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[TheFanatic]

from Rotoworld:

The New York Post says Chris Ivory is sitting pretty as the Jets' feature back.
Mike Goodson's future is unclear following his ugly drug and weapons arrest, and Joe McKnight is reportedly not a favorite of new GM John Idzik. That leaves only Ivory and Bilal Powell, who has averaged 3.72 YPC through two NFL seasons. The Jets are going to have to lean heavily on the run game with their quarterback situation in shambles. Their offensive line has potential to be a top-10 unit in run-blocking. If healthy, Ivory will have RB1 upside.

Source: New York Post

In other news from RotoWorld: Water is Indeed Wet

 

[Faust]

Making the Leap, No. 13: New York Jets RB Chris Ivory

By Chris Wesseling

Around the League Writer

(click on the linked article to see the related video clips)

Around The League will profile the top 40 players we see Making the Leap in 2013. No. 13 on the list: New York Jets running back Chris Ivory.

Why Ivory is on the list
It's no coincidence that Ivory was acquired by Jets general manager John Idzik, a former Seattle Seahawks executive, in an April trade. The player Ivory most resembles is ferocious Seahawks tackle breaker Marshawn Lynch. Ivory is one of the rare backs capable of making the first defender miss, and if the defender doesn't miss, he has shown the ability to run over them.

The video below shows an explosive Ivory going "Beast Mode" on a 56-yard touchdown run reminiscent of Lynch's thundering 67-yard run in the playoff upset of the New Orleans Saints. Longtime beat writer Jeff Duncan called Ivory's run the best by a Saints back in all of his years covering the team.

Jets coach Rex Ryan described Ivory in offseason practices as a player who is "not going to shine until you put the pads on." It's an indication of Ryan's affinity and Ivory's physicality. For a hard-charging runner, though, Ivory is deceptively elusive, thanks to his impressive lower-body explosion. He's just one of a handful of active running backs with a career per-carry average over 5.0 yards, thanks to his ability to shoot through a hole and outrace defenders to the end zone.

Ivory arrives in New York with fresh legs after being underutilized in the Saints' pass-happy offense for the past three seasons. The Jets are expected to install Ivory as their starter, which means an opportunity to double his previous career-high of 137 carries in 2010.

Obstacles
Now that he's no longer buried on a depth chart, Ivory has few obstacles keeping him from success. He did show a disturbing tendency to fumble in New Orleans and often was an afterthought in the Saints' passing game. Although Ivory can make defenders miss after the catch at times, he looked unnatural in the passing game.

Ivory's punishing style lends itself to injuries. While Lynch has managed to stay relatively healthy under heavy workloads, Ivory has missed time with knee, foot, hamstring, groin, shoulder and concussion issues. His penchant for getting nicked up was one of the reasons the Saints were reluctant to saddle him up for 15 to 20 carries per game.

2013 expectations
Considering the question marks at quarterback and wide receiver, the Jets figure to lean heavily on the ground attack this season. The offensive line's strength also is in the running game. It helps that Marty Mornhinweg's offenses have ranked in the top 10 in yards-per-carry average eight times in his 13 seasons as an NFL head coach or offensive coordinator.

Ivory is the heavy favorite to enter the season as the featured back, as well as the offense's most explosive playmaker. If he stays healthy for all 16 games, Ivory has Pro Bowl potential. That's a big "if," though. Ivory's violent running style is what makes him one of the league's most effective per-play backs, but it's also the reason why he's often found standing on the sideline watching another ballcarrier.

Follow Chris Wesseling on Twitter @ChrisWesseling.

 

[ShaHBucks]

How much better will he be than Shonn Green? He is a starting quality RB, but he still plays for the Jets.. How many points can he score when your constantly playing catchup and your offense can't get the ball past the 50 yard-line?

Starts off with TB then NE. I'll pass.

