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Ceedee Lamb v Davante Adams (1 Viewer)
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Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Non-PPR or PPR I take Davonte.
Adams has been one of the most reliable high end FF receivers every year except the one he had turf toe.
I like Lamb. He’s a tier below Adams, IMO. Potential for a beak-out season, sure. But Adams feels safer.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Isn’t Lamb in a new situation though?
Same team. But it’s a totally different situation.
habsfan
Footballguy
I agree but one might see being "the alpha" as a new situation. We've seen Adams fill those shoes already but Lamb didn't exactly grab the "1A" role with conviction last year.
Chaka
Footballguy
Tough call. What is interesting to me is Davante has 12 TDs inside the 5 the past two seasons. CeeDee has 3. It's an unfair comparison for a lot of reasons but Davante definitely has that short area quickness that should make everyone more secure with TD projections. I think Carr can exploit that and I am not sure CeeDee has that short area quickness/separation.
Davante>CeeDee
Davante>CeeDee
DropKick
Footballguy
We will see how Davante fares without Rodgers... in his 9th season
I'll take Lamb in PPR or non-PPR, but its close. I've got Lamb WR5 and Adams WR6. Ultimately, I think Lamb sees more targets, and has a better QB. Also, while Lamb's role might be different, its a lot less different then being on a new team, its still the same QB/HC/OC.
Lamb is also still only 23, so it should be assumed he's still on an ascendent path. Adams is 29, and is downgrading from a 1st ballot HOF QB to Derek Carr, and has more target competition than he's had in years with Waller and Renfrow.
Adams is a better NFL WR, I don't think anyone is debating that, but I'm not sure that's enough to make up for everything else.
Lamb is also still only 23, so it should be assumed he's still on an ascendent path. Adams is 29, and is downgrading from a 1st ballot HOF QB to Derek Carr, and has more target competition than he's had in years with Waller and Renfrow.
Adams is a better NFL WR, I don't think anyone is debating that, but I'm not sure that's enough to make up for everything else.
Chaka
Footballguy
Not sure why 9th season would be a concern for a player who has shown zero indication of a dropoff.
Carr is the obvious concern, but accuracy isn't really his issue, it's hesitancy.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Plus a whole lot of NFC shootouts against DEN, KC & LAC.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Adams has been such a target hog the last 4-5 years; CeeDee has nowhere near the same level of consistency. It is tough betting on a WR in a new situation but there’s good chemistry there. Great camp reports, they dominated the Pats in joint practices today.
Love Lamb’s talent but he disappeared for long stretches in far too many games last year. He’s gonna see a lot of attention this year with Amati gone and Gallup on the PUP.
Love Lamb’s talent but he disappeared for long stretches in far too many games last year. He’s gonna see a lot of attention this year with Amati gone and Gallup on the PUP.
SeniorVBDStudent
Footballguy
I could see a question about Adams versus Jefferson or Adams versus Diggs, but Adams versus Lamb is unwarranted and reflects an unhealthy Cowboys obsession. Even Adams versus Chase is a more viable comp question...Lamb has not demonstrated generational talent on the same tier as the four I've mentioned.
smbkrypt24
Footballguy
If we are talking dynasty value, Lamb has a higher ADP/ranking on both sites I look at. So from that perspective I would disagree that Adam’s is not on his level.
Cowboysfan8
Footballguy
Because Rodgers fed him from inside the 5 like a slot machine
efactor
Footballguy
efactor
Footballguy
Yep
First and goal from the 1. Rodgers back to pass, hits Adams at the goal-line. TD!
Chaka
Footballguy
As I said there are a lot of differences, Rodgers also has a rep of feeding his favorites (not sure it's true).
A big part of Adams's game is short area quickness and separation. I am not sure CeeDee has that. Carr is every bit as accurate as Dak and all reports indicate Carr & Davante have great chemistry.
