Car Plows Through Crowd Engaged in Zombie Walk--Who's Wrong? (2 Viewers)

[igbomb]

I voted Zombies fault...Basically, I'm against anything that blocks traffic. If you're going to block traffic, you need a police escort and/or those big saw horse things to close off the road. You can't just decide you don't have to obey crosswalk lights because there's a bunch of you.

Further, if someone thinks they can start banging on someone's car, and even worse try to gain entry to it and expect the occupants to remain calm and not gun it, they're nuts. Even if the car driver started it by honking. You don't try and open someone's car door. If someone tried to get into my car and my kid was in there, I'd do the exact same thing. I'm getting away from the danger, and worrying about who I ran over later.

Seriously once they opened the door I'm gunning it

Someone could argue they opened the door because it was clear this guy was going to drive through the crowd and they were attempting to take the keys out of the car.

Or assault him. Either way. Grab his kids. Whatever.

But this guy is "deaf." This guy couldn't possibly say he heard someone say, "I'm going to kick your ###..etc" For all we know people were desperately trying to verbally tell him to wait until they could clear the road and this guy kept on moving forward because he was in a hurry. Their last resort was to pull the keys out before he could run over innocent people.

Did you watch the video? Do you really think the buttholes sitting on the hood or his car or hitting his windows were asking him to kindly wait one moment so they could ask the rest of the crowd to kindly clear a lane?

 

[igbomb]

Seriously, inching through very slowly (maybe without the honking) is a perfectly appropriate way to handle a situation like this and does not warrant people jumping on his hood and trying to get in his car. I do it all the time at the end of football games, mostly because Candlestick is a ####### terror with poor/no traffic control. Nobody has ever tried to get into my car or anything, and I'm NOT going to just sit there like an idiot waiting for 70,000 other people to cross, nor should I have to.

Of course. You're in a car. You, singularly, are so much more important than the 70000 people also trying to get home.

If only there were places for people to stand around without having to worry about getting hit by a car.

Ya because people leaving a sporting event never have to cross streets to get to their cars. They leave the stadium, walk on the sidewalk, never cross a street, and BOOM they've reached their vehicles.

So as I understand it, you wait until every single person reaches their car before you pull out of your parking spot at a sporting event. I got that right? Because you, singularly, in your car, are not as important as those 70,000 people also trying to get home.

Ya that's exactly what I said. You're not the brightest guy here buddy.

You're a real pleasant individual, aren't you? Spend a lot of time standing in the middle of the street impeding traffic, do you?

 

[Joe T]

I smell some stink bait in this thread. It is overpowering.

 

[spOOfy]

Seriously, inching through very slowly (maybe without the honking) is a perfectly appropriate way to handle a situation like this and does not warrant people jumping on his hood and trying to get in his car. I do it all the time at the end of football games, mostly because Candlestick is a ####### terror with poor/no traffic control. Nobody has ever tried to get into my car or anything, and I'm NOT going to just sit there like an idiot waiting for 70,000 other people to cross, nor should I have to.

Of course. You're in a car. You, singularly, are so much more important than the 70000 people also trying to get home.

If only there were places for people to stand around without having to worry about getting hit by a car.

Ya because people leaving a sporting event never have to cross streets to get to their cars. They leave the stadium, walk on the sidewalk, never cross a street, and BOOM they've reached their vehicles.

So as I understand it, you wait until every single person reaches their car before you pull out of your parking spot at a sporting event. I got that right? Because you, singularly, in your car, are not as important as those 70,000 people also trying to get home.

Ya that's exactly what I said. You're not the brightest guy here buddy.

lol. thanks. It got the point across. That your fishing attempt is extremely lame. Happily, I'm just bright enough to find the ignore controls now. Happy fishing turd.

 

[HughHoney]

You're still not that bright.

 

[dozer]

I smell some stink bait in this thread. It is overpowering.

It's like a dumpster at Stuckeys in July.

 

[Sabertooth]

So he's just supposed to sit there while these people commit crimes to his property? Just let them assault his family? Maybe turn HIM into a zombie? #### that ####. Game over man. Sucks to be you.

you should sign that on a card to the 64 year old woman who is in the hospital in serious condition.

the one dumb enough not to get out of the way in a gradually escalating situation?

No, I mean the elderly lady with the broken arm who was hit by the car.

I think you guys might be using different adjectives to describe the same person, thus the confusion. Classic mistake.