 

[TheFanatic]

How much better will he be than Shonn Green? He is a starting quality RB, but he still plays for the Jets.. How many points can he score when your constantly playing catchup and your offense can't get the ball past the 50 yard-line?

Starts off with TB then NE. I'll pass.

I love this guy. And see him as loads better than Green. But again the situation is bad. But good RB's can do well in bad situations. SJax was able to put up 1,000 yard season year after year for a lot of bad Rams teams. If they are willing to stick with the guy and use him as their best defensive player by grinding down clock and keeping the opposing O off the field, then he could have a nice RB2 type season. I don't expect Lynch from 2012 by any means, but he could have 1100 yards and 10 TD's.

 

[Faust]

Rotoworld:

The Jets reportedly believe Chris Ivory can be a "top-ten back" if he stays healthy.
Health is the rub, as Ivory has been prone to injury since his college days, at least partially due to his fearless, ferocious running style. While not a good bet to last 16 games, Ivory will offer quality RB2 value whenever he dresses this season behind an underrated Jets offensive line. Ivory's current ADP falls in the late-fourth round, behind David Wilson, Montee Ball, and Le'Veon Bell.


Source: ESPN New York

 

[Phenix]

Rotoworld:

The Jets reportedly believe Chris Ivory can be a "top-ten back" if he stays healthy.
Health is the rub, as Ivory has been prone to injury since his college days, at least partially due to his fearless, ferocious running style. While not a good bet to last 16 games, Ivory will offer quality RB2 value whenever he dresses this season behind an underrated Jets offensive line. Ivory's current ADP falls in the late-fourth round, behind David Wilson, Montee Ball, and Le'Veon Bell.


Source: ESPN New York

I hope he shocks the world and stays healthy, if he does Top 10 is not unreasonable.

 

[Lott's Fingertip]

I'm rooting for him, I like a good underdog story... and he was criminally underused in New Orleans last year.

But I do have Goodson in 3/3 dynasty leagues as a hedge (I do not own Ivory, traded him in the one league I had him).

 

[Rushmore]

I have viewed Ivory differently than the average prospect going into the fantasy season. Conservatively, I take the perceived lack of a pedigree, injury concerns, consider his UDFA tag, then look at the short-comings of the offense he is stepping into and tell myself that he's got disappointment written all over him. But watching his tape - albeit limited touches - shows a relentless physical runner with great anticipation, cutting ability and balance. I warm up to his chances the more I watch of him.

 

[DA RAIDERS]

Took him at 1:13 in a rookie draft. My rb situation is pathetic. I'm happy to have him. Ppr

900-1200 yards 6-8 Td's

35-45 catches 300-2

 

[ShaHBucks]

How much better will he be than Shonn Green? He is a starting quality RB, but he still plays for the Jets.. How many points can he score when your constantly playing catchup and your offense can't get the ball past the 50 yard-line?

Starts off with TB then NE. I'll pass.

I love this guy. And see him as loads better than Green. But again the situation is bad. But good RB's can do well in bad situations. SJax was able to put up 1,000 yard season year after year for a lot of bad Rams teams. If they are willing to stick with the guy and use him as their best defensive player by grinding down clock and keeping the opposing O off the field, then he could have a nice RB2 type season. I don't expect Lynch from 2012 by any means, but he could have 1100 yards and 10 TD's.

SJax is still useful in the pass game when his team is down. That is key for picking RBs on bad teams. He's more simular to Green than SJax. I think he will be solid, just not special.

 

[cstu]

Took him at 1:13 in a rookie draft. My rb situation is pathetic. I'm happy to have him. Ppr

900-1200 yards 6-8 Td's

35-45 catches 300-2

He's only caught 3 passes in his career and now his QB is Sanchez.

 

[JHuber77]

Took him at 1:13 in a rookie draft. My rb situation is pathetic. I'm happy to have him. Ppr

900-1200 yards 6-8 Td's

35-45 catches 300-2

He's only caught 3 passes in his career and now his QB is Sanchez.

