Chip Kelly's status with the Eagles (1 Viewer)

[General Tso]

Surprised a topic hasn't been created about this. Story is now going mainstream with WFAN talking about it.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/chip-kelly-losing-power-struggle-153200072.html

 

[GroveDiesel]

This is kind of crazy, except Chip does seem like the girl always making eyes at every other guy and thinking something else must be better.

That and I think Lurie and Roseman are clowns

 

[cstu]

I imagine Chip would be thrilled to coach the Bucs.

 

[ConnSKINS26]

What was up with letting Gamble go? I figured that was because he clashed with Kelly over personnel, and the Eagles sided with Kelly.

Is that not the case? That was a surprising firing.

Edit: article says it was basically Gamble/Kelly vs. Roseman...

Why would the Eagles let it go down that way? Doesn't Gamble have a record of success that beats out Roseman, nevermind Kelly who is obviously the best hope that team has right now.

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

Reid clashed with Roseman too, IIRC?

 

[TDorBust]

Roseman have dirt on the owner? Does he know what he did last summer? lol

 

[QuizGuy66]

Would be crazy to think Kelly could go that fast. If they were to trade him though they could get quite the haul - gotta think at least a 1 and a 2. Maybe more. I wouldn't pay that price but it's realistic.

If it goes down bad (i.e. he resigns or whatever) is Lurie the type to just sit on him and not let him go anywhere?

-QG

 

[daves]

Seems unbelievable, but I thought the same thing about the Harbaugh/niners rumors earlier this year.

 

[unckeyherb]

Roseman has been there for 14 years. Started as an intern and worked his way up. Won a power struggle with joe banner, aligning himself with Reid. Then distanced himself from Reid at the right time. He's no idiot. I think the gamble firing was a shot across Kelly's bow (especially after Chip basically defining Howie as a cap-guy. Implying not-a-football-guy). Possible Kelly didn't take the shot well. They're talking on local radio about hearing rumors that jelly may be traded. There will be riots in the streets if this happens, but who the #### knows. Can't believe this is even being speculated.

 

[MAC_32]

Harbaugh round 2?

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

Kelly had a good quote about Foles earlier this year too.

Chip Kelly offered support for injured quarterback Nick Foles and said the Eagles did not consider making a move to Mark Sanchez before Foles' injury. Kelly asserted his role as chief decision-maker of the roster.

“What I know is I control the roster, and you guys can say first hand: I don’t talk to anybody," Kelly said. "Whoever says they have a source with what’s going to go on with roster maneuvers or people going up, and people going down, then they’re never talking to the right person, but that comes from me, and that never was the case."

 

[IHEARTFF]

Eagles looking to 1 up the 49ers by getting rid of a great coach?

 

[General Tso]

https://mobile.twitter.com/DarrenDegaetano/status/551101004956327936

I have been told #Eagles head coach Chip Kelly has expressed interest in getting out of his contract.

 

[ConnSKINS26]

Woah. So this is real?

 

[Amused to Death]

The speculation that the Eagles might be losing head coach Chip Kelly hit a fever pitch on Friday afternoon, after Mike Florio of Pro Football Talk reported "something big" was happening with the team.

Florio later admitted in an interview on 97.5 The Fanatic that he "didn't know" what that something big was. And a new report suggests it might be nothing.

According to John Middlekauff, a San Francisco based reporter who was a scout for the Eagles from 2010-2013, Kelly is not leaving the Eagles, according to "multiple sources."

Although it is not fair to speculate on who those sources are, it is worth nothing Middlekauff's history with the organization.

If Kelly is leaving, the players have yet to be informed. Several players reach by NJ Advance Media said they didn't know anything about Kelly potentially leaving, and were not even following the circus of speculation that had taken over Philadelphia.

Kelly's relationship with the Eagles has been the subject of intense debate since theteam fired Tom Gamble, the man who Kelly hired when he joined the Eagles in 2013. According to a NJ Advance Media report, it was general manager Howie Roseman who decided to fire Gamble, leading to a soured relationship with the head coach.

What happens from here remains to be seen. The Eagles have refused to comment since Gamble's firing, only fueling speculation that something might be in the works.

Link

 

[GoBirds]

Roseman has been there for 14 years. Started as an intern and worked his way up. Won a power struggle with joe banner, aligning himself with Reid. Then distanced himself from Reid at the right time. He's no idiot. I think the gamble firing was a shot across Kelly's bow (especially after Chip basically defining Howie as a cap-guy. Implying not-a-football-guy). Possible Kelly didn't take the shot well. They're talking on local radio about hearing rumors that jelly may be traded. There will be riots in the streets if this happens, but who the #### knows. Can't believe this is even being speculated.