 

[Ned]

The driver of the car snapped this pic just before stepping on the gas.

Would smash.

 

[Fat Nick]

Glad to see this thread has taken a turn for the worse overnight. <_<

 

[Fennis]

Glad to see this thread has taken a turn for the worse overnight. <_<

I hate it when these threads crash and burn.

 

[Sabertooth]

It's like a mob of idiots in here. Just ambling forward without using their mushy brains.

 

[HughHoney]

Some of you think I'm fishing but take a minute to realize that you're siding with the guy who ran over an innocent woman during a confrontation he started. And yes inching his car through the crowd was him initiating the confrontation.

 

[butcher boy]

Some of you think I'm fishing but take a minute to realize that you're siding with the guy who ran over an innocent woman during a confrontation he started. And yes inching his car through the crowd was him initiating the confrontation.

X

 

[Fennis]

5th UPDATE, Monday 12:30 PM: Lt. Marshall White, who is in charge of special events for the San Diego Police Department, has shed new light on Saturday’s incident, saying that while there were people dressed as zombies in the intersection where the woman was hit, they were not part of the initial group of ZombieWalkers, which were about four to six blocks ahead of that intersection at the time. The Walk has gone on for seven years previously without incident. This was the 8th year.

The October ZombieWalk that was to take place in the same place in San Diego is now cancelled, according to the group’s FB page, and Lt. White said the organizers told him that they would not be holding a ZombieWalk next year at Comic-Con but would plan a different event instead. That has not yet been addressed on their FB page, and we are awaiting a confirmation from the organizers now, but it appears that no official decision will be made until the investigation is completed. A 64-year-old woman was seriously injured in the incident as a deaf man with his family (also all deaf), drove forward, hitting the woman as they tried to drive through the congested intersection.

Deadline was told by ZombieWalk’s FB page administrator: “No ZombieWalkers were directly involved in the incident, except to help her. We are not making any statements or decisions until the investigation is complete.”

ZombieWalk organizers did not have a permit, but according to White, they didn’t need one because it was a small group that was about one block long and they obeyed traffic signals. Those instructions also were given to the crowd by organizers before the walkers left the park. According to the ZombieWalk FB page, 849 people had RSVP’d; the organizers also posted in advance safety guidelines for the walk, which included warnings “do not block foot or auto traffic.” 849 people is quite a crowd for an intersection, but White said the group wasn’t that large. “I don’t believe that there were that many people dressed as zombies as part of the walk. That’s my observation.”

He added: “I did hear an organizer on the bullhorn saying that everyone was to obey traffic laws and listen to all instructions from police. So that particular intersection at the time of the incident had people dressed as zombies, but they were not part of that walk. It was just on the path where they walked. It may have been part of the residual crowd.”

Therefore, there were no police officers present at that intersection, which was regulated by stop signs. “On any given weekend, there are accidents because of congestion,” White said. “We try to do the best we can to make the city safe. This just happened to occur during Comic-Con at a congested intersection, but it does occur throughout the year.”

For the ZombieWalk, in particular, the SDPD made sure that motorcycle cops were ahead of the walk itself to ensure that walkers had clearance before they arrived. “With events that take place, whether it’s a bicycle ride or other event, they give us the path of the event so we can shoot ahead of where they are going [to] make it as safe as possible for everyone involved and that was the case during this one,” White said.

Although his department is not charged with investigating this incident – that’s being done by the Traffic Division – White emphasized that “the pedestrians that were crossing the street legally have the right of way. For vehicle code and common sense, you cannot use a car to move people out of the way. Never ever can you use a deadly weapon to make a path across a crowd of people. When you are in a busy congested area, you must wait. I do not want to condone people’s impatience in justifying a car to go through a crowd of people.”

Whether marchers need a permit is decided on a case-by-case basis, White said. For instance, for larger crowds — protests and such — when the group is expected to be very large and wouldn’t be able to fit on width of the sidewalk and the current conditions at that point in time, they would have to obtain a permit. In other words, common sense would prevail.

 

[butcher boy]

Why cant the zombies walk on the sidewalk? Why is that so difficult?

 

[HughHoney]

5th UPDATE, Monday 12:30 PM: Lt. Marshall White, who is in charge of special events for the San Diego Police Department, has shed new light on Saturdays incident, saying that while there were people dressed as zombies in the intersection where the woman was hit, they were not part of the initial group of ZombieWalkers, which were about four to six blocks ahead of that intersection at the time. The Walk has gone on for seven years previously without incident. This was the 8th year.