If your league scores for offensive fumble recoveries, this guy could be

 

[Bronco Billy]

Took him at 1:13 in a rookie draft. My rb situation is pathetic. I'm happy to have him. Ppr

900-1200 yards 6-8 Td's

35-45 catches 300-2

He's only caught 3 passes in his career and now his QB is Sanchez.

Yeah, and the Jets' offense and intended use of Ivory is a carbon copy of the Saints.

Right?

 

[Phenix]

Took him at 1:13 in a rookie draft. My rb situation is pathetic. I'm happy to have him. Ppr

900-1200 yards 6-8 Td's

35-45 catches 300-2

He's only caught 3 passes in his career and now his QB is Sanchez.

Yeah, and the Jets' offense and intended use of Ivory is a carbon copy of the Saints.

Right?

Duh, and why would they put Sproles on the bench just so Ivory can catch passes?

With that reasoning you assume Ivory can't catch more than three passes, and that is beyond foolish thinking.

How many passes has Wilson caught, FOUR, yup, just four... yet they are all over him in leagues.

 

[Bronco Billy]

Took him at 1:13 in a rookie draft. My rb situation is pathetic. I'm happy to have him. Ppr

900-1200 yards 6-8 Td's

35-45 catches 300-2

He's only caught 3 passes in his career and now his QB is Sanchez.

Yeah, and the Jets' offense and intended use of Ivory is a carbon copy of the Saints.Right?

Duh, and why would they put Sproles on the bench just so Ivory can catch passes?

With that reasoning you assume Ivory can't catch more than three passes, and that is beyond foolish thinking.

How many passes has Wilson caught, FOUR, yup, just four... yet they are all over him in leagues.

Not sure I'm as high on Ivory as you. I see a solid FF RB2 with some upside but with a distinct injury risk. But the constant repetition of Ivory's 3 catches in extremely limited work as some kind of definitive judgment that he won't catch any passes in NY has grown very tiresome to the point of annoying.

 

[steveski]

Took him at 1:13 in a rookie draft. My rb situation is pathetic. I'm happy to have him. Ppr

900-1200 yards 6-8 Td's

35-45 catches 300-2

He's only caught 3 passes in his career and now his QB is Sanchez.

Yeah, and the Jets' offense and intended use of Ivory is a carbon copy of the Saints.

Right?

You think the Jets offense has a plan?

 

[Bronco Billy]

Took him at 1:13 in a rookie draft. My rb situation is pathetic. I'm happy to have him. Ppr

900-1200 yards 6-8 Td's

35-45 catches 300-2

He's only caught 3 passes in his career and now his QB is Sanchez.

Yeah, and the Jets' offense and intended use of Ivory is a carbon copy of the Saints.Right?

You think the Jets offense has a plan?

I think if the Jets can make a plodder like Shonn Greene fantasy relevant (with SANCHEZ at QB!) that a guy like Ivory - if healthy - can rack up some pretty solid numbers.

 

[cstu]

Took him at 1:13 in a rookie draft. My rb situation is pathetic. I'm happy to have him. Ppr

900-1200 yards 6-8 Td's

35-45 catches 300-2

He's only caught 3 passes in his career and now his QB is Sanchez.

Yeah, and the Jets' offense and intended use of Ivory is a carbon copy of the Saints.Right?

You think the Jets offense has a plan?

I think if the Jets can make a plodder like Shonn Greene fantasy relevant (with SANCHEZ at QB!) that a guy like Ivory - if healthy - can rack up some pretty solid numbers.

I'm not saying he won't but it's a stretch to assume 35+ catches when he has no history catching the ball.

 

[cstu]

Took him at 1:13 in a rookie draft. My rb situation is pathetic. I'm happy to have him. Ppr

900-1200 yards 6-8 Td's

35-45 catches 300-2

He's only caught 3 passes in his career and now his QB is Sanchez.

Yeah, and the Jets' offense and intended use of Ivory is a carbon copy of the Saints.

