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Auburn is really going to miss Cam Newton. They are losing to Utah State at home late in the game :eek:Auburn scores 2 TDs in 60 seconds to rally. Still, they aren't a top team anymore in the SEC.
Agree Auburn turned over way too many seniors. They are young and in rebuild mode this year. They will be back when the time is right, I have no doubt. :football:
 
Repeat after me:

- As a rookie, Tim Tebow was FFL relevant on a bad team.

- As a rookie, Vince Young was FFL relevant on a bad team.

- In his 2nd yr, Daunte Culpepper was FFL relevant.

**

I won't debate whether he will suck as an NFL QB, since I don't really care. What I will say as this, Cam Newton will absolutly get every snap this year as QB for the Panthers unless he gets hurt. He has been annointed the face of the franchise. Given the fact that he led the SEC last year in rushing with 1473 yards and 20 TDs (to go along with 30 TD passes) I am certain that as the year rolls along he will be FFL relevant. For those who aren't aware, by far the best college defense in the country is played in the SEC.

**

Typical stat line will look like this:

12 of 25, 1 int 0.9 pass TD, 177 yards

7 carries, 44 yards, .7 run TD

-

It's ugly, but it equals about 17 points a week in most leagues. And that matters. At least in our 2 QB start league it does. At 17 points per week he is QB13. At 16 per he is QB17. And he costs $1 right now. And I'll say this, while he sucks as an NFL QB, if Tebow was the starter in Denver he'd be the same. FFL gold I tell you.
I calculated the numbers you came up with...

2832 Pass Yds

13 Pass TD's

16 Interceptions

which I believe are very realistic...

704 Rush Yds

7 Rush TD's

which I believe are also very realistic after watching every Pre-season game with him this year

That gave him 277.7 Fantasy Points which he would have been ranked at #10 Overall QB from last year!!... Rushing Yards are worth 2x as much in my league and add to the overall consistancy of a QB in fantasy football because a running QB is more likely to use his feet when he can't do anything with his arm (where Passing only QB's will put up a few duds every year)...I don't think we put enough emphasis on running QB's at what they can do for "Consistancy", which is more important than the end of the year points in my opinion... a guy like Cam Newton although his passing statistics are rookie like and tend to keep most people away, YOU CANNOT IGNORE HIS RUSHING NUMBERS.. the value of a QB in Fantasy Football that runs like he does (VICK like abilities and more durable) makes his value sky rocket, and he can be more than a mesely bye week filler, but a guy who can give you a potentially huge game when you have a bad matchup/injury/bye-week SIMPLY because of his rushing numbers

DYNASTY/KEEPER get him on your roster in every league.. could lead you to FUTURE championships once he learns how to be an NFL QB...which he will... he has the work ethic of a ####### mule and Athletic Ability unlike anything we have ever seen in this league

REDRAFT- might be worth a roster sport once we watch him play a few games... really this guy has HUGE UPSIDE as a QB #2 like the post says and you can get him for next to nothing now... I wouldn't be suprised to see Waiver Wire pick-ups go crazy for him after a few weeks..
dude i have to say... I called this one... glad i picked him in the draft in both leagues :boxing:
You called what? You're confirming your call as a good one based on one half of football in the first game of the season? Jesus - this is ridiculous even for the SP
Newton just broke the week 1 rookie passing yards record set by Peyton Manning
do i need to say more... I CALLED THAT HE WAS GOING TO BE A CRAZY WAIVER WIRE PICK UP... AND THAT HE WAS GOING TO BE FANTASY RELEVANT... SO YES...i think those are both things i can say after watching ONE GAMEquit being such a negative NANCY... you sound like a #####
:lmao:

You're either 15 years old or you've had way too much coffee today.

Settle down cornholio.

 
Cam must have read this thread and was motivated :)He's done very well - I'm surprised, maybe CAR didn't bomb with this kid after all.
Dude,Your not getting off the hook that easy!I want to admit I was right and that you got owned. If I recall you compared him to J Russell and said "mark my word, he will bust hard"
 
Cam must have read this thread and was motivated :)He's done very well - I'm surprised, maybe CAR didn't bomb with this kid after all.
Dude,Your not getting off the hook that easy!I want to admit I was right and that you got owned. If I recall you compared him to J Russell and said "mark my word, he will bust hard"
dude, before you go breaking your arm patting yourself on the back, let's watch him for a few games before saying one way or another, mmmmkay? He has looked great today, but this is Arizona we're talking about. I'm assuming if he sucks it up next week you will bring this thread back up, right?
 
