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Charles Rogers to be cut (1 Viewer)

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This was in today's email from Dave/Joe:

DET - WR C. Rogers To Be Cut?Source: Peter King, SI.comFootball analyst Peter King said of Lions WR Charles Rogers: "I think the Lions are going to cut Rogers. In fact, I'm pretty sure of it." [ [ [ [ [ [ [ [ [ [ OUR VIEW ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ]While shocking on the surface, Rogers has been on the bubble since mini camps. Mike Williams isn't much further ahead of him.
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Don't you think it's much more likely that they'll trade him - to try to acquire something for this former High 1st-rounder??? He's still loaded with talent - just got that 5-cent head!
 
Speculation should more surround where he'll end up.

Miami is a good possibility with half of the old Michigan State coaching staff there.

Oakland uses a vertical passing game and isn't shy about taking on problem children.

Philly might take a look with Moronwheg the OC there.

Denver could also be a possibility although there are no apparent ties there.

 
Foosball God said:
Speculation should more surround where he'll end up.Miami is a good possibility with half of the old Michigan State coaching staff there.Oakland uses a vertical passing game and isn't shy about taking on problem children.Philly might take a look with Moronwheg the OC there.Denver could also be a possibility although there are no apparent ties there.
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KC? I thought I'd read someone saying that they thought Dallas might want him, although they don't seem to need him (they're full up on head cases and attitude problems at the moment).
 
Q: Why not play Charles Rogers and Mike Williams more during the preseason?

A: This is the whole thing with the coaches: you have to earn it in practice. It's why Ernie Sims and Daniel Bullocks weren't in the starting lineup. I think Mike Williams is on safe ground now. He has shown enough in one game and in practice. He has only been here for one year, and he's shown some things.

I still think Charles Rogers is in danger. You can tell what they think of players by how much they are in the rotation. Today in practice with Roy Williams out, Glenn Martinez was the No. 1 WR. He hasn't been anywhere lower than No. 2. That tells you they like Glenn Martinez over Charles Rogers and Mike Williams.

Q: Mike Williams shouldn't be lumped in with Charles Rogers. The problems are drastically different. Mike Williams showed his ability down by the goalline - big body with good hands.

A: That goal line play is what they want him for. I agree with you. I don't think they can be lumped together. What put them together was their lack of work ethic. Last year they were both inactive because of their work habits. That's how they got lumped together. I think there's a little separation now. Mike Williams can make plays, but the problem is that Mike Martz is still not happy with his quickness getting in and out of breaks. That will be a bone of contention as we go along.

Q: Caller asks if Charles Rogers' lackluster performance and his false start will spell his demise.

A: Right now I don't think Rogers makes the team. He has to play his way on. I think he's done enough in training camp to play his way off the roster. He hasn't been bad, but he hasn't done anything to stand out.

Now, despite that, he has had two practices in which he challenged defenders and rise up, take the ball away, show flash. But, you can't do that here and there, you have to do that all the time. His lack of consistency hurts him. He has to bring it all the time. He'll have a great practice and then a mediocre one.

Q: Is there any chance Rogers knows he's going to be cut, and he's just fine with it? Maybe he's been that way since they wanted his bonus money.

A: His mindset is probably "if they're going to cut me then fine, I'll go somewhere else where they want me." When Roy Williams got the flanker position, after Rogers' injury, that became his first issue with this team. He didn't feel he was given the opportunity to get that spot back. In this offense it doesn't matter, anybody can get the ball, but that may have done the damage.

The Lions don't get cap relief if they win their judgment against Rogers. They only get the cap relief with what they actually get back. If I am Charles Rogers, I hide the money away anywhere I can. I don't think the Lions will be successful in collecting that money
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If he gets cut, I think Rogers becomes a valid candidate for the biggest draft bust ever, right up there with Leaf and the other Spartan bust Mandarich.

 
Rogers has had documented drug problems since high school. MSU kept it under wraps.

