Chris Ivory (1 Viewer)

[Ojaays]

Pick up Ridley now. Ivory will be banged up again soon.

Pick up Ridley, but maybe because Powell has exited with a groin.

 

[Kenny Powers]

They aren't shy about using him so far. I always welcome more fantasy points but I kinda hope they shut him down soon just to keep him healthy.

My magic football competition this week also hopes they shut him down

 

[Manster]

if he can stay healthy, hes got top 5 potential. Beast!

 

[Faust]

Jets already have a winning blueprint: His name is Chris Ivory

 

[Church of Iggy Pop]

I'm holding my nose and starting Ivory over Lamar Miller. Hoping trends continue and Miami implodes.

Oh, thank goodness I made the right call here. To think, I almost flipped a coin. Despite all the stories and Twitter takes, I just couldn't believe how bad Miami looked until I saw it with my own eyes.

 

[FF Ninja]

Start him this week, he'll be fine and likely put up some nice numbers vs. a reeling MIA defense. Assuming he puts up said nice numbers, sell him almost immediately after.

Agree, trying to package John Brown and Ivory for L.Miller. Hoping Miller has another low scoring result this week.

Well, looks like you got your wish. I'm sure the Miller owner would accept instantly if you make the proposal. I advise against it.

I'm thinking the smart move will be to trade him for someone like dion Lewis and keeping bilal Powell. If the injury prone ivory is out, bilal Powell is a 3 down back that gets receptions. Even when Ivory is healthy Powell has been getting about 30% of the carries and just about all the receptions. They only worry with Powell is the utilization of Ridley when he's off PUP

Of course that's the smart move, but no one is going to trade you Dion Lewis for Chris Ivory.

You would trade Ivory for Lewis?! I would not. Blount could dominate touches at any point. Ivory is clearly the better runner and the main RB when healthy. His upside and floor are much better week-to-week. It's just a matter of being healthy. I'm not losing any sleep over Powell getting mop up and blocking snaps.

Blount did not see any carries until the game was already a blowout and Lewis was rested in the second half. I'm a believer in Lewis based on what I've seen so far and I play in ppr leagues (so that skews my view a bit).

What you say is true for that one game, but we all know how fickle BB is. I try not to play PPR, but even in PPR I prefer Ivory. They did try to pass to him a couple times but they were horrible throws. I think normally we'll be seeing 1-3 rec for Ivory and 4-5 for Lewis. I'd rather have the goal line carries... although Stacy getting that one was disappointing - but he did kind of earn it.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

I'm thinking the smart move will be to trade him for someone like dion Lewis and keeping bilal Powell. If the injury prone ivory is out, bilal Powell is a 3 down back that gets receptions. Even when Ivory is healthy Powell has been getting about 30% of the carries and just about all the receptions. They only worry with Powell is the utilization of Ridley when he's off PUP

Of course that's the smart move, but no one is going to trade you Dion Lewis for Chris Ivory.

You would trade Ivory for Lewis?! I would not. Blount could dominate touches at any point. Ivory is clearly the better runner and the main RB when healthy. His upside and floor are much better week-to-week. It's just a matter of being healthy. I'm not losing any sleep over Powell getting mop up and blocking snaps.

Blount did not see any carries until the game was already a blowout and Lewis was rested in the second half. I'm a believer in Lewis based on what I've seen so far and I play in ppr leagues (so that skews my view a bit).

What you say is true for that one game, but we all know how fickle BB is. I try not to play PPR, but even in PPR I prefer Ivory. They did try to pass to him a couple times but they were horrible throws. I think normally we'll be seeing 1-3 rec for Ivory and 4-5 for Lewis. I'd rather have the goal line carries... although Stacy getting that one was disappointing - but he did kind of earn it.

Lewis was getting goal-line carries in the first half and, yes BB is fickle, but he's also the best in the business at taking advantage of what he has and adapting his offenses around his most talented players.

I think he loves what he has in Lewis, based on what we've seen so far. He did not pull him from the game(s) where he fumbled (of course perhaps Lewis will not want to make a habit of it) and in last week's blowout the only two players that were pulled in the second half were Lewis and Gronkowski, which tells me those are the guys Billy knows he doesn't want to lose - Brady was also pulled but not until very late in 4Q.

I love Ivory as an NFL player and his fantasy value has increased with him getting some passes and the Jets offense looking much better and creating more scoring opportunities than they have in past seasons - but I just think Lewis has much more upside, even beyond the spectre of Ivory's injury history.

I don't think it's outlandish at all to prefer Ivory though, and perhaps my original stance was too strong in saying "no one is going to trade you Dion Lewis for Chris Ivory". I likely projected a bit on that.

 

[Manster]

Shopping ivory around is not a bad idea. I love watching the guy, and having him on my team when he's healthy......but thats just it, he runs violently and gets dinged up.....his value is thru the roof.....someone who's desperate at RB.....

 

[SameSongNDance]

Start him this week, he'll be fine and likely put up some nice numbers vs. a reeling MIA defense. Assuming he puts up said nice numbers, sell him almost immediately after.

Agree, trying to package John Brown and Ivory for L.Miller. Hoping Miller has another low scoring result this week.

Well, looks like you got your wish. I'm sure the Miller owner would accept instantly if you make the proposal. I advise against it.

