Car Market going forward (9 Viewers)

[BassNBrew]

Ah...one of those lawsuits where the ambulance chasers badger a productive company into a settlement and if the shareholders spend hours documenting every stock trade purchase/sale by date they might get a check for $1.17 cents after the lawyer fees are paid.

I'm not sure I'd call my firm "ambulance chasers". We've settled roughly $10B in litigation claims for shareholders in the past 5 years and more recently we've settled over $2B in the past 12 months. Those type of cases take years to litigate.

$2B in the last months is on target with $10B in the last 5 years. I'm just having fun here, but it came off like things had spiked for you this trailing 12 months, when you highlighted "and more recently...".

What we really want to know is if there's a model to target with the used ones that were sold at lower prices?

Some cases are more than others. So we've had more cases in the past 2 years. But we've done larger cases in the past.

Here's a larger one for you....

Amazon has paused some data center lease commitments, Wells Fargo says​

Published Mon, Apr 21 20252:04 PM EDTUpdated Mon, Apr 21 20255:14 PM EDT
Jordan Novet@jordannovet
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Key Points

• Analysts at Wells Fargo wrote in a report on Monday that they heard over the weekend about Amazon pausing lease conversations with colocation partners.
• Earlier this month, Amazon CEO Andy Jassy said he did not see the company pulling back on constructing data centers.

 

[FarFromHome]

Closed today on our 2025 Rav4 XLE Premium. Super happy

Finance guy went hard for warranty. 6 grand. Went down to 5 grand. Looks good. Passed on it all.

Feedback on new car warranties?

 

[Nugget]

Closed today on our 2025 Rav4 XLE Premium. Super happy

Finance guy went hard for warranty. 6 grand. Went down to 5 grand. Looks good. Passed on it all.

Feedback on new car warranties?

Not at that price. I would consider manufacturer service contract but I would shop online for pricing first. Some dealers will sell online around $100 over cost. May make some sense then, just like any other insurance product.

 

[snellman]

Closed today on our 2025 Rav4 XLE Premium. Super happy

Finance guy went hard for warranty. 6 grand. Went down to 5 grand. Looks good. Passed on it all.

Feedback on new car warranties?

Not at that price. I would consider manufacturer service contract but I would shop online for pricing first. Some dealers will sell online around $100 over cost. May make some sense then, just like any other insurance product.

They are basically an insurance policy for your vehicle. Most people don't have the cash on hand for a major repair, so in that case they are worth it. Working in a dealership setting, I put an extended warranty on my vehicles when I purchase them because I know what the cost is of repairs. It doesn't take long over the life of a vehicle to eat up 6K worth of repairs.

You can probably find them cheaper online. However, there are 2 major things to look at. 1) make sure you know what the coverage is before you buy. Many contracts have different levels of coverage that of course are different prices. 2) check with a dealer or whoever you take your vehicle to for repair on how the warranty company is to work with. There are certain companies that I will not work with and I will tell the customer up front when the show me the contract when they bring their vehicle in. A big one that you see on TV a lot is car shield. An average phone call to them for a claim is 90 minutes. (I have way too much to do to sit on hold for 90 minutes). They also try to send parts or drive our prices down so far that there is no profit and limit what they will pay for labor. I want to help the customer, but I am also in the business to make a profit.

If you have any questions, let me know. I will try to answer to the best of my ability.

 

[Instinctive]

I've never paid nor needed an extended warranty.

The analogy to I surance is appropriate.

Here's the thing: they're in it to make money. The warranty typically makes them money. They wouldn't be selling it otherwise. If you're capable of self insuring I'm case you get very unlucky, you generally should. The expected value of the warranty is negative.

 

[fruity pebbles]

I wouldn’t get an extended warranty on a Toyota. That’s part of the point in buying one in the first place.

 

[FarFromHome]

Closed today on our 2025 Rav4 XLE Premium. Super happy

Finance guy went hard for warranty. 6 grand. Went down to 5 grand. Looks good. Passed on it all.

Feedback on new car warranties?

