Can we discuss pet peeves here? (12 Viewers)

[the moops]

Hey Bike dorks..... You want me to share the road and respect your space? Don't go through red lights and make illegal left turns when I can make a legal right. And don't give me a look when I hit the brakes to avoid you. Next time I'll just run over your ***

And riding in the street well below speed limit. I feel like any vehicle in the road should be approaching the speed limit. If you can't, get off the road.

Where exactly should we ride our bikes?

 

[Scoresman]

Hey Bike dorks..... You want me to share the road and respect your space? Don't go through red lights and make illegal left turns when I can make a legal right. And don't give me a look when I hit the brakes to avoid you. Next time I'll just run over your ***

And riding in the street well below speed limit. I feel like any vehicle in the road should be approaching the speed limit. If you can't, get off the road.

Where exactly should we ride our bikes?

Somewhere else. I mean it's partly the city's fault for not having proper bike lanes, but there are plenty of instances where bikes are in the road, and they have plenty of room to move to the right a little for cars to pass but they don't.

I live in a big city with lots of one lane streets. The amount of times a bunch of cars are held up because someone decided to go on a casual bike ride in the middle of the street happens enough to be a little upset about.

 

[Terminalxylem]

Hey Bike dorks..... You want me to share the road and respect your space? Don't go through red lights and make illegal left turns when I can make a legal right. And don't give me a look when I hit the brakes to avoid you. Next time I'll just run over your ***

And riding in the street well below speed limit. I feel like any vehicle in the road should be approaching the speed limit. If you can't, get off the road.

Where exactly should we ride our bikes?

Somewhere else. I mean it's partly the city's fault for not having proper bike lanes, but there are plenty of instances where bikes are in the road, and they have plenty of room to move to the right a little for cars to pass but they don't.

I live in a big city with lots of one lane streets. The amount of times a bunch of cars are held up because someone decided to go on a casual bike ride in the middle of the street happens enough to be a little upset about.

While misbehaving cyclists are a problem, as a motorist, you may not realize how much debris accumulates on the sides of the road, such that sticking to the shoulder, or even designated bike lane, is a flat tire waiting to happen. And ginormous trucks squeezing by the cyclist isn’t ideal either.

The solution is to take the lane, until it’s safe to move over.

But a bike should be able to move about as fast as a car on congested city streets, regardless.

 

[DA RAIDERS]

Bicycles have the same rights to the road as motorcycles. Give them space.

 

[Terminalxylem]

Bicycles have the same rights to the road as motorcycles. Give them space.

Yep. And bike lanes are more congested than ever, with a bunch of electric vehicles - scooters, e-bikes, one-wheels, etc. vying for limited real estate.

 

[Scoresman]

I love how if it was a car going 10 mph on a one lane road, most people would be up in arms, but if it’s a bike doing the same thing, suddenly they get to dictate the speed limits.

 

[belljr]

Bicycles have the same rights to the road as motorcycles. Give them space.

Then follow the same traffic laws!!!!!

 

[DA RAIDERS]

I love how if it was a car going 10 mph on a one lane road, most people would be up in arms, but if it’s a bike doing the same thing, suddenly they get to dictate the speed limits.

Most* will pull to the side when safe

Bicycles have the same rights to the road as motorcycles. Give them space.

Then follow the same traffic laws!!!!!

See above. Most*

*there are maroons in every subset

 

[Terminalxylem]

Bicycles have the same rights to the road as motorcycles. Give them space.

Then follow the same traffic laws!!!!!

It’s tough to know who behaves worse, motorists or cyclists.

When I biked, I didn’t run lights, ignore street signs, or ride on sidewalks. But I would take the lane, when the alternative was less safe.

I also was yelled/honked at on numerous occasions, spit on, and had stuff thrown at me. Not because I was breaking the law. Because people hate cyclists.

I was hit twice, once by a car taking an illegal right turn. The second was my fault though, as I was following too close.

Anyway, just about everyone can stand to improve their behavior on shared roads.

 

[STEADYMOBBIN 22]

Hey Bike dorks..... You want me to share the road and respect your space? Don't go through red lights and make illegal left turns when I can make a legal right. And don't give me a look when I hit the brakes to avoid you. Next time I'll just run over your ***

I’m very much pro bikes but what you said, exactly. If I’m going to have to keep my head on a swivel looking out for you in your superhero undies, you gotta follow the rules too.

