Chris Brown (1 Viewer)

[The Ref]

Just keep in mind, LUCKS is only one naging injury away from being right about this. If, and I mean if, there is some sort of injury that limits his carries or if he flat out done for the season LUCKS is going to look right about this.

The problem with that argument is that you could say the same thing about LaDainian Tomlinson or any other RB in the NFL.

Exactly. Predicting an RB will have an off year b/c of injury is NOT prognostication.

As far as I remember, LHUCKS, your back of comparison to Brown was Deshaun Foster, and all you could talk about was how Foster would have a tremendous year if and when Davis went down... Davis did (predictable, because of age and injury). But then Foster did too. Foster's injury, just like any injury that could, in the future, happen to LT, or Chris Brown, or ANY OTHER BACK, was unpredictable. And you will not suddenly become "right" if Brown is injured, any more than you are wrong about Foster because of his injury.

As far as I can remember no-one took Deshaun Foster in the second round this year, the same can not be said about Brown. If I remember Colin and many other FBG last year saying Ricky was the way to go in the first round because even if he had a bad year, he was the least likely of the top guys to not produce. Not taking big risk at the top of your draft, be it injury or production risk, is something a lot of FBG's use as a guide in thier rankings. Once George was gone LUCKS had him ranked at 18 on his RB board and said in other conversations that Martin, because of production and injury risk, was a better choice in the 15-18 RB range this year. I think at this point it is aparent who is going to finish with more points this year if both stay healty - but at this point who do you feel has a better chance at being on the field come playoff time? As a very happy Brown owner in my #1 leauge - even I can admit I have more faith in Martin playing the whole year then Brown.If you wanted to be risk adverse - Martin was the was to go and continues top be a good choice. Lots of people seem to forget that right now. LUCKS may very well be dead wrong on this by year end, but it's not quite year end yet.....

 

[Marc Levin]

If you wanted to be risk adverse - Martin was the was to go and continues top be a good choice.

That is true.Doesn't change that risk aversion/injury was NOT the basis of LHUCKS' argument - it was his fall-back position after his previous theories for why Brown would fail were proven untrue. Plus, his main premise all the way to the last week of preseason was that Brown would not be the Titans' primary RB - IIRC, he also had some snide remarks after Brown was hurt in the Miami game.I touted Martin and Dunn as great values from the RB 18-22, but that does not make being 100% wrong ANALYTICALLY on Brown any less of a pie in the face.That is the problem - LHUCKS' analysis throughout the Brown situation has been 180 degrees away from how it has turned out - and he continued to put forth arguments that turned out wrong.The only thing he can hang his hat on to save his face at this point is if nagging injuries reduce Brown's fantasy worth - if a catastrohphic injury ends Browns' season while he is producing at a high level, LHUCKS is STILL wrong b/c that was not his premise.Harrier had it right - LHUCKS made 8-9 points for why Brown would fail, all of which turned out poor. The only one remaining viable point is that nagging injuries slow him down at some point (his ankle injury in week 2 REALLY slowed him down - LOL!)If I listed EVERY way that a back could fail, and only one of those things happens, I'm still wrong more than I'm right.

 

[jurb26]

If you wanted to be risk adverse - Martin was the was to go and continues top be a good choice.  Lots of people seem to forget that right now.  LUCKS may very well be dead wrong on this by year end, but it's not quite year end yet.....

OK now I'm confused. Wasn't Martin injured last year and what 30+. Isn't this the same formula he and many others used to site that Davis was a risk. Why is Maritn so different.... ahhh thats right because he has actually done well thus far and stayed healthy...... no wait so has C.Brown........ How much is the ticket for this ride, $5?

 

[Marc Levin]

Wasn't Martin injured last year and what 30+.

Yes, but he has played each and every game, though injured, for the last 6 years.

 

[jurb26]

Wasn't Martin injured last year and what 30+.

Yes, but he has played each and every game, though injured, for the last 6 years.

But not EFFECTIVLY he hasn't. So whats the big difference. A guy who gets hurt and is out or a guy who gets hurt and is reduced to a RB3/RB4. Niether is a great asset to your team.

 

[Marc Levin]

So whats the big difference. A guy who gets hurt and is out or a guy who gets hurt and is reduced to a RB3/RB4.