Not at that price. I would consider manufacturer service contract but I would shop online for pricing first. Some dealers will sell online around $100 over cost. May make some sense then, just like any other insurance product.

They are basically an insurance policy for your vehicle. Most people don't have the cash on hand for a major repair, so in that case they are worth it. Working in a dealership setting, I put an extended warranty on my vehicles when I purchase them because I know what the cost is of repairs. It doesn't take long over the life of a vehicle to eat up 6K worth of repairs.

You can probably find them cheaper online. However, there are 2 major things to look at. 1) make sure you know what the coverage is before you buy. Many contracts have different levels of coverage that of course are different prices. 2) check with a dealer or whoever you take your vehicle to for repair on how the warranty company is to work with. There are certain companies that I will not work with and I will tell the customer up front when the show me the contract when they bring their vehicle in. A big one that you see on TV a lot is car shield. An average phone call to them for a claim is 90 minutes. (I have way too much to do to sit on hold for 90 minutes). They also try to send parts or drive our prices down so far that there is no profit and limit what they will pay for labor. I want to help the customer, but I am also in the business to make a profit.

If you have any questions, let me know. I will try to answer to the best of my ability.

Awesome post buddy. Mahalo. In the end, we chose the brand new RAV4 with 5 miles on it for a reason. Its a kick @ss piece of machinery. They don't need anymore of my money. I have the 3 year 36 thousand mile warranty it comes with. I can wait awhile, shop around and still get those same warranties for a fraction of the price if I decide too. Just super glad this big purchase is over.

On a side note. The finance guy had this monster in desk, touch screen monitor for all the paperwork. Filled with short videos about the car and warranties. That was very impressive. It took all my Jedi strength to say, "Pass on everything." Ha ha

 

[Osaurus]

I love car salespeople telling potential buyers how reliable the cars they’re shilling are. Then the finance manager wants to sell you peace of mind to make their nut. Lol. Everyone gets paid I guess.

 

[culdeus]

I mean you get a warranty and total your car. Rip

 

[FarFromHome]

I love car salespeople telling potential buyers how reliable the cars they’re shilling are. Then the finance manager wants to sell you peace of mind to make their nut. Lol. Everyone gets paid I guess.

Bingo. It was quite hilarious. At one point the finance guy was like ""it's all about the cost to replace the electronics that are bought 3rd party "" My wife and I looked at each like wtf. It was comical. Also. I'm not a bad person. The guy looked like one of the guys in the movie Taken. The guy Liam got to say "good luck" at one point my wife texted me "good luck" I lost it. It clicked immediately what she meant. So hilarious.

 

[Payne]

I love car salespeople telling potential buyers how reliable the cars they’re shilling are. Then the finance manager wants to sell you peace of mind to make their nut. Lol. Everyone gets paid I guess.

Always laughed at this.

Saleperson: Great car, great reliability, better than brands x,y and z.

Finance guy: you're not going to want to pay to replace that LCD screen. Those are expensive.

 

[thecatch]

Closed today on our 2025 Rav4 XLE Premium. Super happy

Finance guy went hard for warranty. 6 grand. Went down to 5 grand. Looks good. Passed on it all.

Feedback on new car warranties?

Not at that price. I would consider manufacturer service contract but I would shop online for pricing first. Some dealers will sell online around $100 over cost. May make some sense then, just like any other insurance product.

Yep - I bought a warranty for my old BMW from a dealership across the country for about half what the place I bought the car from wanted. Also, that was possibly the best financial decision I ever made, but that had a lot to do with the fact that a BMW was involved.

 

[culdeus]

Closed today on our 2025 Rav4 XLE Premium. Super happy

Finance guy went hard for warranty. 6 grand. Went down to 5 grand. Looks good. Passed on it all.

Feedback on new car warranties?

Not at that price. I would consider manufacturer service contract but I would shop online for pricing first. Some dealers will sell online around $100 over cost. May make some sense then, just like any other insurance product.

Yep - I bought a warranty for my old BMW from a dealership across the country for about half what the place I bought the car from wanted. Also, that was possibly the best financial decision I ever made, but that had a lot to do with the fact that a BMW was involved.