I'm thinking the smart move will be to trade him for someone like dion Lewis and keeping bilal Powell. If the injury prone ivory is out, bilal Powell is a 3 down back that gets receptions. Even when Ivory is healthy Powell has been getting about 30% of the carries and just about all the receptions. They only worry with Powell is the utilization of Ridley when he's off PUP

Of course that's the smart move, but no one is going to trade you Dion Lewis for Chris Ivory.

You would trade Ivory for Lewis?! I would not. Blount could dominate touches at any point. Ivory is clearly the better runner and the main RB when healthy. His upside and floor are much better week-to-week. It's just a matter of being healthy. I'm not losing any sleep over Powell getting mop up and blocking snaps.

Blount did not see any carries until the game was already a blowout and Lewis was rested in the second half. I'm a believer in Lewis based on what I've seen so far and I play in ppr leagues (so that skews my view a bit).

What you say is true for that one game, but we all know how fickle BB is. I try not to play PPR, but even in PPR I prefer Ivory. They did try to pass to him a couple times but they were horrible throws. I think normally we'll be seeing 1-3 rec for Ivory and 4-5 for Lewis. I'd rather have the goal line carries... although Stacy getting that one was disappointing - but he did kind of earn it.

I still say if you can move Ivory for Lewis, do it. I've followed Lewis closely this year, closer than any other RB really and I feel confident in him as a RB1 moving forward.

That's not to say that I don't believe the same of a healthy Ivory. In fact, a healthy Ivory likely has more upside but I just don't think the dude can withstand the volume with the way he runs. Lewis makes people miss, he's slippery and looks to avoid contact where as Ivory initiates contact..on every carry..with the same amount of fervor each time. Given his history he just feels like a huge sell high coming off of a career game. If I didn't already own Lewis in the league I own Ivory, I'd be looking to make that trade (while possibly upgrading somewhere else depending on how the Lewis owner valued him).

 

[FF Ninja]

Man, that's crazy talk to me. As much as BB may love Lewis, he's probably not going to get a ton of touches each week and could easily put up a dud. Ivory is entrenched in this offense and will only put up a dud when they make him active and don't give him a snap. So Ivory has a higher weekly floor and a higher ceiling. But then again, I'm not as studied in Lewis and I play in both 0ppr and 1ppr leagues with a strong preference for the former.

 

[Faust]

Chris Ivory was YAC machine against Dolphins:

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000550809/article/chris-ivory-was-yac-machine-against-dolphins

 

[tankfrank11]

Start him this week, he'll be fine and likely put up some nice numbers vs. a reeling MIA defense. Assuming he puts up said nice numbers, sell him almost immediately after.

Agree, trying to package John Brown and Ivory for L.Miller. Hoping Miller has another low scoring result this week.

Well, looks like you got your wish. I'm sure the Miller owner would accept instantly if you make the proposal. I advise against it.

I'm thinking the smart move will be to trade him for someone like dion Lewis and keeping bilal Powell. If the injury prone ivory is out, bilal Powell is a 3 down back that gets receptions. Even when Ivory is healthy Powell has been getting about 30% of the carries and just about all the receptions. They only worry with Powell is the utilization of Ridley when he's off PUP

Of course that's the smart move, but no one is going to trade you Dion Lewis for Chris Ivory.

You would trade Ivory for Lewis?! I would not. Blount could dominate touches at any point. Ivory is clearly the better runner and the main RB when healthy. His upside and floor are much better week-to-week. It's just a matter of being healthy. I'm not losing any sleep over Powell getting mop up and blocking snaps.

Blount did not see any carries until the game was already a blowout and Lewis was rested in the second half. I'm a believer in Lewis based on what I've seen so far and I play in ppr leagues (so that skews my view a bit).

What you say is true for that one game, but we all know how fickle BB is. I try not to play PPR, but even in PPR I prefer Ivory. They did try to pass to him a couple times but they were horrible throws. I think normally we'll be seeing 1-3 rec for Ivory and 4-5 for Lewis. I'd rather have the goal line carries... although Stacy getting that one was disappointing - but he did kind of earn it.

I still say if you can move Ivory for Lewis, do it. I've followed Lewis closely this year, closer than any other RB really and I feel confident in him as a RB1 moving forward.

That's not to say that I don't believe the same of a healthy Ivory. In fact, a healthy Ivory likely has more upside but I just don't think the dude can withstand the volume with the way he runs. Lewis makes people miss, he's slippery and looks to avoid contact where as Ivory initiates contact..on every carry..with the same amount of fervor each time. Given his history he just feels like a huge sell high coming off of a career game. If I didn't already own Lewis in the league I own Ivory, I'd be looking to make that trade (while possibly upgrading somewhere else depending on how the Lewis owner valued him).

What about 2qb .5ppr league. Ivory/Dalton/Jo Brown for D.Lewis/Bradford/C.Clay. I have O.Daniels now as TE and not starting J.Brown.

 

[Faust]

Jets' Marshall: Ivory already best running back in NFL

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000557281/article/jets-marshall-ivory-already-best-running-back-in-nfl

 

[GroveDiesel]

This guy is a fantasy monster this year.

 

[ConnSKINS26]

Beast. Hated seeing him tear up my Skins but expected it, he's fun to watch and seems to be doing a pretty good job staying healthy this year. Breakout season

 

[TartanLion]

Looking like an absolute steal in the middle of the draft. For me, he's covering the fact I whiffed on CJ Anderson taking him top of the 2nd

 

[zftcg]

Ugh, sat him for DLewis/Forte, which cost me my matchup.