Isn't Roseman the one behind the Foles draft which gives him some cred while last year's apparent dud wasn't him? Besides that I'm not sure what Lurie loves about him but could be interesting. I like Chip but a few top picks and maybe you consider it.

 

[GoBirds]

Reid clashed with Roseman too, IIRC?

I think that was the rumor towards the end.

 

[Hang 10]

We will trade you Jay Gruden.

 

[unckeyherb]

Roseman has been there for 14 years. Started as an intern and worked his way up. Won a power struggle with joe banner, aligning himself with Reid. Then distanced himself from Reid at the right time. He's no idiot. I think the gamble firing was a shot across Kelly's bow (especially after Chip basically defining Howie as a cap-guy. Implying not-a-football-guy). Possible Kelly didn't take the shot well. They're talking on local radio about hearing rumors that jelly may be traded. There will be riots in the streets if this happens, but who the #### knows. Can't believe this is even being speculated.

Isn't Roseman the one behind the Foles draft which gives him some cred while last year's apparent dud wasn't him? Besides that I'm not sure what Lurie loves about him but could be interesting. I like Chip but a few top picks and maybe you consider it.

and fletcher cox. This last ####-show of a draft was all chip/gamble.

 

[GoBirds]

Roseman has been there for 14 years. Started as an intern and worked his way up. Won a power struggle with joe banner, aligning himself with Reid. Then distanced himself from Reid at the right time. He's no idiot. I think the gamble firing was a shot across Kelly's bow (especially after Chip basically defining Howie as a cap-guy. Implying not-a-football-guy). Possible Kelly didn't take the shot well. They're talking on local radio about hearing rumors that jelly may be traded. There will be riots in the streets if this happens, but who the #### knows. Can't believe this is even being speculated.

Isn't Roseman the one behind the Foles draft which gives him some cred while last year's apparent dud wasn't him? Besides that I'm not sure what Lurie loves about him but could be interesting. I like Chip but a few top picks and maybe you consider it.

and fletcher cox. This last ####-show of a draft was all chip/gamble.

That's what I thought, which would be a logical reason why gamble needed to move on. The main reason he took the position was to be near his ill father who recently passed.

 

[Thunderlips]

Roseman has been there for 14 years. Started as an intern and worked his way up. Won a power struggle with joe banner, aligning himself with Reid. Then distanced himself from Reid at the right time. He's no idiot. I think the gamble firing was a shot across Kelly's bow (especially after Chip basically defining Howie as a cap-guy. Implying not-a-football-guy). Possible Kelly didn't take the shot well. They're talking on local radio about hearing rumors that jelly may be traded. There will be riots in the streets if this happens, but who the #### knows. Can't believe this is even being speculated.

Isn't Roseman the one behind the Foles draft which gives him some cred while last year's apparent dud wasn't him? Besides that I'm not sure what Lurie loves about him but could be interesting. I like Chip but a few top picks and maybe you consider it.

and fletcher cox. This last ####-show of a draft was all chip/gamble.

Cox, Kendricks,Foles and Boykin.

 

[proninja]

If the nfc lost Harbaugh and Kelly in the same couple months, that would be amazing.

 

[Manster]

 

[krsone21]

Ian Rapoport ‏@RapSheet 15m15 minutes ago
The #Eagles announce a fairly large change. Howie Roseman elevated to executive VP/Football Ops. Chip Kelly runs player personnel.

 

[Bojang0301]

Can't help but think this is a ripple of the handling of DJax last offseason. I don't really like Kelly's style. I get the idea that more offensive snaps = more points = more wins but ball control has always been a huge key for success in the NFL. The talent deferential is too minimal to try and grind a defense out like has happened. I think Kelly is a smart offensive mind but he's made some questionable decisions in the limited number of games I've watched the Eagles play. Specifically the game where McCoy was on fire in the first half and then Sanchez threw the game away in the 2nd half. I don't think someone given the onus of genius does things like that.

