what really separates them in my mind. I think Denver has the advantage in pass rush, but it's closer and I think due to the ability to stop the run and the pass rush they are better at stopping the pass too. I think one can argue that New England has the better secondary on a talent level, but as a unit, I'd take Denver.

PFF agrees with me... Denver ranked 3rd best Defense overall (score of 50.4). New England 16th (-1.5 score). They have Denver ranked better in every defensive facet except for Penalties.

Everytime NE has played Manning the game plan has been make them run the ball, and more often then not it was directly responsible for Manning losing.

Okay. Not sure what that has to do with anything, considering it was the past. In this game...the Denver Run game versus the New England run defense I think is a huge advantage to Denver.

I'm not a Bronco fan nor a Patriot fan. In my eyes this game isn't close and wanted to know if I was missing something other than blind homerism (on either side, not saying you're doing it)

 

[shady inc]

i think it ends in a tie. 41-41

 

[Wrigley]

NE has been playing, and barely beating, tomato cans

Denver in a beat down.

 

[Baloney Sandwich]

NE has been playing, and barely beating, tomato cans

Denver in a beat down.

This, they barely squeaked by Cincy and Chicago

 

[Anarchy99]

I cannot emphasize enough that all statistics go out the window when the teams suit up and take the field.

But Manning is 2-10 playing in New England (vs. 6-4 playing against the Pats at home) with the Pats average margin of victory being 7 points. You have to wonder if he just hears footsteps that aren't really there playing in Foxboro and he gets even happier feet.

 

[Wrigley]

NE has been playing, and barely beating, tomato cans

Denver in a beat down.

This, they barely squeaked by Oakland and the Jets

 

[Run It Up]

NE has been playing, and barely beating, tomato cans

Denver in a beat down.

This, they barely squeaked by Oakland and the Jets

Oakland was game three of the season, we had 3 rookie Olinemen and I believe we had 13 different lineups that game. Against the Jets Connolly (veteran anchor at this point) and Stork (the only rookie actually performing well at the time) were both out.

Jets played a tough game though, it was probably the worst game of the past two years for the Pats, going into that game Geno had thrown a pick every single game and the Pats were leading the league in takeaways. Well, they just ran the ball all game - no picks were thrown, no takeaways were had so the game was closer.

 

[devouredbychaos]

Am I the only who who really doesn't think this game will be close? Denver is better in almost every facet of the game. The only thing NE has going for them is Home field and coach. Denver 35-20.

Really? Even depleted I think NE has the better defense.

I expect differing opinions, but yes, in my opinion, I'd take Denver's over New England. They struggle to stop the run, that's what really separates them in my mind. I think Denver has the advantage in pass rush, but it's closer and I think due to the ability to stop the run and the pass rush they are better at stopping the pass too. I think one can argue that New England has the better secondary on a talent level, but as a unit, I'd take Denver.

PFF agrees with me... Denver ranked 3rd best Defense overall (score of 50.4). New England 16th (-1.5 score). They have Denver ranked better in every defensive facet except for Penalties.

Everytime NE has played Manning the game plan has been make them run the ball, and more often then not it was directly responsible for Manning losing.

Okay. Not sure what that has to do with anything, considering it was the past. In this game...the Denver Run game versus the New England run defense I think is a huge advantage to Denver.

I'm not a Bronco fan nor a Patriot fan. In my eyes this game isn't close and wanted to know if I was missing something other than blind homerism (on either side, not saying you're doing it)

Ronnie Hillman isn't exactly Forte, McCoy, or even Moreno. He's not as much of a threat as you think. I'm sure they'll try to run it as much as they can, but the Pats secondary is much improved..and Brady looks better than he did when they met last year. Besides Rivers and Luck, what other QBs has Denver had to stop? Brady is better than all of them, especially at home. Of course the same argument can be had for the Pats defense, but when you've got Revis and McCourty back there it's not as big of an issue

 

[devouredbychaos]

NE has been playing, and barely beating, tomato cans

Denver in a beat down.

This, they barely squeaked by Oakland and the Jets

And Denver barely beat the Jets and lost to a very beatable Seahawks team, your point? The Patriots aren't the same team as they were against Oakland, it's pretty obvious if you've seen any of their past few games.

 

[moleculo]

NE has been playing, and barely beating, tomato cans

Denver in a beat down.

This, they barely squeaked by Oakland and the Jets

And Denver barely beat the Jets and lost to a very beatable Seahawks team, your point? The Patriots aren't the same team as they were against Oakland, it's pretty obvious if you've seen any of their past few games.

31-17 is barely beating the Jets?

 

[Wrigley]

Barely beat the Jets? 31-17?

NE has played 4 teams that currently have winning records.

