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There's a crazy rumor fueled by Tampa Bay coach Jon Gruden's praise of Adrian Peterson: The Bucs could take the Oklahoma running back at No. 4 and then trade Cadillac Williams (Green Bay? Buffalo?) for a pick and a player.-- Trenton Times
:popcorn:
 
This would be great for Caddy but bad for AD.

Chucky. :hot:

Why does he want another Rb who is not a strong reciever? He likes to pass the ball too much and the way he runs the offense would not be good for AD either who's possible weaknesses are pass blocking and catching the ball (as well as injury concerns).

I think this is just blowing smoke in case a team is interested in trading up for AD.

 
This would be great for Caddy but bad for AD.Chucky. :hot: Why does he want another Rb who is not a strong reciever? He likes to pass the ball too much and the way he runs the offense would not be good for AD either who's possible weaknesses are pass blocking and catching the ball (as well as injury concerns).I think this is just blowing smoke in case a team is interested in trading up for AD.
Adrian Peterson was reportedly impressive catching the football at his Pro Day. While most Pro Day reports are glowing, Peterson went out of his way to showcase his hands while lining up in the backfield and in the slot.
 
http://adrian-peterson.com

BACKFIELD OF DREAMS

Whether or not he was blowing smoke or making sense, Buccaneers coach Jon Gruden left open the possibility that he would draft Oklahoma running back Adrian Peterson at No. 4 to team with Cadillac Williams.

Gruden said, Why not? New Orleans has running back Deuce McAllister, a former first-round pick, to go along with running back Reggie Bush, another former first-round pick. Chicago teamed first-round picks Thomas Jones and Cedric Benson.

And now, Gruden insisted that he is debating the merits of a similar tag-team backfield.

Asked if he saw any similarities between Peterson and Williams, Gruden responded, "Yeah, they're really good."
Gruden --> :stirspot:
 
:banned: The only GM I can see fallling for this BS is Mike Brown.

"All Day" will not be selected by TB.

 
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http://adrian-peterson.com

BACKFIELD OF DREAMS

Whether or not he was blowing smoke or making sense, Buccaneers coach Jon Gruden left open the possibility that he would draft Oklahoma running back Adrian Peterson at No. 4 to team with Cadillac Williams.

Gruden said, Why not? New Orleans has running back Deuce McAllister, a former first-round pick, to go along with running back Reggie Bush, another former first-round pick. Chicago teamed first-round picks Thomas Jones and Cedric Benson.

And now, Gruden insisted that he is debating the merits of a similar tag-team backfield.

Asked if he saw any similarities between Peterson and Williams, Gruden responded, "Yeah, they're really good."
Gruden --> :stirspot:
It would be very unwise unless he traded Cadillac and got some OL help or draft picks with which he could draft OL help. I don't think AP would have nearly as much success for TB as he could for the nearly every other team in the league. But I would love to get Cadillac on the Bills, however this seems like smoke. If it isn't, he may be on his way out after this season if they flop again.
 
Finless said:
Who coined it? It's stupid. If you're going to use one of the guys initials use both of them.
Peterson himself coined it. He said he could run All Day. thus A.D.Back to subject. This is nothing more than a smoke screen. Tampa Bay wants C.J. in the worst way.
 
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Finless said:
Who coined it? It's stupid. If you're going to use one of the guys initials use both of them.
Peterson himself coined it. He said he could run All Day. thus A.D.Back to subject. This is nothing more than a smoke screen. Tampa Bay wants C.J. in the worst way.
i thought his father gave him the nickname
 
I like Caddy alot and think he's worth a very high pick in the draft so I figure Gruden's not going to get the value he can for him in this scenario. That traded pick holds the key though as the point is to improve with the draft not switch from one very talented RB to another very talented RB

 
Finless said:
Who coined it? It's stupid. If you're going to use one of the guys initials use both of them.
Perhaps his cynics could start calling him "All Pay"
 
this would be fantastic for the pack but its definately an early spring fishing trip for chucky seeing the draft is approaching quickly! The bucs need CJ!

 
There's a crazy rumor fueled by Tampa Bay coach Jon Gruden's praise of Adrian Peterson: The Bucs could take the Oklahoma running back at No. 4 and then trade Cadillac Williams (Green Bay? Buffalo?) for a pick and a player.

-- Trenton Times
:shock:
I lean towards thinking this is trying to give out the signals that CJ will not be the automatic pick of TB so that he does fall to them rather than another team trying to move up the draft to steal CJ away from the Bucs.
 