 

[STEADYMOBBIN 22]

Bicycles have the same rights to the road as motorcycles. Give them space.

I always do. Just irks me to watch them blow through intersections, both because it’s wrong and dangerous.

I’m so pro bikes have rights that I’m even pro horse. Bucket list item is to ride a horse to the White House right down 16th st.

 

[Mrs. Rannous]

If I never hear "saucy nuggs" again, I can die happy. Does that sell anything to anyone?

 

[Terminalxylem]

Bicycles have the same rights to the road as motorcycles. Give them space.

I always do. Just irks me to watch them blow through intersections, both because it’s wrong and dangerous.

I’m so pro bikes have rights that I’m even pro horse. Bucket list item is to ride a horse to the White House right down 16th st.

Agree

However, people should be aware some states allow cyclists to treat stop signs as yields, to facilitate the “rolling stop”, which is apparently safer. Others let cyclists treat stop lights as stop signs. NHTSA summary here:

Communities across the United States have been exploring ways to increase bicyclist safety and reduce
confusion in potentially hazardous and high-risk situations. Many States have enacted bicycle safety laws to
enhance safety and protect all road users. For example, bicyclist stop-as-yield laws allow bicyclists to treat
stop signs as yield signs and/or red-light signals as stop signs. These laws allow bicyclists to mitigate risk to
their advantage. “Stopping discourages bicycling, substantially increasing time, energy expenditure,
discomfort, risk of collisions, and risk for strain and overuse injuries” (Tekle, 2017).

In 1982, Idaho was the first State to pass such a law, commonly known as the “Idaho Stop Law.” The law
allows bicyclists to yield at stop signs and proceed when safe, rather than come to a complete stop. After Idaho
adopted the law, bicyclist injuries from traffic crashes declined by 14.5% the following year (Meggs, 2010). In
2017, Delaware adopted a similar, limited stop-as-yield law, known
as the "Delaware Yield.” Traffic crashes involving bicyclists at stop
sign intersections fell by 23% in the 30 months after the law’s
passage, compared to the previous 30 months. Eight States (Arkansas,
Delaware, Idaho, North Dakota, Oklahoma, Oregon, Utah, and
Washington) have similar laws. Colorado passed a law in 2018 that
allowed local municipalities to adopt standard language on safe
bicycle yielding at stops. Table 1 shows a summary of State law
characteristics. These laws do not negate a bicyclist’s responsibility to
yield to other traffic before crossing an intersection or to follow all
work zone traffic rules. State laws vary, so bicyclists must be sure to
know the laws in their State.

Also of note, most states require a 3-foot space cushion when a motorist passes a bike, summarized here:

As of September 2021, 35 states—Alabama, Arizona, Arkansas, California, Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware, Florida, Georgia, Hawaii, Illinois, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Maine, Maryland, Michigan, Minnesota, Mississippi, Nebraska, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Jersey, North Dakota, Ohio, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, South Dakota, Tennessee, Virginia, Utah, Washington, West Virginia, Wisconsin and Wyoming—and the District of Columbia have enacted passing laws that require the motorist to leave at least 3-feet or more when passing a bicyclist.

North Carolina has a 2 feet passing requirement for motorists, and also allows passing in a no-pass zone if a motorist leaves 4 feet clearance.

Three states have laws that go beyond a 3-feet passing law. New Jersey and Pennsylvania have 4-feet passing laws. South Dakota enacted a two-tiered passing law in 2015; with a three-foot passing requirement on roads with posted speeds of thirty-five miles per hour or less and a minimum of six feet separation for roads with speed limits greater than thirty-five miles per hour.

Additionally, seven states, California, Delaware, Georgia, Kentucky, Nevada, Oklahoma and Washington, require a motorist to completely change lanes when passing a bicyclist if there is more than one lane proceeding in the same direction and traffic conditions allow the motorist to change lanes.

Now I know some cyclists selectively ignore traffic laws, as do some motorists, but it would behoove all of us to familiarize ourselves with the applicable laws anywhere we drive or cycle.

 

[Terminalxylem]

BTW, those “undies” facilitate riding faster, and keep the saucy nuggs from chafing.