Forte's on bye next week, but I really don't know what I'm going to do going forward. We can only start two RBs, and it's killing me to have one of these three guys wasting time on my bench. Would love to trade one to upgrade at WR. I'm thinking Ivory -- as much as I love him, he is an injury risk. Still, it's hard to ignore production like yesterday's. And outside of Weeks 2-3 (where he was slowed by injury and then DNP'd), he's produced in every game.

 

[shadyridr]

Ugh, sat him for DLewis/Forte, which cost me my matchup.

Forte's on bye next week, but I really don't know what I'm going to do going forward. We can only start two RBs, and it's killing me to have one of these three guys wasting time on my bench. Would love to trade one to upgrade at WR. I'm thinking Ivory -- as much as I love him, he is an injury risk. Still, it's hard to ignore production like yesterday's. And outside of Weeks 2-3 (where he was slowed by injury and then DNP'd), he's produced in every game.

Keep the depth, start Ivory & Forte until one gets hurt.

 

[C-Bound]

Ugh, sat him for DLewis/Forte, which cost me my matchup.

Forte's on bye next week, but I really don't know what I'm going to do going forward. We can only start two RBs, and it's killing me to have one of these three guys wasting time on my bench. Would love to trade one to upgrade at WR. I'm thinking Ivory -- as much as I love him, he is an injury risk. Still, it's hard to ignore production like yesterday's. And outside of Weeks 2-3 (where he was slowed by injury and then DNP'd), he's produced in every game.

Keep the depth, start Ivory & Forte until one gets hurt.

Yep. I started Lewis over him as well and it almost cost me. I also have Foster and with byes and injuries, having 3 guys is a sweet security blanket to have.

 

[Faust]

The journey of Chris Ivory: Dismissed, discarded and, finally, celebrated

http://espn.go.com/blog/newyork/jets/post/_/id/55216/the-journey-of-chris-ivory-dismissed-discarded-and-finally-celebrated

 

[TartanLion]

Interesting article. Absolutely love watching him run right now. Let's hope he can somehow stay fit all season. Ivory owners - are we thinking about rostering Ridley in the coming week or so ? Ivory has been good but also the O line seems to be playing very well and the WRs can stop the box being too stacked. I'm mulling over picking up Ridley ( who I've always thought is a pretty good runner when fit ) to lock down the Jets running game for the season. Maybe I'm wrong but I very much think he would be the one to get given the keys if Ivory went down in a couple of weeks time/at some point this season.

 

[C-Bound]

With Powell likely out this week does Ivory stay in when the Jets are in catch-up mode in the 2nd half? Or do you think Stacy will eat in to that action?

 

[ahartig]

With Powell likely out this week does Ivory stay in when the Jets are in catch-up mode in the 2nd half? Or do you think Stacy will eat in to that action?

wasnt Stacey active the last two weeks when Powell got knocked out mid game? If so, Ivory was mopping up in those games.... Seems like the Jets realize Ivory needs to be fed 20-25 touches a game and is a damn good closer...... Just really need him to stay healthy.

 

[FF Ninja]

With Powell likely out this week does Ivory stay in when the Jets are in catch-up mode in the 2nd half? Or do you think Stacy will eat in to that action?

wasnt Stacey active the last two weeks when Powell got knocked out mid game? If so, Ivory was mopping up in those games.... Seems like the Jets realize Ivory needs to be fed 20-25 touches a game and is a damn good closer...... Just really need him to stay healthy.

Why would you say that when you obviously don't know and didn't bother to look it up? Why spread misinformation? It doesn't even apply to the guy's question. Anyway, in week 6, Ivory's last touch was 13:01 in the 4th. Stacy had 4 touches before that and he proceeded to get 11 touches after Ivory exited. They clearly rested Ivory and let Stacy mop up. This sheds no light on C-Bound's question, though. If the Jets are in catch-up mode, there's no telling who will be in the game. I honestly could see the Jets winning this game or at least keeping it very close, so hopefully we never have to find out who is the Theo Riddick on this team. At this point they have to realize Ivory is their playmaker, so hopefully they'd want to keep him in the game when down 2+ scores. I imagine pass blocking prowess will dictate, though.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

With Powell likely out this week does Ivory stay in when the Jets are in catch-up mode in the 2nd half? Or do you think Stacy will eat in to that action?

wasnt Stacey active the last two weeks when Powell got knocked out mid game? If so, Ivory was mopping up in those games.... Seems like the Jets realize Ivory needs to be fed 20-25 touches a game and is a damn good closer...... Just really need him to stay healthy.

Why would you say that when you obviously don't know and didn't bother to look it up? Why spread misinformation? It doesn't even apply to the guy's question. Anyway, in week 6, Ivory's last touch was 13:01 in the 4th. Stacy had 4 touches before that and he proceeded to get 11 touches after Ivory exited. They clearly rested Ivory and let Stacy mop up. This sheds no light on C-Bound's question, though. If the Jets are in catch-up mode, there's no telling who will be in the game. I honestly could see the Jets winning this game or at least keeping it very close, so hopefully we never have to find out who is the Theo Riddick on this team. At this point they have to realize Ivory is their playmaker, so hopefully they'd want to keep him in the game when down 2+ scores. I imagine pass blocking prowess will dictate, though.

Honestly without Powell (who frankly isn't even that great in the role) the Jets really have no third down back. They'd probably just keep whichever back was working that series in the game on third downs. Ivory has shown he's capable of catching the ball out of the backfield but Stacy may have a little more complete skillset. Ridley may be back this week further muddying up things (more for handcuff purposes, Ivory is in no danger of losing work).