Cam must have read this thread and was motivated :)He's done very well - I'm surprised, maybe CAR didn't bomb with this kid after all.
Dude,Your not getting off the hook that easy!I want to admit I was right and that you got owned. If I recall you compared him to J Russell and said "mark my word, he will bust hard"
dude, before you go breaking your arm patting yourself on the back, let's watch him for a few games before saying one way or another, mmmmkay? He has looked great today, but this is Arizona we're talking about. I'm assuming if he sucks it up next week you will bring this thread back up, right?
The Black Knight speaks.
 
Kid has thrown for over 400 yards in his NFL debut.

I don't care who they are playing that is very impressive.

Kid is going to be a major NFL star.

 
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WOW he was possessed today!!!! Now it's only the 1st game, once the DCs get enough film on him we'll see what he's really made of. Around mid-season teams should have enough film to actually scheme against him but right now there's not enough. :football:

Can't take away what he's done though!!!

 
Best debut by a rookie QB in NFL history?
Best I've ever seen.
take away the throws on the back foot and add back in the ints that should have been, his debut was somewhere between a disaster and horrendeous.
Don't forget that the refs totally allowed Carolina's O-line to hold on every play.
That's probably why they had so many rushing yards.
 
this week 1 stuff is going to pollute this thread more but...

awesome week. I didn't think he, or any other rookie, could possibly do that.

It reminds me of all that junk they did at the combine on NFLN and just really touting this kid as if he was the only one there. It felt like such a PR effort. Anyhow, Goodell or someone in the NFL offices is probably smiling today.

 
I started Cam in my 2 QB league...I did not watch the game, I do not care if he throws off of his back foot or hind leg...nor do I care if Carolina goes 0-16

32 points

 
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Cam Newton is the most overhyped QB of all time. One season of productive college play, combined with a ton of off the field issues, don't add up to NFL success, imho. So far this preseason, he has been abysmal at throwing anything other than the most simple passes. With his alleged "cannon arm," one would think he should be able to hit his WRs once in a while. How about a long completion or two? It's laughable the way ESPN is now attempting to use the most esoteric stats imaginable in order to transform Newton's horrendous preseason performance into something positive. What is this absurd "only four QBs have scrambled for more than 15 yards nonsense?" Has such a ridiculous (and probably not even accurate) statistic ever been used to justify the "greatness" of any other NFL player? What makes the media's agenda clear is the fact that fellow rookie QB Jake Locker, on the same night ESPN, Rotoworld, etc. is trying to hype up Newton's completely pedestrian 26 yard scramble, ran for a 22 yard TD. That's 6 yards longer than Newton's "unbelievable" TD run last week. Funny, I didn't catch a single media mention of how "memorable" Locker's run was. From Trent Dilfer's gay outburst over Newton's totally run of the mill predraft workout to the constant media prediction that this arrogant diva "must be" the #1 draft pick to Warren Moon's racial hucksterism in basically demanding Newton be the #1 pick (and recent demands that he be the opening day starter), no player has been so over promoted by so many powerful forces in the history of sports. When you compare Newton's mediocre preseason efforts to Tim Tebow's 113 QB rating, amidst a clear cut media campaign to end his chances of being a starting NFL QB, even the drunkest fan ought to understand just how "unbiased" these "journalists" are. With the ecstatic hysteria over Newton's 16 yard TD run, and his 26 yard scramble the next game, can one imagine what the media's reaction would be if, in his first NFL start, he rambled through an entire defense for a 40 yard TD run? I think it might be just a bit different than the reaction an actual NFL rookie QB received when he did just that, last season. You know who he is- the guy Merrill Hoge, Boomer Esiason and everyone else who ever worked at ESPN and the NFL Network keep telling us "can't play" in the NFL.
I cannot wait to post after Cam's 1st NFL game next weekend.My guess?9 completions, 24 pass attempts, 0 TD's, 2 INT's 7 rushes for 27 yards and 0 TD'sAt the end of his first NFL game Cam will look like thishttp://1.bp.blogspot.com/_zM-D8lp65LQ/SyGrWX8INaI/AAAAAAAABpQ/jg4RJtfuJBc/s400/DeerInHeadlights.jpg
I was wrong and I was hoodwinked.Cam Newton is no NFL qb. I dont need to see any more of to change my mind. While he has an amazing skill set that just doesnt factor in much in being a productive player just as we have seen with Akili Smith, Ryan Leaf, Jamarcuos and the list goes on. Coaches continually get sold a bill of goods at these private workouts and combine. Cam Newton has no mechanics. I take that back, he has no positive throwing mechanics for the NFL. He throws off his back foot or throws on the run in just about every situation. Ron Riveria just tanked his first and probably only coaching chance. When will the NFL learn that it is not brute strength that makes a qb good but just general understanding of the game? Cam Newton is bad, real bad and I dont think he can ever get to a level where he is even an average qb. I am not saying he is a bust now just that he is so far off from where he needs to be its not even funny. He has gotten by on sheer physical ability until now and you should not be teaching the #1 pick basic throwing mechanics such as throwing off the correct foot. This post hasnt even addressed his horrendous ability to read defenses.The Panthers are screwed, royally.
:lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: Obviously one game does not make a season, but Cam showed he has what it takes to play in this league. Never understood the inaccurate thing as he completed such a high % at Auburn. Carolina seemed to be focused on keeping him in the pocket. I think he needs to run a little more. Especially on the last drive, they should have called a couple of bootlegs or draws. Of course it was Arizona and he will have his struggles like all rookies, but at least Newton bought himself a week of silence from all the haters.
 