Right?

Duh, and why would they put Sproles on the bench just so Ivory can catch passes?

With that reasoning you assume Ivory can't catch more than three passes, and that is beyond foolish thinking.

How many passes has Wilson caught, FOUR, yup, just four... yet they are all over him in leagues.

First of all, Sproles was not with the Saints in Ivory's rookie year. In 2010 Ivory had 137 carries and 1 catch while Pierre Thomas had 83 carries and 29 catches. If you want to hope and pray he gets a lot of catches, go ahead but the history isn't there.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Took him at 1:13 in a rookie draft. My rb situation is pathetic. I'm happy to have him. Ppr

900-1200 yards 6-8 Td's

35-45 catches 300-2

He's only caught 3 passes in his career and now his QB is Sanchez.

Yeah, and the Jets' offense and intended use of Ivory is a carbon copy of the Saints.Right?

You think the Jets offense has a plan?

I think if the Jets can make a plodder like Shonn Greene fantasy relevant (with SANCHEZ at QB!) that a guy like Ivory - if healthy - can rack up some pretty solid numbers.

I'm not saying he won't but it's a stretch to assume 35+ catches when he has no history catching the ball.

35 catches is absolutely a stretch - but Shonne Greene, who also wasn't an adept pass catcher averaged around in 20 catches a season. I think Ivory in what's now a WCO should end up with 20-22 receptions - provided he's healthy.

 

[TheFanatic]

Took him at 1:13 in a rookie draft. My rb situation is pathetic. I'm happy to have him. Ppr

900-1200 yards 6-8 Td's

35-45 catches 300-2

He's only caught 3 passes in his career and now his QB is Sanchez.

Yeah, and the Jets' offense and intended use of Ivory is a carbon copy of the Saints.Right?

You think the Jets offense has a plan?

I think if the Jets can make a plodder like Shonn Greene fantasy relevant (with SANCHEZ at QB!) that a guy like Ivory - if healthy - can rack up some pretty solid numbers.

I'm not saying he won't but it's a stretch to assume 35+ catches when he has no history catching the ball.

35 catches is absolutely a stretch - but Shonne Greene, who also wasn't an adept pass catcher averaged around in 20 catches a season. I think Ivory in what's now a WCO should end up with 20-22 receptions - provided he's healthy.

I would agree to this. He might even get two catches per game and go up to 32 (if healthy). Who do the Jets have at TE now that Keller is gone? He might get some of that underneath stuff too and add a few catches there...

 

[Coeur de Lion]

Mike Goodson is a good receiver and was signed for significantly more than Ivory was this offseason. Bilal Powell is the incumbent 3rd down guy from late last year.

IMO Ivory is a decent bet to lead the team in carries, but I think the other guys will both catch more passes.

 

[cstu]

Took him at 1:13 in a rookie draft. My rb situation is pathetic. I'm happy to have him. Ppr

900-1200 yards 6-8 Td's

35-45 catches 300-2

He's only caught 3 passes in his career and now his QB is Sanchez.

Yeah, and the Jets' offense and intended use of Ivory is a carbon copy of the Saints.Right?

You think the Jets offense has a plan?

I think if the Jets can make a plodder like Shonn Greene fantasy relevant (with SANCHEZ at QB!) that a guy like Ivory - if healthy - can rack up some pretty solid numbers.

I'm not saying he won't but it's a stretch to assume 35+ catches when he has no history catching the ball.

35 catches is absolutely a stretch - but Shonne Greene, who also wasn't an adept pass catcher averaged around in 20 catches a season. I think Ivory in what's now a WCO should end up with 20-22 receptions - provided he's healthy.

I would agree to this. He might even get two catches per game and go up to 32 (if healthy). Who do the Jets have at TE now that Keller is gone? He might get some of that underneath stuff too and add a few catches there...

A soldier.