 

[Amused to Death]

Can't help but think this is a ripple of the handling of DJax last offseason. I don't really like Kelly's style. I get the idea that more offensive snaps = more points = more wins but ball control has always been a huge key for success in the NFL. The talent deferential is too minimal to try and grind a defense out like has happened. I think Kelly is a smart offensive mind but he's made some questionable decisions in the limited number of games I've watched the Eagles play. Specifically the game where McCoy was on fire in the first half and then Sanchez threw the game away in the 2nd half. I don't think someone given the onus of genius does things like that.

Watch Andy Reid much?

 

[Bojang0301]

Can't help but think this is a ripple of the handling of DJax last offseason. I don't really like Kelly's style. I get the idea that more offensive snaps = more points = more wins but ball control has always been a huge key for success in the NFL. The talent deferential is too minimal to try and grind a defense out like has happened. I think Kelly is a smart offensive mind but he's made some questionable decisions in the limited number of games I've watched the Eagles play. Specifically the game where McCoy was on fire in the first half and then Sanchez threw the game away in the 2nd half. I don't think someone given the onus of genius does things like that.

Watch Andy Reid much?

Yep... and I actually have compared that moment to Andy Reid's tenure in Philly/KC.

 

[Amused to Death]

Ian Rapoport ‏@RapSheet 15m15 minutes ago
The #Eagles announce a fairly large change. Howie Roseman elevated to executive VP/Football Ops. Chip Kelly runs player personnel.

Sal Pal was on Philly radio during the drive home and said they needed to do something like this. Its an interesting listen if you have 15 min.

 

[IHEARTFF]

nice way to get a promotion

 

[Manster]

Can't help but think this is a ripple of the handling of DJax last offseason. I don't really like Kelly's style. I get the idea that more offensive snaps = more points = more wins but ball control has always been a huge key for success in the NFL. The talent deferential is too minimal to try and grind a defense out like has happened. I think Kelly is a smart offensive mind but he's made some questionable decisions in the limited number of games I've watched the Eagles play. Specifically the game where McCoy was on fire in the first half and then Sanchez threw the game away in the 2nd half. I don't think someone given the onus of genius does things like that.

College football and the NFL are almost different sports. Chip was very good in college. He may still be very good in the NFL. Time will tell.

 

[Slider]

Chip wins and Howie gets a new door on his office.

 

[Bojang0301]

Well Eagles are all in on Kelly now. At very least I don't think he'll Josh McDaniels your franchise.

 

[Insein]

Roseman has been there for 14 years. Started as an intern and worked his way up. Won a power struggle with joe banner, aligning himself with Reid. Then distanced himself from Reid at the right time. He's no idiot. I think the gamble firing was a shot across Kelly's bow (especially after Chip basically defining Howie as a cap-guy. Implying not-a-football-guy). Possible Kelly didn't take the shot well. They're talking on local radio about hearing rumors that jelly may be traded. There will be riots in the streets if this happens, but who the #### knows. Can't believe this is even being speculated.

Isn't Roseman the one behind the Foles draft which gives him some cred while last year's apparent dud wasn't him? Besides that I'm not sure what Lurie loves about him but could be interesting. I like Chip but a few top picks and maybe you consider it.

and fletcher cox. This last ####-show of a draft was all chip/gamble.

Cox, Kendricks,Foles and Boykin.

And Vinny Curry.

 

[flapgreen]

Chip has always been the "smartest guy in tge room" type. He's a great coach, but that will be his downfall.

 

[Raider Nation]

The speculation that the Eagles might be losing head coach Chip Kelly hit a fever pitch on Friday afternoon, after Mike Florio of Pro Football Talk reported "something big" was happening with the team.

Florio later admitted in an interview on 97.5 The Fanatic that he "didn't know" what that something big was. And a new report suggests it might be nothing.

Florio can't bear to be left out, even when there is no story.

 

[ConnSKINS26]

The whole HC-as-GM thing rarely works out. There are head coaches who are given lots or even most of the credit for personnel (Belichick, Carrol) but they still have GM's and don't have final say by themselves.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

The whole HC-as-GM thing rarely works out. There are head coaches who are given lots or even most of the credit for personnel (Belichick, Carrol) but they still have GM's and don't have final say by themselves.

You're correct. I trust him for now. Andy did this ad well and had s lot of success early on. We'll see

 

[Insein]

The whole HC-as-GM thing rarely works out. There are head coaches who are given lots or even most of the credit for personnel (Belichick, Carrol) but they still have GM's and don't have final say by themselves.

You're correct. I trust him for now. Andy did this ad well and had s lot of success early on. We'll see

Very first non Modrak draft was good. After that not so much.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

The whole HC-as-GM thing rarely works out. There are head coaches who are given lots or even most of the credit for personnel (Belichick, Carrol) but they still have GM's and don't have final say by themselves.