And yes, Stacy has clearly been worked in the last two weeks as the "mop up" back. Obviously it's not because he's the better "closer" but strictly to preserve Ivory's health.

If the Jets needed to be in catch-up mode this week, they may just go with 4 WR sets and not use either back, but like Ninja says, it's likely that this game can remain close.

 

[Swing 51]

So will Ridley be the new cuff to Ivory? Maybe that is unknown?

 

[TheDirtyWord]

Couple of observations on Ivory.

1) Despite the fact that Ivory has clearly assumed primary RB1 duties in NY, the Jets are making sure to monitor his snap count. At 38/game, that would pace him for 570 over the full season (15 games). That would have placed him 15th amongst RB's in 2014.

2) His touch percentage when on the field is EXTREMELY high (58.6%). Pretty good indicator that when he's on the field, he'll be getting the ball. What was encouraging about Sun was Ivory's involvement in the passing game with 3 receptions. With Ivory having exploded on the main stage of NY and garnering fantastic reviews, if/when defenses now key on him to stop him, allowing Ivory to do some of his damage in the passing game could provide for some easy yard opps. It was mentioned alot this off-season and in TC that Ivory had really worked on this aspect of his game. And while Powell when healthy is still the 3rd down RB, the notion that the Jets are now seeing what Ivory can do out of the backfield on 1st/2nd down is intriguing.

 

[ahartig]

With Powell likely out this week does Ivory stay in when the Jets are in catch-up mode in the 2nd half? Or do you think Stacy will eat in to that action?

wasnt Stacey active the last two weeks when Powell got knocked out mid game? If so, Ivory was mopping up in those games.... Seems like the Jets realize Ivory needs to be fed 20-25 touches a game and is a damn good closer...... Just really need him to stay healthy.

Why would you say that when you obviously don't know and didn't bother to look it up? Why spread misinformation? It doesn't even apply to the guy's question. Anyway, in week 6, Ivory's last touch was 13:01 in the 4th. Stacy had 4 touches before that and he proceeded to get 11 touches after Ivory exited. They clearly rested Ivory and let Stacy mop up. This sheds no light on C-Bound's question, though. If the Jets are in catch-up mode, there's no telling who will be in the game. I honestly could see the Jets winning this game or at least keeping it very close, so hopefully we never have to find out who is the Theo Riddick on this team. At this point they have to realize Ivory is their playmaker, so hopefully they'd want to keep him in the game when down 2+ scores. I imagine pass blocking prowess will dictate, though.

Ivory mopped up against the Dolphins, I watched the entire game.

Wasn't able to watch the Redskins game but i assumed (incorrectly) that he did given his yardage total. My bad, apologies for spreading misinformation.

I also misinterpreted C-guys question, so again my apologies. I swear I feel like I'm walking on eggshells sometimes in these threads.

To your point and C-bounds questions, we don't really know who the catchup guys is as if I recall correctly, Ivory was out the only game they were in "Catch-up" mode against the eagles. We can only hope they turn to Ivory because from the Washington game highlights I saw, he looked pretty electric catching the ball in space and their was a lot of chatter about how he had improved his catching skills in pre-season/training camp.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Ivory mopped up against the Dolphins, I watched the entire game.

The Jets kind of let Miami back into the game late so there was no real mop up duty - but Stacy did see a lot of work in the late third and early fourth. Ivory did finish up the game when the Phins were within two scores and had nearly gotten it to a 7 or 8 point game but failed to get into the endzone from inside the five.

 

[FF Ninja]

With Powell likely out this week does Ivory stay in when the Jets are in catch-up mode in the 2nd half? Or do you think Stacy will eat in to that action?

wasnt Stacey active the last two weeks when Powell got knocked out mid game? If so, Ivory was mopping up in those games.... Seems like the Jets realize Ivory needs to be fed 20-25 touches a game and is a damn good closer...... Just really need him to stay healthy.

Why would you say that when you obviously don't know and didn't bother to look it up? Why spread misinformation? It doesn't even apply to the guy's question. Anyway, in week 6, Ivory's last touch was 13:01 in the 4th. Stacy had 4 touches before that and he proceeded to get 11 touches after Ivory exited. They clearly rested Ivory and let Stacy mop up. This sheds no light on C-Bound's question, though. If the Jets are in catch-up mode, there's no telling who will be in the game. I honestly could see the Jets winning this game or at least keeping it very close, so hopefully we never have to find out who is the Theo Riddick on this team. At this point they have to realize Ivory is their playmaker, so hopefully they'd want to keep him in the game when down 2+ scores. I imagine pass blocking prowess will dictate, though.

Ivory mopped up against the Dolphins, I watched the entire game.

Wasn't able to watch the Redskins game but i assumed (incorrectly) that he did given his yardage total. My bad, apologies for spreading misinformation.

I also misinterpreted C-guys question, so again my apologies. I swear I feel like I'm walking on eggshells sometimes in these threads.

To your point and C-bounds questions, we don't really know who the catchup guys is as if I recall correctly, Ivory was out the only game they were in "Catch-up" mode against the eagles. We can only hope they turn to Ivory because from the Washington game highlights I saw, he looked pretty electric catching the ball in space and their was a lot of chatter about how he had improved his catching skills in pre-season/training camp.

