Can we discuss pet peeves here? (3 Viewers)

[SayChowda]

I think it was something like Woburn Mass…

Couldn’t have two pichers of beer on the table

Can’t stand and drink. Must be sitting.

Could not buy beer with an out of state license unless you were 30 or older.

Yep, this was definitely a thing.
Next door in Stoneham you had to order food to get a drink. Used to go to Ground Round and sit at the bar and order french fries to go and 600 beers

I miss the Ground Round. I feel like now that i have kids it would be a great place to take them.

 

[Cowboysfan8]

Instead of complaining I’d like to give thanks that my pet peeve of not being able to get away from political ads ends today !!

:cheers:

 

[belljr]

Ground fn Round man that brings back memories

 

[the moops]

Ground Round we would go to had a side room where they played Three Stooges on repeat. Was that a thing elsewhere?

Three Stooges and peanut shells all over the ground

 

[belljr]

Ground Round we would go to had a side room where they played Three Stooges on repeat. Was that a thing elsewhere?

Three Stooges and peanut shells all over the ground

I recall sports highlights on like a projector also .......the one near me closed like 20 years ago

 

[Harry Frogfish]

I know Louisiana has many flaws, but I don't think I could live somewhere else with all of the bizarre liquor rules. We can buy beer or liquor at literally every gas station, grocery store or drug store etc, and we don't need employees to get it for us. Just walk in and get what you want. Sometimes I see those anti theft devices on top of bottles, but that's it.

CA is almost this way. No liquor at gas stations. But everything else

I can get liquor at a gas station in San Diego. North County, right off the freeway, in Cardiff. In fact they have one of the better microbrew selections around. Hard liquor too, behind the counter, not locked. You can walk to the side of the register and get it yourself.

 

[massraider]

I remember having to sign-up for a drink in Utah. Drove through there many times and you had to give information and a signature. Even in Park City, at a bar. For what, exactly? Was the idea that others could find out who the drinkers were because they were filling out some form? A veiled shaming thing? No clue how that designation was important or going to make any difference.

Assume that's no longer the case in Utah, or somebody in here would've brought it up already, yes?

Utah is all kinds of weird. You can't order a drink at a restaurant bar without ordering food. You have to become a 'member' (which is probably why you had to sign) of a place to order an adult drink. Beers are 3.2. Bizzaro world there.

So they STILL do the "member" thing??? That is nuts. What is the reasoning or purpose, exactly?

I think some places/cities got rid of the membership thing, but I'm fairly certain if you stroll into a - say Chili's or BWW - and sit at the bar, they won't serve you unless you order some fries or something.

It depends on the liquor license of the place. If it’s 21 and over, no food order needed. Otherwise, yes. It’s really weird.

At deer valley, I went to order a beer inside after skiing and the lady said I had to order food. She immediately said “the cookie is cheapest thing on the menu”. She’d obviously had to field the wtf look on my face a million times. So I got a beer, my kid got a cookie. Winning? But there’s a walk up window outside that I can get a beer without ordering any food. So weird. My kid isn’t as happy with no cookies anymore

I have a ton of empathy for restaurant workers in Utah who spend hours of their lives explaining the rules over and over again

 

[Harry Frogfish]

I remember having to sign-up for a drink in Utah. Drove through there many times and you had to give information and a signature. Even in Park City, at a bar. For what, exactly? Was the idea that others could find out who the drinkers were because they were filling out some form? A veiled shaming thing? No clue how that designation was important or going to make any difference.

Assume that's no longer the case in Utah, or somebody in here would've brought it up already, yes?

Utah is all kinds of weird. You can't order a drink at a restaurant bar without ordering food. You have to become a 'member' (which is probably why you had to sign) of a place to order an adult drink. Beers are 3.2. Bizzaro world there.

So they STILL do the "member" thing??? That is nuts. What is the reasoning or purpose, exactly?

I think some places/cities got rid of the membership thing, but I'm fairly certain if you stroll into a - say Chili's or BWW - and sit at the bar, they won't serve you unless you order some fries or something.

Amazing to me a "law" like that still exists. It's been so long since I've been I figured they must have realized by now how useless that must be. But no. You're right. Utah. Good lord.

 

[Harry Frogfish]

I remember having to sign-up for a drink in Utah. Drove through there many times and you had to give information and a signature. Even in Park City, at a bar. For what, exactly? Was the idea that others could find out who the drinkers were because they were filling out some form? A veiled shaming thing? No clue how that designation was important or going to make any difference.

Assume that's no longer the case in Utah, or somebody in here would've brought it up already, yes?

Utah is all kinds of weird. You can't order a drink at a restaurant bar without ordering food. You have to become a 'member' (which is probably why you had to sign) of a place to order an adult drink. Beers are 3.2. Bizzaro world there.

So they STILL do the "member" thing??? That is nuts. What is the reasoning or purpose, exactly?

I think some places/cities got rid of the membership thing, but I'm fairly certain if you stroll into a - say Chili's or BWW - and sit at the bar, they won't serve you unless you order some fries or something.

It depends on the liquor license of the place. If it’s 21 and over, no food order needed. Otherwise, yes. It’s really weird.