You're correct. I trust him for now. Andy did this ad well and had s lot of success early on. We'll see

Very first non Modrak draft was good. After that not so much.

We'll see in 2-3 years. I'm a Chip guy and I believe he'll be fine.

 

[Wise Old Owl]

The whole HC-as-GM thing rarely works out. There are head coaches who are given lots or even most of the credit for personnel (Belichick, Carrol) but they still have GM's and don't have final say by themselves.

You're correct. I trust him for now. Andy did this ad well and had s lot of success early on. We'll see

Very first non Modrak draft was good. After that not so much.

We'll see in 2-3 years. I'm a Chip guy and I believe he'll be fine.

Belicheck does not have a GM.

3 teams didnt have GMs last year, Patriots, Bengals and Cowboys, all three made playoffs.

 

[GreenNGold]

Chip is more of a Chump. His poor coaching decisions costed a talented Philly team any chance they had at the playoffs this year.

 

[renesauz]

Chip has always been the "smartest guy in tge room" type. He's a great coach, but that will be his downfall.

This is simply not true. Smartest guy in the room types don't spend half the time Chip does going outside of football/tradition to get ideas about how to make things better. The guy listens to and takes ideas from anywhere and everywhere.

What is true is that is that he's rejected a lot of ideas/philosophies that have been around in the NFL for a long time in favor of some new ones, and perhaps a few of those ideas should have been kept. The question is: will he later reject new ideas that are failing and maybe go back to a few old/traditional NFL ideas that he's rejected so far?

 

[STEADYMOBBIN 22]

Can't help but think this is a ripple of the handling of DJax last offseason. I don't really like Kelly's style. I get the idea that more offensive snaps = more points = more wins but ball control has always been a huge key for success in the NFL. The talent deferential is too minimal to try and grind a defense out like has happened. I think Kelly is a smart offensive mind but he's made some questionable decisions in the limited number of games I've watched the Eagles play. Specifically the game where McCoy was on fire in the first half and then Sanchez threw the game away in the 2nd half. I don't think someone given the onus of genius does things like that.

Bingo.

Ball control is why the Cowboys are in and the a Eagles are out.

 

[GoBirds]

The whole HC-as-GM thing rarely works out. There are head coaches who are given lots or even most of the credit for personnel (Belichick, Carrol) but they still have GM's and don't have final say by themselves.

You're correct. I trust him for now. Andy did this ad well and had s lot of success early on. We'll see

Very first non Modrak draft was good. After that not so much.

We'll see in 2-3 years. I'm a Chip guy and I believe he'll be fine.

Belicheck does not have a GM. 3 teams didnt have GMs last year, Patriots, Bengals and Cowboys, all three made playoffs.

Cowboys are pretty much the blind squirrel.

 

[STEADYMOBBIN 22]

The whole HC-as-GM thing rarely works out. There are head coaches who are given lots or even most of the credit for personnel (Belichick, Carrol) but they still have GM's and don't have final say by themselves.

You're correct. I trust him for now. Andy did this ad well and had s lot of success early on. We'll see

Very first non Modrak draft was good. After that not so much.

We'll see in 2-3 years. I'm a Chip guy and I believe he'll be fine.

Belicheck does not have a GM. 3 teams didnt have GMs last year, Patriots, Bengals and Cowboys, all three made playoffs.

Cowboys are pretty much the blind squirrel.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

Can't help but think this is a ripple of the handling of DJax last offseason. I don't really like Kelly's style. I get the idea that more offensive snaps = more points = more wins but ball control has always been a huge key for success in the NFL. The talent deferential is too minimal to try and grind a defense out like has happened. I think Kelly is a smart offensive mind but he's made some questionable decisions in the limited number of games I've watched the Eagles play. Specifically the game where McCoy was on fire in the first half and then Sanchez threw the game away in the 2nd half. I don't think someone given the onus of genius does things like that.

Bingo.Ball control is why the Cowboys are in and the a Eagles are out.

Health is why the Cowboys are in and the Eagles are out.

 

[CR69]

Can't help but think this is a ripple of the handling of DJax last offseason. I don't really like Kelly's style. I get the idea that more offensive snaps = more points = more wins but ball control has always been a huge key for success in the NFL. The talent deferential is too minimal to try and grind a defense out like has happened. I think Kelly is a smart offensive mind but he's made some questionable decisions in the limited number of games I've watched the Eagles play. Specifically the game where McCoy was on fire in the first half and then Sanchez threw the game away in the 2nd half. I don't think someone given the onus of genius does things like that.