2-2 on those games

 

[Run It Up]

And the Broncos have veteran studs literally throughout their entire roster, whats your point?

Took the Pats a few weeks to get their Oline settled and their offense rolling, defense has been fine all year - best pass defense in the league all year. The Broncos had no troubles adjusting this season, their wasn't much to adjust from to.

 

[moleculo]

Am I the only who who really doesn't think this game will be close? Denver is better in almost every facet of the game. The only thing NE has going for them is Home field and coach. Denver 35-20.

Really? Even depleted I think NE has the better defense.

I expect differing opinions, but yes, in my opinion, I'd take Denver's over New England. They struggle to stop the run, that's what really separates them in my mind. I think Denver has the advantage in pass rush, but it's closer and I think due to the ability to stop the run and the pass rush they are better at stopping the pass too. I think one can argue that New England has the better secondary on a talent level, but as a unit, I'd take Denver.

PFF agrees with me... Denver ranked 3rd best Defense overall (score of 50.4). New England 16th (-1.5 score). They have Denver ranked better in every defensive facet except for Penalties.

Everytime NE has played Manning the game plan has been make them run the ball, and more often then not it was directly responsible for Manning losing.

Okay. Not sure what that has to do with anything, considering it was the past. In this game...the Denver Run game versus the New England run defense I think is a huge advantage to Denver.

I'm not a Bronco fan nor a Patriot fan. In my eyes this game isn't close and wanted to know if I was missing something other than blind homerism (on either side, not saying you're doing it)

Ronnie Hillman isn't exactly Forte, McCoy, or even Moreno. He's not as much of a threat as you think. I'm sure they'll try to run it as much as they can, but the Pats secondary is much improved..and Brady looks better than he did when they met last year. Besides Rivers and Luck, what other QBs has Denver had to stop? Brady is better than all of them, especially at home. Of course the same argument can be had for the Pats defense, but when you've got Revis and McCourty back there it's not as big of an issue

Alex Smith, and Russell Wilson both played in the pro-bowl last year. So, those 2 plus Rivers and Luck = 4 pro-bowl QB's over the past 6 games.

Composite QB rating for Bronco opposing QB's = 82.3, 6th best in the league. Broncos giving up 6.3 Y/A, 2nd best in the league.

don't discount this Bronco D. They are a legit top 5 defense.

 

[moleculo]

And the Broncos have veteran studs literally throughout their entire roster, whats your point?

Took the Pats a few weeks to get their Oline settled and their offense rolling, defense has been fine all year - best pass defense in the league all year. The Broncos had no troubles adjusting this season, their wasn't much to adjust from to.

how so?

 

[Run It Up]

And the Broncos have veteran studs literally throughout their entire roster, whats your point?

Took the Pats a few weeks to get their Oline settled and their offense rolling, defense has been fine all year - best pass defense in the league all year. The Broncos had no troubles adjusting this season, their wasn't much to adjust from to.

how so?

Upon looking up the specific id have to concede that KC is actually killing it in regards to pass D, that being said Pats are second in average pass yds allowed per game, top 10 in sacks, ints and opponent completion percentage and have not allowed a pass over 38 yards all season (1st).

Revis and Mccourty have been doing work and Browner aside from a few dumb penalties looked amazing last week.

Third in takeaways at this point (Denver T24th), led most of the year and lead in takeaway differential (Denver T8th.)

 

[moleculo]

And the Broncos have veteran studs literally throughout their entire roster, whats your point?

Took the Pats a few weeks to get their Oline settled and their offense rolling, defense has been fine all year - best pass defense in the league all year. The Broncos had no troubles adjusting this season, their wasn't much to adjust from to.

how so?

Upon looking up the specific id have to concede that KC is actually killing it in regards to pass D, that being said Pats are second in average pass yds allowed per game, top 10 in sacks, ints and opponent completion percentage and have not allowed a pass over 38 yards all season (1st).

Revis and Mccourty have been doing work and Browner aside from a few dumb penalties looked amazing last week.

Third in takeaways at this point, led most of the year and lead in takeaway differential.

ok. So against the team you concede is ahead of NE, Manning was 21 for 26, 242 yards 3 TD, 0 int. I'd take those kind of numbers in Foxboro.

Bronco pass D is 2nd in yards/attempt (NE is 7th), 6th in QB rating (NE is 11th), 7th in sacks (NE is 10th), 5th in completion percentage (NE is 10th).

The only metric where NE pass defense is better than Denver is total yards, which is what happens when opponents average 42 pass attempts against you. Of course, the reason teams are throwing on Denver is because (A) they can't run and (B) because they are behind in the 4th.

edit: all this was against QB's of whom over half were pro-bowlers last year.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

NE has been playing, and barely beating, tomato cans

Denver in a beat down.