 

[Keerock]

If I never hear "saucy nuggs" again, I can die happy. Does that sell anything to anyone?

"nuggs" in general... but adding saucy is extra cringy

 

[the moops]

Bicycles have the same rights to the road as motorcycles. Give them space.

Then follow the same traffic laws!!!!!

Nearly every motorist breaks at least one traffic law every single time they are on the road. Over the speed limit, rolling through a stop sign, not yielding to pedestrians, tailgating too close, stopping in a crosswalk, etc.

 

[glvsav37]

When you stop your car to let someone walk in front of you at a store entrance and they take a diagonal path across the roadway. 90-effin degrees pal! Shortest route across. You can bang your hard left once you are safely on the other side so traffic can flow again!!

 

[3C's]

Bicycles have the same rights to the road as motorcycles. Give them space.

Then follow the same traffic laws!!!!!

What law says you must maintain X mph (go the speed limit) on a city street? It doesn't exist in most locations. Only on highways.

 

[Scoresman]

Bicycles have the same rights to the road as motorcycles. Give them space.

Then follow the same traffic laws!!!!!

Nearly every motorist breaks at least one traffic law every single time they are on the road. Over the speed limit, rolling through a stop sign, not yielding to pedestrians, tailgating too close, stopping in a crosswalk, etc.

Right but stuff like that doesn’t potentially annoy other motorists like someone going 15mph in the middle of the road.

I think a good rule of thumb is if you can at least approach the speed limit, fine. If you can’t, ride somewhere else. This applies to any vehicle that occupies the road. Not just bikes.

 

[3C's]

Bicycles have the same rights to the road as motorcycles. Give them space.

Then follow the same traffic laws!!!!!

It’s tough to know who behaves worse, motorists or cyclists.

When I biked, I didn’t run lights, ignore street signs, or ride on sidewalks. But I would take the lane, when the alternative was less safe.

I also was yelled/honked at on numerous occasions, spit on, and had stuff thrown at me. Not because I was breaking the law. Because people hate cyclists.

I was hit twice, once by a car taking an illegal right turn. The second was my fault though, as I was following too close.

Anyway, just about everyone can stand to improve their behavior on shared roads.

I was riding a city street once years ago and some dumbass in a truck yelled at me to ride on the sidewalk. To his dismay, the light ahead turned red and he almost got an *** kicking.

 

[Scoresman]

Bicycles have the same rights to the road as motorcycles. Give them space.

Then follow the same traffic laws!!!!!

What law says you must maintain X mph (go the speed limit) on a city street? It doesn't exist in most locations. Only on highways.

Probably depends on where you are. I know I’ve lived in places where you can be pulled over for going too slow.

Allowing cars to backup behind a slower vehicle is not really creating a safe driving condition.

 

[the moops]

Why exactly can’t you pass the guy on the bike even if he is in the middle of the road?

 

[Scoresman]

Why exactly can’t you pass the guy on the bike even if he is in the middle of the road?

Lots of one lane roads in Portland with enough traffic that you just can't. Many situations where someone slow creates a back up of cars behind them. IT's not just bikes. There's a subset of people here who just love going 15 in a 25.

 

[3C's]

Bicycles have the same rights to the road as motorcycles. Give them space.

Then follow the same traffic laws!!!!!

What law says you must maintain X mph (go the speed limit) on a city street? It doesn't exist in most locations. Only on highways.

Probably depends on where you are. I know I’ve lived in places where you can be pulled over for going too slow.

Allowing cars to backup behind a slower vehicle is not really creating a safe driving condition.

They're not ticketing bikes. Period. Maybe an unauthorized vehicle (motorized wheelchair) or a vehicle capable of doing the speed limit but doesn't.

Obviously you guys why think this way never lived in a rural area. Farm tractors use the road all the time and can't go the posted speed.

 

[belljr]

Bicycles have the same rights to the road as motorcycles. Give them space.

Then follow the same traffic laws!!!!!

What law says you must maintain X mph (go the speed limit) on a city street? It doesn't exist in most locations. Only on highways.

I don't care about speed limit. I live in a suburbs. My post was specific about a guying going through a red light illegally and making a left in front of me as I was turning right legally and then staring at me like I was at fault

 

[Scoresman]

Bicycles have the same rights to the road as motorcycles. Give them space.