Well, that statement is LHUCKS prime argument - CBrown will be LIMITED by nagging injuries - not out for the year on a catastrophic one.It is all part and parcel of his slow retreat since May from stating that CBrown was worthless. And he is only grudgingly backing up because he HAS to.He is now hanging his hat on CBrown not being able to keep a decent pace due to nagging injuries, even though he has ALREADY fought through a nagging injury with a 100 yard/1 TD game.

 

[cstu]

Wasn't Martin injured last year and what 30+.

Yes, but he has played each and every game, though injured, for the last 6 years.

But not EFFECTIVLY he hasn't. So whats the big difference. A guy who gets hurt and is out or a guy who gets hurt and is reduced to a RB3/RB4. Niether is a great asset to your team.

What are you talking about? I would rather have a RB that puts up 30 PPG but misses 2-3 games than a guy who puts up 20 PPG and plays every week. The reason you have depth is to cover injuries and byes.

 

[jurb26]

Wasn't Martin injured last year and what 30+.

Yes, but he has played each and every game, though injured, for the last 6 years.

But not EFFECTIVLY he hasn't. So whats the big difference. A guy who gets hurt and is out or a guy who gets hurt and is reduced to a RB3/RB4. Niether is a great asset to your team.

What are you talking about? I would rather have a RB that puts up 30 PPG but misses 2-3 games than a guy who puts up 20 PPG and plays every week. The reason you have depth is to cover injuries and byes.

This is what I would rather have as well, but apperently we are in the minority because others seem to think a hurting RB performing below RB2 would be better.

 

[Mrskoal333]

I dont believe that Brown was overhyped at all before the season started. As a matter of fact I picked him in the 3rd round which means that almost everyone in my 12 team league already had there top 2 running backs picked. I also know that they went mostly by magazine predictions which means he wasnt hyped very much at all. I was a late pick in the 1st round so I waited till 3rd round to get Brown and 5th round to get Brian Westbrook. Brown wasnt overhyped at all in the preseason as a matter of fact I knew he was underrated thats why I waiting so long to get my runners because I kinda figured they would still be left there.

 

[LHUCKS]

If you don't agree with my rankings, instead of picking out one player after five weeks that that has outperformed his LHUCKS' ranking...perhaps you should look at my rankings as a whole and come to the realization that I'm simply better than you at this hobby.Or perhaps you can follow the leagues in my sig and ask yourself why I'm undefeated against the FBG staff in addition to the many self-proclaimed experts on these boards in ff survivor leagues. 

Virtually all of the experts I have seen in this hobby have never had to write something like this. Their actions and results over a period of time speak for themselves.

I didn't have to write that.The reason why "experts" don't write anything like that is because they are usually trying to sell you their expertise...talking smack is not the best way to win a popularity contest and it is certainly not the best way to sell a service.I'm not here to sell advice...I give it to many for free.I'm not here to win a popularity contest...I have plenty of friends.I'm here to discuss ff with the best and compete with the best because it is what I enjoy doing.

 

[Eric Stratton]

If you don't agree with my rankings, instead of picking out one player after five weeks that that has outperformed his LHUCKS' ranking...perhaps you should look at my rankings as a whole and come to the realization that I'm simply better than you at this hobby.Or perhaps you can follow the leagues in my sig and ask yourself why I'm undefeated against the FBG staff in addition to the many self-proclaimed experts on these boards in ff survivor leagues. 

Virtually all of the experts I have seen in this hobby have never had to write something like this. Their actions and results over a period of time speak for themselves.

I didn't have to write that.The reason why "experts" don't write anything like that is because they are usually trying to sell you their expertise...talking smack is not the best way to win a popularity contest and it is certainly not the best way to sell a service.I'm not here to sell advice...I give it to many for free.I'm not here to win a popularity contest...I have plenty of friends.I'm here to to discuss ff with the best and compete with the best because it is what I enjoy doing.

Not exactly. Almost every person in this hobby that I respect from many different sites and publications have never written what you did including that gem from another thread about owning this board. You should have used Chase's line from a few years ago...."I'm an important person here"

 

[beef]

Chris Borwn '04 = Troy Hambrick '03

Bush and/or Kerry must have approved this message.The fools.

 

[Mr. Mojo]

LHucks:I respect your sticking your neck out and having an independent idea on a player.But you lose me when you make statements that you are better at this than others without knowing how any of us are doing in our leagues.