The October ZombieWalk that was to take place in the same place in San Diego is now cancelled, according to the groups FB page, and Lt. White said the organizers told him that they would not be holding a ZombieWalk next year at Comic-Con but would plan a different event instead. That has not yet been addressed on their FB page, and we are awaiting a confirmation from the organizers now, but it appears that no official decision will be made until the investigation is completed. A 64-year-old woman was seriously injured in the incident as a deaf man with his family (also all deaf), drove forward, hitting the woman as they tried to drive through the congested intersection.

Deadline was told by ZombieWalks FB page administrator: No ZombieWalkers were directly involved in the incident, except to help her. We are not making any statements or decisions until the investigation is complete.

ZombieWalk organizers did not have a permit, but according to White, they didnt need one because it was a small group that was about one block long and they obeyed traffic signals. Those instructions also were given to the crowd by organizers before the walkers left the park. According to the ZombieWalk FB page, 849 people had RSVPd; the organizers also posted in advance safety guidelines for the walk, which included warnings do not block foot or auto traffic. 849 people is quite a crowd for an intersection, but White said the group wasnt that large. I dont believe that there were that many people dressed as zombies as part of the walk. Thats my observation.

He added: I did hear an organizer on the bullhorn saying that everyone was to obey traffic laws and listen to all instructions from police. So that particular intersection at the time of the incident had people dressed as zombies, but they were not part of that walk. It was just on the path where they walked. It may have been part of the residual crowd.

Therefore, there were no police officers present at that intersection, which was regulated by stop signs. On any given weekend, there are accidents because of congestion, White said. We try to do the best we can to make the city safe. This just happened to occur during Comic-Con at a congested intersection, but it does occur throughout the year.

For the ZombieWalk, in particular, the SDPD made sure that motorcycle cops were ahead of the walk itself to ensure that walkers had clearance before they arrived. With events that take place, whether its a bicycle ride or other event, they give us the path of the event so we can shoot ahead of where they are going [to] make it as safe as possible for everyone involved and that was the case during this one, White said.

Although his department is not charged with investigating this incident thats being done by the Traffic Division White emphasized that the pedestrians that were crossing the street legally have the right of way. For vehicle code and common sense, you cannot use a car to move people out of the way. Never ever can you use a deadly weapon to make a path across a crowd of people. When you are in a busy congested area, you must wait. I do not want to condone peoples impatience in justifying a car to go through a crowd of people.

Whether marchers need a permit is decided on a case-by-case basis, White said. For instance, for larger crowds protests and such when the group is expected to be very large and wouldnt be able to fit on width of the sidewalk and the current conditions at that point in time, they would have to obtain a permit. In other words, common sense would prevail.

Bump

 

[parasaurolophus]

5th UPDATE, Monday 12:30 PM: Lt. Marshall White, who is in charge of special events for the San Diego Police Department, has shed new light on Saturdays incident, saying that while there were people dressed as zombies in the intersection where the woman was hit, they were not part of the initial group of ZombieWalkers, which were about four to six blocks ahead of that intersection at the time. The Walk has gone on for seven years previously without incident. This was the 8th year.

The October ZombieWalk that was to take place in the same place in San Diego is now cancelled, according to the groups FB page, and Lt. White said the organizers told him that they would not be holding a ZombieWalk next year at Comic-Con but would plan a different event instead. That has not yet been addressed on their FB page, and we are awaiting a confirmation from the organizers now, but it appears that no official decision will be made until the investigation is completed. A 64-year-old woman was seriously injured in the incident as a deaf man with his family (also all deaf), drove forward, hitting the woman as they tried to drive through the congested intersection.

Deadline was told by ZombieWalks FB page administrator: No ZombieWalkers were directly involved in the incident, except to help her. We are not making any statements or decisions until the investigation is complete.

ZombieWalk organizers did not have a permit, but according to White, they didnt need one because it was a small group that was about one block long and they obeyed traffic signals. Those instructions also were given to the crowd by organizers before the walkers left the park. According to the ZombieWalk FB page, 849 people had RSVPd; the organizers also posted in advance safety guidelines for the walk, which included warnings do not block foot or auto traffic. 849 people is quite a crowd for an intersection, but White said the group wasnt that large. I dont believe that there were that many people dressed as zombies as part of the walk. Thats my observation.