And I feel like people post stuff just to read their own words (the writing equivalent of "hearing yourself talk"). If you didn't watch the game then why bother making a matter-of-fact statement about what occurred? Baffling. Also, see what Dr. Octopus said about the game you supposedly watched all of.

 

[Chaka]

I could swear that FF Ninja used to be friendlier.

He is correct that it is probably best not to post certain things if you are uncertain as to the facts (because it adds confusion to a game that is already rife with incomplete information) but it just seems to me that there are nicer ways to tell people those things.

 

[FF Ninja]

I could swear that FF Ninja used to be friendlier.

He is correct that it is probably best not to post certain things if you are uncertain as to the facts (because it adds confusion to a game that is already rife with incomplete information) but it just seems to me that there are nicer ways to tell people those things.

This forum just wears on me. So many people posting for no reason at all. I mean, it's bad enough that every player thread is rife with "I just dropped player X for him" or "he's in my lineup this week" but it crosses from annoying to baffling when people post information as a fact that they don't actually have a clue about. I mean, what's the motivation? If I don't know something, I either look it up or let someone else answer. I don't know what would possess a person to just make up information and pass it off as fact. It is a step beyond useless and actually crosses into negative productivity.

 

[Chaka]

I could swear that FF Ninja used to be friendlier.

He is correct that it is probably best not to post certain things if you are uncertain as to the facts (because it adds confusion to a game that is already rife with incomplete information) but it just seems to me that there are nicer ways to tell people those things.

This forum just wears on me. So many people posting for no reason at all. I mean, it's bad enough that every player thread is rife with "I just dropped player X for him" or "he's in my lineup this week" but it crosses from annoying to baffling when people post information as a fact that they don't actually have a clue about. I mean, what's the motivation? If I don't know something, I either look it up or let someone else answer. I don't know what would possess a person to just make up information and pass it off as fact. It is a step beyond useless and actually crosses into negative productivity.

It seems that he was merely posting his perception based upon the Miami game. Not great info and I am happy you and Doc Oc corrected him, it just makes me sad when people seem to get so agitated and borderline aggressive about our magical football game.

No worries either way, just an observation.

 

[ahartig]

I could swear that FF Ninja used to be friendlier.

He is correct that it is probably best not to post certain things if you are uncertain as to the facts (because it adds confusion to a game that is already rife with incomplete information) but it just seems to me that there are nicer ways to tell people those things.

This forum just wears on me. So many people posting for no reason at all. I mean, it's bad enough that every player thread is rife with "I just dropped player X for him" or "he's in my lineup this week" but it crosses from annoying to baffling when people post information as a fact that they don't actually have a clue about. I mean, what's the motivation? If I don't know something, I either look it up or let someone else answer. I don't know what would possess a person to just make up information and pass it off as fact. It is a step beyond useless and actually crosses into negative productivity.

I come to these forums to disconnect for a bit and read/debate with other fellow FF enthusiasts, I admitted to my mistake. Agree with Chaka, I don't want to sit here, hold hands, and sing kumbaya, but a little overall respect goes a long way. One of the main reasons I come to these forums is just that, most everyone seems to treat each other with respect (this does NOT include the C-mike thread, although it has gotten better recently). I'm sure your a decent guy FF Ninja, sorry my post hit the wrong cord. I will be sure to research my claims better before posting.

Onto bigger and better things..... I think Ivory is gonna crush it this week and with Powell looking like he is out, I wouldn't be surprised if he gets 3-5 receptions as well. it's a little annoying that yahoo isn't showing Ivory the respect he deserves in projections (14 points in 0.5 PPR). Seems like he should be around 16-19 based on his three healthy games with full workloads (20+ touches).

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Onto bigger and better things..... I think Ivory is gonna crush it this week and with Powell looking like he is out, I wouldn't be surprised if he gets 3-5 receptions as well. it's a little annoying that yahoo isn't showing Ivory the respect he deserves in projections (14 points in 0.5 PPR). Seems like he should be around 16-19 based on his three healthy games with full workloads (20+ touches).

My concern would be that Belichick usually game plans to try and take the opposing team's best player out of the game so I can see the Pats plan to load the box and dare Fitzpatrick to beat them - which is a little easier to do when you consider that the Jets only have two players in the passing game to worry about.

I don't think they can totally shut Ivory down, but I think that's where the effort will be focused.

 

[FF Ninja]

Yeah, I wasn't trying to continue on your case. I was just explaining my (potentially irrational) irritation about the forum in general to Chaka.

I think yahoo's projections are based on profootballfocus. I never give them much credence. New England is giving up 4.9 YPC (4th worst) to opposing rushers so Ivory does appear to be the Jets' best option for success. Would be nice to see him get more receptions, but his season high is 3 targets even though Powell only played 8 snaps each of the last two weeks. Wouldn't advise banking on any more than that.

 

[shadrap]

Onto bigger and better things..... I think Ivory is gonna crush it this week and with Powell looking like he is out, I wouldn't be surprised if he gets 3-5 receptions as well. it's a little annoying that yahoo isn't showing Ivory the respect he deserves in projections (14 points in 0.5 PPR). Seems like he should be around 16-19 based on his three healthy games with full workloads (20+ touches).

My concern would be that Belichick usually game plans to try and take the opposing team's best player out of the game so I can see the Pats plan to load the box and dare Fitzpatrick to beat them - which is a little easier to do when you consider that the Jets only have two players in the passing game to worry about.