Bingo.Ball control is why the Cowboys are in and the a Eagles are out.

Health is why the Cowboys are in and the Eagles are out.

Romo - fractured vertebrae

Murray - broken hand

Williams - broken finger

Free - injured for most of the second half of the season

Melton - injured again

Spencer - still recovering the first part of the year

Durant - injured

McClain - injured most of the season

Claiborne - injured

Let's not forget Sean Lee, one of the best LBs in the game who hasn't played a snap all year.

The reason the Cowboys are in the playoffs is because of the offensive line and Marinelli.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

Can't help but think this is a ripple of the handling of DJax last offseason. I don't really like Kelly's style. I get the idea that more offensive snaps = more points = more wins but ball control has always been a huge key for success in the NFL. The talent deferential is too minimal to try and grind a defense out like has happened. I think Kelly is a smart offensive mind but he's made some questionable decisions in the limited number of games I've watched the Eagles play. Specifically the game where McCoy was on fire in the first half and then Sanchez threw the game away in the 2nd half. I don't think someone given the onus of genius does things like that.

Bingo.Ball control is why the Cowboys are in and the a Eagles are out.

Health is why the Cowboys are in and the Eagles are out.

Romo - fractured vertebrae Murray - broken hand

Williams - broken finger

Free - injured for most of the second half of the season

Melton - injured again

Spencer - still recovering the first part of the year

Durant - injured

McClain - injured most of the season

Claiborne - injured

Let's not forget Sean Lee, one of the best LBs in the game who hasn't played a snap all year.

The reason the Cowboys are in the playoffs is because of the offensive line and Marinelli.

Did you list "injured guys" who never missed a game?

Lee has played 17 games in 3 years. Let's cool on the one of the best LBers in the game for a bit.

Speaking of OL we played games where we missed 4 starters. 4

 

[CR69]

Can't help but think this is a ripple of the handling of DJax last offseason. I don't really like Kelly's style. I get the idea that more offensive snaps = more points = more wins but ball control has always been a huge key for success in the NFL. The talent deferential is too minimal to try and grind a defense out like has happened. I think Kelly is a smart offensive mind but he's made some questionable decisions in the limited number of games I've watched the Eagles play. Specifically the game where McCoy was on fire in the first half and then Sanchez threw the game away in the 2nd half. I don't think someone given the onus of genius does things like that.

Bingo.Ball control is why the Cowboys are in and the a Eagles are out.

Health is why the Cowboys are in and the Eagles are out.

Romo - fractured vertebrae Murray - broken hand

Williams - broken finger

Free - injured for most of the second half of the season

Melton - injured again

Spencer - still recovering the first part of the year

Durant - injured

McClain - injured most of the season

Claiborne - injured

Let's not forget Sean Lee, one of the best LBs in the game who hasn't played a snap all year.

The reason the Cowboys are in the playoffs is because of the offensive line and Marinelli.

Did you list "injured guys" who never missed a game?Lee has played 17 games in 3 years. Let's cool on the one of the best LBers in the game for a bit.

Speaking of OL we played games where we missed 4 starters. 4

You said health, not players on IR. The ability and willingness to play through injuries is important.

My point stands, don't try to diminish what the Cowboys did this year by saying they basically luckboxed their way into the playoffs by being healthy. It's due to the commitment to the offensive line over the last several drafts and Marinelli getting the most out of one of the least talented defenses in the league.

 

[babydemon90]

Can't help but think this is a ripple of the handling of DJax last offseason. I don't really like Kelly's style. I get the idea that more offensive snaps = more points = more wins but ball control has always been a huge key for success in the NFL. The talent deferential is too minimal to try and grind a defense out like has happened. I think Kelly is a smart offensive mind but he's made some questionable decisions in the limited number of games I've watched the Eagles play. Specifically the game where McCoy was on fire in the first half and then Sanchez threw the game away in the 2nd half. I don't think someone given the onus of genius does things like that.

Bingo.Ball control is why the Cowboys are in and the a Eagles are out.

Health is why the Cowboys are in and the Eagles are out.

If the Cowboys had to start Weeden over the same period of time the Eagles had to start Sanchize, I suspect the Cowboys record would be much worse then it is.