Just the control arms that fail on 3 series are like 3500 now. I think they just design those to fail on purpose

 

[Hawks64]

I mean you get a warranty and total your car. Rip

You get it refunded. I had this happen with my kids' HR-V, although the extended warranty was ~3k. He totaled the car, and we got a check for the pro-rated amount.

We also had it happen with my wife's Evoque (also ~3k for the warranty) when we traded it in for a Velar, we got a check for the pro-rated amount. Easy Peasy.

 

[FarFromHome]

I mean you get a warranty and total your car. Rip

You get it refunded. I had this happen with my kids' HR-V, although the extended warranty was ~3k. He totaled the car, and we got a check for the pro-rated amount.

We also had it happen with my wife's Evoque (also ~3k for the warranty) when we traded it in for a Velar, we got a check for the pro-rated amount. Easy Peasy.

Toyota created this Gap coverage to address this. You just paid 40 grand for a brand new Toyota.. A week later you total it and the insurance company says it's worth 35 grand. This Gap covers the gap. Overkill to me really. I guess you could see the case for it for the first year until your amount owed reaches that value, but certain cars hold value immediately after purchasing. Pass

 

[Nugget]

Way simpler to just trade your cars in before the 3/36 expires. No worries about extended warranties, tires, brakes - just easier for everybody. Basically after your third tire rotation you should be ready for the next model.

 

[Hawks64]

I mean you get a warranty and total your car. Rip

You get it refunded. I had this happen with my kids' HR-V, although the extended warranty was ~3k. He totaled the car, and we got a check for the pro-rated amount.

We also had it happen with my wife's Evoque (also ~3k for the warranty) when we traded it in for a Velar, we got a check for the pro-rated amount. Easy Peasy.

Toyota created this Gap coverage to address this. You just paid 40 grand for a brand new Toyota.. A week later you total it and the insurance company says it's worth 35 grand. This Gap covers the gap. Overkill to me really. I guess you could see the case for it for the first year until your amount owed reaches that value, but certain cars hold value immediately after purchasing. Pass

That's not a Toyota thing, but a finance tool called Gap Insurance. I am speaking specifically about the Extended Warranty. Which we bought for both of the cars above and were about ~3k compared to the 6k you were quoted.

 

[BassNBrew]

I love car salespeople telling potential buyers how reliable the cars they’re shilling are. Then the finance manager wants to sell you peace of mind to make their nut. Lol. Everyone gets paid I guess.

I love car salespeople telling potential buyers how reliable the cars they’re shilling are. Then the finance manager wants to sell you peace of mind to make their nut. Lol. Everyone gets paid I guess.

Always laughed at this.

Saleperson: Great car, great reliability, better than brands x,y and z.

Finance guy: you're not going to want to pay to replace that LCD screen. Those are expensive.

I'd use that to pry another $250-$500 out of the sales guy. I'd walk out of the office without signing and go tell the sales guys the finance guy is telling me this car is a POS always breaking down with expensive repairs and that you need a reliable car.

 

[FarFromHome]

I love car salespeople telling potential buyers how reliable the cars they’re shilling are. Then the finance manager wants to sell you peace of mind to make their nut. Lol. Everyone gets paid I guess.

I love car salespeople telling potential buyers how reliable the cars they’re shilling are. Then the finance manager wants to sell you peace of mind to make their nut. Lol. Everyone gets paid I guess.

Always laughed at this.

Saleperson: Great car, great reliability, better than brands x,y and z.

Finance guy: you're not going to want to pay to replace that LCD screen. Those are expensive.

I'd use that to pry another $250-$500 out of the sales guy. I'd walk out of the office without signing and go tell the sales guys the finance guy is telling me this car is a POS always breaking down with expensive repairs and that you need a reliable car.

We talked about that during and after as an option. Get up and leave. Have him run to the sales guy screaming that he lost one. Ha ha In the end, we had been there nearly 5 hours and the Vietnamese prison camp exhaustion tactic was working. Ha ha

 

[Instinctive]

I love car salespeople telling potential buyers how reliable the cars they’re shilling are. Then the finance manager wants to sell you peace of mind to make their nut. Lol. Everyone gets paid I guess.

