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CB/WR Travis Hunter, JAX (4 Viewers)
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80 percent of offensive snaps per Coen; interesting:
I think he has WR 1 upside if true.
No reason whatsoever he shouldn't be a top-4 dynasty pick, and a top-25 redraft WR. I'd actually be surprised if he saw more defensive snaps than your average dime CB.
I’ll give one reason: there is a decent chance that at some point he turns into a full-time (or nearly so) defender. Then his fantasy value would be near zero. That’s a factor no other rookie pick brings. I think the coaches will eventually put him primarily on one side of the ball.
eighsse2
Footballguy
Not sure what qualifies as "decent", but I feel like those odds are pretty low. (I mean with some sort of time stipulation. If he plays mostly as WR over a career of nine years, but during his seventh year they try him as exclusively defense for half the year, that wouldn't qualify the proposition as true in my book.)
But of course, any chance is a risk, and like you're saying, a risk that the other rookies don't carry. It's a knock, but in my opinion not a substantial one currently.
zamboni
Footballguy
All signs are pointing to Hunter being more or less a full-time WR, but can’t rule out the risk that the Jags suffer some big injuries and/or underperformance at the CB position and they ask him to shift there at the expense of WR snaps. Whether that is short-term or long-term could depend on how well he does on the defensive side of the ball at this level.
eighsse2
Footballguy
Hadn't even thought about that, but yeah. People do have a tendency to take small, specific examples and blow them out of proportion. I can see a lot of that in the future for this situation. He scores a touchdown on offense, and then later in the same game on defense loses a guy in coverage and gives up a game-changing touchdown. "What are these clowns doing, can't they see how good he is as a WR?" etc...
KellysHeroes
Footballguy
welcome to the NFL kid
Kaleb Johnson rushed eight times for 20 yards and caught 1-of-1 targets for six yards in the Steelers’ preseason Week 1 game against the Jaguars.
Johnson got the start with Jaylen Warren absent. His highlight of the day occurred on a second-and-three counter, when he stiff-armed Travis Hunter into the turf as he turned upfield to pick up the first down. It was a good showing for the rookie running back.
Kaleb Johnson rushed eight times for 20 yards and caught 1-of-1 targets for six yards in the Steelers’ preseason Week 1 game against the Jaguars.
Johnson got the start with Jaylen Warren absent. His highlight of the day occurred on a second-and-three counter, when he stiff-armed Travis Hunter into the turf as he turned upfield to pick up the first down. It was a good showing for the rookie running back.
KellysHeroes
Footballguy
They traded a load to draft Hunter the WR (and looking at the depth chart they need him at WR), allowing him to do CB is simply to make him happy; its not going to last long... I think the next couple of yrs is when he will do it the most but has he gets older it will get phased out; especially once he gets paid big boy money and or get injuries.
Now everyone concerned about the defense usage is valid because more time on the field means more chance of injury and he could fail as a WR which I think is highly unlikely. If your scared to take him and want Henderson instead after his performance... I wouldn't blame anyone
Well this was in response to Coen saying he will be in on 80% of offensive snaps.
KellysHeroes
Footballguy
will FBG update their ranking or keep listed as CB1?
Honestly, I think I believe Coen. I'm also encouraged at how much slot usage Hunter got (I was expecting mostly Thomas there) given Lawrence's success rate with Kirk/Engram, and Coen's usage of Godwin last year.
Pip's Invitation
Footballguy
I play in a league with former Eagle and 49er Brandon Whiting. It drafted on Thursday.
During the draft, he said he thinks there no way in hell that Hunter plays significant snaps on both sides of the ball because the game was too taxing on the body to do that when he played and it's even more taxing now. Take that for what it's worth.
During the draft, he said he thinks there no way in hell that Hunter plays significant snaps on both sides of the ball because the game was too taxing on the body to do that when he played and it's even more taxing now. Take that for what it's worth.
100% agree. I doubt he tops 20 defensive snaps in a game. He's a WR, who could play CB, he's not a true 2-way player.
KellysHeroes
Footballguy
where is he being drafted in leagues that score IDP points?
PPR League that also awards 2 pt tackles / 2 point PDs and 5 point turn overs I was able to get him late 4th as WR18
PPR League that also awards 2 pt tackles / 2 point PDs and 5 point turn overs I was able to get him late 4th as WR18
mjb03003
Footballguy
I took him in the 2nd round in a league where I can slot him in as a DB and get points for everything he does on both sides of the ball. IDPs don’t score a lot in this league and he is projected for roughly 3x the points of any other defensive player so it feels like a huge weekly advantage that justified that early round pick.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Who is rolling Hunter out as a starting WR on their roster Week 1 in Redrafts?
dmac37
Footballguy
This guy, just hoping to hear he is mainly in the slot = $ in the Coen system.Who is rolling Hunter out as a starting WR on their roster Week 1 in Redrafts?
