HellToupee
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Instinctive
Footballguy
Totally willing to do so. You make a great point - I'm simply not a fan of people being jerks because they have internet anonymity. And given the way he's acting, I'm a little hesitant to send a number at this point. Doesn't really feel like the responsible thing to do, you know?ETA: and I'm sorry for messing up the thread with this ####. I won't post about it again. We need to get back to drafting! Also, we need more making fun of picks.I think you both are being childish.Here's the mature thing to do:Instinctive - please send Helltoupee a PM with your number so he can text you when you are up. Then send him a Pm when he is up.Helltoupee - use the number that Instinctive provides you, rather than PMLet's play nice
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Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
I guess you'll have to "judge" these teams based on what happens in the NFL going forward but this wouldn't really apply to the teams drafted in this exercise (if it was real).
Hey remember that time someone drafted Joe Flacco with the 6th pick?Too soon? =PTotally willing to do so. You make a great point - I'm simply not a fan of people being jerks because they have internet anonymity. And given the way he's acting, I'm a little hesitant to send a number at this point. Doesn't really feel like the responsible thing to do, you know?ETA: and I'm sorry for messing up the thread with this ####. I won't post about it again. We need to get back to drafting! Also, we need more making fun of picks.I think you both are being childish.Here's the mature thing to do:Instinctive - please send Helltoupee a PM with your number so he can text you when you are up. Then send him a Pm when he is up.Helltoupee - use the number that Instinctive provides you, rather than PMLet's play nice
Instinctive
Footballguy
Right - but of course, the way we'll be judging teams (I feel like posters will do so), actual production will definitely play a role for guys like Tate. While I think it'll be obvious to many that Larry Fitz is still amazing, I think some of Tate's progress may get lost in things without production behind it. Does that make sense?
ExaltedOne
Footballguy
Yeah this is why I took him. On a team that would pass more (like mine would with Matt Ryan) and with him still drawing the #2 CB (with Crabtree drawing the #1) he could really flourish. If you extrapolate his 2012 numbers to just say 100 targets instead of 65, at 15.3 YPC he would have 72 catches for 1100 yards and 11 TDs. I know it's not realistic to do that but the point is he could have great production if given a bigger role.
Unfortunately we'll probably never know because Seattle's offense doesn't throw enough and his role will reduce (barring injury).
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
Yes, and I do agree - but in reality it shouldn't. There's really no realistic way to have it play out though.
ExaltedOne
Footballguy
When Madden 14 comes out we can put all these players on teams and run a simulated season. That's about the only way I know that could possibly work LOL.
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shake zula
Footballguy
Darius Slay, CB, Mississippi State
God I regret that Laurinitis pick. Bummer. Can someone take a short list?
God I regret that Laurinitis pick. Bummer. Can someone take a short list?
Nucker101
Footballguy
18.14 Oakland Raiders Select Thomas Howard, Outside Linebacker
Going with my best defensive player available on my board right now. Like his speed and tackling ability, apparently he struggles against the run so I'll definitely have to consider that when filling out the rest of my defense.
QB - Peyton Manning
RB - Doug Martin
WR - Julio Jones
WR - Denarius Moore
TE - Dustin Keller
LT- Jordan Gross
LG - Chris Kuper
RG - Chris Snee
RT - Donald Penn
DE - Julius Peppers
DE - Da'Quan Bowers
DT - Kawann Short
DT - Glenn Dorsey
OLB - Ahmad Brooks
OLB - Thomas Howard
CB - Prince Amukamara
CB - Aqib Talib
S - Kerry Rhodes
Going with my best defensive player available on my board right now. Like his speed and tackling ability, apparently he struggles against the run so I'll definitely have to consider that when filling out the rest of my defense.
QB - Peyton Manning
RB - Doug Martin
WR - Julio Jones
WR - Denarius Moore
TE - Dustin Keller
LT- Jordan Gross
LG - Chris Kuper
RG - Chris Snee
RT - Donald Penn
DE - Julius Peppers
DE - Da'Quan Bowers
DT - Kawann Short
DT - Glenn Dorsey
OLB - Ahmad Brooks
OLB - Thomas Howard
CB - Prince Amukamara
CB - Aqib Talib
S - Kerry Rhodes
shake zula
Footballguy
Matt Stafford, QB
Alfred Morris, RB
Larry Fitzgerald, WR
Roddy White, WR
Jermichael Finley, TE
Richie Incognito, G
Mike Pouncey, C
Geoff Schwartz, G
Bryant McKinnie, OT
Paul Soliai, DL
Vernon Olivier, DE
James Laurinaitis, ILB
Karlos Dansby, ILB
Darius Slay, CB
Sean Smith, CB
Brandon Meriweather, S
LaRon Landry, S
Alfred Morris, RB
Larry Fitzgerald, WR
Roddy White, WR
Jermichael Finley, TE
Richie Incognito, G
Mike Pouncey, C
Geoff Schwartz, G
Bryant McKinnie, OT
Paul Soliai, DL
Vernon Olivier, DE
James Laurinaitis, ILB
Karlos Dansby, ILB
Darius Slay, CB
Sean Smith, CB
Brandon Meriweather, S
LaRon Landry, S
ExaltedOne
Footballguy
I can take your list.