This, they barely squeaked by Oakland and the Jets

And Denver barely beat the Jets and lost to a very beatable Seahawks team, your point? The Patriots aren't the same team as they were against Oakland, it's pretty obvious if you've seen any of their past few games.

31-17 is barely beating the Jets?

It's all relative.

 

[LoadLetterPaper]

When I want to read/hear expert coverage on the NFL, I come here or watch ESPN.

 

[devouredbychaos]

Barely beat the Jets? 31-17?

NE has played 4 teams that currently have winning records.

2-2 on those games

The Jets could've won that game..but they're the Jets so obviously they didn't but it was a close game until halfway through the second half. It was 24-17 with the Jets driving and Talib got a pick 6 to put the game away. The Broncos struggled in that game, there's no denying it.

Discount the Pats wins all you want with your useless facts, but they're one of the best teams in the league and have Brady at the helm of an offense that's finally clicking. No reason why the Pats can't win this game, especially with the way Peyton plays in Foxboro.

 

[devouredbychaos]

And might I add that the last time Manning beat Brady in Foxboro during the regular season was 2006.

 

[Run It Up]

And the Broncos have veteran studs literally throughout their entire roster, whats your point?

Took the Pats a few weeks to get their Oline settled and their offense rolling, defense has been fine all year - best pass defense in the league all year. The Broncos had no troubles adjusting this season, their wasn't much to adjust from to.

how so?

Upon looking up the specific id have to concede that KC is actually killing it in regards to pass D, that being said Pats are second in average pass yds allowed per game, top 10 in sacks, ints and opponent completion percentage and have not allowed a pass over 38 yards all season (1st).

Revis and Mccourty have been doing work and Browner aside from a few dumb penalties looked amazing last week.

Third in takeaways at this point, led most of the year and lead in takeaway differential.

ok. So against the team you concede is ahead of NE, Manning was 21 for 26, 242 yards 3 TD, 0 int. I'd take those kind of numbers in Foxboro.

Bronco pass D is 2nd in yards/attempt (NE is 7th), 6th in QB rating (NE is 11th), 7th in sacks (NE is 10th), 5th in completion percentage (NE is 10th).

The only metric where NE pass defense is better than Denver is total yards, which is what happens when opponents average 42 pass attempts against you. Of course, the reason teams are throwing on Denver is because (A) they can't run and (B) because they are behind in the 4th.

edit: all this was against QB's of whom over half were pro-bowlers last year.

I'm not gonna argue NE hasn't had the softer schedule, because they have. But the Pats do lead the Broncos in several metrics, likewise the Broncos lead the Pats in several metrics. The Broncos have one of the best Run Ds in the league atm, talent wise and situation wise with teams rarely having the opportunity to run against them. Likewise the Pats takeaway offense and ability to shutdown crucial pieces I think is pretty damn significant to this matchup.

A large part of the reason Manning has been lights out last year and this year is simply his weapons, the Pats won't be able to shut down everyone, what is gonna matter is whether Manning decides to take responsibility for winning the game or not, if he sits back as hes known to do against NE and not put the game at risk by handing it off all day they will be in trouble.

If NE wins the turnover battle in this game, they win the game imo. If the Broncos decide to run all day, the Patriots win, imo. Obviously no illusions that the opposite isn't also true. This game will be a shootout on both sides of the ball.

 

[moleculo]

Barely beat the Jets? 31-17?

NE has played 4 teams that currently have winning records.

2-2 on those games

The Jets could've won that game..but they're the Jets so obviously they didn't but it was a close game until halfway through the second half. It was 24-17 with the Jets driving and Talib got a pick 6 to put the game away. The Broncos struggled in that game, there's no denying it.

Discount the Pats wins all you want with your useless facts, but they're one of the best teams in the league and have Brady at the helm of an offense that's finally clicking. No reason why the Pats can't win this game, especially with the way Peyton plays in Foxboro.

dude...it was 24-10 headed into the 4th when Denver gave up a garbage time TD with 8:00 left. Each team traded a 3-out (Broncos were stymied by an unfortunate penalty there). Broncos got the ball back with 5:00 left, ate almost 4 minutes and 3 NYJ time-outs, before punting the ball to the Jets 5 yard line.

When you say, "Jets driving", the reality is they were down by a TD, on their own 5 yard line, and 0:56 to go, no time-outs, and did nothing but go backwards.

The game was not close.

 

[moleculo]

And the Broncos have veteran studs literally throughout their entire roster, whats your point?

Took the Pats a few weeks to get their Oline settled and their offense rolling, defense has been fine all year - best pass defense in the league all year. The Broncos had no troubles adjusting this season, their wasn't much to adjust from to.

how so?