 

[TheFanatic]

Took him at 1:13 in a rookie draft. My rb situation is pathetic. I'm happy to have him. Ppr

900-1200 yards 6-8 Td's

35-45 catches 300-2

He's only caught 3 passes in his career and now his QB is Sanchez.

Yeah, and the Jets' offense and intended use of Ivory is a carbon copy of the Saints.Right?

You think the Jets offense has a plan?

I think if the Jets can make a plodder like Shonn Greene fantasy relevant (with SANCHEZ at QB!) that a guy like Ivory - if healthy - can rack up some pretty solid numbers.

I'm not saying he won't but it's a stretch to assume 35+ catches when he has no history catching the ball.

35 catches is absolutely a stretch - but Shonne Greene, who also wasn't an adept pass catcher averaged around in 20 catches a season. I think Ivory in what's now a WCO should end up with 20-22 receptions - provided he's healthy.

I would agree to this. He might even get two catches per game and go up to 32 (if healthy). Who do the Jets have at TE now that Keller is gone? He might get some of that underneath stuff too and add a few catches there...

A soldier.

That's right. A soldier with bad knees...

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Mike Goodson is a good receiver and was signed for significantly more than Ivory was this offseason. Bilal Powell is the incumbent 3rd down guy from late last year.

IMO Ivory is a decent bet to lead the team in carries, but I think the other guys will both catch more passes.

I agree with this (well maybe not both but whichever one sees the field more) - but Greene was also never used as a third down back either.

I don't think Ivory has to be all that adept of a pass catcher - or be in on sure passing downs - to grab a ball or two per game.

 

[Phenix]

Mike Goodson is a good receiver and was signed for significantly more than Ivory was this offseason. Bilal Powell is the incumbent 3rd down guy from late last year.

IMO Ivory is a decent bet to lead the team in carries, but I think the other guys will both catch more passes.

Glad the beat writers who watch the team practice and follow the team and get to speak one on one with the coaches seem to think different.

Even though beat writers have been wrong before, when they have the grasp on someones playtime during the season there is a reason. So there is a reason why they say Ivory could be a Top 10 back.

 

[Leonidas]

Mike Goodson is a good receiver and was signed for significantly more than Ivory was this offseason. Bilal Powell is the incumbent 3rd down guy from late last year.

IMO Ivory is a decent bet to lead the team in carries, but I think the other guys will both catch more passes.

Glad the beat writers who watch the team practice and follow the team and get to speak one on one with the coaches seem to think different.

Even though beat writers have been wrong before, when they have the grasp on someones playtime during the season there is a reason. So there is a reason why they say Ivory could be a Top 10 back.

That sounds like a lot of faith in pre-pre-season beat writer talk..

 

[steelcityman]

depends on that train wreck of an organizations QB. If Sanchez, Ivory might struggle to do anything. If Smith, he might get more recs, cause Smith will be checking down a lot. Jets have no WRs or TE to really command the ball. I got Ivory as my RB3, and am happy with that very much. But if he was my RB2, I better have a hell of a lot of good players on my team.

 

[Coeur de Lion]

depends on that train wreck of an organizations QB. If Sanchez, Ivory might struggle to do anything. If Smith, he might get more recs, cause Smith will be checking down a lot. Jets have no WRs or TE to really command the ball. I got Ivory as my RB3, and am happy with that very much. But if he was my RB2, I better have a hell of a lot of good players on my team.

The Jets ranked 12th in rushing last year even with Sanchez -- they have a pretty decent line and a commitment to the ground game, and if one guy gets the bulk of the work there he can be productive. It's not a black hole for RBs like Arizona or something.

I do think Ivory is hugely over-rated talent-wise, but the situation isn't that bad at all.