He added: I did hear an organizer on the bullhorn saying that everyone was to obey traffic laws and listen to all instructions from police. So that particular intersection at the time of the incident had people dressed as zombies, but they were not part of that walk. It was just on the path where they walked. It may have been part of the residual crowd.

Therefore, there were no police officers present at that intersection, which was regulated by stop signs. On any given weekend, there are accidents because of congestion, White said. We try to do the best we can to make the city safe. This just happened to occur during Comic-Con at a congested intersection, but it does occur throughout the year.

For the ZombieWalk, in particular, the SDPD made sure that motorcycle cops were ahead of the walk itself to ensure that walkers had clearance before they arrived. With events that take place, whether its a bicycle ride or other event, they give us the path of the event so we can shoot ahead of where they are going [to] make it as safe as possible for everyone involved and that was the case during this one, White said.

Although his department is not charged with investigating this incident thats being done by the Traffic Division White emphasized that the pedestrians that were crossing the street legally have the right of way. For vehicle code and common sense, you cannot use a car to move people out of the way. Never ever can you use a deadly weapon to make a path across a crowd of people. When you are in a busy congested area, you must wait. I do not want to condone peoples impatience in justifying a car to go through a crowd of people.

Whether marchers need a permit is decided on a case-by-case basis, White said. For instance, for larger crowds protests and such when the group is expected to be very large and wouldnt be able to fit on width of the sidewalk and the current conditions at that point in time, they would have to obtain a permit. In other words, common sense would prevail.

Bump

monumental that a police officer would make a statement like that. I am shocked, shocked I tell you. I really expected that the police would come out and say it was ok to drive through a crowd of morons.

 

[AhrnCityPahnder]

The driver of the car snapped this pic just before stepping on the gas.

Would smash.

1,3,2, upper arm hole, forearm gash

 

[Fat Nick]

5th UPDATE, Monday 12:30 PM:

Although his department is not charged with investigating this incident – that’s being done by the Traffic Division – White emphasized that “the pedestrians that were crossing the street legally have the right of way. For vehicle code and common sense, you cannot use a car to move people out of the way. Never ever can you use a deadly weapon to make a path across a crowd of people. When you are in a busy congested area, you must wait. I do not want to condone people’s impatience in justifying a car to go through a crowd of people.”

So...serious question...In my town (and many others) there are signs everywhere that say "Yield to Pedestrians," or "STOP for Pedestrians in crosswalk." With these signs, is there a reasonable obligation that pedestrians cross the road expeditiously? Is it legal for a pedestrian to walk into a cross walk and just linger, making cars stop longer than otherwise expected for a simple road crossing?

 

[msommer]

Well Nick, you should know the answer to that one.

Hint: read the bolded again.

 

[BigJohn]

5th UPDATE, Monday 12:30 PM:

Although his department is not charged with investigating this incident – that’s being done by the Traffic Division – White emphasized that “the pedestrians that were crossing the street legally have the right of way. For vehicle code and common sense, you cannot use a car to move people out of the way. Never ever can you use a deadly weapon to make a path across a crowd of people. When you are in a busy congested area, you must wait. I do not want to condone people’s impatience in justifying a car to go through a crowd of people.”

So...serious question...In my town (and many others) there are signs everywhere that say "Yield to Pedestrians," or "STOP for Pedestrians in crosswalk." With these signs, is there a reasonable obligation that pedestrians cross the road expeditiously? Is it legal for a pedestrian to walk into a cross walk and just linger, making cars stop longer than otherwise expected for a simple road crossing?

Here, there are crosswalks with a button they push, just like at a stoplight, the sign flashes yellow, and they just walk out as if there's nobody else around. It gets bad in front of a nursing school, where you could wait a few good minutes while all the budding RN's cross in front of you.

 

[sublimeone]

Who's wrong? both sides. The idiot driver and the mob-mentality zombies are both wrong. How is this an 8-page thread?

 

[Bucky86]

Who's wrong? both sides. The idiot driver and the mob-mentality zombies are both wrong. How is this an 8-page thread?

new around here?

 

[sdp1226]

Do the walking dead actually count as pedestrians though?

 

[Cliff Clavin]

Have the people blocking the intersection apologized to the lady for breaking her arm?

 

[pollardsvision]

Read a lot of comments before watching the video. I was expecting the video to show a scary mob pounding on a car and a driver understandably trying to get away from it.