At deer valley, I went to order a beer inside after skiing and the lady said I had to order food. She immediately said “the cookie is cheapest thing on the menu”. She’d obviously had to field the wtf look on my face a million times. So I got a beer, my kid got a cookie. Winning? But there’s a walk up window outside that I can get a beer without ordering any food. So weird. My kid isn’t as happy with no cookies anymore

I have a ton of empathy for restaurant workers in Utah who spend hours of their lives explaining the rules over and over again

I'll never forget the first time driving through Utah with my Dad and we pulled into some hotel and go to get a bite and a beer. The look on his face when she started explaining how to "join the club" and how it was members only, was one I never forgot. Hysterical. He legit thought she was F'ing with us and laughed it off. Then ordered a drink. She came back with forms and no drink. He then realized she wasn't kidding and that look was even better.

Next day we tried in another town to get a little quicker service by showing our Utah Diner's Club Alcoholic Cards first, but got denied. Had to fill out new forms.

He jokingly asked if it would help if we got them laminated. She wasn't sure, lol. So yeah, poor servers is right.

 

[Mrs. Rannous]

Once the Blue Laws went away, liquor laws became normal here in Texas.

I miss Beverage Barns. Pull in your pick-up truck, and helpful people put the keg in the back for you. The height of civilization.

I had to sign up for a "membership" at one bar in Tyler. It didn't cost me anything but they had to run my ID and I had to sign something before they'd serve me.

E2A - this was like maybe 6 months ago?

Smith County was a long-time dry county. Their liquor laws are weird. Not a state thing, though.

 

[SayChowda]

Ground Round we would go to had a side room where they played Three Stooges on repeat. Was that a thing elsewhere?

Three Stooges and peanut shells all over the ground

And I think kids pay what they weigh.

 

[DA RAIDERS]

I know Louisiana has many flaws, but I don't think I could live somewhere else with all of the bizarre liquor rules. We can buy beer or liquor at literally every gas station, grocery store or drug store etc, and we don't need employees to get it for us. Just walk in and get what you want. Sometimes I see those anti theft devices on top of bottles, but that's it.

CA is almost this way. No liquor at gas stations. But everything else

I can get liquor at a gas station in San Diego. North County, right off the freeway, in Cardiff. In fact they have one of the better microbrew selections around. Hard liquor too, behind the counter, not locked. You can walk to the side of the register and get it yourself.

Huh. I don’t go to many gas stations anymore. Costco for gas. I just don’t remember hard liquor in them. Everything else though

 

[DA RAIDERS]

I remember having to sign-up for a drink in Utah. Drove through there many times and you had to give information and a signature. Even in Park City, at a bar. For what, exactly? Was the idea that others could find out who the drinkers were because they were filling out some form? A veiled shaming thing? No clue how that designation was important or going to make any difference.

Assume that's no longer the case in Utah, or somebody in here would've brought it up already, yes?

Utah is all kinds of weird. You can't order a drink at a restaurant bar without ordering food. You have to become a 'member' (which is probably why you had to sign) of a place to order an adult drink. Beers are 3.2. Bizzaro world there.

So they STILL do the "member" thing??? That is nuts. What is the reasoning or purpose, exactly?

I think some places/cities got rid of the membership thing, but I'm fairly certain if you stroll into a - say Chili's or BWW - and sit at the bar, they won't serve you unless you order some fries or something.

It depends on the liquor license of the place. If it’s 21 and over, no food order needed. Otherwise, yes. It’s really weird.

At deer valley, I went to order a beer inside after skiing and the lady said I had to order food. She immediately said “the cookie is cheapest thing on the menu”. She’d obviously had to field the wtf look on my face a million times. So I got a beer, my kid got a cookie. Winning? But there’s a walk up window outside that I can get a beer without ordering any food. So weird. My kid isn’t as happy with no cookies anymore

I have a ton of empathy for restaurant workers in Utah who spend hours of their lives explaining the rules over and over again

I'll never forget the first time driving through Utah with my Dad and we pulled into some hotel and go to get a bite and a beer. The look on his face when she started explaining how to "join the club" and how it was members only, was one I never forgot. Hysterical. He legit thought she was F'ing with us and laughed it off. Then ordered a drink. She came back with forms and no drink. He then realized she wasn't kidding and that look was even better.

Next day we tried in another town to get a little quicker service by showing our Utah Diner's Club Alcoholic Cards first, but got denied. Had to fill out new forms.

He jokingly asked if it would help if we got them laminated. She wasn't sure, lol. So yeah, poor servers is right.

I almost got in a fight the first time I went to a bar in Utah. It was in park city 30 something years ago. Like your dad, I just thought the bartender was f’ing with me. We went 3 to 4 rounds of me asking for a drink and the bartender flippantly just saying nope/no. The situation was diffused by a guy on the other side of the bar saying, “I’ll sponsor them”. Meaning that a current “member” had to sponsor a noobie. We got the drink but couldn’t get another until we joined and paid a small fee. Sooooooo dumb

 

[shuke]

Ground Round we would go to had a side room where they played Three Stooges on repeat. Was that a thing elsewhere?

Three Stooges and peanut shells all over the ground

Ours had two sides. One side had the bar and sports on TVs, the other side had the screen with Three Stooges and other similar stuff on the screen, free popcorn, peanut shells all over the floor. Glorious.