 
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I'd just like to point out what someone else already kind of said:

Charles Rogers is NOT to be cut.....yet. This is merely Peter King saying that he THINKS that Rogers will be cut. Not based on any info that he has, but rather just his belief based on what he has seen.

I don't think that he's necessarily off the mark, but the thread title is misleading IMO.

 
TwinTurbo said:
If he gets cut, I think Rogers becomes a valid candidate for the biggest draft bust ever, right up there with Leaf and the other Spartan bust Mandarich.
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No way, not even close. At least Rogers can partly blame injuries, for one. And really I question if anyone could ever be as big let alone a bigger bust than Leaf. And Mandarich as mentioned was actually a respectable OL for the Colts for a few years, so he's down the list even further. Anyway lol @ the loser.
 
i know this has no relevence, but i still can't believe i almost took Rogers over Larry Johnson in the rookie draft a few years ago. :shock:

 
amnesiac said:
i know this has no relevence, but i still can't believe i almost took Rogers over Larry Johnson in the rookie draft a few years ago. :shock:
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He went #1 overall in ours. We live in MI and the guy was a huge MSU/Lions fan. He traded Marvin Harrison for that top pick! I think that takes the cake.
 
hutchins929 said:
Rogers wont be cut.
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How many WRs do you think the Lions will keep? Roy Williams and Corey Bradford are locks to make it. Mike Furrey, Eddie Drummond, Glen Martinez, and more recently Shaun Bodiford, have all outperformed Charles Rogers and Mike Williams in practice. Scottie Vines played okay last year, although he is on PUP right now.I don't see any way for both Charles Rogers and Mike Williams to make the team, and I think Williams has a longer leash. I'd be surprised if Rogers isn't cut.
 
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Q: Is there any chance Rogers knows he's going to be cut, and he's just fine with it? Maybe he's been that way since they wanted his bonus money.

A: His mindset is probably "if they're going to cut me then fine, I'll go somewhere else where they want me." When Roy Williams got the flanker position, after Rogers' injury, that became his first issue with this team. He didn't feel he was given the opportunity to get that spot back. In this offense it doesn't matter, anybody can get the ball, but that may have done the damage.

The Lions don't get cap relief if they win their judgment against Rogers. They only get the cap relief with what they actually get back. If I am Charles Rogers, I hide the money away anywhere I can. I don't think the Lions will be successful in collecting that money
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I think this is a pretty intresting theory. It does seem like Rogers has been pouting since they drafted Roy. Maybe he is dogging it in hopes of getting cut. A very immature move if it's true, but it sure seems like a possibility. I can't believe all that talent just disappeared.
 
BigRed said:
TwinTurbo said:
If he gets cut, I think Rogers becomes a valid candidate for the biggest draft bust ever, right up there with Leaf and the other Spartan bust Mandarich.
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No way, not even close. At least Rogers can partly blame injuries, for one. And really I question if anyone could ever be as big let alone a bigger bust than Leaf. And Mandarich as mentioned was actually a respectable OL for the Colts for a few years, so he's down the list even further. Anyway lol @ the loser.
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I disagree. Rogers only broke his collarbone - it's not as if he tore his knee. So injuries are not what is keeping him off the field.LEaf actually played and started a few more games. Since he was a QB, I think he will naturally be thought of as a bigger bust, but so far IMHO he outperformed Rogers.As for Mandarich, many forget that he started a few years. HE was never dominant, but he started. That is more then ROgers can say.Rogers = BIGGER BUST at this point in his career. MSU graduate, fan favorite. And then bust.
 
Team Legacy said:
Beaumont said:
If Rogers gets cut, the Falcons will be all over him like ants on a picnic ...
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I'm sure! He and Vick have something in common. ;)
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Arthur Blank is real big on bringing in guys who have strong character ... I'm pretty sure Charles Rogers doesn't fit the bill. They wouldn't even consider David Boston 3-4 years ago (who was a FA, instead they chose to trade for Price) and said no to both TO who wanted to come here and to the Vikes in re Randy Moss. If the Falcons determine their existing WRs can't fill the role that Finneran handled (over the middle, tough yards) they'll likely sign Ricky Proehl. Right now they're seeing if Jerome Pathon has what it takes. I'd be stunned if Rogers ended up in ATL - they can't take the chance of him rubbing off on Jenkins and White, both of whom have made decent strides.
 