this week 1 stuff is going to pollute this thread more but...awesome week. I didn't think he, or any other rookie, could possibly do that.It reminds me of all that junk they did at the combine on NFLN and just really touting this kid as if he was the only one there. It felt like such a PR effort. Anyhow, Goodell or someone in the NFL offices is probably smiling today.
Based on what I read and saw in preseason. I though it would take him 2, maybe 3 games to throw for 400 yards.I hate being wrong most of the time! :rant:
 
I drafted him yesterday as the last pick in the last round, just as a joke. Mr. Irrelevant. Now I have owners already asking about him. I'm probably going to sell now while his value is skyhigh.

 
Best debut by a rookie QB in NFL history?
Best I've ever seen.
take away the throws on the back foot and add back in the ints that should have been, his debut was somewhere between a disaster and horrendeous.
lol... what is it with some of the posters on this board... the guy had an incredible game.. no one will throw for more than 422 yards in the rookie debut for a long long time...
I was poking at some folks from earlier in the thread. I road Cam to a week 1 lead in the Anarchy league 1.
 
He looked like a man among boys. Can see over everyone and bounce around in pocket. He's going to find recievers. His acccuracey was very impressive. He'll have 7+ rushing td's with the way he's going to own the goal line.

Very likely top 12 QB.

 
I wasn't a fan of the pick for CAR. In fact, I wanted them to pick the kid that got abused by Steve Smith today, then ended up winning the game for AZ.

Hard not to love what we saw today. The numbers were nice, but it was the way he handled himself that I liked. AZ did what you are supposed to to a rookie QB. They pressured him all day. He never seemed rattled and sometimes made them pay. When he left the pocket, it was because he had to and he was trying to make plays throwing the ball down the field.

My hope is that he could be a Roethlisberger sort of QB one day, with alot of development and maybe some luck. Use his size/strength to thwart would-be sackers, extend the play, and use that cannon to make a big play down the field.

No idea if he'd get there, but that's the sort of QB I think he'd be in a perfect world (with a few more runs mixed in, but not too many).

He made some mistakes today and got lucky on a few things, but clearly it was great for a rookie.

It'll be very interesting to see what happens against a championship defense, like the one he gets next week.

What would've been really nuts is if CAR had actually passed on him, like so many of the fans wanted, only to watch him do this tomorrow night playing for Denver.

 
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Repeat after me:

- As a rookie, Tim Tebow was FFL relevant on a bad team.

- As a rookie, Vince Young was FFL relevant on a bad team.

- In his 2nd yr, Daunte Culpepper was FFL relevant.

**

I won't debate whether he will suck as an NFL QB, since I don't really care. What I will say as this, Cam Newton will absolutly get every snap this year as QB for the Panthers unless he gets hurt. He has been annointed the face of the franchise. Given the fact that he led the SEC last year in rushing with 1473 yards and 20 TDs (to go along with 30 TD passes) I am certain that as the year rolls along he will be FFL relevant. For those who aren't aware, by far the best college defense in the country is played in the SEC.

**

Typical stat line will look like this:

12 of 25, 1 int 0.9 pass TD, 177 yards

7 carries, 44 yards, .7 run TD

-

It's ugly, but it equals about 17 points a week in most leagues. And that matters. At least in our 2 QB start league it does. At 17 points per week he is QB13. At 16 per he is QB17. And he costs $1 right now. And I'll say this, while he sucks as an NFL QB, if Tebow was the starter in Denver he'd be the same. FFL gold I tell you.
I calculated the numbers you came up with...

2832 Pass Yds

13 Pass TD's

16 Interceptions

which I believe are very realistic...