The video showed nothing like that.

Car starts driving into traffic. Slow, but still a dangerous speed. There were 16 seconds between the time the car started honking and nudging into the crowd and then blasting off. I couldn't see anything that happened in that time that would have been a good excuse to accelerate into/through the crowd.

The guy jumping on the car didn't appear to be threatening anyone. Rude as hell, but not threatening.

The crowd generally showed a legitimate response reacting to a car trying to dangerously nudge it's way through it. Rude, non-threatening hood jumper aside.

Driver was in a hurry and seemed intent on getting through that crowd with a deadly weapon.

There was even another car patiently waiting beside them. This was a completely safe situation that the driver turned into a deadly one. They even made sure to roll the windows up as they embarked upon this escapade. Caring for their own safety, but not the others not protected by a ton of steel.

There was a 12 second window from the time it was clear that the crowd was not going to part the seas for them and the dude sat on the hood of the car. The driver should've disengaged and/or tried to safely back up to wait along with the other cars in that time.

I couldn't see anyone trying to open up the door.

 

[Sand]

you could wait a few good minutes while all the budding RN's cross in front of you.

Wait, there's something wrong with this?

 

[avoiding injuries]

Who's wrong? both sides. The idiot driver and the mob-mentality zombies are both wrong. How is this an 8-page thread?

new around here?

I had my initial opinion, dammit, and nothing anybody says is going to get me to reconsider.

 

[Otis]

Such nerds.

 

[Mr.Pack]

Do people really think that the right thing to do when a pedestrian is blocking traffic is to run them over?

If one of those pedestrians smashes my windshield, should I wait around patiently and ask them nicely to stop?

 

[msommer]

Do people really think that the right thing to do when a pedestrian is blocking traffic is to run them over?

If one of those pedestrians smashes my windshield, should I wait around patiently and ask them nicely to stop?

a: That's not the case here

b: preemptive attacks are not sanctioned by the traffic laws

 

[TenTimes]

Am I right that felony assault with a deadly weapon in CA is a minimum 2 years in jail?

Regardless of whether you think he was justified or not, hope everybody around here thinks twice before getting in to this type of situation. Not-worth-it.

 

[pollardsvision]

Am I right that felony assault with a deadly weapon in CA is a minimum 2 years in jail?

Regardless of whether you think he was justified or not, hope everybody around here thinks twice before getting in to this type of situation. Not-worth-it.

You mean driving a car into a crowd of defenseless people? Yeah, I think so.

When you get a driver's license, it's your responsibility not to, you know, run over pedestrians. "I was in a hurry" or "they were being an #######" or "they weren't getting out of the way fast enough" aren't accepted excuses.

Frankly, this situation isn't very different from the retired cop shooting a dude in the movie theater.

 

[Sabertooth]

Am I right that felony assault with a deadly weapon in CA is a minimum 2 years in jail?Regardless of whether you think he was justified or not, hope everybody around here thinks twice before getting in to this type of situation. Not-worth-it.

You mean driving a car into a crowd of defenseless people? Yeah, I think so.When you get a driver's license, it's your responsibility not to, you know, run over pedestrians. "I was in a hurry" or "they were being an #######" or "they weren't getting out of the way fast enough" aren't accepted excuses.Frankly, this situation isn't very different from the retired cop shooting a dude in the movie theater.

defenseless? They stood there for several minutes. If only they'd had the ability to show some manners.

 

[johnnycakes]

Driver did them a favor in their journey to become zombies. They got what they wanted.

 

[Jules Winnfield]

Am I right that felony assault with a deadly weapon in CA is a minimum 2 years in jail?Regardless of whether you think he was justified or not, hope everybody around here thinks twice before getting in to this type of situation. Not-worth-it.

You mean driving a car into a crowd of defenseless people? Yeah, I think so.When you get a driver's license, it's your responsibility not to, you know, run over pedestrians. "I was in a hurry" or "they were being an #######" or "they weren't getting out of the way fast enough" aren't accepted excuses.Frankly, this situation isn't very different from the retired cop shooting a dude in the movie theater.

defenseless? They stood there for several minutes. If only they'd had the ability to show some manners.

Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa... stop right there. Defenseless and not showing manners ain't even the same F!n' thing.

 

[pollardsvision]

Am I right that felony assault with a deadly weapon in CA is a minimum 2 years in jail?Regardless of whether you think he was justified or not, hope everybody around here thinks twice before getting in to this type of situation. Not-worth-it.