Ditka is God said:
Team Legacy said:
Beaumont said:
If Rogers gets cut, the Falcons will be all over him like ants on a picnic ...
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I'm sure! He and Vick have something in common. ;)
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Arthur Blank is real big on bringing in guys who have strong character ... I'm pretty sure Charles Rogers doesn't fit the bill. They wouldn't even consider David Boston 3-4 years ago (who was a FA, instead they chose to trade for Price) and said no to both TO who wanted to come here and to the Vikes in re Randy Moss. If the Falcons determine their existing WRs can't fill the role that Finneran handled (over the middle, tough yards) they'll likely sign Ricky Proehl. Right now they're seeing if Jerome Pathon has what it takes. I'd be stunned if Rogers ended up in ATL - they can't take the chance of him rubbing off on Jenkins and White, both of whom have made decent strides.
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:goodposting: For those thinking Rogers is a lock for Atlanta, pay attention to what Ditka is God just posted.

Charles Rogers will not...I repeat...Charles Rogers will not be wearing a Falcons uniform.

 
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T Man said:
BigRed said:
TwinTurbo said:
If he gets cut, I think Rogers becomes a valid candidate for the biggest draft bust ever, right up there with Leaf and the other Spartan bust Mandarich.
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No way, not even close. At least Rogers can partly blame injuries, for one. And really I question if anyone could ever be as big let alone a bigger bust than Leaf. And Mandarich as mentioned was actually a respectable OL for the Colts for a few years, so he's down the list even further. Anyway lol @ the loser.
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I disagree. Rogers only broke his collarbone - it's not as if he tore his knee. So injuries are not what is keeping him off the field.LEaf actually played and started a few more games. Since he was a QB, I think he will naturally be thought of as a bigger bust, but so far IMHO he outperformed Rogers.

As for Mandarich, many forget that he started a few years. HE was never dominant, but he started. That is more then ROgers can say.

Rogers = BIGGER BUST at this point in his career. MSU graduate, fan favorite. And then bust.
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Didn't he break it TWICE, though? Am I remembering that right?
 
pinequick said:
T Man said:
BigRed said:
TwinTurbo said:
If he gets cut, I think Rogers becomes a valid candidate for the biggest draft bust ever, right up there with Leaf and the other Spartan bust Mandarich.
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No way, not even close. At least Rogers can partly blame injuries, for one. And really I question if anyone could ever be as big let alone a bigger bust than Leaf. And Mandarich as mentioned was actually a respectable OL for the Colts for a few years, so he's down the list even further. Anyway lol @ the loser.
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I disagree. Rogers only broke his collarbone - it's not as if he tore his knee. So injuries are not what is keeping him off the field.LEaf actually played and started a few more games. Since he was a QB, I think he will naturally be thought of as a bigger bust, but so far IMHO he outperformed Rogers.

As for Mandarich, many forget that he started a few years. HE was never dominant, but he started. That is more then ROgers can say.

Rogers = BIGGER BUST at this point in his career. MSU graduate, fan favorite. And then bust.
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Didn't he break it TWICE, though? Am I remembering that right?
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He did break it twice, but neither was a compound fracture - and I don't think it was broken in the same place. The bone healed, and there really is no greater risk of injury to the bone then there was prior to the injury. The problem is that he has been a bit lazy and has had problems with substance abuse.

At this point, assuming he does nothing more with his career, I think he is a bigger bust then the two mentioned. However, he has talent, and it is possible that a change of scenery may change this.

 
How about Rogers to the PACK?! They need WRs in a BIG way! He has potential and may be able to beat out Bob Ferguson for the 3 slot (assuming Jennings wins the other starting job opposite Driver)

 
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