For me it's Davante. YMMV
Dwayne Hoover
Footballguy
Lamb before Adams is not on my radar. If reaching was thinking Pittman possibly
GroveDiesel
Footballguy
I had Lamb last year and watched a decent number of their games. I just saw way too often that he simply disappeared in games. I’m not sure if it is inconsistent effort or what, but he just didn’t get open at times and seemed to lack concentration which lead to some bobbles and dropped balls at times as well. He just never really looked the part of a consistently dominant receiver.
If I’m drafting a guy that high, I’ll take the guy that has been a stud over and over again over the guy who hasn’t done it yet. Carr is not as good as Rodgers, but he is right around the level of Dak. And the Raiders threw the ball a ton last year.
For redraft, when drafting early in the draft, I’ll easily take the proven performer over the guy who you need to project a significant jump in production.
If I’m drafting a guy that high, I’ll take the guy that has been a stud over and over again over the guy who hasn’t done it yet. Carr is not as good as Rodgers, but he is right around the level of Dak. And the Raiders threw the ball a ton last year.
For redraft, when drafting early in the draft, I’ll easily take the proven performer over the guy who you need to project a significant jump in production.
I've been faced with this same question while either OTC several times this year and countless other times was a pick away mulling on it when the person in front of me chose for me.
I'd add I only play PPR.
I have always gone Adams.
My main rationale has been as simple as betting on talent or put another way I don't see Lamb being the in line for a potentially massive target load as quite enough to push him over Adams who at bare minimum will of course be heavily used as well.
It's something really when you consider that the WR going 1 or 2 in fantasy drafts is saying he's better then the WR he usually vies with to go 1 and 2 but also goes on to say Adams is the best WR in the league.
I'd add I only play PPR.
I have always gone Adams.
My main rationale has been as simple as betting on talent or put another way I don't see Lamb being the in line for a potentially massive target load as quite enough to push him over Adams who at bare minimum will of course be heavily used as well.
It's something really when you consider that the WR going 1 or 2 in fantasy drafts is saying he's better then the WR he usually vies with to go 1 and 2 but also goes on to say Adams is the best WR in the league.
Adams is the easy choice. I have had Lamb since his rookie year and he has disappointed vs the hype. He drops a lot of balls and the Dallas offense seems to forget about him for stretches. Carr isn't as good as Rodgers obviously but he and Adams do have a connection. They aren't coming in blind. Adams should continue his top 5 WR output.
fightingillini
Footballguy
I love Cedee this year, but I take Adams all day and every day no matter what the scoring system. LV is going to need to score a lot of points to compete with the AFC West. I see Carr throwing close to 5000 yards this year. LV has Renfrow and Waller so you can't just easily double team Adams.
Sure, Carr is a downgrade from Rodgers and Waller/Renfrow will be heavily involved. But I bet on the talent and Adams is a top 2 or 3 WR in the NFL in terms of talent.
For me, a bigger questions is comparing Adams with Diggs. I go back and forth between them.
Sure, Carr is a downgrade from Rodgers and Waller/Renfrow will be heavily involved. But I bet on the talent and Adams is a top 2 or 3 WR in the NFL in terms of talent.
For me, a bigger questions is comparing Adams with Diggs. I go back and forth between them.
Manster
Footballguy
Its a valid point...
But FF is about being ahead of the curve. I don't think it's preposterous to compare the two moving forward. Lamb is the THE guy in Dallas now. 23 y.o. ascending talent......vs 29 y.o. stud going to a new team. Dak > Carr and yea, Carr and Adams had an incredible run at Fresno, but Rodgers >>>>>>Carr......and Rodgers force fed Adams consistently.
For me, I lean Lamb based on the above. I'm not sold on Carr. I think he's a very good QB. He's accurate. He spreads the ball around. I don't think he force feeds Davante at will like Rodgers did......on the flip, I think Lamb will be a target hog, especially without Coop and Wilson.
