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They were actually 2nd in defensive YPG, 9th in PPG. 7 of their starters have already been drafted.
Only 7 teams gave up more yards than the Pats. I see them as ranked 25th in yards.
Oops your right on the yards. But that will happen when you have a good offense and teams pass a lot to keep up. They were 9th in points in 9th in rush YPG.
http://espn.go.com/nfl/statistics/team/_/stat/total/sort/netYardsPerGame/position/defense
Really, some combo of yards-allowed-per-possession and turnovers-per-possession would be best.
Patriots - tied for 5th in INTs, 2nd in turnovers. Yet the defense was terrible?
Not according to me! Just weighing in on the metric debate. :handsupbacksaway:
I didn't realize I was
You didn't get my text at 9:51 EST?
Sorry didnt notice it until now. My phone was docked , usualy its in my pocket
Great?
I can't argue it. PFF has him 4th overall.
one thing to think about - we're in round 12; everyone we're taking here is in the top 1/4 of the NFL.
Nice one, I sort of considered him over D.Moore, but his recent recurring injuries scared me.
He's been very solid through the years (never what I'd call great), and is certainly in decline. I know some people care greatly about PFF - but many times their rankings seem silly. I've watched him play every week for many years - he's not (and never really was) the 4th best OG in football. If he was he certainly wouldn't still be on the market drawing very little interest. This isn't baseball where you can statistically quantify every position, and especially o-linemen.
No doubt you are right, but he's the 20th (or so) guard off the board so that seems about right given his age. On the other hand the Jets offense sucks so getting any player from that team isn't exactly a steal
The OLine wasn't the problem. (So says the drafter of Austin Howard)No doubt you are right, but he's the 20th (or so) guard off the board so that seems about right given his age. On the other hand the Jets offense sucks so getting any player from that team isn't exactly a steal
He's not on the Jets anymore and they were good for many years he was there. I didn't say he sucked or even that it was a bad pick (it wasn't), just questioned the use of the word "great" (he's not, especially now).No doubt you are right, but he's the 20th (or so) guard off the board so that seems about right given his age. On the other hand the Jets offense sucks so getting any player from that team isn't exactly a steal
There's just too many non-measurable factors in football. Coaching, schemes, game situations, quality of competition and so on...I highly doubt that anyone here is using PFF strictly as their drafting guide.
I'm sure there's some truth on both sides.
I hope not. Stats, as always, are good for additional, supplementing what else you have.
If someone was using PFF alone then Evan Mathis would have gone in round 1 and Reggie Wayne would have been taken much earlier than round 12.
damnit I had been waiting on him but didn't think anyone else knew his name. Dude's a tackle machine. you got a good one.
Well of course they'd still factor in age, position and maybe even name recognition.
Non-elite safeties have a low impact relative to other positions. After the top ones were gone, I'm not surprised about the lack of safeties being taken.
Same, no need to PM me after you pick.
I wanted to pair him with Von Miller.
I was taking David Wilson
Could have used you the entire draft