 

[jamny]

People posting selfies with their "I voted" stickers.

 

[Terminalxylem]

I remember having to sign-up for a drink in Utah. Drove through there many times and you had to give information and a signature. Even in Park City, at a bar. For what, exactly? Was the idea that others could find out who the drinkers were because they were filling out some form? A veiled shaming thing? No clue how that designation was important or going to make any difference.

Assume that's no longer the case in Utah, or somebody in here would've brought it up already, yes?

Utah is all kinds of weird. You can't order a drink at a restaurant bar without ordering food. You have to become a 'member' (which is probably why you had to sign) of a place to order an adult drink. Beers are 3.2. Bizzaro world there.

So they STILL do the "member" thing??? That is nuts. What is the reasoning or purpose, exactly?

I think some places/cities got rid of the membership thing, but I'm fairly certain if you stroll into a - say Chili's or BWW - and sit at the bar, they won't serve you unless you order some fries or something.

It depends on the liquor license of the place. If it’s 21 and over, no food order needed. Otherwise, yes. It’s really weird.

At deer valley, I went to order a beer inside after skiing and the lady said I had to order food. She immediately said “the cookie is cheapest thing on the menu”. She’d obviously had to field the wtf look on my face a million times. So I got a beer, my kid got a cookie. Winning? But there’s a walk up window outside that I can get a beer without ordering any food. So weird. My kid isn’t as happy with no cookies anymore

I have a ton of empathy for restaurant workers in Utah who spend hours of their lives explaining the rules over and over again

I'll never forget the first time driving through Utah with my Dad and we pulled into some hotel and go to get a bite and a beer. The look on his face when she started explaining how to "join the club" and how it was members only, was one I never forgot. Hysterical. He legit thought she was F'ing with us and laughed it off. Then ordered a drink. She came back with forms and no drink. He then realized she wasn't kidding and that look was even better.

Next day we tried in another town to get a little quicker service by showing our Utah Diner's Club Alcoholic Cards first, but got denied. Had to fill out new forms.

He jokingly asked if it would help if we got them laminated. She wasn't sure, lol. So yeah, poor servers is right.

I almost got in a fight the first time I went to a bar in Utah. It was in park city 30 something years ago. Like your dad, I just thought the bartender was f’ing with me. We went 3 to 4 rounds of me asking for a drink and the bartender flippantly just saying nope/no. The situation was diffused by a guy on the other side of the bar saying, “I’ll sponsor them”. Meaning that a current “member” had to sponsor a noobie. We got the drink but couldn’t get another until we joined and paid a small fee. Sooooooo dumb

I don’t care much about liquor laws, but am extremely thankful Utah’s laws and ?culture are distasteful enough to keep some people away. If I didn’t have family ties to HI, Utah would top my list of awesome places to move.

 

[Pip's Invitation]

Just hate the interviews of coaches while games are in progress. The questions are dull and vapid as are the answers.
Coaches are distracted and the interviews add nothing.

Agreed. They are not informative nor entertaining. Who actually wants to see them? And why do the networks insist on doing them?

 

[nirad3]

Just hate the interviews of coaches while games are in progress. The questions are dull and vapid as are the answers.
Coaches are distracted and the interviews add nothing.

Agreed. They are not informative nor entertaining. Who actually wants to see them? And why do the networks insist on doing them?

Because, I would imagine, they think that the average (or below average) viewer thinks that they (being the media / network) have all sorts of "credibility" if they are able to get the coaches to offer even a sliver of insight as to the past quarter, half, period, etc. and what they'll be looking to do in the rest of the contest.

 

[the moops]

There is even a sign, a huge sign, that says "take turns merging at merge point" yet some refuse and get all prickly when we try and zipper merge. Zipper merge y'all!!

 

[3C's]

There is even a sign, a huge sign, that says "take turns merging at merge point" yet some refuse and get all prickly when we try and zipper merge. Zipper merge y'all!!

The problem is people don't merge at the merge point though. Someone will merge several cars before the merge point and then you have the cars behind that person rushing to get past that and to the front so you have the "open" lane moving slower and the blocked lane moving faster, and people get "prickly". If zipper merge worked like intended that would be great but it never does; one lane, usually the blocked lane, moves faster.

 

[nirad3]

There is even a sign, a huge sign, that says "take turns merging at merge point" yet some refuse and get all prickly when we try and zipper merge. Zipper merge y'all!!

I remember the Cities being super into the zipper-merge. It's glorious, and yeah here in SoCal people get all bent out of shape when you try doing it.

 

[Gatorade]

Airports that tell you to be there 3 hours early for international flights but then don’t let you through security until a gate has been assigned an hour before the flight.

I think that the 3 hours is a TSA mandate.

It's mostly just CYA from the airline/airport in case something crazy happens and it takes forever to get through.

I've also only ever experienced the one hour before thing at the TINIEST of airports, like sub four gates and you walk up a stairway or ramp to board the plane.

Which airport was it?

Savannah, GA airport is great to get thru. I leave home way less than three hours before flight and it takes me an hour to drive there. I still get there in plenty of time.

 

[Gatorade]

Once the Blue Laws went away, liquor laws became normal here in Texas.