I love car salespeople telling potential buyers how reliable the cars they’re shilling are. Then the finance manager wants to sell you peace of mind to make their nut. Lol. Everyone gets paid I guess.

Always laughed at this.

Saleperson: Great car, great reliability, better than brands x,y and z.

Finance guy: you're not going to want to pay to replace that LCD screen. Those are expensive.

I'd use that to pry another $250-$500 out of the sales guy. I'd walk out of the office without signing and go tell the sales guys the finance guy is telling me this car is a POS always breaking down with expensive repairs and that you need a reliable car.

We talked about that during and after as an option. Get up and leave. Have him run to the sales guy screaming that he lost one. Ha ha In the end, we had been there nearly 5 hours and the Vietnamese prison camp exhaustion tactic was working. Ha ha

The time thing is crazy. When we went in, with the price already agreed and a very clear "I am going to pay cash today and I will not be buying anything else. If you bother me, I'll go pay $200 more to the other dealer who offered. Don't screw with me."

It still took forever. And they did respect it. We sat down with the finance guy and he started his pitch and I said "Do you have a credit card fee? If so, I have a check. If not, here's my card. We are buying the car for this much. Don't waste your time or mine with anything else."

So then we had to wait for them to thoroughly clean the car and remove window stickers anyway.......................something they usually do during the interminable financing discussions I guess.

 

[bcat01]

I love car salespeople telling potential buyers how reliable the cars they’re shilling are. Then the finance manager wants to sell you peace of mind to make their nut. Lol. Everyone gets paid I guess.

I love car salespeople telling potential buyers how reliable the cars they’re shilling are. Then the finance manager wants to sell you peace of mind to make their nut. Lol. Everyone gets paid I guess.

Always laughed at this.

Saleperson: Great car, great reliability, better than brands x,y and z.

Finance guy: you're not going to want to pay to replace that LCD screen. Those are expensive.

I'd use that to pry another $250-$500 out of the sales guy. I'd walk out of the office without signing and go tell the sales guys the finance guy is telling me this car is a POS always breaking down with expensive repairs and that you need a reliable car.

I will do this the next time I buy new. My wife will kill me, but it would be worth it to see their reactions.

 

[BassNBrew]

I love car salespeople telling potential buyers how reliable the cars they’re shilling are. Then the finance manager wants to sell you peace of mind to make their nut. Lol. Everyone gets paid I guess.

I love car salespeople telling potential buyers how reliable the cars they’re shilling are. Then the finance manager wants to sell you peace of mind to make their nut. Lol. Everyone gets paid I guess.

Always laughed at this.

Saleperson: Great car, great reliability, better than brands x,y and z.

Finance guy: you're not going to want to pay to replace that LCD screen. Those are expensive.

I'd use that to pry another $250-$500 out of the sales guy. I'd walk out of the office without signing and go tell the sales guys the finance guy is telling me this car is a POS always breaking down with expensive repairs and that you need a reliable car.

We talked about that during and after as an option. Get up and leave. Have him run to the sales guy screaming that he lost one. Ha ha In the end, we had been there nearly 5 hours and the Vietnamese prison camp exhaustion tactic was working. Ha ha

My last two experiences were at Mercedes and they have lattes (come laugh @General Malaise) and sandwiches plus wifi. I had set up camp at the salespersons desk, looked like a buffet. He had other customers coming in that were probably appalled at the pigsty I had made at his desk. I'm not sure what happened but their last counter was $600-$700 below my offer price that they had refused for a couple of hours plus an additional year on the certified warranty. Probably just wanted me to leave. Totally flipped the script on them.

As proud as I was for winning that one, I left with a "new" vehicle so I overpaid.

 

[Osaurus]

I love car salespeople telling potential buyers how reliable the cars they’re shilling are. Then the finance manager wants to sell you peace of mind to make their nut. Lol. Everyone gets paid I guess.