I don't think they can totally shut Ivory down, but I think that's where the effort will be focused.

Correct!

 

[LT21]

Onto bigger and better things..... I think Ivory is gonna crush it this week and with Powell looking like he is out, I wouldn't be surprised if he gets 3-5 receptions as well. it's a little annoying that yahoo isn't showing Ivory the respect he deserves in projections (14 points in 0.5 PPR). Seems like he should be around 16-19 based on his three healthy games with full workloads (20+ touches).

My concern would be that Belichick usually game plans to try and take the opposing team's best player out of the game so I can see the Pats plan to load the box and I have been somewhat impressed by Fitzpatrick this year and Marshall and Decker have shown this year and in the past that they have the ability to consistently get open against 1 on 1 coverage. I think Fitzpatrick has shown that he has the ability to take advantage of single coverage which is what would happen if the Pats consistently put 8 in the box to stop the run.

I'm not a Jets fan and honestly have not watched an entire Jets game but from what I've seen, I've been somewhat impressed with Fitzpatrick's ability to find Marshall and Decker. If the Pats played 8 in the box and left the WRs in single coverage, I think Fitz has shown that he will be able to hit the WRs.

Both Marshall and Decker have the skillset to go deep and I think the Jets like their chances with either of them 1 on 1 deep. Thus, I don't see the Pats stacking the box as much as some have suggested.

Despite thinking that Ivory will have better numbers than most this week, I still can't find a way to play him and have him on my bench in a 2 RB + 1 Flex setup but only due to having taken AP #1, Foster in the mid rounds and D. Freeman late.

 

[Ghost Rider]

Onto bigger and better things..... I think Ivory is gonna crush it this week and with Powell looking like he is out, I wouldn't be surprised if he gets 3-5 receptions as well. it's a little annoying that yahoo isn't showing Ivory the respect he deserves in projections (14 points in 0.5 PPR). Seems like he should be around 16-19 based on his three healthy games with full workloads (20+ touches).

My concern would be that Belichick usually game plans to try and take the opposing team's best player out of the game so I can see the Pats plan to load the box and dare Fitzpatrick to beat them - which is a little easier to do when you consider that the Jets only have two players in the passing game to worry about.

I don't think they can totally shut Ivory down, but I think that's where the effort will be focused.

Agree. Belichick knows they will give up yards in the passing game if they game plan to stop Ivory, but he also knows that Fitzpatrick is a guy who will throw a bad pick or two if the moment gets too big, and against NE, even just one or two turnovers can bury you.

 

[SameSongNDance]

Onto bigger and better things..... I think Ivory is gonna crush it this week and with Powell looking like he is out, I wouldn't be surprised if he gets 3-5 receptions as well. it's a little annoying that yahoo isn't showing Ivory the respect he deserves in projections (14 points in 0.5 PPR). Seems like he should be around 16-19 based on his three healthy games with full workloads (20+ touches).

My concern would be that Belichick usually game plans to try and take the opposing team's best player out of the game so I can see the Pats plan to load the box and I have been somewhat impressed by Fitzpatrick this year and Marshall and Decker have shown this year and in the past that they have the ability to consistently get open against 1 on 1 coverage. I think Fitzpatrick has shown that he has the ability to take advantage of single coverage which is what would happen if the Pats consistently put 8 in the box to stop the run.

I'm not a Jets fan and honestly have not watched an entire Jets game but from what I've seen, I've been somewhat impressed with Fitzpatrick's ability to find Marshall and Decker. If the Pats played 8 in the box and left the WRs in single coverage, I think Fitz has shown that he will be able to hit the WRs.

Both Marshall and Decker have the skillset to go deep and I think the Jets like their chances with either of them 1 on 1 deep. Thus, I don't see the Pats stacking the box as much as some have suggested.

Despite thinking that Ivory will have better numbers than most this week, I still can't find a way to play him and have him on my bench in a 2 RB + 1 Flex setup but only due to having taken AP #1, Foster in the mid rounds and D. Freeman late.

With the way Ivory has been playing (RB4, 20.6PPG even though he played with one leg vs. IND and put up 8 points), I would think long and hard before sitting him in favor of AP (16PPG) or Foster (16.5PPG). Name value aside, if Ivory were to somehow remain healthy on his 25 touches per game this year he would be put up elite numbers by years end.

 

[FF Ninja]

Would people still be willing to trade away Ivory for Dion Lewis or have you guys come around to realize that was crazy talk?

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Would people still be willing to trade away Ivory for Dion Lewis or have you guys come around to realize that was crazy talk?

I'd still do it - if I let one game (especially where a player was banged up) influence my season long (or in a dynasty even longer term) decisions, that would make me a pretty crappy owner. Like I said my decision was based on ppr leagues and all of my other logic still stands. I love Ivory as a real NFL player and the Jets offense is finally efficient enough to make him a valuable fantasy asset as well, but I think his ceiling is somewhat capped. He can't rush for 140+ yards every game, and is still adding nothing in the passing game.

Don't get me wrong, it's far from a no-brainer and like I said earlier if some one favors the Ivory side I don't think they are crazy at all.

And before some one wants to bring up "Blount games" they may want to take a look at the snap counts from this last game and may want to admit that Blount's scores were a little fluky - especially since that was his first career receiving TD. I started Blount in one league so I'll take it, but I don't think the two backs cannibalize each other at all.