RBM
Footballguy
Like this offense a lot
shake zula
Footballguy
Sent
shake zula
Footballguy
The Ravens just won the superbowl with a worse offensive line and less talent at the skills positions. If an offense like this couldn't take a team deep into the playoffs it'd be, imo, entirely because Stafford can't make it happen.My defense on the other hand is problematic insofar as I now have two SS and a MLB, Laurinitis, who probably wouldn't fit into a 3-4. I like my CB's and my DL.
FUBAR
Footballguy
Run and shoot offense? Love the skill positions, almost think there's too much talent at WR.
Strong OLine although you'll need to coach up your RT, the other 4 are strong enough to work it. If Finley were a better blocker, you'd be set IMO.
shake zula
Footballguy
Not sure how deep we are going but IRL I'd take a 2nd TE with a higher upside to block. Without naming names there are two that I particularly like. I hate my defense though. It might be effective but the more I look at it the more it's without vision.Run and shoot offense? Love the skill positions, almost think there's too much talent at WR.
ExaltedOne
Footballguy
Whicker just texted me that we should skip him. Nate is on the clock. I PMed him.
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ExaltedOne
Footballguy
I was bored the last hour and decided to do an exercise I'm going to call "the All Value Team".
Here are the rules:
[*]You can only select players that were selected in the following round. For example in round 1 you can only select players taken in round 2 or later. In round 2 you can select players taken in round 3 or later, and so on.
[*]You must select players as if you are an actual team, so don't draft like 6 runningbacks for example.
Here's what I came up with:
Offense:
QB: Matt Shaub (4)
RB: Adrian Peterson (1)
WR: Torrey Smith (8)
WR: Pierre Garcon (9)
TE: Tony Gonzalez (13)
LT: Tyron Smith (3)
LG: Evan Mathis (5)
C: John Sullivan (7)
RG: Rob Sims (11)
RT: Gosder Cherilus (6)
Defeense:
DT: Marcel Dareus (2)
DE: Antonio Smith (14)
ILB: Jon Beason (10)
ILB: DeMeco Ryans (15)
FS: Stevie Brown (12)
SS: Major Wright (16)
Obviously I'm a little biased in that I selected 6 guys that I drafted, but I think this is the makings of a solid team. The offense looks like a ground-and-pound style with the potential to take it over the top with some fast receivers. The defense is built to stop the run but has some solid safeties to prevent the big play.
I'd like to see what you guys can come up with
Here are the rules:
[*]You can only select players that were selected in the following round. For example in round 1 you can only select players taken in round 2 or later. In round 2 you can select players taken in round 3 or later, and so on.
[*]You must select players as if you are an actual team, so don't draft like 6 runningbacks for example.
Here's what I came up with:
Offense:
QB: Matt Shaub (4)
RB: Adrian Peterson (1)
WR: Torrey Smith (8)
WR: Pierre Garcon (9)
TE: Tony Gonzalez (13)
LT: Tyron Smith (3)
LG: Evan Mathis (5)
C: John Sullivan (7)
RG: Rob Sims (11)
RT: Gosder Cherilus (6)
Defeense:
DT: Marcel Dareus (2)
DE: Antonio Smith (14)
ILB: Jon Beason (10)
ILB: DeMeco Ryans (15)
FS: Stevie Brown (12)
SS: Major Wright (16)
Obviously I'm a little biased in that I selected 6 guys that I drafted, but I think this is the makings of a solid team. The offense looks like a ground-and-pound style with the potential to take it over the top with some fast receivers. The defense is built to stop the run but has some solid safeties to prevent the big play.
I'd like to see what you guys can come up with
AwesomeAuger
Footballguy
Your front 7 fits into a 4-3 fine. Dansby can play WLB, he's versatile enough. I don't like that you have two safeties who are best going downhill. Neither is particularly good playing deep safety.
FUBAR
Footballguy
This exercise would mean more if limited to 1 per team or none from your own. Otherwise, I'll just list my draftsI was bored the last hour and decided to do an exercise I'm going to call "the All Value Team".