I love car salespeople telling potential buyers how reliable the cars they’re shilling are. Then the finance manager wants to sell you peace of mind to make their nut. Lol. Everyone gets paid I guess.

Always laughed at this.

Saleperson: Great car, great reliability, better than brands x,y and z.

Finance guy: you're not going to want to pay to replace that LCD screen. Those are expensive.

I'd use that to pry another $250-$500 out of the sales guy. I'd walk out of the office without signing and go tell the sales guys the finance guy is telling me this car is a POS always breaking down with expensive repairs and that you need a reliable car.

We talked about that during and after as an option. Get up and leave. Have him run to the sales guy screaming that he lost one. Ha ha In the end, we had been there nearly 5 hours and the Vietnamese prison camp exhaustion tactic was working. Ha ha

The time thing is crazy. When we went in, with the price already agreed and a very clear "I am going to pay cash today and I will not be buying anything else. If you bother me, I'll go pay $200 more to the other dealer who offered. Don't screw with me."

It still took forever. And they did respect it. We sat down with the finance guy and he started his pitch and I said "Do you have a credit card fee? If so, I have a check. If not, here's my card. We are buying the car for this much. Don't waste your time or mine with anything else."

So then we had to wait for them to thoroughly clean the car and remove window stickers anyway.......................something they usually do during the interminable financing discussions I guess.

I was in and out of a VW dealer in about an hour total having everything set in advance last year. Sounds like I found the unicorn salesperson/dealership

ETA: No Sign and Drive or anything like that going on at that time fwiw

 

[fruity pebbles]

I love car salespeople telling potential buyers how reliable the cars they’re shilling are. Then the finance manager wants to sell you peace of mind to make their nut. Lol. Everyone gets paid I guess.

I love car salespeople telling potential buyers how reliable the cars they’re shilling are. Then the finance manager wants to sell you peace of mind to make their nut. Lol. Everyone gets paid I guess.

Always laughed at this.

Saleperson: Great car, great reliability, better than brands x,y and z.

Finance guy: you're not going to want to pay to replace that LCD screen. Those are expensive.

I'd use that to pry another $250-$500 out of the sales guy. I'd walk out of the office without signing and go tell the sales guys the finance guy is telling me this car is a POS always breaking down with expensive repairs and that you need a reliable car.

We talked about that during and after as an option. Get up and leave. Have him run to the sales guy screaming that he lost one. Ha ha In the end, we had been there nearly 5 hours and the Vietnamese prison camp exhaustion tactic was working. Ha ha

The time thing is crazy. When we went in, with the price already agreed and a very clear "I am going to pay cash today and I will not be buying anything else. If you bother me, I'll go pay $200 more to the other dealer who offered. Don't screw with me."

It still took forever. And they did respect it. We sat down with the finance guy and he started his pitch and I said "Do you have a credit card fee? If so, I have a check. If not, here's my card. We are buying the car for this much. Don't waste your time or mine with anything else."

So then we had to wait for them to thoroughly clean the car and remove window stickers anyway.......................something they usually do during the interminable financing discussions I guess.

I was in and out of a VW dealer in about an hour total having everything set in advance last year. Sounds like I found the unicorn salesperson/dealership

ETA: No Sign and Drive or anything like that going on at that time fwiw

Did the same when I bought my Bolt. Told them upfront that I didn’t want any extras and they had the paperwork ready. Didn’t try and push a thing. In and out in under an hour.

 

[BassNBrew]

I love car salespeople telling potential buyers how reliable the cars they’re shilling are. Then the finance manager wants to sell you peace of mind to make their nut. Lol. Everyone gets paid I guess.

I love car salespeople telling potential buyers how reliable the cars they’re shilling are. Then the finance manager wants to sell you peace of mind to make their nut. Lol. Everyone gets paid I guess.

Always laughed at this.

Saleperson: Great car, great reliability, better than brands x,y and z.

Finance guy: you're not going to want to pay to replace that LCD screen. Those are expensive.