There's a crazy rumor fueled by Tampa Bay coach Jon Gruden's praise of Adrian Peterson: The Bucs could take the Oklahoma running back at No. 4 and then trade Cadillac Williams (Green Bay? Buffalo?) for a pick and a player.

-- Trenton Times
:rolleyes:
I lean towards thinking this is trying to give out the signals that CJ will not be the automatic pick of TB so that he does fall to them rather than another team trying to move up the draft to steal CJ away from the Bucs.
Or as a way to hopefully encourage the Browns to take Peterson so that they indeed get CJ.
 
There's a crazy rumor fueled by Tampa Bay coach Jon Gruden's praise of Adrian Peterson: The Bucs could take the Oklahoma running back at No. 4 and then trade Cadillac Williams (Green Bay? Buffalo?) for a pick and a player.

-- Trenton Times
:shrug:
I lean towards thinking this is trying to give out the signals that CJ will not be the automatic pick of TB so that he does fall to them rather than another team trying to move up the draft to steal CJ away from the Bucs.
Or as a way to hopefully encourage the Browns to take Peterson so that they indeed get CJ.
Yea- but I think that has less weight.
 
It would be very unwise unless he traded Cadillac and got some OL help or draft picks with which he could draft OL help. I don't think AP would have nearly as much success for TB as he could for the nearly every other team in the league. But I would love to get Cadillac on the Bills, however this seems like smoke. If it isn't, he may be on his way out after this season if they flop again.
What value does Carnell have? Would he garner a first round pick from someone like Buffalo?
 
This would be great for Caddy but bad for AD.Chucky. :yes: Why does he want another Rb who is not a strong reciever? He likes to pass the ball too much and the way he runs the offense would not be good for AD either who's possible weaknesses are pass blocking and catching the ball (as well as injury concerns).I think this is just blowing smoke in case a team is interested in trading up for AD.
i don't really understand this knock on Caddy. I was watching a replay of the 06' Buc's -Saint's yesterday, and he made several nice grabs.
 
Finless said:
Who coined it? It's stupid. If you're going to use one of the guys initials use both of them.
That's what everyone calls him at OU. It's a nickname. It's here to stay so get used to it.
 
I would say that this is just a crazy rumor. Nothing to see here...move along.
:lmao: Everyone go to Buccaneers.com, and read what JG has said about all the top picks. As Buc's fan i can tell you JG "loves" everybody. If he ever says "I don't like this guy" that would concern me.
 
This would be great for Caddy but bad for AD.

Chucky. :confused:

Why does he want another Rb who is not a strong reciever? He likes to pass the ball too much and the way he runs the offense would not be good for AD either who's possible weaknesses are pass blocking and catching the ball (as well as injury concerns).

I think this is just blowing smoke in case a team is interested in trading up for AD.
I agree this is just blowing smoke, but not for a team interested in trading up for AD. IF TB picked AD, then a team in need of a RB could just trade for Caddy. The durability issue is the only knock on Caddy thus far. He is a talented RB. I would think that Buffalo, GB and the Titans would love to have Caddy if the price were right.

 
IF TB picked AD, then a team in need of a RB could just trade for Caddy. The durability issue is the only knock on Caddy thus far. He is a talented RB. I would think that Buffalo, GB and the Titans would love to have Caddy if the price were right.
That's the part I don't get. The Bucs would not switch Carnell for AP unless they were getting a significant player or pick...probably a pick where they feel they can get a player they are targeting in the middle of round 1. Yet some say you can't get much for a RB these days. So what could they get?
 
This would be great for Caddy but bad for AD.Chucky. :stalker: Why does he want another Rb who is not a strong reciever? He likes to pass the ball too much and the way he runs the offense would not be good for AD either who's possible weaknesses are pass blocking and catching the ball (as well as injury concerns).I think this is just blowing smoke in case a team is interested in trading up for AD.
i don't really understand this knock on Caddy. I was watching a replay of the 06' Buc's -Saint's yesterday, and he made several nice grabs.
I have seen Williams do this too. And incidently I am aware of AD showing good ability catching the ball in workouts. He just was not used this way much in college.. thus the questions.. teams questioned LTs ability to catch that ball as a rookie prospect as well. 100 catches in a season later.. But anyways my point was not so much directed towards Caddy or AD but that Gruden continues to use Rbs situationaly. And he also seems to give up on the running game very quickly resorting to passing the ball a ton even when using rookie Qbs. Pittman and Alsuck are still on the team as well. Is Gruden so in love with every player as previous poster said that he feels inclined to let them all get a piece of the pie?In any case as long as Chucky continues this trend I do not see a reason for him to have a bell cow Rb like Caddy or AD on his team if he is going to just give up on the running game anyways and use Rbs situationaly. I think Caddy and AD are both Rbs that you should keep feeding the ball to as they get better as the game goes on.
 