 

[LHUCKS]

Not exactly. Almost every person in this hobby that I respect from many different sites and publications have never written what you did including that gem from another thread about owning this board. You should have used Chase's line from a few years ago...."I'm an important person here"

I think you missed the post where I said...

I'm not here to sell advice...I give it to many for free.I'm not here to win a popularity contest...I have plenty of friends.I'm here to discuss ff with the best and compete with the best because it is what I enjoy doing.

 

[LHUCKS]

LHucks:I respect your sticking your neck out and having an independent idea on a player.But you lose me when you make statements that you are better at this than others without knowing how any of us are doing in our leagues.

Obviously I do not know if I am better than you or anybody else on this board unless I have seen you or anybody else draft...and even then I would probably reserve judgement until I've seen multiple drafts and I knew the expertise level of your leaguemates.Frankly I am one of the best drafters on this board of those that I have evaluated...and that is taking the most objective approach possible. I can say that because I evaluate almost every single "expert" draft that comes across this board and I evaluate my own drafts as well.(as many of the staff here are fully aware of) I almost always do very well in these drafts. If you look at the threads related to the drafts in my sig you'll notice one commonality...many of the participants instantly label my team as one of the top contenders...that is not an accident and it certainly isn't because I kiss ### around here. Four different individuals competing in the WCOFF PMd me and asked me for advice with respect to their drafts this year...with a 2K entry fee I'm pretty sure that their confidence in my abilities didn't come from my "grandstanding" and I'm pretty sure it was backed with results. So if you are wondering where my ff confidence comes from it is my proven success in these expert leagues. My point is this...if you don't put out your rankings and/or compete in any of the well-known leagues around here or any other public league where the league participants are legitimate experts, your criticism holds zero water IMO. To earn my respect, at the very least put out your preseason rankings...it takes all of 5 minutes to cut and paste. I have no problem being the NY Yankees of this messageboard...what I will never be is the Chicago Cubs.

 

[EastBayFunk]

I think that winning streak in the Forum Challenge League is getting to your head LHUCKS. New York Yankees? The only reason people are still razzing you about this is because you won't admit you were wrong about Brown when it certainly appears that you were. I don't think it's a case of people being awed by or jealous of any incredible fantasy football skills that you possess.

 

[LHUCKS]

The only reason people are still razzing you about this is because you won't admit you were wrong about Brown when it certainly appears that you were. I don't think it's a case of people being awed by or jealous of any incredible fantasy football skills that you possess.

I'm perfectly aware of that. And if/when I am wrong the LHUCKS groupies will have their day.

 

[BassNBrew]

Or perhaps you can follow the leagues in my sig and ask yourself why I'm undefeated against the FBG staff in addition to the many self-proclaimed experts on these boards in ff survivor leagues.

Yo, you convienently forgot one of those experts leagues, you know, the one where you got the boot this week.III - LHUCKS Pos Player Team Pts * Week #5 Starter Points = 83 QB Jake Plummer DEN 23 ! P:17-29-2-226 R: 4- 8 TD5,P39 QB Michael Vick ATL 11 P:18-29-1-196 R: 5- 29 RB Justin Fargas OAK 6 R: 1- 1 TD:R1 RB Marshall Faulk STL 6 ! R:15- 51 C: 1- 4 RB Troy Hambrick ARI 11 ! R:10- 29 C: 2- 11 TD:C2 RB Garrison Hearst DEN 0 WR Brian Finneran ATL 7 ! C: 3- 45 WR Jabar Gaffney HOU 5 ! C: 2- 30 WR Terrell Owens PHI 0 WR Jerry Porter OAK 7 ! C: 4- 35 WR James Thrash WAS 0 WR Peter Warrick CIN 0 TE Randy McMichael MIA 14 ! C: 4- 62 TE Marcus Pollard IND 0 K Olindo Mare MIA 0 K Todd Peterson SF 9 ! FGs:37,42,32 Def Chicago CHI 0 Def St. Louis STL 1 ! S:1-12 PA:27 YA:391

 

[LHUCKS]

Or perhaps you can follow the leagues in my sig and ask yourself why I'm undefeated against the FBG staff in addition to the many self-proclaimed experts on these boards in ff survivor leagues. 