I'd use that to pry another $250-$500 out of the sales guy. I'd walk out of the office without signing and go tell the sales guys the finance guy is telling me this car is a POS always breaking down with expensive repairs and that you need a reliable car.

We talked about that during and after as an option. Get up and leave. Have him run to the sales guy screaming that he lost one. Ha ha In the end, we had been there nearly 5 hours and the Vietnamese prison camp exhaustion tactic was working. Ha ha

The time thing is crazy. When we went in, with the price already agreed and a very clear "I am going to pay cash today and I will not be buying anything else. If you bother me, I'll go pay $200 more to the other dealer who offered. Don't screw with me."

It still took forever. And they did respect it. We sat down with the finance guy and he started his pitch and I said "Do you have a credit card fee? If so, I have a check. If not, here's my card. We are buying the car for this much. Don't waste your time or mine with anything else."

So then we had to wait for them to thoroughly clean the car and remove window stickers anyway.......................something they usually do during the interminable financing discussions I guess.

I was in and out of a VW dealer in about an hour total having everything set in advance last year. Sounds like I found the unicorn salesperson/dealership

ETA: No Sign and Drive or anything like that going on at that time fwiw

Did the same when I bought my Bolt. Told them upfront that I didn’t want any extras and they had the paperwork ready. Didn’t try and push a thing. In and out in under an hour.

That's not even enough time to eat lunch.

 

[fruity pebbles]

I love car salespeople telling potential buyers how reliable the cars they’re shilling are. Then the finance manager wants to sell you peace of mind to make their nut. Lol. Everyone gets paid I guess.

I love car salespeople telling potential buyers how reliable the cars they’re shilling are. Then the finance manager wants to sell you peace of mind to make their nut. Lol. Everyone gets paid I guess.

Always laughed at this.

Saleperson: Great car, great reliability, better than brands x,y and z.

Finance guy: you're not going to want to pay to replace that LCD screen. Those are expensive.

I'd use that to pry another $250-$500 out of the sales guy. I'd walk out of the office without signing and go tell the sales guys the finance guy is telling me this car is a POS always breaking down with expensive repairs and that you need a reliable car.

We talked about that during and after as an option. Get up and leave. Have him run to the sales guy screaming that he lost one. Ha ha In the end, we had been there nearly 5 hours and the Vietnamese prison camp exhaustion tactic was working. Ha ha

The time thing is crazy. When we went in, with the price already agreed and a very clear "I am going to pay cash today and I will not be buying anything else. If you bother me, I'll go pay $200 more to the other dealer who offered. Don't screw with me."

It still took forever. And they did respect it. We sat down with the finance guy and he started his pitch and I said "Do you have a credit card fee? If so, I have a check. If not, here's my card. We are buying the car for this much. Don't waste your time or mine with anything else."

So then we had to wait for them to thoroughly clean the car and remove window stickers anyway.......................something they usually do during the interminable financing discussions I guess.

I was in and out of a VW dealer in about an hour total having everything set in advance last year. Sounds like I found the unicorn salesperson/dealership

ETA: No Sign and Drive or anything like that going on at that time fwiw

Did the same when I bought my Bolt. Told them upfront that I didn’t want any extras and they had the paperwork ready. Didn’t try and push a thing. In and out in under an hour.

That's not even enough time to eat lunch.

You should start showing up every day at lunch time.

 

[BassNBrew]

I love car salespeople telling potential buyers how reliable the cars they’re shilling are. Then the finance manager wants to sell you peace of mind to make their nut. Lol. Everyone gets paid I guess.

I love car salespeople telling potential buyers how reliable the cars they’re shilling are. Then the finance manager wants to sell you peace of mind to make their nut. Lol. Everyone gets paid I guess.

Always laughed at this.

Saleperson: Great car, great reliability, better than brands x,y and z.

Finance guy: you're not going to want to pay to replace that LCD screen. Those are expensive.

I'd use that to pry another $250-$500 out of the sales guy. I'd walk out of the office without signing and go tell the sales guys the finance guy is telling me this car is a POS always breaking down with expensive repairs and that you need a reliable car.