 

[az_prof]

I love what I have seen of Ivory on tape. He will be a lead rushing back if healthy for sure. His lack of pedigree doesn't bother me because he isn't a rookie; he has already proven he can break tackles, elude tackles, and has a nose for the EZ in the NFL. The only questions are his ability to stay healthy and how much he will be used as a receiver. As for staying healthy, it isn't like he is recovering from a serious injury. I think there is risk, and it should downgrade him, but not as far as some here think. As for receiving, I am in the camp that says just because Pierre Thomas (a good receiving back in his own right) was used in that role Ivory's rookie year, and Sproles has had the role since, does not mean Ivory can't do it. I would be surprised if he doesn't catch 20; and he could easily catch 30 or 40 in a WCO as a featured back. By the way, Goodson is an injury risk too.

 

[loose circuits]

Already hurt

https://mobile.twitter.com/MMehtaNYDN/status/360771785106530305

 

[matttyl]

Already hurt

https://mobile.twitter.com/MMehtaNYDN/status/360771785106530305

Just loosening up for the season. He'll break 1,000 yards easy.

 

[Phenix]

Coaches decision and has been the plan since OTAs, lol, calm down everyone. Problems when people ill informed make posts saying "already hurt."

Chris Lopresti ‏@CLoprestiWFAN27m
#Jets practicing in shells. Chris Ivory on the bike. Not a problem because Rex says we won't see what he's about until pads come on Sunday.

 

[loose circuits]

Coaches decision and has been the plan since OTAs, lol, calm down everyone. Problems when people ill informed make posts saying "already hurt."

Chris Lopresti ‏@CLoprestiWFAN27m
#Jets practicing in shells. Chris Ivory on the bike. Not a problem because Rex says we won't see what he's about until pads come on Sunday.

Ill informed? If the beat writer says "Not sure what his ailment is" does that imply something other than injury? Jason McIntyre even responded with something concluding he's already hurt. These guys get paid for this... I was just posting what I read

 

[Phenix]

Coaches decision and has been the plan since OTAs, lol, calm down everyone. Problems when people ill informed make posts saying "already hurt."

Chris Lopresti ‏@CLoprestiWFAN27m
#Jets practicing in shells. Chris Ivory on the bike. Not a problem because Rex says we won't see what he's about until pads come on Sunday.

Ill informed? If the beat writer says "Not sure what his ailment is" does that imply something other than injury? Jason McIntyre even responded with something concluding he's already hurt. These guys get paid for this... I was just posting what I read

Just because you read something on the internet does not make it true. Same for me, but I believe a guy who went to the coach may have more info, like Lopresti did.

 

[loose circuits]

Manish Mehta ‏@MMehtaNYDN29s
Chris Ivory said he didn't practice due to hamstring tightness. Probably won't practice until Sunday. Says it's precautionary. #nyj

disclaimer: this is coming from someone that is "ill informed"

 

[loose circuits]

Coaches decision and has been the plan since OTAs, lol, calm down everyone. Problems when people ill informed make posts saying "already hurt."

Chris Lopresti ‏@CLoprestiWFAN27m
#Jets practicing in shells. Chris Ivory on the bike. Not a problem because Rex says we won't see what he's about until pads come on Sunday.

Ill informed? If the beat writer says "Not sure what his ailment is" does that imply something other than injury? Jason McIntyre even responded with something concluding he's already hurt. These guys get paid for this... I was just posting what I read

Just because you read something on the internet does not make it true. Also, maybe that beat writer was ill informed as well. After all did he go to the coach like Lopresti did? If you do not know, then yes, that means you are ill informed

so hamstring tightness is not a concern for a guy with his injury history?

 

[Phenix]

Manish Mehta ‏@MMehtaNYDN29s
Chris Ivory said he didn't practice due to hamstring tightness. Probably won't practice until Sunday. Says it's precautionary. #nyj

disclaimer: this is coming from someone that is "ill informed"

Adj. 1. precautionary - taken in advance to protect against possible danger or failure; "gave precautionary advice"; "I would take precautionary steps to keep him away"

 

[Phenix]

Coaches decision and has been the plan since OTAs, lol, calm down everyone. Problems when people ill informed make posts saying "already hurt."

