**Denver at Cleveland**(-1.5) O/U 40.5...The Bridgewater-Keenum Bowl TNF-Game Thread (1 Viewer)

[travdogg]

Feels like a ticky tack facemask call

 

[renesauz]

Javonte should have been flagged as well

 

[amnesiac]

Feels like a ticky tack facemask call

seems like they’ve been calling that more this year.  

 

[travdogg]

Ward with a hammy now?

 

[C-Bound]

IMO Gordon absolutely is 1A in this backfield.  He enters in the middle of the series and I have not seen this from Javonte.

 

[rockaction]

IMO Gordon absolutely is 1A in this backfield.  He enters in the middle of the series and I have not seen this from Javonte.

It's actually more like one series for Gordon, one for Javonte, Javonte starts the next, they pull him at the fifty. That's how the sequence went. They're clearly splitting time painstakingly evenly tonight. 

 

[The Gator]

Ward with a hammy now?

Looked like it 

 

[amnesiac]

Ward with a hammy now?

yep.  hope it’s not serious.  

 

[C-Bound]

It's actually more like one series for Gordon, one for Javonte, Javonte starts the next, they pull him at the fifty. That's how the sequence went. They're clearly splitting time painstakingly evenly tonight. 

I disagree.  3rd and 1 this last "Javonte" series and Gordon comes in and...stays in so far.

 

[renesauz]

It's actually more like one series for Gordon, one for Javonte, Javonte starts, they pull him at the fifty. That's how the sequence went. They're clearly splitting time painstakingly evenly tonight. 

There's a lot to like about Williams, but the idea that he's outplayed Gordon is false. They've been pretty equivalent and given that they SHOULD be splitting it nearly even

 

[Bracie Smathers]

Ugh.  Von Miller knee.

Jeremy Fowler@JFowlerESPN

Source says Von Miller’s X-Ray came back ‘clean,’ not returning to the game out of caution. So, appears no structural damage for Miller.

 

[renesauz]

I disagree.  3 and 1 this last "Javonte" series with and Gordon comes in and...stays in so far.

Javonte had the previous series though (was 3 and out....which perhaps explains why he got the first few snaps of this one?)

 

[rockaction]

There's a lot to like about Williams, but the idea that he's outplayed Gordon is false. They've been pretty equivalent and given that they SHOULD be splitting it nearly even

Yeah, I'm not really arguing one way or the other. It seems that Williams is more dynamic, and it's showing up in YPC. That said, Gordon brings veteran skills and probably a little more pass-catching ability to the table. 

 

[rockaction]

Javonte had the previous series though (was 3 and out....which perhaps explains why he got the first few snaps of this one?)

That's what I was trying to convey. Yes, that's what happened. 

 

[rockaction]

Still a game here. 

 

[C-Bound]

That's what I was trying to convey. Yes, that's what happened. 

Ok, yes that's true but why not let Javonte get in any kind of rhythm since he started this drive?

 

[amnesiac]

why did Cleveland take a TO?

 

[rockaction]

Ok, yes that's true but why not let Javonte get in any kind of rhythm since he started this drive?

As Lou Reed would say, "I wanna play football for the Coach"

Ask Fangio. 

 

[travdogg]

Can still mix a run Denver

 

[jbz]

Ok, yes that's true but why not let Javonte get in any kind of rhythm since he started this drive?

It's like someone counts snaps and they rotate regardless of flow or situation 

 

[rockaction]

It's like someone counts snaps and they rotate regardless of flow or situation 

Williams back in. 

 

[renesauz]

he was short but is it worth a challenge?

 

[C-Bound]

Williams back in. 

So odd...

 

[rockaction]

Let's see if we can't get a fantasy day here with a Williams touchdown. 

That'd be sweet. 

 

[rockaction]

he was short but is it worth a challenge?

Yeah, I'd say definitely. If you win it, you put all the pressure on them. 

 

[travdogg]

he was short but is it worth a challenge?

Absolutely it is. Denver may kick a FG since they need 2 scores. If they go and don't get it, the game is probably over.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

The Broncos appear to have installed one and only one passing play.

 

[Insein]

Pretty clear short a yard. 

Go for it. 

 

[amnesiac]

he was short but is it worth a challenge?

no

 

[Courtjester]

I just don’t get why Denver decides to run this open offense starting in the  fourth quarter And the rest of the game it is so conservative. 

 

[Insein]

Absolutely it is. Denver may kick a FG since they need 2 scores. If they go and don't get it, the game is probably over.

No chance they get down this close again. Go for it. 

 

[rockaction]

The Broncos appear to have installed one and only one passing play.

This is what I was thinking about halfway through the last drive. They really wanna roll Bridgewater out and have everybody running routes to that side of the field. 

 

[renesauz]

Yeah, I'd say definitely. If you win it, you put all the pressure on them. 

actually thought that was 2nd down play. IN which case I dont think it would be worth it. 3rd down play changes that

 

[Insein]

This is what I was thinking about halfway through the last drive. They really wanna roll Bridgewater out and have everybody running routes to that side of the field. 

It was working. 

 

[Stoneworker]

I just don’t get why Denver decides to run this open offense starting in the  fourth quarter And the rest of the game it is so conservative. 

You and the rest of Broncos Country

 

[rockaction]

Here's game

 

[rockaction]

Game still on

 

[renesauz]

Game still on

barely

 

[travdogg]

No idea why Denver has abandoned the run here

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Horrible play call on 4th and 1, even if they do make it, you could tell they were going to go QB sneak and it was an awful call, it's not like they are grinding out for a win, they need 2 scores, kinda need to get in the end zone or kick the FG quickly to extend the game. 

 

[rockaction]

No idea why Denver has abandoned the run here

I'm shuked. 

 

[amnesiac]

Greedy!

 

[rockaction]

YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

 

[renesauz]

Let's see if we can't get a fantasy day here with a Williams touchdown. 

That'd be sweet. 

there ya go

 

[travdogg]

Great call with the screen, love seeing those inside the 10, super hard to defend

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Williams is going to clear 15+ in PPR tonight, pretty nice for those who had the balls to play him. Wasn't looking good. 

 

[Insein]

Well done. At least they are covering right now. 

 

[Courtjester]

Very happy with that!!!

 

[rockaction]

there ya go

Thanks for the support. 

They really are 1A and 1B and splitting time, and for good reason. If Williams was Jonathan Taylor, it'd be harder to keep him on the sideline, but he's not. 

 

[travdogg]

Still 5 minutes left, Browns can't just run out the clock. Really hope this isn't an OT game.