IF TB picked AD, then a team in need of a RB could just trade for Caddy. The durability issue is the only knock on Caddy thus far. He is a talented RB. I would think that Buffalo, GB and the Titans would love to have Caddy if the price were right.
That's the part I don't get. The Bucs would not switch Carnell for AP unless they were getting a significant player or pick...probably a pick where they feel they can get a player they are targeting in the middle of round 1. Yet some say you can't get much for a RB these days. So what could they get?
IIRC, Caddy has 4 years (at least 3 years) left on his contract. For this rumor to be true, TB would be pick AD and paying significant bonus money, trade Caddy and take a salary cap hit for the bonus money left on the prorated contract.The team trading for Caddy would give up say a 2nd rounder (and that would likely be the best case scenario) and would have 3-years of Caddy w/o payment of bonus money -- although I assume there is an escalation of the salary the last 2 years.Still this is a deal for the team trading for Caddy -- unless TB knows something about Caddy's medical condition (none that I know of) that makes Caddy a health risk into the future.
 
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This would be great for Caddy but bad for AD.

Chucky. :lmao:

Why does he want another Rb who is not a strong reciever? He likes to pass the ball too much and the way he runs the offense would not be good for AD either who's possible weaknesses are pass blocking and catching the ball (as well as injury concerns).

I think this is just blowing smoke in case a team is interested in trading up for AD.
I agree this is just blowing smoke, but not for a team interested in trading up for AD. IF TB picked AD, then a team in need of a RB could just trade for Caddy. The durability issue is the only knock on Caddy thus far. He is a talented RB. I would think that Buffalo, GB and the Titans would love to have Caddy if the price were right.
Caddy's best "year" is behind him, you'll be tossing him on the Waiver wire in a year ot two. Chucky broke this one quicker than schedualed :stalker: :lmao:
 
Finless said:
Who coined it? It's stupid. If you're going to use one of the guys initials use both of them.
I agree 100%I was thinking "wtf is AD" in the post. I only guessed it was "AD"rian Peterson and the post creator had no idea how to use initials.
 
what would Cadillac cost? Bills 2nd?
why would the bucs do this? give away their #4 pick from only two years ago for .50 on the dollar, just so they can draft another RB?dumb..
I'm not sure what goes through Gruden's mind a lot of the time. He might just be nutty enough to do something like this, but I'm not going to hold my breath.
I can't imagine. No RB was going to produce behind that disaster of an Oline and with Gradkowski last year. Ridiculous to even consider.
 
what would Cadillac cost? Bills 2nd?
why would the bucs do this? give away their #4 pick from only two years ago for .50 on the dollar, just so they can draft another RB?dumb..
My point also...I agree. The ONLY way this happens is if the Bucs get a deal that allows them to draft a player they are targeting...probably defensive, and probably mid-1st round. It ain't happening for a 2nd....
 
I would say that this is just a crazy rumor. Nothing to see here...move along.
:lmao: Everyone go to Buccaneers.com, and read what JG has said about all the top picks. As Buc's fan i can tell you JG "loves" everybody. If he ever says "I don't like this guy" that would concern me.
This is exactly right. And it's not just about future draftees, either! He is effusive in his praise about every single player in the league. I think maybe he just sees the upside in players and likes to express that to the media.
 
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Aaron Rudnicki said:
what would Cadillac cost? Bills 2nd?
why would the bucs do this? give away their #4 pick from only two years ago for .50 on the dollar, just so they can draft another RB?dumb..
I'm not sure what goes through Gruden's mind a lot of the time. He might just be nutty enough to do something like this, but I'm not going to hold my breath.
I can't imagine. No RB was going to produce behind that disaster of an Oline and with Gradkowski last year. Ridiculous to even consider.
First, Garcia is now the starter which should help the offense. Second, according to at least one "expert" the Bucs are one of only a handful of teams that don't need to address their O-line (which I find hard to believe considering their offense last year). Link: http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=jm-n...o&type=lgnsStill, Gruden's teams throw more than any other team historically so even though Caddy has one of the most favorable schedules in the league against poor rushing defenses, I can't see him either going too high or producing too high either. A third back at best in a flex offense, caveat emptor as a #2 back.

 

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