Chris Lopresti ‏@CLoprestiWFAN27m
#Jets practicing in shells. Chris Ivory on the bike. Not a problem because Rex says we won't see what he's about until pads come on Sunday.

Ill informed? If the beat writer says "Not sure what his ailment is" does that imply something other than injury? Jason McIntyre even responded with something concluding he's already hurt. These guys get paid for this... I was just posting what I read

Just because you read something on the internet does not make it true. Also, maybe that beat writer was ill informed as well. After all did he go to the coach like Lopresti did? If you do not know, then yes, that means you are ill informed

so hamstring tightness is not a concern for a guy with his injury history?

Dogs, I understand we are in the same league and you are trying to get him for cheap, so I understand your point to try to create value change. But again, Rex is keeping him out for precautionary reasons until Sunday. Is that hard to understand, or do you know more?

 

[TheFanatic]

Coaches decision and has been the plan since OTAs, lol, calm down everyone. Problems when people ill informed make posts saying "already hurt."

Chris Lopresti ‏@CLoprestiWFAN27m
#Jets practicing in shells. Chris Ivory on the bike. Not a problem because Rex says we won't see what he's about until pads come on Sunday.

Ill informed? If the beat writer says "Not sure what his ailment is" does that imply something other than injury? Jason McIntyre even responded with something concluding he's already hurt. These guys get paid for this... I was just posting what I read

Just because you read something on the internet does not make it true. Also, maybe that beat writer was ill informed as well. After all did he go to the coach like Lopresti did? If you do not know, then yes, that means you are ill informed

so hamstring tightness is not a concern for a guy with his injury history?

Not by itself. Coule be a couple things. Signs if bigger things. Nothing at all. A vet trying to get out of harder drills. Knee jerk is not the way to go here right now. If by Monday he hasn't practiced, then I'm worried...

I'm actually more worried why the guy hasn't pulled down the Saints background from his twitter page. Kaepernick wears a Phins hat and gets vilified.

 

[Phenix]

Plus, he would of been on PUP or NFI if he was hurt right now.

 

[loose circuits]

Coaches decision and has been the plan since OTAs, lol, calm down everyone. Problems when people ill informed make posts saying "already hurt."

Chris Lopresti ‏@CLoprestiWFAN27m
#Jets practicing in shells. Chris Ivory on the bike. Not a problem because Rex says we won't see what he's about until pads come on Sunday.

Ill informed? If the beat writer says "Not sure what his ailment is" does that imply something other than injury? Jason McIntyre even responded with something concluding he's already hurt. These guys get paid for this... I was just posting what I read

Just because you read something on the internet does not make it true. Also, maybe that beat writer was ill informed as well. After all did he go to the coach like Lopresti did? If you do not know, then yes, that means you are ill informed

so hamstring tightness is not a concern for a guy with his injury history?

Not by itself. Coule be a couple things. Signs if bigger things. Nothing at all. A vet trying to get out of harder drills. Knee jerk is not the way to go here right now. If by Monday he hasn't practiced, then I'm worried...

I'm actually more worried why the guy hasn't pulled down the Saints background from his twitter page. Kaepernick wears a Phins hat and gets vilified.

I'm not endorsing selling him, but the fact is he already tweaked his hammy or they wouldn't need to take precautionary actions It adds fuel to those people that feel the guy is fragile

 

[loose circuits]

Plus, he would of been on PUP or NFI if he was hurt right now.

or he tweaked his hammy on day 1, however minor it is it still happened.

 

[Phenix]

Coaches decision and has been the plan since OTAs, lol, calm down everyone. Problems when people ill informed make posts saying "already hurt."

Chris Lopresti ‏@CLoprestiWFAN27m
#Jets practicing in shells. Chris Ivory on the bike. Not a problem because Rex says we won't see what he's about until pads come on Sunday.