Yo, you convienently forgot one of those experts leagues, you know, the one where you got the boot this week.III - LHUCKS Pos Player Team Pts * Week #5 Starter Points = 83 QB Jake Plummer DEN 23 ! P:17-29-2-226 R: 4- 8 TD5,P39 QB Michael Vick ATL 11 P:18-29-1-196 R: 5- 29 RB Justin Fargas OAK 6 R: 1- 1 TD:R1 RB Marshall Faulk STL 6 ! R:15- 51 C: 1- 4 RB Troy Hambrick ARI 11 ! R:10- 29 C: 2- 11 TD:C2 RB Garrison Hearst DEN 0 WR Brian Finneran ATL 7 ! C: 3- 45 WR Jabar Gaffney HOU 5 ! C: 2- 30 WR Terrell Owens PHI 0 WR Jerry Porter OAK 7 ! C: 4- 35 WR James Thrash WAS 0 WR Peter Warrick CIN 0 TE Randy McMichael MIA 14 ! C: 4- 62 TE Marcus Pollard IND 0 K Olindo Mare MIA 0 K Todd Peterson SF 9 ! FGs:37,42,32 Def Chicago CHI 0 Def St. Louis STL 1 ! S:1-12 PA:27 YA:391

I knew this would come up but if you remember Bass I purposely used this league as an example of how not to draft. I would never start a draft with Faulk, Vick, T.O. ...look no further than my preseason rankings and/or several other drafts and you'll see what I mean. I have none of those players on any of my other seven leagues...that is not coincidence.This draft was the exact opposite of my philosophy and I'm using it as a case study for my ff white paper...an example of how not to draft.Good try though.

 

[EastBayFunk]

Or perhaps you can follow the leagues in my sig and ask yourself why I'm undefeated against the FBG staff in addition to the many self-proclaimed experts on these boards in ff survivor leagues. 

Yo, you convienently forgot one of those experts leagues, you know, the one where you got the boot this week.III - LHUCKS Pos Player Team Pts * Week #5 Starter Points = 83 QB Jake Plummer DEN 23 ! P:17-29-2-226 R: 4- 8 TD5,P39 QB Michael Vick ATL 11 P:18-29-1-196 R: 5- 29 RB Justin Fargas OAK 6 R: 1- 1 TD:R1 RB Marshall Faulk STL 6 ! R:15- 51 C: 1- 4 RB Troy Hambrick ARI 11 ! R:10- 29 C: 2- 11 TD:C2 RB Garrison Hearst DEN 0 WR Brian Finneran ATL 7 ! C: 3- 45 WR Jabar Gaffney HOU 5 ! C: 2- 30 WR Terrell Owens PHI 0 WR Jerry Porter OAK 7 ! C: 4- 35 WR James Thrash WAS 0 WR Peter Warrick CIN 0 TE Randy McMichael MIA 14 ! C: 4- 62 TE Marcus Pollard IND 0 K Olindo Mare MIA 0 K Todd Peterson SF 9 ! FGs:37,42,32 Def Chicago CHI 0 Def St. Louis STL 1 ! S:1-12 PA:27 YA:391

I knew this would come up but if you remember Bass I purposely used this league as an example of how not to draft. I would never start a draft with Faulk, Vick, T.O. ...look no further than my preseason rankings and/or several other drafts and you'll see what I mean. I have none of those players on any of my other seven leagues...that is not coincidence.This draft was the exact opposite of my philosophy and I'm using it as a case study for my ff white paper...an example of how not to draft.Good try though.

Liar liar pants on fire.

2.08 20 LHUCKS Faulk, Marshall STL RB Mon Aug 23 9:09:32 p.m. ET 2004 This was the guy I wanted.

Sorry, but I had to call you out. Just don't go dig up any old threads in which I pimped Kevan Barlow.

 

[rgabbard]

I can respect you LHUCKS but you lose points when you post comments like this:

Frankly I am one of the best drafters on this board of those that I have evaluated...and that is taking the most objective approach possible.

I have no problem being the NY Yankees of this messageboard...what I will never be is the Chicago Cubs.

Comments like those tend to not go over very well around here. It comes very close to another infamous quote:

"I'm an important person around here".