You mean driving a car into a crowd of defenseless people? Yeah, I think so.When you get a driver's license, it's your responsibility not to, you know, run over pedestrians. "I was in a hurry" or "they were being an #######" or "they weren't getting out of the way fast enough" aren't accepted excuses.Frankly, this situation isn't very different from the retired cop shooting a dude in the movie theater.

defenseless? They stood there for several minutes. If only they'd had the ability to show some manners.

Yes, defenseless. As in unlikely to escape an attack from a combustion-powered 3000 lb hunk of steel unscathed.

Obviously, it's good sense for the pedestrians to get out of the way or show some manners in case the driver is a maniac (as turned out to be the case). Just like it makes sense to listen to the guy wielding a gun.

But the handler of the gun and the car have the ultimate power and responsibility in the situation. "Poor manners" isn't an acceptable excuse to use lethal force.

 

[Jobber]

you could wait a few good minutes while all the budding RN's cross in front of you.

Wait, there's something wrong with this?

Most RNs dont look like the hot stripper RNs you're picturing.

 

[Sabertooth]

Am I right that felony assault with a deadly weapon in CA is a minimum 2 years in jail?Regardless of whether you think he was justified or not, hope everybody around here thinks twice before getting in to this type of situation. Not-worth-it.

You mean driving a car into a crowd of defenseless people? Yeah, I think so.When you get a driver's license, it's your responsibility not to, you know, run over pedestrians. "I was in a hurry" or "they were being an #######" or "they weren't getting out of the way fast enough" aren't accepted excuses.Frankly, this situation isn't very different from the retired cop shooting a dude in the movie theater.

defenseless? They stood there for several minutes. If only they'd had the ability to show some manners.

Yes, defenseless. As in unlikely to escape an attack from a combustion-powered 3000 lb hunk of steel unscathed.

Obviously, it's good sense for the pedestrians to get out of the way or show some manners in case the driver is a maniac (as turned out to be the case). Just like it makes sense to listen to the guy wielding a gun.

But the handler of the gun and the car have the ultimate power and responsibility in the situation. "Poor manners" isn't an acceptable excuse to use lethal force.

Unless of course they'd just walked 10 feet.

 

[Sabertooth]

Am I right that felony assault with a deadly weapon in CA is a minimum 2 years in jail?Regardless of whether you think he was justified or not, hope everybody around here thinks twice before getting in to this type of situation. Not-worth-it.

You mean driving a car into a crowd of defenseless people? Yeah, I think so.When you get a driver's license, it's your responsibility not to, you know, run over pedestrians. "I was in a hurry" or "they were being an #######" or "they weren't getting out of the way fast enough" aren't accepted excuses.Frankly, this situation isn't very different from the retired cop shooting a dude in the movie theater.

defenseless? They stood there for several minutes. If only they'd had the ability to show some manners.

Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa... stop right there. Defenseless and not showing manners ain't even the same F!n' thing.

What would Jules Winfield do in that situation? Manners was shorthand for "ability to not be a ####### idiot."

 

[pollardsvision]

Am I right that felony assault with a deadly weapon in CA is a minimum 2 years in jail?Regardless of whether you think he was justified or not, hope everybody around here thinks twice before getting in to this type of situation. Not-worth-it.

You mean driving a car into a crowd of defenseless people? Yeah, I think so.When you get a driver's license, it's your responsibility not to, you know, run over pedestrians. "I was in a hurry" or "they were being an #######" or "they weren't getting out of the way fast enough" aren't accepted excuses.Frankly, this situation isn't very different from the retired cop shooting a dude in the movie theater.

defenseless? They stood there for several minutes. If only they'd had the ability to show some manners.

Yes, defenseless. As in unlikely to escape an attack from a combustion-powered 3000 lb hunk of steel unscathed.

Obviously, it's good sense for the pedestrians to get out of the way or show some manners in case the driver is a maniac (as turned out to be the case). Just like it makes sense to listen to the guy wielding a gun.

But the handler of the gun and the car have the ultimate power and responsibility in the situation. "Poor manners" isn't an acceptable excuse to use lethal force.

Unless of course they'd just walked 10 feet.

Yes, it's smart to avoid an attack if possible, but it's still the responsibility of the attacker with the deadly weapon to, you know, not attack.