Then follow the same traffic laws!!!!!

What law says you must maintain X mph (go the speed limit) on a city street? It doesn't exist in most locations. Only on highways.

Probably depends on where you are. I know I’ve lived in places where you can be pulled over for going too slow.

Allowing cars to backup behind a slower vehicle is not really creating a safe driving condition.

They're not ticketing bikes. Period. Maybe an unauthorized vehicle (motorized wheelchair) or a vehicle capable of doing the speed limit but doesn't.

Obviously you guys why think this way never lived in a rural area. Farm tractors use the road all the time and can't go the posted speed.

It’s not a matter of whether they can get a ticket. It’s inconsiderate to hold up a ton of cars like that. If I was on a bike and was holding up cars like that, I’d be mortified.

 

[Terminalxylem]

Bicycles have the same rights to the road as motorcycles. Give them space.

Then follow the same traffic laws!!!!!

Nearly every motorist breaks at least one traffic law every single time they are on the road. Over the speed limit, rolling through a stop sign, not yielding to pedestrians, tailgating too close, stopping in a crosswalk, etc.

Don’t forget using cell phones and blinker laws! I wonder if any driver complies with every law?

Speed limits have to be among the most frequently broken laws, period, rivaled only by jaywalking, underage drinking and gambling, maybe.

 

[Terminalxylem]

Bicycles have the same rights to the road as motorcycles. Give them space.

Then follow the same traffic laws!!!!!

It’s tough to know who behaves worse, motorists or cyclists.

When I biked, I didn’t run lights, ignore street signs, or ride on sidewalks. But I would take the lane, when the alternative was less safe.

I also was yelled/honked at on numerous occasions, spit on, and had stuff thrown at me. Not because I was breaking the law. Because people hate cyclists.

I was hit twice, once by a car taking an illegal right turn. The second was my fault though, as I was following too close.

Anyway, just about everyone can stand to improve their behavior on shared roads.

I was riding a city street once years ago and some dumbass in a truck yelled at me to ride on the sidewalk. To his dismay, the light ahead turned red and he almost got an *** kicking.

It’s illegal to ride on sidewalks in many cities. And fight.

 

[belljr]

You funny helmet wearers sure are defensive

 

[Terminalxylem]

Bicycles have the same rights to the road as motorcycles. Give them space.

Then follow the same traffic laws!!!!!

Nearly every motorist breaks at least one traffic law every single time they are on the road. Over the speed limit, rolling through a stop sign, not yielding to pedestrians, tailgating too close, stopping in a crosswalk, etc.

Right but stuff like that doesn’t potentially annoy other motorists like someone going 15mph in the middle of the road.

I think a good rule of thumb is if you can at least approach the speed limit, fine. If you can’t, ride somewhere else. This applies to any vehicle that occupies the road. Not just bikes.

Tailgating annoys me much more than being stuck behind a cyclist for a few seconds, and is far more likely to result in an accident, causing annoying traffic.

 

[Terminalxylem]

You funny helmet wearers sure are defensive

If we’re not, impatient a-holes threaten our funny bones.

 

[3C's]

You funny helmet wearers sure are defensive

I don't wear a helmet cuz I'm a rebel

 

[3C's]

Bicycles have the same rights to the road as motorcycles. Give them space.

Then follow the same traffic laws!!!!!

What law says you must maintain X mph (go the speed limit) on a city street? It doesn't exist in most locations. Only on highways.

Probably depends on where you are. I know I’ve lived in places where you can be pulled over for going too slow.

Allowing cars to backup behind a slower vehicle is not really creating a safe driving condition.

They're not ticketing bikes. Period. Maybe an unauthorized vehicle (motorized wheelchair) or a vehicle capable of doing the speed limit but doesn't.

Obviously you guys why think this way never lived in a rural area. Farm tractors use the road all the time and can't go the posted speed.

It’s not a matter of whether they can get a ticket. It’s inconsiderate to hold up a ton of cars like that. If I was on a bike and was holding up cars like that, I’d be mortified.

Oh boo ****ing hoo.

 

[3C's]

Bicycles have the same rights to the road as motorcycles. Give them space.

Then follow the same traffic laws!!!!!

It’s tough to know who behaves worse, motorists or cyclists.