 

[switz]

What I find amusing is that some of the most fervent posters on this thread didn't have the balls to put out their own rankings or jump into some of the more well-known "expert" leagues around here. Congratulations...you are one of the several sheep that jumped on the Chris Brown Bandwagon and you may be right about one player...that means nothing to anybody who is well-versed in this hobby.

Guess I'm not a fervrent poster in this thread

 

[BassNBrew]

Or perhaps you can follow the leagues in my sig and ask yourself why I'm undefeated against the FBG staff in addition to the many self-proclaimed experts on these boards in ff survivor leagues. 

Yo, you convienently forgot one of those experts leagues, you know, the one where you got the boot this week.III - LHUCKS Pos Player Team Pts * Week #5 Starter Points = 83 QB Jake Plummer DEN 23 ! P:17-29-2-226 R: 4- 8 TD5,P39 QB Michael Vick ATL 11 P:18-29-1-196 R: 5- 29 RB Justin Fargas OAK 6 R: 1- 1 TD:R1 RB Marshall Faulk STL 6 ! R:15- 51 C: 1- 4 RB Troy Hambrick ARI 11 ! R:10- 29 C: 2- 11 TD:C2 RB Garrison Hearst DEN 0 WR Brian Finneran ATL 7 ! C: 3- 45 WR Jabar Gaffney HOU 5 ! C: 2- 30 WR Terrell Owens PHI 0 WR Jerry Porter OAK 7 ! C: 4- 35 WR James Thrash WAS 0 WR Peter Warrick CIN 0 TE Randy McMichael MIA 14 ! C: 4- 62 TE Marcus Pollard IND 0 K Olindo Mare MIA 0 K Todd Peterson SF 9 ! FGs:37,42,32 Def Chicago CHI 0 Def St. Louis STL 1 ! S:1-12 PA:27 YA:391

I knew this would come up but if you remember Bass I purposely used this league as an example of how not to draft. I would never start a draft with Faulk, Vick, T.O. ...look no further than my preseason rankings and/or several other drafts and you'll see what I mean. I have none of those players on any of my other seven leagues...that is not coincidence.This draft was the exact opposite of my philosophy and I'm using it as a case study for my ff white paper.Good try though.

:rotflmao: Good description of your draft...white paper aka toilet paper.And I guess this thread will be your white paper on how not to find break out running backs.

 

[switz]

Frankly I am one of the best drafters on this board of those that I have evaluated...and that is taking the most objective approach possible.

Where do you rank my LHucks, not to go divergent, just curious....

 

[LHUCKS]

I can respect you LHUCKS but you lose points when you post comments like this:

Frankly I am one of the best drafters on this board of those that I have evaluated...and that is taking the most objective approach possible.   

I have no problem being the NY Yankees of this messageboard...what I will never be is the Chicago Cubs.

Comments like those tend to not go over very well around here. It comes very close to another infamous quote:

"I'm an important person around here". 

I think you missed the post where I said I wasn't trying to get "points"

 

[LHUCKS]

Or perhaps you can follow the leagues in my sig and ask yourself why I'm undefeated against the FBG staff in addition to the many self-proclaimed experts on these boards in ff survivor leagues. 

Yo, you convienently forgot one of those experts leagues, you know, the one where you got the boot this week.III - LHUCKS Pos Player Team Pts * Week #5 Starter Points = 83 QB Jake Plummer DEN 23 ! P:17-29-2-226 R: 4- 8 TD5,P39 QB Michael Vick ATL 11 P:18-29-1-196 R: 5- 29 RB Justin Fargas OAK 6 R: 1- 1 TD:R1 RB Marshall Faulk STL 6 ! R:15- 51 C: 1- 4 RB Troy Hambrick ARI 11 ! R:10- 29 C: 2- 11 TD:C2 RB Garrison Hearst DEN 0 WR Brian Finneran ATL 7 ! C: 3- 45 WR Jabar Gaffney HOU 5 ! C: 2- 30 WR Terrell Owens PHI 0 WR Jerry Porter OAK 7 ! C: 4- 35 WR James Thrash WAS 0 WR Peter Warrick CIN 0 TE Randy McMichael MIA 14 ! C: 4- 62 TE Marcus Pollard IND 0 K Olindo Mare MIA 0 K Todd Peterson SF 9 ! FGs:37,42,32 Def Chicago CHI 0 Def St. Louis STL 1 ! S:1-12 PA:27 YA:391

I knew this would come up but if you remember Bass I purposely used this league as an example of how not to draft. I would never start a draft with Faulk, Vick, T.O. ...look no further than my preseason rankings and/or several other drafts and you'll see what I mean. I have none of those players on any of my other seven leagues...that is not coincidence.This draft was the exact opposite of my philosophy and I'm using it as a case study for my ff white paper...an example of how not to draft.Good try though.