704 Rush Yds

7 Rush TD's

which I believe are also very realistic after watching every Pre-season game with him this year

That gave him 277.7 Fantasy Points which he would have been ranked at #10 Overall QB from last year!!... Rushing Yards are worth 2x as much in my league and add to the overall consistancy of a QB in fantasy football because a running QB is more likely to use his feet when he can't do anything with his arm (where Passing only QB's will put up a few duds every year)...I don't think we put enough emphasis on running QB's at what they can do for "Consistancy", which is more important than the end of the year points in my opinion... a guy like Cam Newton although his passing statistics are rookie like and tend to keep most people away, YOU CANNOT IGNORE HIS RUSHING NUMBERS.. the value of a QB in Fantasy Football that runs like he does (VICK like abilities and more durable) makes his value sky rocket, and he can be more than a mesely bye week filler, but a guy who can give you a potentially huge game when you have a bad matchup/injury/bye-week SIMPLY because of his rushing numbers

DYNASTY/KEEPER get him on your roster in every league.. could lead you to FUTURE championships once he learns how to be an NFL QB...which he will... he has the work ethic of a ####### mule and Athletic Ability unlike anything we have ever seen in this league

REDRAFT- might be worth a roster sport once we watch him play a few games... really this guy has HUGE UPSIDE as a QB #2 like the post says and you can get him for next to nothing now... I wouldn't be suprised to see Waiver Wire pick-ups go crazy for him after a few weeks..
Just for this guy, I dropped Rodgers for Newton. Hope this gamble pays off.
 
Repeat after me:

- As a rookie, Tim Tebow was FFL relevant on a bad team.

- As a rookie, Vince Young was FFL relevant on a bad team.

- In his 2nd yr, Daunte Culpepper was FFL relevant.

**

I won't debate whether he will suck as an NFL QB, since I don't really care. What I will say as this, Cam Newton will absolutly get every snap this year as QB for the Panthers unless he gets hurt. He has been annointed the face of the franchise. Given the fact that he led the SEC last year in rushing with 1473 yards and 20 TDs (to go along with 30 TD passes) I am certain that as the year rolls along he will be FFL relevant. For those who aren't aware, by far the best college defense in the country is played in the SEC.

**

Typical stat line will look like this:

12 of 25, 1 int 0.9 pass TD, 177 yards

7 carries, 44 yards, .7 run TD

-

It's ugly, but it equals about 17 points a week in most leagues. And that matters. At least in our 2 QB start league it does. At 17 points per week he is QB13. At 16 per he is QB17. And he costs $1 right now. And I'll say this, while he sucks as an NFL QB, if Tebow was the starter in Denver he'd be the same. FFL gold I tell you.
I calculated the numbers you came up with...

2832 Pass Yds

13 Pass TD's

16 Interceptions

which I believe are very realistic...

704 Rush Yds

7 Rush TD's

which I believe are also very realistic after watching every Pre-season game with him this year

That gave him 277.7 Fantasy Points which he would have been ranked at #10 Overall QB from last year!!... Rushing Yards are worth 2x as much in my league and add to the overall consistancy of a QB in fantasy football because a running QB is more likely to use his feet when he can't do anything with his arm (where Passing only QB's will put up a few duds every year)...I don't think we put enough emphasis on running QB's at what they can do for "Consistancy", which is more important than the end of the year points in my opinion... a guy like Cam Newton although his passing statistics are rookie like and tend to keep most people away, YOU CANNOT IGNORE HIS RUSHING NUMBERS.. the value of a QB in Fantasy Football that runs like he does (VICK like abilities and more durable) makes his value sky rocket, and he can be more than a mesely bye week filler, but a guy who can give you a potentially huge game when you have a bad matchup/injury/bye-week SIMPLY because of his rushing numbers

DYNASTY/KEEPER get him on your roster in every league.. could lead you to FUTURE championships once he learns how to be an NFL QB...which he will... he has the work ethic of a ####### mule and Athletic Ability unlike anything we have ever seen in this league

REDRAFT- might be worth a roster sport once we watch him play a few games... really this guy has HUGE UPSIDE as a QB #2 like the post says and you can get him for next to nothing now... I wouldn't be suprised to see Waiver Wire pick-ups go crazy for him after a few weeks..
Just for this guy, I dropped Rodgers for Newton. Hope this gamble pays off.
those numbers are pretty realistic especially after watching today's game..

 
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I want to admit I was right and that you got owned. If I recall you compared him to J Russell and said "mark my word, he will bust hard"
I grovel at your feet Oh Your Majesty - my prediction on Cam Netwon was off a few hundred yards and a few TD's ........ he put on an amazing NFL debut and proved all the naysayers (including me) wrong.Now, if you've never been wrong on a player before, damn good for you. I'm actually glad for the kid, he's been through a lot with his Daddy selling his college application to Auburn etc. :boxing: Cam owners rejoice !
 