I miss Beverage Barns. Pull in your pick-up truck, and helpful people put the keg in the back for you. The height of civilization.

I had to sign up for a "membership" at one bar in Tyler. It didn't cost me anything but they had to run my ID and I had to sign something before they'd serve me.

E2A - this was like maybe 6 months ago?

Smith County was a long-time dry county. Their liquor laws are weird. Not a state thing, though.

I remember vacationing in Western NC years ago in a dry county. We could not get a drink when we went out to dinner, but if we had brought our own bottle, we could drink as much as we wanted.

 

[Gally]

There is even a sign, a huge sign, that says "take turns merging at merge point" yet some refuse and get all prickly when we try and zipper merge. Zipper merge y'all!!

I remember the Cities being super into the zipper-merge. It's glorious, and yeah here in SoCal people get all bent out of shape when you try doing it.

This is inherently a problem with selfishness. People don't want to be behind so they don't to let people in. They don't understand the concept of the zipper and how that will actually help everyone. They are narrow minded and think I am not letting this A-hole that just blew past all those people waiting to jump the line to the front so it bogs everything down.

The only place I have ever seen the zipper work well is heading onto the base I work at. There are two lanes that merge into one that come from different directions. Everyone knows that the zipper works and everyone abides by it and it is glorious. It will never work in LA where a turn signal to merge means to speed up and not let the merger in. Selfish people.

 

[Gatorade]

There is even a sign, a huge sign, that says "take turns merging at merge point" yet some refuse and get all prickly when we try and zipper merge. Zipper merge y'all!!

I remember the Cities being super into the zipper-merge. It's glorious, and yeah here in SoCal people get all bent out of shape when you try doing it.

This is inherently a problem with selfishness. People don't want to be behind so they don't to let people in. They don't understand the concept of the zipper and how that will actually help everyone. They are narrow minded and think I am not letting this A-hole that just blew past all those people waiting to jump the line to the front so it bogs everything down.

The only place I have ever seen the zipper work well is heading onto the base I work at. There are two lanes that merge into one that come from different directions. Everyone knows that the zipper works and everyone abides by it and it is glorious. It will never work in LA where a turn signal to merge means to speed up and not let the merger in. Selfish people.

Military discipline works for so many things. Besides, you don't want to be the one to cut off a CO.

 

[TheBaylorKid]

There is even a sign, a huge sign, that says "take turns merging at merge point" yet some refuse and get all prickly when we try and zipper merge. Zipper merge y'all!!

I remember the Cities being super into the zipper-merge. It's glorious, and yeah here in SoCal people get all bent out of shape when you try doing it.

This is inherently a problem with selfishness. People don't want to be behind so they don't to let people in. They don't understand the concept of the zipper and how that will actually help everyone. They are narrow minded and think I am not letting this A-hole that just blew past all those people waiting to jump the line to the front so it bogs everything down.

The only place I have ever seen the zipper work well is heading onto the base I work at. There are two lanes that merge into one that come from different directions. Everyone knows that the zipper works and everyone abides by it and it is glorious. It will never work in LA where a turn signal to merge means to speed up and not let the merger in. Selfish people.

I always appreciate semi truck drivers enforcing merge points. They see all the cars ahead of them merged, so they straddles the lines encouraging those behind to start merging.

 

[Gally]

There is even a sign, a huge sign, that says "take turns merging at merge point" yet some refuse and get all prickly when we try and zipper merge. Zipper merge y'all!!

I remember the Cities being super into the zipper-merge. It's glorious, and yeah here in SoCal people get all bent out of shape when you try doing it.

This is inherently a problem with selfishness. People don't want to be behind so they don't to let people in. They don't understand the concept of the zipper and how that will actually help everyone. They are narrow minded and think I am not letting this A-hole that just blew past all those people waiting to jump the line to the front so it bogs everything down.

The only place I have ever seen the zipper work well is heading onto the base I work at. There are two lanes that merge into one that come from different directions. Everyone knows that the zipper works and everyone abides by it and it is glorious. It will never work in LA where a turn signal to merge means to speed up and not let the merger in. Selfish people.

I always appreciate semi truck drivers enforcing merge points. They see all the cars ahead of them merged, so they straddles the lines encouraging those behind to start merging.

But that isn't necessarily the best either. it does shift the merge point back a bit but it may make the lane that's ending underutilized. The point of the zipper working optimally is to fill up all available space and to zipper at the point the space is running out.

 

[DA RAIDERS]

I remember having to sign-up for a drink in Utah. Drove through there many times and you had to give information and a signature. Even in Park City, at a bar. For what, exactly? Was the idea that others could find out who the drinkers were because they were filling out some form? A veiled shaming thing? No clue how that designation was important or going to make any difference.

Assume that's no longer the case in Utah, or somebody in here would've brought it up already, yes?

Utah is all kinds of weird. You can't order a drink at a restaurant bar without ordering food. You have to become a 'member' (which is probably why you had to sign) of a place to order an adult drink. Beers are 3.2. Bizzaro world there.

So they STILL do the "member" thing??? That is nuts. What is the reasoning or purpose, exactly?