Ill informed? If the beat writer says "Not sure what his ailment is" does that imply something other than injury? Jason McIntyre even responded with something concluding he's already hurt. These guys get paid for this... I was just posting what I read

Just because you read something on the internet does not make it true. Also, maybe that beat writer was ill informed as well. After all did he go to the coach like Lopresti did? If you do not know, then yes, that means you are ill informed

so hamstring tightness is not a concern for a guy with his injury history?

Not by itself. Coule be a couple things. Signs if bigger things. Nothing at all. A vet trying to get out of harder drills. Knee jerk is not the way to go here right now. If by Monday he hasn't practiced, then I'm worried...

I'm actually more worried why the guy hasn't pulled down the Saints background from his twitter page. Kaepernick wears a Phins hat and gets vilified.

I'm not endorsing selling him, but the fact is he already tweaked his hammy or they wouldn't need to take precautionary actions It adds fuel to those people that feel the guy is fragile

Duh, thats why you are so certain he is hurt and making sure you attempt to beat that home to help adjust value.

Again, lets not listen to what the coach say or the key term precautionary, lets listen to loose circuits.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

 

[Phenix]

Plus, he would of been on PUP or NFI if he was hurt right now.

or he tweaked his hammy on day 1, however minor it is it still happened.

If you followed sports you would realize he would not be on a bike if it was serious. IT'S A HAMMY, WHY WOULD HE BE ON A BIKE?

Again, I'm sure you will not respond to the questions and just say "he hurt himself."

 

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Plus, he would of been on PUP or NFI if he was hurt right now.

or he tweaked his hammy on day 1, however minor it is it still happened.

If you followed sports you would realize he would not be on a bike if it was serious. IT'S A HAMMY, WHY WOULD HE BE ON A BIKE?

Again, I'm sure you will not respond to the questions and just say "he hurt himself."

where did I say this was serious? You act like I'm advising people to drop him or go out and acquire Mike Goodson which partially negates this since Goodson is taking care of personal matters.

 

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Coaches decision and has been the plan since OTAs, lol, calm down everyone. Problems when people ill informed make posts saying "already hurt."

Chris Lopresti ‏@CLoprestiWFAN27m
#Jets practicing in shells. Chris Ivory on the bike. Not a problem because Rex says we won't see what he's about until pads come on Sunday.

Ill informed? If the beat writer says "Not sure what his ailment is" does that imply something other than injury? Jason McIntyre even responded with something concluding he's already hurt. These guys get paid for this... I was just posting what I read

Just because you read something on the internet does not make it true. Also, maybe that beat writer was ill informed as well. After all did he go to the coach like Lopresti did? If you do not know, then yes, that means you are ill informed

so hamstring tightness is not a concern for a guy with his injury history?

Plus, he would of been on PUP or NFI if he was hurt right now.

or he tweaked his hammy on day 1, however minor it is it still happened.

If you followed sports you would realize he would not be on a bike if it was serious. IT'S A HAMMY, WHY WOULD HE BE ON A BIKE?

Again, I'm sure you will not respond to the questions and just say "he hurt himself."

where did I say this was serious? You act like I'm advising people to drop him or go out and acquire Mike Goodson which partially negates this since Goodson is taking care of personal matters.

Here, you insinuated with a rhetorical question. It's fine to feel the way you do, but I'm pretty certain you do not need to feel as if its serious. Is what I'm suggesting you.

 

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Because this hamstring tweak is of interest to me when it relates to Ivory's overall durability that does not mean I believe it is serious.

The fact of the matter is the dude has a long list of injuries and he's already sitting out practice. However, you want to look at that it's not a good thing. It is probably minor, but definitely not a good thing for a guy that some people believe is a high end RB2 despite his history. I take interest in the fact that he couldn't practice for 2 days in a row to begin camp, but that doesn't mean I am significantly changing the value I have for him. I already felt like he was an injury risk even more so then Murray or McFadden because he doesn't have the track record that they do when healthy