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Capella's 24-hour, VERY bigly OH MY GOD HOW DID WE GET HERE thread (4 Viewers)

David Dodds said:
Although I will get a ZILLION tinfoil hat replies, let me try and explain what I think just happened.

There is a part of the govt (theorizing that it includes NSA, FBI, Homeland, and CIA - basically the police force of things) that makes sure nothing gets to far out of whack.  It's existed in some form for a LONG time.  I believe when a politician gets too far out of line, this group outs these people (pedo, gay slur, insider trading, whatever dirt they have to force the situation closer to normal).  This group knows that some level of corruption will always exist.  It's considered normal for a country of our stature.

This group starts to worry though when the PEOPLE look like they want to revolt because of the corruption.  This happened on both sides of the aisle and has been building.  The Tea Party.  Occupy Wall Street. The 1%, etc. People feel disenfranchised that the "system" is not working for them.

The FBI hated the Clintons the first time they came to power. If you believe the FBI_Anon guy from what he was saying in July, the Clintons got all the dirt on everybody from the FBI the 1st week they took the office.  They wanted to know what people were compromised and how they could use that for influence.  When the Clinton left the White House, they had a lot of people that they held dirt over.  

They then did the unthinkable to the FBI.  They pardoned Marc Rich on the last day of office.  This was in your face pay to play.  Marc and his buddies would come up multiple times with large donations to finance Hillary's Senate run, etc.  The FBI continued to monitor the Clintons and allowed some level of corruption (like they do for most people).  They got worried though when HRC became the Sec of State and started brokering major deals with a who's who list of bad guys in the Middle East.  The Clinton were getting rich, but it was coming at a huge expense to the nation we all love.

As the FBI looked deeper into the Clinton Foundation, CGI, CHAI, etc they started seeing a very sinister agenda.  This secret group I talked about above determined she could not become our President.  But this was tricky, because Clinton, Bush, Obama all had participated in some of this evilness and simply arresting people would likely create a civil war.  Especially if Obama was indicted and impeached as he remains a very popular President.

Call it a Coup or perhaps WikiLeaks / FBI negotiated a peaceful surrender, but Clinton was not going to be allowed to win.  Again, if you believe the FBI_Anon guy, he said this group was working closely with Donald Trump. They fed him the talking points he would need to attempt to rally "some" of the people.  WikiLeaks also was arming the people showing how the DNC conspired against Bernie and the other GOP leaders.  It was a new level of evil for the FBI/secret group.  Elections were generally run without interference from the other side.  Then they went after each other and the best campaign won.  HRCs team chose both sides of this election.  They conspired for their side and also bought the media to build up Trump while tearing into every other GOP candidate.  Their market research showed they should be able to beat Trump, Cruz, and Carson.  Everyone else they needed to eliminate.

The truth of the matter is Donald was NEVER EVEN CLOSE to as bad as they were representing.  We know that from the WikiLeaks.  They had a file on him and Donald was actually pretty tame.  Every super rich guy is not 100% clean though so they built out what they thought would work to paint him as a bad guy.  He wants tougher border security  - Make that into he wants to deport everyone.  And unfortunately Donald is not very smart politically.  He got outclassed and took the bait at every turn lending to countless soundbites that we are all aware of.  I am not looking to sell the Donald as a great choice here.  He is not.  But he is honorable and does care about this country.  The FBI at least believes that.

We are going to wake up and people are going to be ANGRY, want answers, etc.  I am writing this because I think we probably avoided a civil war with this election.  Some of the "Swamp" needs drained.  If the pedo-ring really exists, it needs to go and the politicians and sickos involved in it arrested. 

Adding more for the tinfoil claims:

- There are talks about Justice Scalia in the WikiLeaks that hint that he was taken out.  Imagine that for a minute if true? I don't care how badly you want a liberal court, killing someone to change course is over the line.

- The WikiLeaks implicate HRCs team to other murders (Ron Brown, Vince Foster, and Seth Rich was hinted at by Assange)

- Massive arms deals (2X what the last Sec State did during the same time)

- $150B Iran deal double-cross for oil rights

- The right is correct on Benghazi 

and others.  Bottom line.  She was determined to be a liability.  You can choose to believe the people rose up to oust her or this is a setup to ensure she does not win.  Whatever makes you sleep at night.  The DOJ/WH and FBI have been at war.  Hopefully it settles peacefully.

Be safe everyone.
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We would have had a civil war if Clinton was elected? Ok then.

 
I have a ditch bag, a passport, a passport card (in a different place) and a passport for my kid (with her birth certificate in a different place).

We have a friend that lives out of the country.  At the first sign of bull####, we're going on "vacation."

I'm not cool with this tinpot dictator.

 
boots11234 said:
Where's Tim?  I'm worried about his mental health. 
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The morons that run this place picked the most unopportuned time to give him a time out. The only time we'd actually want a Tim post just so we know he is ok. If I'm running this site I ban him for a month prior and the let him have his day. Win, win. 