Niiiiiiice Debut! :thumbup: :thumbup:

Pure fanspeak here since I don't own him in any leagues. Looking forward to a game or two this year.

 
I was definitely in the draft someone else camp. But Cam grew on me during the off season. Still after the preseason it was easy to expect a mediocre performance where you have to squint a bit to see the good. But this was a serious answer to a lot of the questions. He can make the NFL throws he needs to make. He is working his progressions. He can be effective from under center. He can handle pressure defense. Given that Arizona has some inexperience in the secondary and that he made some rookie mistakes all in all I think he has shown that he has the tools to be a legitimate starter in this league.

 
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Best debut by a rookie QB in NFL history?
Best I've ever seen.
take away the throws on the back foot and add back in the ints that should have been, his debut was somewhere between a disaster and horrendeous.
lol... what is it with some of the posters on this board... the guy had an incredible game.. no one will throw for more than 422 yards in the rookie debut for a long long time...
I know, Even using the word horrendous with the Way Cam played is dumb. He was incredible and looked smooth moving around in the pocket, has an accurate arm and a cannon. Guy is super athletic and a very smart player on the field. He will be a top 5-7 qb in time.
 
Best debut by a rookie QB in NFL history?
Best I've ever seen.
take away the throws on the back foot and add back in the ints that should have been, his debut was somewhere between a disaster and horrendeous.
lol... what is it with some of the posters on this board... the guy had an incredible game.. no one will throw for more than 422 yards in the rookie debut for a long long time...
I know, Even using the word horrendous with the Way Cam played is dumb. He was incredible and looked smooth moving around in the pocket, has an accurate arm and a cannon. Guy is super athletic and a very smart player on the field. He will be a top 5-7 qb in time.
He was being sarcastic. Bass is the guy that bet on the panthers earlier in this thread and started Cam.
 
I would be shocked if Cam Newton isn't holding up the Super Bowl trophy during his career... with his teammate Steve Smith right there next to him.

 
Cam must have read this thread and was motivated :)He's done very well - I'm surprised, maybe CAR didn't bomb with this kid after all.
Dude,Your not getting off the hook that easy!I want to admit I was right and that you got owned. If I recall you compared him to J Russell and said "mark my word, he will bust hard"
dude, before you go breaking your arm patting yourself on the back, let's watch him for a few games before saying one way or another, mmmmkay? He has looked great today, but this is Arizona we're talking about. I'm assuming if he sucks it up next week you will bring this thread back up, right?
He's still better than Jamarcus in just one game. He could still bust, but he's better than Russell.
 
I would be shocked if Cam Newton isn't holding up the Super Bowl trophy during his career... with his teammate Steve Smith right there next to him.
That would be nice, but Smitty isn't a spring chicken so it would have to happen sooner versus later. Speaking of Steve Smith, he has had to deal with poor QB play for the past few years, and I'm so gald that he finally has a QB that has the arm to get him the ball deep again. The super smurf has returned...fired up and ready to break some faces records.
 
'TheFanatic said:
Whole lotta guys avoiding this thread today...
As a Panther fan, I am encouraged, but there is an incredibly long way to go. We'll have a better gauge after the games vs GB and Chicago. It was fun to watch him go, but it was momentary knowing that the defensive backs sans the LBs were going to have to come back out on the field shortly after the excitement.
 
'FDC said:
'T with T said:
Best debut by a rookie QB in NFL history?
Best I've ever seen.
take away the throws on the back foot and add back in the ints that should have been, his debut was somewhere between a disaster and horrendeous.
lol... what is it with some of the posters on this board... the guy had an incredible game.. no one will throw for more than 422 yards in the rookie debut for a long long time...
I know, Even using the word horrendous with the Way Cam played is dumb. He was incredible and looked smooth moving around in the pocket, has an accurate arm and a cannon. Guy is super athletic and a very smart player on the field. He will be a top 5-7 qb in time.
He was being sarcastic. Bass is the guy that bet on the panthers earlier in this thread and started Cam.
:goodposting: Glad to see the SP is dense as ever.
 
'TheFanatic said:
Whole lotta guys avoiding this thread today...
As a Panther fan, I am encouraged, but there is an incredibly long way to go. We'll have a better gauge after the games vs GB and Chicago. It was fun to watch him go, but it was momentary knowing that the defensive backs sans the LBs were going to have to come back out on the field shortly after the excitement.
None of us care about the Panthers or their D, in fact I hope it continues to suck forcing Cam to throw the ball early and often.
 

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