Here are the rules:
[*]You can only select players that were selected in the following round. For example in round 1 you can only select players taken in round 2 or later. In round 2 you can select players taken in round 3 or later, and so on.
[*]You must select players as if you are an actual team, so don't draft like 6 runningbacks for example.
Here's what I came up with:
Offense:
QB: Matt Shaub (4)
RB: Adrian Peterson (1)
WR: Torrey Smith (8)
WR: Pierre Garcon (9)
TE: Tony Gonzalez (13)
LT: Tyron Smith (3)
LG: Evan Mathis (5)
C: John Sullivan (7)
RG: Rob Sims (11)
RT: Gosder Cherilus (6)
Defeense:
DT: Marcel Dareus (2)
DE: Antonio Smith (14)
ILB: Jon Beason (10)
ILB: DeMeco Ryans (15)
FS: Stevie Brown (12)
SS: Major Wright (16)
Obviously I'm a little biased in that I selected 6 guys that I drafted, but I think this is the makings of a solid team. The offense looks like a ground-and-pound style with the potential to take it over the top with some fast receivers. The defense is built to stop the run but has some solid safeties to prevent the big play.
I'd like to see what you guys can come up with
RBM
Footballguy
It's a testament to just how good Flacco was/is.
Make-up pick
18.15 Cardinals select T.J. Lang, G
Completes my O-line. He also has experience at RT in case I need to slide Saffold back to the left.
Offense:
6.15 Jason Peters, LT
7.18 Rodger Saffold, RT
9.18 Brian De La Puente, C
10.15 Cecil Shorts, WR
11.18 Keenan Allen, WR
14.15 Larry Warford, RG
15.18 Heath Miller, TE
17.18 Malcom Floyd, WR
18.15 T.J. Lang, G
Defense:
1.15 Geno Atkins, RE
2.18 Muhammad Wilkerson, LE
3.18 Daryl Washington, ILB
4.15 Ryan Kerrigan, OLB
5.18 Brandon Carr, CB
8.15 Star Lotulelei, NT
12.15 Thomas DeCoud, FS
13.18 Reggie Nelson, SS
16.15 Mike DeVito, DE/NT
18.15 Cardinals select T.J. Lang, G
Completes my O-line. He also has experience at RT in case I need to slide Saffold back to the left.
Offense:
6.15 Jason Peters, LT
7.18 Rodger Saffold, RT
9.18 Brian De La Puente, C
10.15 Cecil Shorts, WR
11.18 Keenan Allen, WR
14.15 Larry Warford, RG
15.18 Heath Miller, TE
17.18 Malcom Floyd, WR
18.15 T.J. Lang, G
Defense:
1.15 Geno Atkins, RE
2.18 Muhammad Wilkerson, LE
3.18 Daryl Washington, ILB
4.15 Ryan Kerrigan, OLB
5.18 Brandon Carr, CB
8.15 Star Lotulelei, NT
12.15 Thomas DeCoud, FS
13.18 Reggie Nelson, SS
16.15 Mike DeVito, DE/NT
ExaltedOne
Footballguy
18.17 Packers (shake zula) select Alex Okafor, DE/OLB, Texas via PM
ExaltedOne
Footballguy
Strange offense that has no QB or RB.
shake zula
Footballguy
Yeah I'd need another safety. I like what they can do inside the box and in the middle. I think Meriweather has always been incredibly underated. With regard to my Defense in general, I was trying to build around Soliai. He's a monster and I think a top 5 DT. BUT he fits the mold of a NT more. He creates no pressure. I think I'd need a beast at SLB unless Vernon turned into Calais Campbell. Just seems tough to get any pressure on QB with what I have.
ExaltedOne
Footballguy
Then you wouldn't be following rule #1.This exercise would mean more if limited to 1 per team or none from your own. Otherwise, I'll just list my draftsI was bored the last hour and decided to do an exercise I'm going to call "the All Value Team".
Here are the rules:
[*]You can only select players that were selected in the following round. For example in round 1 you can only select players taken in round 2 or later. In round 2 you can select players taken in round 3 or later, and so on.
[*]You must select players as if you are an actual team, so don't draft like 6 runningbacks for example.
Here's what I came up with:
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Obviously I'm a little biased in that I selected 6 guys that I drafted, but I think this is the makings of a solid team. The offense looks like a ground-and-pound style with the potential to take it over the top with some fast receivers. The defense is built to stop the run but has some solid safeties to prevent the big play.