Manster
Footballguy
I have the 10th spot in a ten team yahoo redraft. Ive been mocking a bit and I've ended up taking Adams/Lamb at the turn quite often. It leaves me with Zeke/Conner/Dobbins/Akers/Dillon at next turn for RB which I'm not too pumped about, but we only have to start one RB..... potentially two if you flex one......coupling Conner or Dillon with AJ Brown or Sutton there wouldn't be too shabby, imo
Pigskin Fanatic
Footballguy
i remember his first two seasons, so great post. still Adams > Lamb, but risk is higher on Adam imo.
ignatiusjreilly
Footballguy
Maybe I'm not rational on Lamb, but I just feel like we've been waiting for the breakout for the past couple years, and while he's been decent, he hasn't really ascended to the next level. Maybe he'll finally do it this year, but I don't find that I have a lot of faith in him.
Of course, I remember everyone expecting the Adams breakout in his second year after Jordy tore his ACL, and when it didn't happen I lost faith in him as well. Took another couple years but pretty soon he was the best WR in the league
Of course, I remember everyone expecting the Adams breakout in his second year after Jordy tore his ACL, and when it didn't happen I lost faith in him as well. Took another couple years but pretty soon he was the best WR in the league
efactor
Footballguy
So, you were expecting a break out in his rookie year?
No Cooper this year, Gallup still uncertain. He will be heavily targeted.
ignatiusjreilly
Footballguy
I wasn't expecting much from him either year. But yes, I do seem to recall a fair amount of hype when he was coming into the league. And given Jefferson and Chase the past couple years, it's not totally unreasonable to expect a rookie breakout.
Anyway, like I said, it's not totally rational. He's been fine each of his first two seasons. It's just never felt like he was truly elite. Maybe this is the year it happens, but I kind of need to see it first
Chaka
Footballguy
I'm not sure I agree Adams is a higher risk. CeeDee could certainly outperform him, he's very talented, but it's difficult to imagine Davante cratering. He seems like a high floor guy at the very least, particularly in PPR format.
habsfan
Footballguy
This is his third year. I drafted him last year expecting him to take the step to become the 1a to Cooper. That didn't happen. Does he fill the very well defined role laid out for him this year? We'll see.
TZMarkie
Footballguy
I don't think you can go wrong with either Adams or Lamb this season, but I am awfully high on Lamb.
In regards to Lamb's first 2 seasons........... wasn't his rookie season also impacted by Dak Prescott getting injured in week 5?
I don't know if Lamb will be a top 4-5 guy, but the stars certainly seem to be lining up for a big season if he stays healthy.
In regards to Lamb's first 2 seasons........... wasn't his rookie season also impacted by Dak Prescott getting injured in week 5?
I don't know if Lamb will be a top 4-5 guy, but the stars certainly seem to be lining up for a big season if he stays healthy.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
I wouldn’t mind him in the 2nd. But I have him with Evans and honestly I’m not sure I wouldn’t want Evans.I don't think you can go wrong with either Adams or Lamb this season, but I am awfully high on Lamb.
In regards to Lamb's first 2 seasons........... wasn't his rookie season also impacted by Dak Prescott getting injured in week 5?
I don't know if Lamb will be a top 4-5 guy, but the stars certainly seem to be lining up for a big season if he stays healthy.
But yeah - he could be a monster, post-post-hype sleeper.
Dak tries forcing it to Lamb and he often looks like a young WR trying to make a play on a bad ball. I feel bad for him when it's a drop.
Lamb can beat anyone so throw it where he'll beat them. Dak throws making him comeback or cut last second and it's frustrating.
Rodgers threw wherever Adams was headed towards and knew this. Carr better continue this.
I like that the Boys ran double coverage drills this summer but it's mostly a mental decision for Dak. Lead him and trust, stop making him work his way back for it.
STEADYMOBBIN 22
Footballguy
This Cowboys fan agrees with this. I also think the Cowboys are moving away from a high scoring offense to a more balanced team.
Pigskin Fanatic
Footballguy
where i pause is I was burned pretty bad with Adams coming into the NFL and right or wrong I attribute his eventual success, a lot of it, to Rodgers. hence the "risk" comment. he's also competing with more mouths to feed than he did at GB I think, I should go lookup his target % and compare to what renfrow & waller were getting as a baseline. Lamb's target share should go the other way.