When I biked, I didn’t run lights, ignore street signs, or ride on sidewalks. But I would take the lane, when the alternative was less safe.

I also was yelled/honked at on numerous occasions, spit on, and had stuff thrown at me. Not because I was breaking the law. Because people hate cyclists.

I was hit twice, once by a car taking an illegal right turn. The second was my fault though, as I was following too close.

Anyway, just about everyone can stand to improve their behavior on shared roads.

I was riding a city street once years ago and some dumbass in a truck yelled at me to ride on the sidewalk. To his dismay, the light ahead turned red and he almost got an *** kicking.

It’s illegal to ride on sidewalks in many cities. And fight.

Exactly. Technically it wouldn't have been a fight.

 

[Scoresman]

Bicycles have the same rights to the road as motorcycles. Give them space.

Then follow the same traffic laws!!!!!

What law says you must maintain X mph (go the speed limit) on a city street? It doesn't exist in most locations. Only on highways.

Probably depends on where you are. I know I’ve lived in places where you can be pulled over for going too slow.

Allowing cars to backup behind a slower vehicle is not really creating a safe driving condition.

They're not ticketing bikes. Period. Maybe an unauthorized vehicle (motorized wheelchair) or a vehicle capable of doing the speed limit but doesn't.

Obviously you guys why think this way never lived in a rural area. Farm tractors use the road all the time and can't go the posted speed.

It’s not a matter of whether they can get a ticket. It’s inconsiderate to hold up a ton of cars like that. If I was on a bike and was holding up cars like that, I’d be mortified.

Oh boo ****ing hoo.

This is a pet peeve thread. Not sure what you’re expecting. You can say that anytime the actions of one person negatively affect the many.

 

[Mrs. Rannous]

This is a pet peeve thread. Not sure what you’re expecting. You can say that anytime the actions of one person negatively affect the many.

If you think blocking the aisle in a supermarket with your cart doesn't negatively affect the many, you are mistaken.

 

[3C's]

Bicycles have the same rights to the road as motorcycles. Give them space.

Then follow the same traffic laws!!!!!

What law says you must maintain X mph (go the speed limit) on a city street? It doesn't exist in most locations. Only on highways.

Probably depends on where you are. I know I’ve lived in places where you can be pulled over for going too slow.

Allowing cars to backup behind a slower vehicle is not really creating a safe driving condition.

They're not ticketing bikes. Period. Maybe an unauthorized vehicle (motorized wheelchair) or a vehicle capable of doing the speed limit but doesn't.

Obviously you guys why think this way never lived in a rural area. Farm tractors use the road all the time and can't go the posted speed.

It’s not a matter of whether they can get a ticket. It’s inconsiderate to hold up a ton of cars like that. If I was on a bike and was holding up cars like that, I’d be mortified.

Oh boo ****ing hoo.

This is a pet peeve thread. Not sure what you’re expecting. You can say that anytime the actions of one person negatively affect the many.

Sorry for your 30 seconds of inconvenience by those rude people just trying to get somewhere.

 

[Zeppelin]

This is a pet peeve thread.

I must have got lost. I thought this was the car vs. bike thread.

 

[belljr]

This is a pet peeve thread.

I must have got lost. I thought this was the car vs. bike thread.

Only bikes with a fancy bell on it

 

[3C's]

This is a pet peeve thread.

I must have got lost. I thought this was the car vs. bike thread.

Only bikes with a fancy bell on it

Heck no on the bell. Gotta go with this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1YZpolqB6Us

 

[5-ish Finkle]

If I never hear "saucy nuggs" again, I can die happy. Does that sell anything to anyone?

"nuggs" in general... but adding saucy is extra cringy

ALL this kinda nonsense can get launched into the sun.

"Brekie sando"? No. Its a breakfast sandwich.

Winning a fantasy sports title is not a "chip." This isnt the WSOP. Nor is it a "'ship" (unless youre really saying youre in a bad anime fanfic league, then I suppose that would be accurate)

 

[Mrs. Rannous]

If I never hear "saucy nuggs" again, I can die happy. Does that sell anything to anyone?

"nuggs" in general... but adding saucy is extra cringy

ALL this kinda nonsense can get launched into the sun.

"Brekie sando"? No. Its a breakfast sandwich.