We talked about that during and after as an option. Get up and leave. Have him run to the sales guy screaming that he lost one. Ha ha In the end, we had been there nearly 5 hours and the Vietnamese prison camp exhaustion tactic was working. Ha ha

The time thing is crazy. When we went in, with the price already agreed and a very clear "I am going to pay cash today and I will not be buying anything else. If you bother me, I'll go pay $200 more to the other dealer who offered. Don't screw with me."

It still took forever. And they did respect it. We sat down with the finance guy and he started his pitch and I said "Do you have a credit card fee? If so, I have a check. If not, here's my card. We are buying the car for this much. Don't waste your time or mine with anything else."

So then we had to wait for them to thoroughly clean the car and remove window stickers anyway.......................something they usually do during the interminable financing discussions I guess.

I was in and out of a VW dealer in about an hour total having everything set in advance last year. Sounds like I found the unicorn salesperson/dealership

ETA: No Sign and Drive or anything like that going on at that time fwiw

Did the same when I bought my Bolt. Told them upfront that I didn’t want any extras and they had the paperwork ready. Didn’t try and push a thing. In and out in under an hour.

That's not even enough time to eat lunch.

You should start showing up every day at lunch time.

I actually did that one day I was out inspecting properties and passed by a dealership.

 

[DA RAIDERS]

.99 financing still available on Honda CpO

 

[steelerfan1]

Spent 8 hours today looking at the crosstrek, cx30, and hrv. Ended up going with crosstrek and thought I got a fair deal. I politely declined all of the warranty stuff. They didn’t press too bad, but as someone said, the computer board is pretty darn cool.

 

[FarFromHome]

Spent 8 hours today looking at the crosstrek, cx30, and hrv. Ended up going with crosstrek and thought I got a fair deal. I politely declined all of the warranty stuff. They didn’t press too bad, but as someone said, the computer board is pretty darn cool.

Spent a lot of time with both vehicles. In the end it comes down to individual need. For us, we needed something a little bigger than the Crosstrek. The car itself was super nice. I really liked it. Looked sharp. Inside was sharp. Rated well. Just a solid car. Congrats on your new purchase.

 

[steelerfan1]

Thanks! This will be my first car payment in about 20 years. Not happy about it, but the 2012 Kia I was driving was an awesome car and wouldn’t have even been looking except was involved in accident and it is getting totaled. With 180000 miles though this was probably a good thing to get another vehicle. First time Subaru owner now! Is it mandatory that I get a feel the Bern bumpersticker? Will I get it from the dealership when I pick it up?

 

[FarFromHome]

Is it mandatory that I get a feel the Bern bumpersticker?

Yes. It goes on the bottom left corner of the bumper. The save the planet one goes on the right corner. Ha ha

 

[the moops]

Is it mandatory that I get a feel the Bern bumpersticker?

Yes. It goes on the bottom left corner of the bumper. The save the planet one goes on the right corner. Ha ha

I don't think the dealer gives it to you though. I think it comes after your first Lilith Fair show

 

[Orange&Blue]

new vehicle inventroy is dropping

Inventroy is going to start to dry up at Toyota stores first, I'd guess Hyundai/Kia would be next followed by Honda. Couple luxury OEMs have stopped shipping.

April will be a fantastic sales month. May is a coin flip. June will see higher pricing and some models may not be available.

Mazda pausing CX-50 production isn't a good sign.

ugh....i was looking at a used one for next year to replace my 2006 accord.

 

[Orange&Blue]

Well. Just got done test driving the 2025 Subaru Crosstrek Limited. Cross that off the list. It was cute. Just felt more like a car for my 18 year old daughter not my 50 year old wife. Imo

What I liked: Sporty. Handled the road well. Maneuverable. Crazy fancy touch screen. Lots of cool stuff in the cab. Very modern inside and pretty sharp on the outside

What I didn't like: ZERO giddy up. Was just shocked at this 2.5 liters lack of zip. Just too small. Felt tight inside. Although it was nice and filled with cool features on the inside it just felt so tight I don't think we ever would of settled into it.