This is before considering the people in this crowd that may have been unaware that at a hothead in a sedan was at risk of blasting through. There were other cars around too.

 

[Jules Winnfield]

Am I right that felony assault with a deadly weapon in CA is a minimum 2 years in jail?Regardless of whether you think he was justified or not, hope everybody around here thinks twice before getting in to this type of situation. Not-worth-it.

You mean driving a car into a crowd of defenseless people? Yeah, I think so.When you get a driver's license, it's your responsibility not to, you know, run over pedestrians. "I was in a hurry" or "they were being an #######" or "they weren't getting out of the way fast enough" aren't accepted excuses.Frankly, this situation isn't very different from the retired cop shooting a dude in the movie theater.

defenseless? They stood there for several minutes. If only they'd had the ability to show some manners.

Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa... stop right there. Defenseless and not showing manners ain't even the same F!n' thing.

What would Jules Winfield do in that situation? Manners was shorthand for "ability to not be a ####### idiot."

Ain't no ####### ballpark either

 

[johnnycakes]

Am I right that felony assault with a deadly weapon in CA is a minimum 2 years in jail?Regardless of whether you think he was justified or not, hope everybody around here thinks twice before getting in to this type of situation. Not-worth-it.

You mean driving a car into a crowd of defenseless people? Yeah, I think so.When you get a driver's license, it's your responsibility not to, you know, run over pedestrians. "I was in a hurry" or "they were being an #######" or "they weren't getting out of the way fast enough" aren't accepted excuses.Frankly, this situation isn't very different from the retired cop shooting a dude in the movie theater.

defenseless? They stood there for several minutes. If only they'd had the ability to show some manners.

Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa... stop right there. Defenseless and not showing manners ain't even the same F!n' thing.

What would Jules Winfield do in that situation? Manners was shorthand for "ability to not be a ####### idiot."

Ain't no ####### ballpark either

Q: Ok, let me ask you this... if you were on a zombiewalk, would you have the ability not to be a ####### idiot?

A: Whoa whoa whoa, best back off here. I'm starting to get a little pissed.

 

[Ned]

Am I right that felony assault with a deadly weapon in CA is a minimum 2 years in jail?Regardless of whether you think he was justified or not, hope everybody around here thinks twice before getting in to this type of situation. Not-worth-it.

You mean driving a car into a crowd of defenseless people? Yeah, I think so.When you get a driver's license, it's your responsibility not to, you know, run over pedestrians. "I was in a hurry" or "they were being an #######" or "they weren't getting out of the way fast enough" aren't accepted excuses.Frankly, this situation isn't very different from the retired cop shooting a dude in the movie theater.

defenseless? They stood there for several minutes. If only they'd had the ability to show some manners.

Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa... stop right there. Defenseless and not showing manners ain't even the same F!n' thing.

What would Jules Winfield do in that situation? Manners was shorthand for "ability to not be a ####### idiot."

Ain't no ####### ballpark either

Don't feed the troll.

 

[Sinn Fein]

Driver should have hit more of them. Zombie walkers were being #####.

 

[17seconds]

I'm going to go ahead and let my complete hatred of nerds acting like zombies cloud my judgement. F-them

No shtick

 

[Dickies]

Do people really think that the right thing to do when a pedestrian is blocking traffic is to run them over?

When I watched the slo-mo video, the guy was inching through the crowd until some moron opened the door. A stranger opens my car door, especially the door of my wife or children, all bets are off.

Why is he inching through the crowd to begin with? Just keep the car 10 yards away from the crowd and let them pass and we have no problems.

 

[Sinn Fein]

Do people really think that the right thing to do when a pedestrian is blocking traffic is to run them over?

When I watched the slo-mo video, the guy was inching through the crowd until some moron opened the door. A stranger opens my car door, especially the door of my wife or children, all bets are off.

Why is he inching through the crowd to begin with? Just keep the car 10 yards away from the crowd and let them pass and we have no problems.

Why are people sitting on the hood of someone else's car in traffic? Legally, they may have had the right of way to walk in front of the car, but why tempt fate by jumping on the car of a clearly agitated driver? How did they think that was going to end? Everyone have a good giggle over the situation?

I'd rather give up my right-of-way and live, rather than flaunt my right-of-way and potentially die.

 

[avoiding injuries]

It's amazing what a little courtesy could help avoid in real life situations.

 

[Ned]

It's amazing what little justification some of you psychos need to justify potentially killing someone.