Liar liar pants on fire.

2.08 20 LHUCKS Faulk, Marshall STL RB Mon Aug 23 9:09:32 p.m. ET 2004 This was the guy I wanted.

Sorry, but I had to call you out. Just don't go dig up any old threads in which I pimped Kevan Barlow.

Actually Faulk I also have in the FBG Forum challenge league...I should have been more specific. I would never start a draft with the the risk profile of Faulk/T.O./Vick collectively.

 

[LHUCKS]

Or perhaps you can follow the leagues in my sig and ask yourself why I'm undefeated against the FBG staff in addition to the many self-proclaimed experts on these boards in ff survivor leagues. 

Yo, you convienently forgot one of those experts leagues, you know, the one where you got the boot this week.III - LHUCKS Pos Player Team Pts * Week #5 Starter Points = 83 QB Jake Plummer DEN 23 ! P:17-29-2-226 R: 4- 8 TD5,P39 QB Michael Vick ATL 11 P:18-29-1-196 R: 5- 29 RB Justin Fargas OAK 6 R: 1- 1 TD:R1 RB Marshall Faulk STL 6 ! R:15- 51 C: 1- 4 RB Troy Hambrick ARI 11 ! R:10- 29 C: 2- 11 TD:C2 RB Garrison Hearst DEN 0 WR Brian Finneran ATL 7 ! C: 3- 45 WR Jabar Gaffney HOU 5 ! C: 2- 30 WR Terrell Owens PHI 0 WR Jerry Porter OAK 7 ! C: 4- 35 WR James Thrash WAS 0 WR Peter Warrick CIN 0 TE Randy McMichael MIA 14 ! C: 4- 62 TE Marcus Pollard IND 0 K Olindo Mare MIA 0 K Todd Peterson SF 9 ! FGs:37,42,32 Def Chicago CHI 0 Def St. Louis STL 1 ! S:1-12 PA:27 YA:391

I knew this would come up but if you remember Bass I purposely used this league as an example of how not to draft. I would never start a draft with Faulk, Vick, T.O. ...look no further than my preseason rankings and/or several other drafts and you'll see what I mean. I have none of those players on any of my other seven leagues...that is not coincidence.This draft was the exact opposite of my philosophy and I'm using it as a case study for my ff white paper.Good try though.

:rotflmao: Good description of your draft...white paper aka toilet paper.And I guess this thread will be your white paper on how not to find break out running backs.

Bass...you are my toilet paper...I've been wiping my ### with your rosters for a couple of years now

 

[LHUCKS]

Frankly I am one of the best drafters on this board of those that I have evaluated...and that is taking the most objective approach possible.

Where do you rank my LHucks, not to go divergent, just curious....

Actually Switz, you are one of a handful of posters that I respect around here because it is clear that you are an independent thinker...and you certainly aren't here to win a popularity contest. We could use about 20 more of you on this board.That being said, your EBF Invitational squad still has no chance against my juggernaut of a team!

 

[rgabbard]

I can respect you LHUCKS but you lose points when you post comments like this:

Frankly I am one of the best drafters on this board of those that I have evaluated...and that is taking the most objective approach possible.   

I have no problem being the NY Yankees of this messageboard...what I will never be is the Chicago Cubs.

Comments like those tend to not go over very well around here. It comes very close to another infamous quote:

"I'm an important person around here". 

I think you missed the post where I said I wasn't trying to get "points"

I read it and I truly believe you, but I still hate reading comments from posters bragging about how good they are. Cuz no matter how you preface it, it never comes out right.

 

[Tony Jabroni]

Is this where we cornhole?

 

[Marc Levin]

I can respect you LHUCKS but you lose points when you post comments like this:

Frankly I am one of the best drafters on this board of those that I have evaluated...and that is taking the most objective approach possible.   