I'd like to see what you guys can come up with
AwesomeAuger
Footballguy
I'll exclude my teamsOffense:I was bored the last hour and decided to do an exercise I'm going to call "the All Value Team".
Here are the rules:
[*]You can only select players that were selected in the following round. For example in round 1 you can only select players taken in round 2 or later. In round 2 you can select players taken in round 3 or later, and so on.
[*]You must select players as if you are an actual team, so don't draft like 6 runningbacks for example.
Here's what I came up with:
Offense:
QB: Matt Shaub (4)
RB: Adrian Peterson (1)
WR: Torrey Smith (8)
WR: Pierre Garcon (9)
TE: Tony Gonzalez (13)
LT: Tyron Smith (3)
LG: Evan Mathis (5)
C: John Sullivan (7)
RG: Rob Sims (11)
RT: Gosder Cherilus (6)
Defeense:
DT: Marcel Dareus (2)
DE: Antonio Smith (14)
ILB: Jon Beason (10)
ILB: DeMeco Ryans (15)
FS: Stevie Brown (12)
SS: Major Wright (16)
Obviously I'm a little biased in that I selected 6 guys that I drafted, but I think this is the makings of a solid team. The offense looks like a ground-and-pound style with the potential to take it over the top with some fast receivers. The defense is built to stop the run but has some solid safeties to prevent the big play.
I'd like to see what you guys can come up with
QB: Cutler (2)
RB: Jonathan Stewart (12)
WR: Julio Jones (1)
WR: Greg Jennings (9)
WR: Steve Smith (10)
TE: Dwayne Allen (8)
LT: Brandon Albert (4)
LG: T.J. Lang (17)
C: Jonathan Goodwin (16)
RG: Eric Wood (15)
RT: Eric Winston (7)
Defense:
DE: Trent Cole (13)
DT:
DT:
DE: Melvin Ingram (11)
WLB: Sean Weatherspoon (6)
MLB: Lawrence Timmons (3)
SLB:
CB: Antonio Cromartie (5)
CB: Adam Jones (14)
FS:
SS:
ExaltedOne
Footballguy
18.22 Cleveland Browns select Kevin Minter, MLB
I am really glad he fell to me especially seeing his pro-day results today. I knew he had game speed but now he has shown it on the track. He looks like a 3-down MLB to me, and he'll be a key player on this defense for years to come.
Offense
4.22 QB Geno Smith
3.11 HB C.J. Spiller
13.11 FB Marcel Reece
1.22 WR A.J. Green
2.11 WR Demaryius Thomas
14.22 TE Tony Gonzalez
5.11 LT William Beatty
12.22 LG Rob Sims
8.22 OC John Sullivan
11.11 RG Louis Vasquez
7.11 RT Gosder Cherilus
Defense
15.11 DE Brian Robison
16.22 DE Osi Umenyiora
17.11 DT Kevin Williams
18.22 MLB Kevin Minter
10.22 CB Derek Cox
6.22 FS Reshad Jones
9.11 SS Troy Polamalu
I am really glad he fell to me especially seeing his pro-day results today. I knew he had game speed but now he has shown it on the track. He looks like a 3-down MLB to me, and he'll be a key player on this defense for years to come.
Offense
4.22 QB Geno Smith
3.11 HB C.J. Spiller
13.11 FB Marcel Reece
1.22 WR A.J. Green
2.11 WR Demaryius Thomas
14.22 TE Tony Gonzalez
5.11 LT William Beatty
12.22 LG Rob Sims
8.22 OC John Sullivan
11.11 RG Louis Vasquez
7.11 RT Gosder Cherilus
Defense
15.11 DE Brian Robison
16.22 DE Osi Umenyiora
17.11 DT Kevin Williams
18.22 MLB Kevin Minter
10.22 CB Derek Cox
6.22 FS Reshad Jones
9.11 SS Troy Polamalu
Bamac
Footballguy
All value team. Only one pick from my squad.
QB: Cutler (2)
RB: Pierce (13)
WR: Vjax (4), Amendola (12)
TE:
LT: Lane Johnson, (5)
LG:
C:
RG:
RT: Winston Justice (9)
DT: Suh (1), Kyle Williams (3)
DE: Tuck (7), Melvin Ingram (11)
OLB: Jo-Lonn Dunbar (14), ________
MLB:
CB: Milliner (6), Rodgers-Cromartie (8)
FS: Elam (10)
SS: Cyprien (17)
QB: Cutler (2)
RB: Pierce (13)
WR: Vjax (4), Amendola (12)
TE:
LT: Lane Johnson, (5)
LG:
C:
RG:
RT: Winston Justice (9)
DT: Suh (1), Kyle Williams (3)
DE: Tuck (7), Melvin Ingram (11)
OLB: Jo-Lonn Dunbar (14), ________
MLB:
CB: Milliner (6), Rodgers-Cromartie (8)
FS: Elam (10)
SS: Cyprien (17)
AwesomeAuger
Footballguy
ExaltedOne
Footballguy
Yeah Round 8 was probably the toughest call for me and I almost took Rodgers-Cromartie. I went with Smith because I needed a WR.Well, that is a total of 3 different players from my Colts teams that have been listed on different "all-value" teams, so I guess I am doing OK with them.Vincent Jackson, Sean Weatherspoon, and Rodgers-Cromartie.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
Malcolm Floyd will run the wildcat.