Onward

My Forrester is a 2016/2017 XT Touring and they only put the WRX engine in them for 2 years, I scooped one up
3 different transmission speeds, Shark mode with paddle shifters off the line at a red light, very few can keep up...just don't turn the car in any direction, pure straight line speed.

Crosstrek is a slow car but very practical for a lot of folks, agree with you that it does not have a lot of pick up in it

got a 2016 forrester for my 16 year old son. he loves it.

 

[The Z Machine]

Way simpler to just trade your cars in before the 3/36 expires. No worries about extended warranties, tires, brakes - just easier for everybody. Basically after your third tire rotation you should be ready for the next model.

Simple, but expensive.

 

[FarFromHome]

Well. Just got done test driving the 2025 Subaru Crosstrek Limited. Cross that off the list. It was cute. Just felt more like a car for my 18 year old daughter not my 50 year old wife. Imo

What I liked: Sporty. Handled the road well. Maneuverable. Crazy fancy touch screen. Lots of cool stuff in the cab. Very modern inside and pretty sharp on the outside

What I didn't like: ZERO giddy up. Was just shocked at this 2.5 liters lack of zip. Just too small. Felt tight inside. Although it was nice and filled with cool features on the inside it just felt so tight I don't think we ever would of settled into it.

Onward

My Forrester is a 2016/2017 XT Touring and they only put the WRX engine in them for 2 years, I scooped one up
3 different transmission speeds, Shark mode with paddle shifters off the line at a red light, very few can keep up...just don't turn the car in any direction, pure straight line speed.

Crosstrek is a slow car but very practical for a lot of folks, agree with you that it does not have a lot of pick up in it

got a 2016 forrester for my 16 year old son. he loves it.

What a perfect first car.

 

[steelerfan1]

Closed today on our 2025 Rav4 XLE Premium. Super happy

Finance guy went hard for warranty. 6 grand. Went down to 5 grand. Looks good. Passed on it all.

Feedback on new car warranties?

Not at that price. I would consider manufacturer service contract but I would shop online for pricing first. Some dealers will sell online around $100 over cost. May make some sense then, just like any other insurance product.

They are basically an insurance policy for your vehicle. Most people don't have the cash on hand for a major repair, so in that case they are worth it. Working in a dealership setting, I put an extended warranty on my vehicles when I purchase them because I know what the cost is of repairs. It doesn't take long over the life of a vehicle to eat up 6K worth of repairs.

You can probably find them cheaper online. However, there are 2 major things to look at. 1) make sure you know what the coverage is before you buy. Many contracts have different levels of coverage that of course are different prices. 2) check with a dealer or whoever you take your vehicle to for repair on how the warranty company is to work with. There are certain companies that I will not work with and I will tell the customer up front when the show me the contract when they bring their vehicle in. A big one that you see on TV a lot is car shield. An average phone call to them for a claim is 90 minutes. (I have way too much to do to sit on hold for 90 minutes). They also try to send parts or drive our prices down so far that there is no profit and limit what they will pay for labor. I want to help the customer, but I am also in the business to make a profit.

If you have any questions, let me know. I will try to answer to the best of my ability.

Awesome post buddy. Mahalo. In the end, we chose the brand new RAV4 with 5 miles on it for a reason. Its a kick @ss piece of machinery. They don't need anymore of my money. I have the 3 year 36 thousand mile warranty it comes with. I can wait awhile, shop around and still get those same warranties for a fraction of the price if I decide too. Just super glad this big purchase is over.

On a side note. The finance guy had this monster in desk, touch screen monitor for all the paperwork. Filled with short videos about the car and warranties. That was very impressive. It took all my Jedi strength to say, "Pass on everything." Ha ha

Congrats on your new purchase as well! I had to rule the rav out as I couldn’t go over 30k. Would have been one for me for sure though. I saw you mentioned no pep with the Crosstrek. My wife has a 4 runner and I didn’t notice a big difference from that. Now I was expecting more zip from the cx30, but didn’t feel much different than Crosstrek, but it wasn’t the turbo version either.