I think some places/cities got rid of the membership thing, but I'm fairly certain if you stroll into a - say Chili's or BWW - and sit at the bar, they won't serve you unless you order some fries or something.

It depends on the liquor license of the place. If it’s 21 and over, no food order needed. Otherwise, yes. It’s really weird.

At deer valley, I went to order a beer inside after skiing and the lady said I had to order food. She immediately said “the cookie is cheapest thing on the menu”. She’d obviously had to field the wtf look on my face a million times. So I got a beer, my kid got a cookie. Winning? But there’s a walk up window outside that I can get a beer without ordering any food. So weird. My kid isn’t as happy with no cookies anymore

Those fat cats down at Big Cookie are laughing while they make bank on you.

Deer valley gets its pound of flesh regardless. But I am happy to have found a way to avoid the cookie purchase.

 

[Instinctive]

There is even a sign, a huge sign, that says "take turns merging at merge point" yet some refuse and get all prickly when we try and zipper merge. Zipper merge y'all!!

I remember the Cities being super into the zipper-merge. It's glorious, and yeah here in SoCal people get all bent out of shape when you try doing it.

This is inherently a problem with selfishness. People don't want to be behind so they don't to let people in. They don't understand the concept of the zipper and how that will actually help everyone. They are narrow minded and think I am not letting this A-hole that just blew past all those people waiting to jump the line to the front so it bogs everything down.

The only place I have ever seen the zipper work well is heading onto the base I work at. There are two lanes that merge into one that come from different directions. Everyone knows that the zipper works and everyone abides by it and it is glorious. It will never work in LA where a turn signal to merge means to speed up and not let the merger in. Selfish people.

I always appreciate semi truck drivers enforcing merge points. They see all the cars ahead of them merged, so they straddles the lines encouraging those behind to start merging.

Whereas I hate these idiots and the fact that they are causing additional traffic to everyone behind them by not allowing the traffic flow to utilize the full road available to us as a society.

 

[Instinctive]

There is even a sign, a huge sign, that says "take turns merging at merge point" yet some refuse and get all prickly when we try and zipper merge. Zipper merge y'all!!

I remember the Cities being super into the zipper-merge. It's glorious, and yeah here in SoCal people get all bent out of shape when you try doing it.

This is inherently a problem with selfishness. People don't want to be behind so they don't to let people in. They don't understand the concept of the zipper and how that will actually help everyone. They are narrow minded and think I am not letting this A-hole that just blew past all those people waiting to jump the line to the front so it bogs everything down.

The only place I have ever seen the zipper work well is heading onto the base I work at. There are two lanes that merge into one that come from different directions. Everyone knows that the zipper works and everyone abides by it and it is glorious. It will never work in LA where a turn signal to merge means to speed up and not let the merger in. Selfish people.

I always appreciate semi truck drivers enforcing merge points. They see all the cars ahead of them merged, so they straddles the lines encouraging those behind to start merging.

But that isn't necessarily the best either. it does shift the merge point back a bit but it may make the lane that's ending underutilized. The point of the zipper working optimally is to fill up all available space and to zipper at the point the space is running out.

This guy gets it. #trafficengineering

 

[DA RAIDERS]

Speed humps and “tables” are popping up everywhere. I guess they’re cheaper, or more effective than police enforcing speed limits, but it can’t be good for one’s vehicle to hit a half dozen every. single. trip. I’ll also bet they require repair more frequently than regular roadway.

Loosely related, blue lights on private property should be illegal. I’m already struggling to find stretches of road to flout our country-low limits, so I shouldn’t need to factor in the possibility a blue glow is actually yard lighting.

See also blue uber signs in car windows Isn’t have blue or fed lights on/in a vehicle illegal?

 

[SWC]

There is even a sign, a huge sign, that says "take turns merging at merge point" yet some refuse and get all prickly when we try and zipper merge. Zipper merge y'all!!

I remember the Cities being super into the zipper-merge. It's glorious, and yeah here in SoCal people get all bent out of shape when you try doing it.

it used to be in wisconsin that a truck would sit in the ending lane and just stop everyone so you had to get in line but more and more i see people doing the zipper and its a good thing in my opinion take that to the older and wiser bank bromigos

 

[SWC]

I remember having to sign-up for a drink in Utah. Drove through there many times and you had to give information and a signature. Even in Park City, at a bar. For what, exactly? Was the idea that others could find out who the drinkers were because they were filling out some form? A veiled shaming thing? No clue how that designation was important or going to make any difference.

Assume that's no longer the case in Utah, or somebody in here would've brought it up already, yes?

Utah is all kinds of weird. You can't order a drink at a restaurant bar without ordering food. You have to become a 'member' (which is probably why you had to sign) of a place to order an adult drink. Beers are 3.2. Bizzaro world there.

So they STILL do the "member" thing??? That is nuts. What is the reasoning or purpose, exactly?

I think some places/cities got rid of the membership thing, but I'm fairly certain if you stroll into a - say Chili's or BWW - and sit at the bar, they won't serve you unless you order some fries or something.

It depends on the liquor license of the place. If it’s 21 and over, no food order needed. Otherwise, yes. It’s really weird.