Too small for the 3-4 on my team...So close to making it to the Chiefs
ExaltedOne
Footballguy
OK here's my all-value team with no players from my teams
QB: Matt Shaub (4)
RB: Stevan Ridley (15)
WR: Pierre Garcon (9)
WR: James Jones (11)
TE: Dennis Pitta (12)
LT: Joe Staley (1)
LG: Evan Mathis (5)
C: Jonathan Goodwin (16)
RG: Alex Boone (7)
RT: D.J. Fluker (8)
DT: Marcel Dareus (2)
DT: Kyle Williams (3)
DE: Antonio Smith (14)
ILB: Jon Beason (10)
CB: Dee Milliner (6)
FS: Kerry Rhodes (13)
This is about the most physical team I could imagine. Big, strong o-linemen and big, strong d-linemen. Run the ball and stop the run.
QB: Matt Shaub (4)
RB: Stevan Ridley (15)
WR: Pierre Garcon (9)
WR: James Jones (11)
TE: Dennis Pitta (12)
LT: Joe Staley (1)
LG: Evan Mathis (5)
C: Jonathan Goodwin (16)
RG: Alex Boone (7)
RT: D.J. Fluker (8)
DT: Marcel Dareus (2)
DT: Kyle Williams (3)
DE: Antonio Smith (14)
ILB: Jon Beason (10)
CB: Dee Milliner (6)
FS: Kerry Rhodes (13)
This is about the most physical team I could imagine. Big, strong o-linemen and big, strong d-linemen. Run the ball and stop the run.
gandalas
Footballguy
But the fact that you don't have a 2nd CB or any OLBs with the slim pickings left at those positions means that this team is not an all-value team at all. At least in year 1, they would get passed all OVER. (Older, slowing FS, only a rookie at CB, no OLBS for pass rush).
HellToupee
Footballguy
18.24 - Dolphins select - Sammie Lee Hill, DL
I have no tackles and although there are some options right now, if the Titans view him as a 3 down tackle, then so shall I. He's also only 26 so he should have some time to develop still and has been show to have a little upside. Looks like I will be going 4-3 on this defense as well.
Offense
2.09 - Russell Okung, LT
3.09 - Randall Cobb, WR
6.24 - Josh Sitton, OG
8.24 - Stefen Wisniewski, C
10.09 - Jeremy Maclin, WR
12.24 - John Greco, OG
14.24 - Chris Hairston, RT
16.24 - Rob Housler, TE
17.09 - Vick Ballard, RB
Defense:
1.24 - Navorro Bowman, LB
4.24 - Robert Quinn, DE
5.09 - Charles Tillman, DB
7.09 - Jabaal Sheard, DL
9.09 - Morgan Burnett, FS
11.09 - Colin McCarthy, LB
13.09 - Donte Whitner, SS
15.09 - Jimmy Smith, DB
18.24 - Sammie Lee Hill, DL
I have no tackles and although there are some options right now, if the Titans view him as a 3 down tackle, then so shall I. He's also only 26 so he should have some time to develop still and has been show to have a little upside. Looks like I will be going 4-3 on this defense as well.
Offense
2.09 - Russell Okung, LT
3.09 - Randall Cobb, WR
6.24 - Josh Sitton, OG
8.24 - Stefen Wisniewski, C
10.09 - Jeremy Maclin, WR
12.24 - John Greco, OG
14.24 - Chris Hairston, RT
16.24 - Rob Housler, TE
17.09 - Vick Ballard, RB
Defense:
1.24 - Navorro Bowman, LB
4.24 - Robert Quinn, DE
5.09 - Charles Tillman, DB
7.09 - Jabaal Sheard, DL
9.09 - Morgan Burnett, FS
11.09 - Colin McCarthy, LB
13.09 - Donte Whitner, SS
15.09 - Jimmy Smith, DB
18.24 - Sammie Lee Hill, DL