 
NutterButter said:
:lol: Who's gonna do that?  He's been doing it all his life as an ordinary businessman.  Who's going to stop him as POTUS?   
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Don't see it.  Whether he succeeds or not I think he gives this a real shot.  HRC was always the one more likely to leverage this for future personal gain.

 
tonydead said:
The morons that run this place picked the most unopportuned time to give him a time out. The only time we'd actually want a Tim post just so we know he is ok. If I'm running this site I ban him for a month prior and the let him have his day. Win, win. 
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hope he's gone forever. 

It's a new world.

 
Willie Neslon said:
I won't buy one because I won't be able to.  Markets about to crash. David and Joe gonna take a hit like everyone else.
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Short term the Market is going to dive.  That's Wall-street saying we told you so.  But they are part of the swamp that needs draining.  Their money was unduly influencing things.  Trump will put in normal people.  I expect a nose dive, but also a recovery. 

It will be a long 4 years, but the Democrats will oust the corrupt DNC heads and rebuild it.  The Dems with even a reasonable candidate should always be the favorite in an election.  The GOP is going to get stuff done as they own it all.  If it's the wrong stuff, they lose in the midterms and ten in 4 years.  If some of what Donald is talking about is right (better trade deals, smaller government, etc), the Dems might have a tough fight.  I think Trump will step away after 1 term.  Counter to what everyone thinks about the man, I am not sure he really wants to be the President.  He wants to eliminate the corruption, get better trade deals, and use what he knows in the business world to keep companies here.

I am not going to convince anyone he is going to be a great President.  He will likely be awful. But we could not afford to continue to escalate the corruption.  She was ready to go to war with Russia and China now.  She is not a steady hand either. 

 
Sand said:
Don't see it.  Whether he succeeds or not I think he gives this a real shot.  HRC was always the one more likely to leverage this for future personal gain.
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You talk like those two things are mutually exclusive.  He can still give this shot and benefit enormously financially.  

 
How many years have we had to hear about how a Hillary Clinton presidency was inevitable? That is now dead. Feels pretty good. 

 
David Dodds said:
Short term the Market is going to dive.  That's Wall-street saying we told you so.  But they are part of the swamp that needs draining.  Their money was unduly influencing things.  Trump will put in normal people.  I expect a nose dive, but also a recovery. 

It will be a long 4 years, but the Democrats will oust the corrupt DNC heads and rebuild it.  The Dems with even a reasonable candidate should always be the favorite in an election.  The GOP is going to get stuff done as they own it all.  If it's the wrong stuff, they lose in the midterms and ten in 4 years.  If some of what Donald is talking about is right (better trade deals, smaller government, etc), the Dems might have a tough fight.  I think Trump will step away after 1 term.  Counter to what everyone thinks about the man, I am not sure he really wants to be the President.  He wants to eliminate the corruption, get better trade deals, and use what he knows in the business world to keep companies here.

I am not going to convince anyone he is going to be a great President.  He will likely be awful. But we could not afford to continue to escalate the corruption.  She was ready to go to war with Russia and China now.  She is not a steady hand either. 
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How does the Nasdaq, and specifically amazon and google do?  Appreciate the rankings, finally. 

 
Henry Ford said:
I'd like to bring this back.  It's important.  I absolutely despise everything Trump stands for.  But he isn't Trump anymore.  He's the President.  And even if he doesn't consider that different, we do.  And will hold him to it and support him as expected and required.  

God Bless the United States of America.  
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He has a little work on his side to do. He won. With that he needs to cut out all the bull#### and act like the president.

If he comes out and acts like a little ##### well it's going to be pretty hard to get behind that.

Democrats will likely do what was done to them when Obama came in and not work with him but he has to figure it out. Good luck.

 
But the FBI does not want to indict Obama.  This election was about changing the power base to have a soft coup.  Had Hillary won, indicting her, arresting her cronies, etc would have been really hard to do.  Already people are saying Comey lost this election.  No.  The corrupt Hillary Clinton and her morally bankrupt team cost the Dems the election.  

 
NutterButter said:
You talk like those two things are mutually exclusive.  He can still give this shot and benefit enormously financially.  
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True.  I just don't see him reaching for that extra few hundred million while being worth billions.

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NBC just called Maine 3-1 for HRC.  I think that locks it.  Now dormie at 269.

 
No way the GOP loses in the midterms.   Its the dems that are defending a ton of purple states and the gop always gets better turnout during midterms.  Young people and minorities only care about presidential elections.   They'll get 60+ and that's when the good times begin.  

 
How about this:  Trump is going to sell us out to the Chinese and the Russians, essentially refinancing our debt to give them favorable trade deals with us, while destabilzing NATO.   Trump shorts the stock market, makes personal gains bankrupting our country and defaulting on our debt just like he's done with every business he's ever run.   By the time he gets out, we have $5/gallon gas, unaffordable health care, social security and medicaire are crashed, and interest rates are at a 20 year-high.

Not to mention the pogroms.

 
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Podesta coming out to tell people to go home. She can't get out of bed raping children apparently to do this herself.

 
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