 

[FF Ninja]

I've always assumed the hypothetical trade was redraft. And to me, I'm not knocking Lewis for his last game at all, just weighing what Ivory has done when healthy. He appears to be the most consistent due to volume and highest upside. For redraft, I don't think there's much comparison between the two, even in PPR.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

I've always assumed the hypothetical trade was redraft. And to me, I'm not knocking Lewis for his last game at all, just weighing what Ivory has done when healthy. He appears to be the most consistent due to volume and highest upside. For redraft, I don't think there's much comparison between the two, even in PPR.

In ppr, Lewis is ranked as RB6 with 87.7 points and Ivory as RB11 with 82.2 points, both have already had their bye week, but Ivory has missed one game due to injury so his per game average puts him high than Lewis' 20.55 ppg v. 17.54 ppg.

Right now the difference is fairly insignificant.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

I'm not a Jets fan and honestly have not watched an entire Jets game but from what I've seen, I've been somewhat impressed with Fitzpatrick's ability to find Marshall and Decker. If the Pats played 8 in the box and left the WRs in single coverage, I think Fitz has shown that he will be able to hit the WRs.

Both Marshall and Decker have the skillset to go deep and I think the Jets like their chances with either of them 1 on 1 deep. Thus, I don't see the Pats stacking the box as much as some have suggested.

Despite thinking that Ivory will have better numbers than most this week, I still can't find a way to play him and have him on my bench in a 2 RB + 1 Flex setup but only due to having taken AP #1, Foster in the mid rounds and D. Freeman late.

Don't get me wrong I love Fitz' leadership and command of the offense but he's he team's weakest link (which says a lot about how far this team has come). I do think Marshall and Decker can eat up the Pats secondary if Fitzpatrick comes through, but the danger is the defense baiting him into some bad throws and capitalizing on turnovers. I think that's the way Billy boy will look at it.

 

[CanaBuc]

Onto bigger and better things..... I think Ivory is gonna crush it this week and with Powell looking like he is out, I wouldn't be surprised if he gets 3-5 receptions as well. it's a little annoying that yahoo isn't showing Ivory the respect he deserves in projections (14 points in 0.5 PPR). Seems like he should be around 16-19 based on his three healthy games with full workloads (20+ touches).

My concern would be that Belichick usually game plans to try and take the opposing team's best player out of the game so I can see the Pats plan to load the box and I have been somewhat impressed by Fitzpatrick this year and Marshall and Decker have shown this year and in the past that they have the ability to consistently get open against 1 on 1 coverage. I think Fitzpatrick has shown that he has the ability to take advantage of single coverage which is what would happen if the Pats consistently put 8 in the box to stop the run.

I'm not a Jets fan and honestly have not watched an entire Jets game but from what I've seen, I've been somewhat impressed with Fitzpatrick's ability to find Marshall and Decker. If the Pats played 8 in the box and left the WRs in single coverage, I think Fitz has shown that he will be able to hit the WRs.

Both Marshall and Decker have the skillset to go deep and I think the Jets like their chances with either of them 1 on 1 deep. Thus, I don't see the Pats stacking the box as much as some have suggested.

Despite thinking that Ivory will have better numbers than most this week, I still can't find a way to play him and have him on my bench in a 2 RB + 1 Flex setup but only due to having taken AP #1, Foster in the mid rounds and D. Freeman late.

With the way Ivory has been playing (RB4, 20.6PPG even though he played with one leg vs. IND and put up 8 points), I would think long and hard before sitting him in favor of AP (16PPG) or Foster (16.5PPG). Name value aside, if Ivory were to somehow remain healthy on his 25 touches per game this year he would be put up elite numbers by years end.

I am in same boat as I have the fortunate decision between ivory and Mccoy this week.

Seems Bills dont have many passing options and will want to pound the rock.

I am worried as mentioned that Bellicheat will scheme against the run and make Fitx beat them. Butley has shown he can play good man coverage.....

 

[shadyridr]

I have Ivory, McCoy, Martin and Hyde to consider every week. Only one out of the 4 I lock into my lineup without thinking about it is Ivory.

 

[Don't Noonan]

Onto bigger and better things..... I think Ivory is gonna crush it this week and with Powell looking like he is out, I wouldn't be surprised if he gets 3-5 receptions as well. it's a little annoying that yahoo isn't showing Ivory the respect he deserves in projections (14 points in 0.5 PPR). Seems like he should be around 16-19 based on his three healthy games with full workloads (20+ touches).

My concern would be that Belichick usually game plans to try and take the opposing team's best player out of the game so I can see the Pats plan to load the box and I have been somewhat impressed by Fitzpatrick this year and Marshall and Decker have shown this year and in the past that they have the ability to consistently get open against 1 on 1 coverage. I think Fitzpatrick has shown that he has the ability to take advantage of single coverage which is what would happen if the Pats consistently put 8 in the box to stop the run.

I'm not a Jets fan and honestly have not watched an entire Jets game but from what I've seen, I've been somewhat impressed with Fitzpatrick's ability to find Marshall and Decker. If the Pats played 8 in the box and left the WRs in single coverage, I think Fitz has shown that he will be able to hit the WRs.

Both Marshall and Decker have the skillset to go deep and I think the Jets like their chances with either of them 1 on 1 deep. Thus, I don't see the Pats stacking the box as much as some have suggested.

Despite thinking that Ivory will have better numbers than most this week, I still can't find a way to play him and have him on my bench in a 2 RB + 1 Flex setup but only due to having taken AP #1, Foster in the mid rounds and D. Freeman late.