At deer valley, I went to order a beer inside after skiing and the lady said I had to order food. She immediately said “the cookie is cheapest thing on the menu”. She’d obviously had to field the wtf look on my face a million times. So I got a beer, my kid got a cookie. Winning? But there’s a walk up window outside that I can get a beer without ordering any food. So weird. My kid isn’t as happy with no cookies anymore

I have a ton of empathy for restaurant workers in Utah who spend hours of their lives explaining the rules over and over again

I'll never forget the first time driving through Utah with my Dad and we pulled into some hotel and go to get a bite and a beer. The look on his face when she started explaining how to "join the club" and how it was members only, was one I never forgot. Hysterical. He legit thought she was F'ing with us and laughed it off. Then ordered a drink. She came back with forms and no drink. He then realized she wasn't kidding and that look was even better.

Next day we tried in another town to get a little quicker service by showing our Utah Diner's Club Alcoholic Cards first, but got denied. Had to fill out new forms.

He jokingly asked if it would help if we got them laminated. She wasn't sure, lol. So yeah, poor servers is right.

I almost got in a fight the first time I went to a bar in Utah. It was in park city 30 something years ago. Like your dad, I just thought the bartender was f’ing with me. We went 3 to 4 rounds of me asking for a drink and the bartender flippantly just saying nope/no. The situation was diffused by a guy on the other side of the bar saying, “I’ll sponsor them”. Meaning that a current “member” had to sponsor a noobie. We got the drink but couldn’t get another until we joined and paid a small fee. Sooooooo dumb

my buddy todd who is now gone and i went up and fished some extreme backroad trout streams on the north slope of the uintas and came back into salt lake city at the end of the trip and we went to a place that i think was called the beehive and i ordered a huge ipa and drank it and felt nothing like zippo it was strange i thought maybe its the altitude scanny boy that i am and then i ordered another one and told the waitress i was like iron man tonight and she laughed and i asked what was funny and she told me about the 3 point 2 near beer garbage we figured out that you could get real ipas by going to wyoming take that to the bank bromigos

 

[the moops]

I always appreciate semi truck drivers enforcing merge points. They see all the cars ahead of them merged, so they straddles the lines encouraging those behind to start merging.

The worst. They are making it so we. any properly merge. They should lose their licenses

 

[General Malaise]

I remember having to sign-up for a drink in Utah. Drove through there many times and you had to give information and a signature. Even in Park City, at a bar. For what, exactly? Was the idea that others could find out who the drinkers were because they were filling out some form? A veiled shaming thing? No clue how that designation was important or going to make any difference.

Assume that's no longer the case in Utah, or somebody in here would've brought it up already, yes?

Utah is all kinds of weird. You can't order a drink at a restaurant bar without ordering food. You have to become a 'member' (which is probably why you had to sign) of a place to order an adult drink. Beers are 3.2. Bizzaro world there.

So they STILL do the "member" thing??? That is nuts. What is the reasoning or purpose, exactly?

I think some places/cities got rid of the membership thing, but I'm fairly certain if you stroll into a - say Chili's or BWW - and sit at the bar, they won't serve you unless you order some fries or something.

It depends on the liquor license of the place. If it’s 21 and over, no food order needed. Otherwise, yes. It’s really weird.

At deer valley, I went to order a beer inside after skiing and the lady said I had to order food. She immediately said “the cookie is cheapest thing on the menu”. She’d obviously had to field the wtf look on my face a million times. So I got a beer, my kid got a cookie. Winning? But there’s a walk up window outside that I can get a beer without ordering any food. So weird. My kid isn’t as happy with no cookies anymore

I have a ton of empathy for restaurant workers in Utah who spend hours of their lives explaining the rules over and over again

I'll never forget the first time driving through Utah with my Dad and we pulled into some hotel and go to get a bite and a beer. The look on his face when she started explaining how to "join the club" and how it was members only, was one I never forgot. Hysterical. He legit thought she was F'ing with us and laughed it off. Then ordered a drink. She came back with forms and no drink. He then realized she wasn't kidding and that look was even better.

Next day we tried in another town to get a little quicker service by showing our Utah Diner's Club Alcoholic Cards first, but got denied. Had to fill out new forms.

He jokingly asked if it would help if we got them laminated. She wasn't sure, lol. So yeah, poor servers is right.

I almost got in a fight the first time I went to a bar in Utah. It was in park city 30 something years ago. Like your dad, I just thought the bartender was f’ing with me. We went 3 to 4 rounds of me asking for a drink and the bartender flippantly just saying nope/no. The situation was diffused by a guy on the other side of the bar saying, “I’ll sponsor them”. Meaning that a current “member” had to sponsor a noobie. We got the drink but couldn’t get another until we joined and paid a small fee. Sooooooo dumb

my buddy todd who is now gone and i went up and fished some extreme backroad trout streams on the north slope of the uintas and came back into salt lake city at the end of the trip and we went to a place that i think was called the beehive and i ordered a huge ipa and drank it and felt nothing like zippo it was strange i thought maybe its the altitude scanny boy that i am and then i ordered another one and told the waitress i was like iron man tonight and she laughed and i asked what was funny and she told me about the 3 point 2 near beer garbage we figured out that you could get real ipas by going to wyoming take that to the bank bromigos

Melvin Brewing in Wyoming makes a fantastic IPA even though I know you don't drink those anymore brohan but you can take this to the bank.