Upon looking up the specific id have to concede that KC is actually killing it in regards to pass D, that being said Pats are second in average pass yds allowed per game, top 10 in sacks, ints and opponent completion percentage and have not allowed a pass over 38 yards all season (1st).

Revis and Mccourty have been doing work and Browner aside from a few dumb penalties looked amazing last week.

Third in takeaways at this point, led most of the year and lead in takeaway differential.

ok. So against the team you concede is ahead of NE, Manning was 21 for 26, 242 yards 3 TD, 0 int. I'd take those kind of numbers in Foxboro.

Bronco pass D is 2nd in yards/attempt (NE is 7th), 6th in QB rating (NE is 11th), 7th in sacks (NE is 10th), 5th in completion percentage (NE is 10th).

The only metric where NE pass defense is better than Denver is total yards, which is what happens when opponents average 42 pass attempts against you. Of course, the reason teams are throwing on Denver is because (A) they can't run and (B) because they are behind in the 4th.

edit: all this was against QB's of whom over half were pro-bowlers last year.

I'm not gonna argue NE hasn't had the softer schedule, because they have. But the Pats do lead the Broncos in several metrics, likewise the Broncos lead the Pats in several metrics. The Broncos have one of the best Run Ds in the league atm, talent wise and situation wise with teams rarely having the opportunity to run against them. Likewise the Pats takeaway offense and ability to shutdown crucial pieces I think is pretty damn significant to this matchup.

A large part of the reason Manning has been lights out last year and this year is simply his weapons, the Pats won't be able to shut down everyone, what is gonna matter is whether Manning decides to take responsibility for winning the game or not, if he sits back as hes known to do against NE and not put the game at risk by handing it off all day they will be in trouble.

If NE wins the turnover battle in this game, they win the game imo. If the Broncos decide to run all day, the Patriots win, imo. Obviously no illusions that the opposite isn't also true. This game will be a shootout on both sides of the ball.

I don't disagree. I'm just pointing out that what you considered the best pass D in the league, Denver could be considered better, depending on the metric.

Pats have had a lot of turnovers. Denver has not. That could be a deciding factor.

I don't agree, however, that Denver loses if they decide to run all day. What matters is how effectively they run, and what happens in the red-zone. Ultimately, what cost the Broncos the game last year (from a Bronco fan perspective) was not Moreno running the ball, it was untimely turnovers in the 2nd half, especially the muffed punt return in OT.

Fox/Gase have been forcing the running game all season. I expect more of the same. It's been a work in progress; there has been a lot of tinkering in terms of swapping out pieces @ RT, playing around with 2 or 3 TE sets, and changing Julius Thomas' assignments around to make things easier. I know it's hard to believe, but the Broncos want to run.

 

[Ghost Rider]

That is odd that the Broncos have had to play at New England all years Peyton has been in Denver. Yeah, I'll go with the word "odd."

While the Broncos are the better team right now, I think NE will win. Like has been pointed out, the home team usually wins in the Peyton/Brady match-ups, especially in the last 10 years (2007 was the last time the road team won). Home field and Belichick will give NE enough of an advantage to pull out the narrow victory.

 

[Ghost Rider]

Also, saying Peyton always has struggles against the Patriots...yeah, I suspect anybody who would say that didn't see last year's AFCCG.

 

[Run It Up]

Also, saying Peyton always has struggles against the Patriots...yeah, I suspect anybody who would say that didn't see last year's AFCCG.

Its not unusual for there to be exceptions to rules.

 

[Ghost Rider]

That's why "almost always" is better to use than "always."

Besides, Manning has done pretty well against the Patriots overall since the 2004 divisional round loss.

 

[Kool-Aid Larry]

Jeff Howe , Boston Hearald, Patriots Beat Writer
Difference between Pats and Broncos, Talib said, "In the home games, the Patriots wear blue. For home games for Denver, we wear our orange."

The schedule template for the 2015 season does include a home game for the Broncos to play the AFC East team that finishes the regular season in the same slot in that division as the Broncos finish in the AFC West this year.

 

[devouredbychaos]

That's why "almost always" is better to use than "always."

Besides, Manning has done pretty well against the Patriots overall since the 2004 divisional round loss.

Not really. Brady is 6-5 vs Manning since that loss. It's close, but Brady still has the edge.

 

[devouredbychaos]

Also, saying Peyton always has struggles against the Patriots...yeah, I suspect anybody who would say that didn't see last year's AFCCG.

He has struggles in Foxboro, not so much when he's played at home in Denver or Indy.

 

[thekidd2009]

the Pats pass d has been good but comeon they've played derek carr ryan tanehill matt cassell alex smith andy dalton geno smith kyle orton and jay cutler.....