I have no problem being the NY Yankees of this messageboard...what I will never be is the Chicago Cubs.

Comments like those tend to not go over very well around here. It comes very close to another infamous quote:

"I'm an important person around here". 

I think you missed the post where I said I wasn't trying to get "points"

I read it and I truly believe you, but I still hate reading comments from posters bragging about how good they are. Cuz no matter how you preface it, it never comes out right.

I am an important person in this thread.

 

[rgabbard]

Is this where we cornhole?

WRONG FORUM...Here's what your looking for

 

[rgabbard]

I am an important person in this thread.

:rotflmao:

 

[BassNBrew]

Or perhaps you can follow the leagues in my sig and ask yourself why I'm undefeated against the FBG staff in addition to the many self-proclaimed experts on these boards in ff survivor leagues. 

Yo, you convienently forgot one of those experts leagues, you know, the one where you got the boot this week.III - LHUCKS Pos Player Team Pts * Week #5 Starter Points = 83 QB Jake Plummer DEN 23 ! P:17-29-2-226 R: 4- 8 TD5,P39 QB Michael Vick ATL 11 P:18-29-1-196 R: 5- 29 RB Justin Fargas OAK 6 R: 1- 1 TD:R1 RB Marshall Faulk STL 6 ! R:15- 51 C: 1- 4 RB Troy Hambrick ARI 11 ! R:10- 29 C: 2- 11 TD:C2 RB Garrison Hearst DEN 0 WR Brian Finneran ATL 7 ! C: 3- 45 WR Jabar Gaffney HOU 5 ! C: 2- 30 WR Terrell Owens PHI 0 WR Jerry Porter OAK 7 ! C: 4- 35 WR James Thrash WAS 0 WR Peter Warrick CIN 0 TE Randy McMichael MIA 14 ! C: 4- 62 TE Marcus Pollard IND 0 K Olindo Mare MIA 0 K Todd Peterson SF 9 ! FGs:37,42,32 Def Chicago CHI 0 Def St. Louis STL 1 ! S:1-12 PA:27 YA:391

I knew this would come up but if you remember Bass I purposely used this league as an example of how not to draft. I would never start a draft with Faulk, Vick, T.O. ...look no further than my preseason rankings and/or several other drafts and you'll see what I mean. I have none of those players on any of my other seven leagues...that is not coincidence.This draft was the exact opposite of my philosophy and I'm using it as a case study for my ff white paper.Good try though.

:rotflmao: Good description of your draft...white paper aka toilet paper.And I guess this thread will be your white paper on how not to find break out running backs.

Bass...you are my toilet paper...I've been wiping my ### with your roster for a couple of years now

Lucks, quite amusing considering you just got flushed out of the SSL. Why don't you toot your horn once you actually win something around here or get a Chris Brown prediction even remotely correct. My six year old has a bigger sack than you, at least he can rationally deal with a loss, unlike you.

 

[switz]

That being said, your EBF Invitational squad still has no chance against my juggernaut of a team!

I believe I have a higher ppg Week 1:4. switz - 1486. LHUCKS - 138Week 2:2. LHUCKS - 1465. switz - 134Week 3:1. LHUCKS - 183 (Immune for week 4)3. switz - 167Week 4:3. LHUCKS - 1176. switz - 101Week 5:1. Switz 164 (Immune for week 6)4. LHucks 115TotalSwitz 714LHucks 699

 

[LHUCKS]

That being said, your EBF Invitational squad still has no chance against my juggernaut of a team!

I believe I have a higher ppg Week 1:4. switz - 1486. LHUCKS - 138Week 2:2. LHUCKS - 1465. switz - 134Week 3:1. LHUCKS - 183 (Immune for week 4)3. switz - 167Week 4:3. LHUCKS - 1176. switz - 101Week 5:1. Switz 164 (Immune for week 6)4. LHucks 115TotalSwitz 714LHucks 699

Enjoy that 15 point lead while it lasts Switz

 

[popeye]

Is this the place where they pledge their undying faith in the teachings of LHUCKS?

 

[Gerg73]

FLIP-FLOPPER!!!!