 

[DA RAIDERS]

I remember having to sign-up for a drink in Utah. Drove through there many times and you had to give information and a signature. Even in Park City, at a bar. For what, exactly? Was the idea that others could find out who the drinkers were because they were filling out some form? A veiled shaming thing? No clue how that designation was important or going to make any difference.

Assume that's no longer the case in Utah, or somebody in here would've brought it up already, yes?

Utah is all kinds of weird. You can't order a drink at a restaurant bar without ordering food. You have to become a 'member' (which is probably why you had to sign) of a place to order an adult drink. Beers are 3.2. Bizzaro world there.

So they STILL do the "member" thing??? That is nuts. What is the reasoning or purpose, exactly?

I think some places/cities got rid of the membership thing, but I'm fairly certain if you stroll into a - say Chili's or BWW - and sit at the bar, they won't serve you unless you order some fries or something.

It depends on the liquor license of the place. If it’s 21 and over, no food order needed. Otherwise, yes. It’s really weird.

At deer valley, I went to order a beer inside after skiing and the lady said I had to order food. She immediately said “the cookie is cheapest thing on the menu”. She’d obviously had to field the wtf look on my face a million times. So I got a beer, my kid got a cookie. Winning? But there’s a walk up window outside that I can get a beer without ordering any food. So weird. My kid isn’t as happy with no cookies anymore

I have a ton of empathy for restaurant workers in Utah who spend hours of their lives explaining the rules over and over again

I'll never forget the first time driving through Utah with my Dad and we pulled into some hotel and go to get a bite and a beer. The look on his face when she started explaining how to "join the club" and how it was members only, was one I never forgot. Hysterical. He legit thought she was F'ing with us and laughed it off. Then ordered a drink. She came back with forms and no drink. He then realized she wasn't kidding and that look was even better.

Next day we tried in another town to get a little quicker service by showing our Utah Diner's Club Alcoholic Cards first, but got denied. Had to fill out new forms.

He jokingly asked if it would help if we got them laminated. She wasn't sure, lol. So yeah, poor servers is right.

I almost got in a fight the first time I went to a bar in Utah. It was in park city 30 something years ago. Like your dad, I just thought the bartender was f’ing with me. We went 3 to 4 rounds of me asking for a drink and the bartender flippantly just saying nope/no. The situation was diffused by a guy on the other side of the bar saying, “I’ll sponsor them”. Meaning that a current “member” had to sponsor a noobie. We got the drink but couldn’t get another until we joined and paid a small fee. Sooooooo dumb

my buddy todd who is now gone and i went up and fished some extreme backroad trout streams on the north slope of the uintas and came back into salt lake city at the end of the trip and we went to a place that i think was called the beehive and i ordered a huge ipa and drank it and felt nothing like zippo it was strange i thought maybe its the altitude scanny boy that i am and then i ordered another one and told the waitress i was like iron man tonight and she laughed and i asked what was funny and she told me about the 3 point 2 near beer garbage we figured out that you could get real ipas by going to wyoming take that to the bank bromigos

Melvin Brewing in Wyoming makes a fantastic IPA even though I know you don't drink those anymore brohan but you can take this to the bank.

Fantastic beer. There used to be a Thai restaurant attached to a Melvin brewery in Jackson hole. Both brilliant.

 

[Terminalxylem]

Airports that tell you to be there 3 hours early for international flights but then don’t let you through security until a gate has been assigned an hour before the flight.

I think that the 3 hours is a TSA mandate.

It's mostly just CYA from the airline/airport in case something crazy happens and it takes forever to get through.

I've also only ever experienced the one hour before thing at the TINIEST of airports, like sub four gates and you walk up a stairway or ramp to board the plane.

Which airport was it?

Savannah, GA airport is great to get thru. I leave home way less than three hours before flight and it takes me an hour to drive there. I still get there in plenty of time.

So you drive an hour to use a small airport for your international flights?

 

[Terminalxylem]

There is even a sign, a huge sign, that says "take turns merging at merge point" yet some refuse and get all prickly when we try and zipper merge. Zipper merge y'all!!

I remember the Cities being super into the zipper-merge. It's glorious, and yeah here in SoCal people get all bent out of shape when you try doing it.

This is inherently a problem with selfishness. People don't want to be behind so they don't to let people in. They don't understand the concept of the zipper and how that will actually help everyone. They are narrow minded and think I am not letting this A-hole that just blew past all those people waiting to jump the line to the front so it bogs everything down.

The only place I have ever seen the zipper work well is heading onto the base I work at. There are two lanes that merge into one that come from different directions. Everyone knows that the zipper works and everyone abides by it and it is glorious. It will never work in LA where a turn signal to merge means to speed up and not let the merger in. Selfish people.

They work reasonably well in Hawai’i. I’d said zippering allowed 80-90+% of the time, depending on the island.

It’s a surprise when someone doesn’t let me in. Only thing more surprising is horn honking.

 

[ChiefD]

I solved the zippering problem by moving to northern wisconsin where its all two lane roads.

 

[Terminalxylem]

I solved the zippering problem by moving to northern wisconsin where it’s all two lane roads.