Winning a fantasy sports title is not a "chip." This isnt the WSOP. Nor is it a "'ship" (unless youre really saying youre in a bad anime fanfic league, then I suppose that would be accurate)

How lazy do you have to be to not be able to say the whole word? Ugh.

 

[3C's]

If I never hear "saucy nuggs" again, I can die happy. Does that sell anything to anyone?

"nuggs" in general... but adding saucy is extra cringy

ALL this kinda nonsense can get launched into the sun.

"Brekie sando"? No. Its a breakfast sandwich.

Winning a fantasy sports title is not a "chip." This isnt the WSOP. Nor is it a "'ship" (unless youre really saying youre in a bad anime fanfic league, then I suppose that would be accurate)

How lazy do you have to be to not be able to say the whole word? Ugh.

It's the Kardashian curse. Keep hearing a commercial where one of them talks about the "drams".

Guessing the nuggs and brekie are those stupid Wendy's commercials where they have old guys acting as employees laying out the cool speak.

 

[belljr]

I have saucy nuggs in my underpants

 

[dino259]

Saucy nuggs or trash

the payoff is towards the end of the 2 minute video.

 

[Terminalxylem]

Bicycles have the same rights to the road as motorcycles. Give them space.

Then follow the same traffic laws!!!!!

What law says you must maintain X mph (go the speed limit) on a city street? It doesn't exist in most locations. Only on highways.

Probably depends on where you are. I know I’ve lived in places where you can be pulled over for going too slow.

Allowing cars to backup behind a slower vehicle is not really creating a safe driving condition.

They're not ticketing bikes. Period. Maybe an unauthorized vehicle (motorized wheelchair) or a vehicle capable of doing the speed limit but doesn't.

Obviously you guys why think this way never lived in a rural area. Farm tractors use the road all the time and can't go the posted speed.

It’s not a matter of whether they can get a ticket. It’s inconsiderate to hold up a ton of cars like that. If I was on a bike and was holding up cars like that, I’d be mortified.

Oh boo ****ing hoo.

This is a pet peeve thread. Not sure what you’re expecting. You can say that anytime the actions of one person negatively affect the many.

Sorry for your 30 seconds of inconvenience by those rude people just trying to get somewhere.

Of all of the things contributing to traffic delays, cyclists are reaaaally low on the list.

Peeve rejected.

 

[Scoresman]

Bicycles have the same rights to the road as motorcycles. Give them space.

Then follow the same traffic laws!!!!!

What law says you must maintain X mph (go the speed limit) on a city street? It doesn't exist in most locations. Only on highways.

Probably depends on where you are. I know I’ve lived in places where you can be pulled over for going too slow.

Allowing cars to backup behind a slower vehicle is not really creating a safe driving condition.

They're not ticketing bikes. Period. Maybe an unauthorized vehicle (motorized wheelchair) or a vehicle capable of doing the speed limit but doesn't.

Obviously you guys why think this way never lived in a rural area. Farm tractors use the road all the time and can't go the posted speed.

It’s not a matter of whether they can get a ticket. It’s inconsiderate to hold up a ton of cars like that. If I was on a bike and was holding up cars like that, I’d be mortified.

Oh boo ****ing hoo.

This is a pet peeve thread. Not sure what you’re expecting. You can say that anytime the actions of one person negatively affect the many.

Sorry for your 30 seconds of inconvenience by those rude people just trying to get somewhere.

Of all of the things contributing to traffic delays, cyclists are reaaaally low on the list.

Peeve rejected.

I never said it was high. Just very annoying when it happens and it’s a situation that I feel is really easy to work around as the cyclist.

 

[parasaurolophus]

It’s illegal to ride on sidewalks in many cities. And fight.

Unfortunately not where i live.

E bikes that were on the sidewalk going against traffic keep getting hit at intersections by people making turns.

 

[3C's]

Speaking of pet peeve, E bikes. Here I am working my tail off on my heavy hybrid (on/off road) bike and some old lady flies by me on an E bike without even breaking a sweat.

 

[Scoresman]

Speaking of pet peeve, E bikes. Here I am working my tail off on my heavy hybrid (on/off road) bike and some old lady flies by me on an E bike without even breaking a sweat.

And it sounds like they're going the speed limit!