 

[Gerg73]

If you're such an "Expert Drafter", why do you rely on info from CBS?ANY self-Respecting FBG would NEVER admit to this. July 21 -

Blurb I just read on CBS that appears to echo my sentiments:QUOTE  with George on the market, the value of several running backs could be altered this season. Second-year rusher Chris Brown would move up the depth chart and emerge as the Titans' starter, but the team will also look to sign a veteran such as James Stewart, Antowain Smith or Stacey Mack as insurance.  Brown and Robert Holcombe are the only two backs on the roster with NFL experience -- Troy Fleming, Vick King and Jarrett Payton are all rookies -- so owners should expect a veteran to be signed and take carries from Brown and limit the rise in his value. At best, the Colorado product will serve as a useful No. 3, flex player or an occasional No. 2 against favorable opponents. Two key words = "At Best"

 

[Gerg73]

So, will you still stand behind this statement?

There is always a chance that Brown drastically improves over the offseason(The Titans are saying he is progressing), but I'll believe it when I see it. Some guys just don't have the talent.

Do you believe he has NFL Caliber talent?Isn't it true, that your ONLY hope of saving face on this Topic is for Brown to get injured?Answer - YES!Why are you SO AGAINST admitting that you're DEAD WRONG on ONE topic?IS your REAL name LHUCKS W. Bush?

 

[Gerg73]

July 21 -

DeShaun Foster in Tennessee would equal top 10 RB numbers.

WRONG AGAIN! Guess what? He got injured!

If Foster was in Tenn I would definitely draft him in the 4th round

So I guess you "Pick & Choose" which RB's with injury histories you're willing to hook your Horse to, huh?Why isn't Foster an injury risk in the 4th?Why the inconsistency?Oh yeah, I forgot, "Some guys just don't have the talent. "

 

[Gerg73]

I wonder if this was included in your Toi.. I mean White Paper "The Risk Management Perspective of FF: How to Win at FF."

A. Smith and Stewart are better RBs than Chris Brown...I truly believe that...based on what I've seen in the past two years.

This statement alone should disqualify you from RB evaluation. SERIOUSLY!You may be an "Expert Drafter", but you SUCK at evaluating RB Talent.

 

[Gerg73]

See L, your biggest problem on this topic is you listened to "Coach Speak".

I have Suggs ranked higher than Brown also.The Browns have stated they will NOT be using a RBBC, that makes Suggs a much more likely candidate to be an impact FF RB.

Now Butch Davis is calling it a RBBC.

Live press conference: Fisher says Brown will play much more than he would have had Eddie stayed, but will share carries with whomever they agree to terms with. RBBC...which is what I've been saying all along.

So, Fisher lied OR Chris Browns' talent and production dictated a change.Either way, you fell VICTIM to Coach-Speak.

 

[Gerg73]

Brown in my opinion has subpar talent. Unless you're a power runner like Eddie George or Bettis, you wont last in the NFL if you can't make people miss. Brown just isn't elusive or fast enough to be an everydown NFL back.

Will you AT LEAST admit that you're wrong about his SPEED?

 

[radballs.]

My head to head record against LHUCKS in two leagues this year.Omega: Me 1 - LHUCKS 0FBG Forum Challenge League: Me 1 - LHUCKS 0I'll let you be my expert sidekick, LHUCKS.

 

[Carnifex]

Longtime lurker, new poster.LHUCKS is my new hero.To stand up this kind of abuse is awe inspiring.BTW C. Brown 1250 yards, 9 TDs at the end.

 

[Gordon Keith]

Longtime lurker, new poster.LHUCKS is my new hero.To stand up this kind of abuse is awe inspiring.BTW C. Brown 1250 yards, 9 TDs at the end.

Abuse he has totally brought on himself...when will the madness end ???

 

[Yah_Shoor_Yoobetchya]

I AM AN IMPORTANT READER OF THIS THREAD!

 

[Colin Dowling]

I'm not here to sell advice...I give it to many for free.

Luckily, most of us have learned to ignore you.

 

[Mr. Mojo]

I can respect you LHUCKS but you lose points when you post comments like this:

Frankly I am one of the best drafters on this board of those that I have evaluated...and that is taking the most objective approach possible.   

I have no problem being the NY Yankees of this messageboard...what I will never be is the Chicago Cubs.

Comments like those tend to not go over very well around here. It comes very close to another infamous quote:

"I'm an important person around here". 

Exactly what I said earlier.He tried the same change the subject strategy on my thread, too.