Don’t snow/ice solve the road problem for like 6 months a year? I thought it was only skis, snowmobiles, and sled dogs after November or so.

 

[shuke]

There is even a sign, a huge sign, that says "take turns merging at merge point" yet some refuse and get all prickly when we try and zipper merge. Zipper merge y'all!!

I remember the Cities being super into the zipper-merge. It's glorious, and yeah here in SoCal people get all bent out of shape when you try doing it.

This is inherently a problem with selfishness. People don't want to be behind so they don't to let people in. They don't understand the concept of the zipper and how that will actually help everyone. They are narrow minded and think I am not letting this A-hole that just blew past all those people waiting to jump the line to the front so it bogs everything down.

The only place I have ever seen the zipper work well is heading onto the base I work at. There are two lanes that merge into one that come from different directions. Everyone knows that the zipper works and everyone abides by it and it is glorious. It will never work in LA where a turn signal to merge means to speed up and not let the merger in. Selfish people.

I always appreciate semi truck drivers enforcing merge points. They see all the cars ahead of them merged, so they straddles the lines encouraging those behind to start merging.

The lane ends where it ends, not a half mile back where a trucker decided it should.

 

[Gatorade]

Airports that tell you to be there 3 hours early for international flights but then don’t let you through security until a gate has been assigned an hour before the flight.

I think that the 3 hours is a TSA mandate.

It's mostly just CYA from the airline/airport in case something crazy happens and it takes forever to get through.

I've also only ever experienced the one hour before thing at the TINIEST of airports, like sub four gates and you walk up a stairway or ramp to board the plane.

Which airport was it?

Savannah, GA airport is great to get thru. I leave home way less than three hours before flight and it takes me an hour to drive there. I still get there in plenty of time.

So you drive an hour to use a small airport for your international flights?

NO, I then must fly thru Charlotte, Miami or Atlanta. The option is to drive four hours to get to Charlotte, NC to get a direct flight.

 

[mr. furley]

I solved the zippering problem by moving to northern wisconsin where it’s all two lane roads.

Don’t snow/ice solve the road problem for like 6 months a year? I thought it was only skis, snowmobiles, and sled dogs after November or so.

interesting you say that because there are definitely times in the winter when lanes are only a memory and everyone is just kind of guessing where they should be driving

 

[Terminalxylem]

Airports that tell you to be there 3 hours early for international flights but then don’t let you through security until a gate has been assigned an hour before the flight.

I think that the 3 hours is a TSA mandate.

It's mostly just CYA from the airline/airport in case something crazy happens and it takes forever to get through.

I've also only ever experienced the one hour before thing at the TINIEST of airports, like sub four gates and you walk up a stairway or ramp to board the plane.

Which airport was it?

Savannah, GA airport is great to get thru. I leave home way less than three hours before flight and it takes me an hour to drive there. I still get there in plenty of time.

So you drive an hour to use a small airport for your international flights?

NO, I then must fly thru Charlotte, Miami or Atlanta. The option is to drive four hours to get to Charlotte, NC to get a direct flight.

I was just trying to triangulate where Savannah is one hour, but neither Atlanta nor Charlotte are 3 hours or less. Seems like you must be in S Georgia, but then I would think Jacksonville would be pretty close?

 

[belljr]

So what does a blue light have to do with driving at night? I don't get it

 

[Leroy Hoard]

So what does a blue light have to do with driving at night? I don't get it

Must be a Jewish thing.

 

[Terminalxylem]

So what does a blue light have to do with driving at night? I don't get it

Blue light usually = cop
Seeing a cop = slowing down
Slowing down for yard light = peeve

Roof racks with blue parts pose a similar problem, as does anyone driving a Crown Vic.

 

[belljr]

Huh .. our cops lights are RED.....

A little blue on some state vehicles and newer SUVs shrug
Half red half blue on the real new ones so seeing a blue light would not register

 

[Gatorade]

Airports that tell you to be there 3 hours early for international flights but then don’t let you through security until a gate has been assigned an hour before the flight.

I think that the 3 hours is a TSA mandate.

It's mostly just CYA from the airline/airport in case something crazy happens and it takes forever to get through.

I've also only ever experienced the one hour before thing at the TINIEST of airports, like sub four gates and you walk up a stairway or ramp to board the plane.

Which airport was it?

Savannah, GA airport is great to get thru. I leave home way less than three hours before flight and it takes me an hour to drive there. I still get there in plenty of time.

So you drive an hour to use a small airport for your international flights?

NO, I then must fly thru Charlotte, Miami or Atlanta. The option is to drive four hours to get to Charlotte, NC to get a direct flight.

I was just trying to triangulate where Savannah is one hour, but neither Atlanta nor Charlotte are 3 hours or less. Seems like you must be in S Georgia, but then I would think Jacksonville would be pretty close?

Hilton Head Island
We have our own airport, but I can rarely get the times, connections or price that I want.

 

[Terminalxylem]

Huh .. our cops lights are RED.....

A little blue on some state vehicles and newer SUVs shrug
Half red half blue on the real new ones so seeing a blue light would not register

Weird this isn’t standardized.

Blue lights are reserved for po-po here, though I may have seen red/blue combo as well. Fire dept and ambulance use red +/- white.