I have him in a Yahoo PPR IDP league where he has both WR and CB designations. I can slot him as a CB and get both offensive and defensive points. However, he does not have a CB designation in League Dominator, so my line-up advice is skewed. Does anyone know if/when this will be fixed? He only shows up as a WR in League Dominator for me right now.
H8fulHuck
Footballguy
Immediately locked in as a flex starter for me in FBG home league 3 and FBG Bowl. I believe in his talent and opportunityWho is rolling Hunter out as a starting WR on their roster Week 1 in Redrafts?
TripItUp
Footballguy
KellysHeroes
Footballguy
3 starts
1 is a 16 Teamer so that is a no brainer
10 team redraft, starting over at WR2 / WR 3 is a choice between Pearsall and Jeudy / Flex is between Tracy / Jeudy
12 team Dynasty, starting over Pearsall and Trev Henderson
all leagues are MFL so he is locked in at WR but he is getting IDP points. Very tough choices but I'm curious how he does, may play Henderson over him in the NE Game though
I just jumped on to ask the exact same question. Also in a Yahoo league with IDP and seems to be throwing off both lineup and team projections. Hoping to get answers.
FarFromHome
Footballguy
Might be the hardest rookie for me to form my opinion on. One day i see a future pro bowl wr and the next day I wonder if he would be better just to play cornerback full time. I'm lost on him value wise.
Grahamburn
Footballguy
If he plays the slot and plays 80% of the snaps on offense he’ll have a Puka level rookie season.This guy, just hoping to hear he is mainly in the slot = $ in the Coen system.Who is rolling Hunter out as a starting WR on their roster Week 1 in Redrafts?
I think that’s what people are expecting from Egbuka, but Hunter may be that guy.
creepythinman
Footballguy
Why not a Nabers rookie season? Or a Ladd or BJT rookie season?If he plays the slot and plays 80% of the snaps on offense he’ll have a Puka level rookie season.This guy, just hoping to hear he is mainly in the slot = $ in the Coen system.Who is rolling Hunter out as a starting WR on their roster Week 1 in Redrafts?
I think that’s what people are expecting from Egbuka, but Hunter may be that guy.
Rookie WRs win fantasy leagues.
Grahamburn
Footballguy
He's playing the same role Puka did as a rookie so I thought it apt.Why not a Nabers rookie season? Or a Ladd or BJT rookie season?If he plays the slot and plays 80% of the snaps on offense he’ll have a Puka level rookie season.This guy, just hoping to hear he is mainly in the slot = $ in the Coen system.Who is rolling Hunter out as a starting WR on their roster Week 1 in Redrafts?
I think that’s what people are expecting from Egbuka, but Hunter may be that guy.
Rookie WRs win fantasy leagues.
It's the same reason Egbuka is such a popular pick. Hunter seems to be discounted due to the uncertainty surrounding how much he'll play CB.
creepythinman
Footballguy
Just saying it doesn't need to be the greatest rookie season ever for Hunter to be a league winner.He's playing the same role Puka did as a rookie so I thought it apt.Why not a Nabers rookie season? Or a Ladd or BJT rookie season?If he plays the slot and plays 80% of the snaps on offense he’ll have a Puka level rookie season.This guy, just hoping to hear he is mainly in the slot = $ in the Coen system.Who is rolling Hunter out as a starting WR on their roster Week 1 in Redrafts?
I think that’s what people are expecting from Egbuka, but Hunter may be that guy.
Rookie WRs win fantasy leagues.
It's the same reason Egbuka is such a popular pick. Hunter seems to be discounted due to the uncertainty surrounding how much he'll play CB.
Love Hunter. His explosive separation should make life easier with easy throws for Lawrence who is not a very good QB. Don't forget BJT didn't blow up until Mac Jones.
FantasyGuru24
Footballguy
Hunter or Egbuka week 1 in a .5PPR?
SanDawg
Footballguy
EE for me....I need to see how the Hunter snap count plays out.
KellysHeroes
Footballguy
Would love that, but Puka also was able to use hos large body to space out CBs. Hunter doesn't have that gameHe's playing the same role Puka did as a rookie so I thought it apt.Why not a Nabers rookie season? Or a Ladd or BJT rookie season?If he plays the slot and plays 80% of the snaps on offense he’ll have a Puka level rookie season.This guy, just hoping to hear he is mainly in the slot = $ in the Coen system.Who is rolling Hunter out as a starting WR on their roster Week 1 in Redrafts?
I think that’s what people are expecting from Egbuka, but Hunter may be that guy.
Rookie WRs win fantasy leagues.
It's the same reason Egbuka is such a popular pick. Hunter seems to be discounted due to the uncertainty surrounding how much he'll play CB.
KellysHeroes
Footballguy
Agree, can't go wrong with either
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
God I loved that show.