With the way Ivory has been playing (RB4, 20.6PPG even though he played with one leg vs. IND and put up 8 points), I would think long and hard before sitting him in favor of AP (16PPG) or Foster (16.5PPG). Name value aside, if Ivory were to somehow remain healthy on his 25 touches per game this year he would be put up elite numbers by years end.

I am in same boat as I have the fortunate decision between ivory and Mccoy this week.Seems Bills dont have many passing options and will want to pound the rock.

I am worried as mentioned that Bellicheat will scheme against the run and make Fitx beat them. Butley has shown he can play good man coverage.....

I havr to decide between Ivory and McCoy ad well in PPR. I have Ivory in right now but am wavering. My fear is the Jets get behind early and put in Powell/Stacy in passing situations limiting Ivory's touches.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Onto bigger and better things..... I think Ivory is gonna crush it this week and with Powell looking like he is out, I wouldn't be surprised if he gets 3-5 receptions as well. it's a little annoying that yahoo isn't showing Ivory the respect he deserves in projections (14 points in 0.5 PPR). Seems like he should be around 16-19 based on his three healthy games with full workloads (20+ touches).

My concern would be that Belichick usually game plans to try and take the opposing team's best player out of the game so I can see the Pats plan to load the box and I have been somewhat impressed by Fitzpatrick this year and Marshall and Decker have shown this year and in the past that they have the ability to consistently get open against 1 on 1 coverage. I think Fitzpatrick has shown that he has the ability to take advantage of single coverage which is what would happen if the Pats consistently put 8 in the box to stop the run.

I'm not a Jets fan and honestly have not watched an entire Jets game but from what I've seen, I've been somewhat impressed with Fitzpatrick's ability to find Marshall and Decker. If the Pats played 8 in the box and left the WRs in single coverage, I think Fitz has shown that he will be able to hit the WRs.

Both Marshall and Decker have the skillset to go deep and I think the Jets like their chances with either of them 1 on 1 deep. Thus, I don't see the Pats stacking the box as much as some have suggested.

Despite thinking that Ivory will have better numbers than most this week, I still can't find a way to play him and have him on my bench in a 2 RB + 1 Flex setup but only due to having taken AP #1, Foster in the mid rounds and D. Freeman late.

With the way Ivory has been playing (RB4, 20.6PPG even though he played with one leg vs. IND and put up 8 points), I would think long and hard before sitting him in favor of AP (16PPG) or Foster (16.5PPG). Name value aside, if Ivory were to somehow remain healthy on his 25 touches per game this year he would be put up elite numbers by years end.

I am in same boat as I have the fortunate decision between ivory and Mccoy this week.Seems Bills dont have many passing options and will want to pound the rock.

I am worried as mentioned that Bellicheat will scheme against the run and make Fitx beat them. Butley has shown he can play good man coverage.....

I havr to decide between Ivory and McCoy ad well in PPR. I have Ivory in right now but am wavering. My fear is the Jets get behind early and put in Powell/Stacy in passing situations limiting Ivory's touches.

Powell is almost certainly out this week.

 

[C-Bound]

Onto bigger and better things..... I think Ivory is gonna crush it this week and with Powell looking like he is out, I wouldn't be surprised if he gets 3-5 receptions as well. it's a little annoying that yahoo isn't showing Ivory the respect he deserves in projections (14 points in 0.5 PPR). Seems like he should be around 16-19 based on his three healthy games with full workloads (20+ touches).

My concern would be that Belichick usually game plans to try and take the opposing team's best player out of the game so I can see the Pats plan to load the box and I have been somewhat impressed by Fitzpatrick this year and Marshall and Decker have shown this year and in the past that they have the ability to consistently get open against 1 on 1 coverage. I think Fitzpatrick has shown that he has the ability to take advantage of single coverage which is what would happen if the Pats consistently put 8 in the box to stop the run.

I'm not a Jets fan and honestly have not watched an entire Jets game but from what I've seen, I've been somewhat impressed with Fitzpatrick's ability to find Marshall and Decker. If the Pats played 8 in the box and left the WRs in single coverage, I think Fitz has shown that he will be able to hit the WRs.

Both Marshall and Decker have the skillset to go deep and I think the Jets like their chances with either of them 1 on 1 deep. Thus, I don't see the Pats stacking the box as much as some have suggested.

Despite thinking that Ivory will have better numbers than most this week, I still can't find a way to play him and have him on my bench in a 2 RB + 1 Flex setup but only due to having taken AP #1, Foster in the mid rounds and D. Freeman late.

With the way Ivory has been playing (RB4, 20.6PPG even though he played with one leg vs. IND and put up 8 points), I would think long and hard before sitting him in favor of AP (16PPG) or Foster (16.5PPG). Name value aside, if Ivory were to somehow remain healthy on his 25 touches per game this year he would be put up elite numbers by years end.

I am in same boat as I have the fortunate decision between ivory and Mccoy this week.Seems Bills dont have many passing options and will want to pound the rock.

I am worried as mentioned that Bellicheat will scheme against the run and make Fitx beat them. Butley has shown he can play good man coverage.....

I havr to decide between Ivory and McCoy ad well in PPR. I have Ivory in right now but am wavering. My fear is the Jets get behind early and put in Powell/Stacy in passing situations limiting Ivory's touches.

Ironically I am choosing between Lewis and Ivory so I'm sure I'll be watching the "other guy" rack it up Sunday.