Chris Ivory (1 Viewer)

[Phenix]

con·cern (k

n-sûrn

)v. con·cerned, con·cern·ing, con·cerns
v.tr.1. To have to do with or relate to: an article that concerns the plight of homeless people.
2. To be of interest or importance to: This problem concerns all of us.
3. To engage the attention of; involve: We concerned ourselves with accomplishing the task at hand.
4. To cause anxiety or uneasiness in: The firm's weak financial posture is starting to concern its stockholders.
v.intr. ObsoleteTo be of importance.
n.1. A matter that relates to or affects one. See Synonyms at affair.
2. Regard for or interest in someone or something.
3. A troubled or anxious state of mind arising from solicitude or interest. See Synonyms at anxiety.
4. A business establishment or enterprise; a firm.
5. A contrivance; a gadget.

Because this hamstring tweak is of interest to me when it relates to Ivory's overall durability that does not mean I believe it is serious.

The fact of the matter is the dude has a long list of injuries and he's already sitting out practice. However, you want to look at that it's not a good thing. It is probably minor, but definitely not a good thing for a guy that some people believe is a high end RB2 despite his history. I take interest in the fact that he couldn't practice for 2 days in a row to begin camp, but that doesn't mean I am significantly changing the value I have for him. I already felt like he was an injury risk even more so then Murray or McFadden because he doesn't have the track record that they do when healthy

LOL, K Dogs! Love how we are not supposed to know its you loose circuits, but just admit you want him off me in our league and you are just trying to cause panic amongst other owners in our league who you are competing with for him who check this site, then I will not post in this thread again. lol

Also, do you feel same concern for Foster since he is hurt and not practicing?

 

[Phenix]

Dennis Waszak Jr. ‏@DWAZ7357m
Chris Ivory says he's not practicing today just as precaution for hammy. Expects to be back Sunday. #Jets

 

[loose circuits]

con·cern (k

n-sûrn

)v. con·cerned, con·cern·ing, con·cerns
v.tr.1. To have to do with or relate to: an article that concerns the plight of homeless people.
2. To be of interest or importance to: This problem concerns all of us.
3. To engage the attention of; involve: We concerned ourselves with accomplishing the task at hand.
4. To cause anxiety or uneasiness in: The firm's weak financial posture is starting to concern its stockholders.
v.intr. ObsoleteTo be of importance.
n.1. A matter that relates to or affects one. See Synonyms at affair.
2. Regard for or interest in someone or something.
3. A troubled or anxious state of mind arising from solicitude or interest. See Synonyms at anxiety.
4. A business establishment or enterprise; a firm.
5. A contrivance; a gadget.

Because this hamstring tweak is of interest to me when it relates to Ivory's overall durability that does not mean I believe it is serious.

The fact of the matter is the dude has a long list of injuries and he's already sitting out practice. However, you want to look at that it's not a good thing. It is probably minor, but definitely not a good thing for a guy that some people believe is a high end RB2 despite his history. I take interest in the fact that he couldn't practice for 2 days in a row to begin camp, but that doesn't mean I am significantly changing the value I have for him. I already felt like he was an injury risk even more so then Murray or McFadden because he doesn't have the track record that they do when healthy

LOL, K Dogs! Love how we are not supposed to know its you loose circuits, but just admit you want him off me in our league and you are just trying to cause panic amongst other owners in our league who you are competing with for him who check this site, then I will not post in this thread again. lol

Also, do you feel same concern for Foster since he is hurt and not practicing?

if you believe in Ivory as much as you have stated in this thread, why would you sell and why in the world would I want to buy him from you? Unless you are just pumping up his value to try to get people in your league to offer you the RB2 value that you seek which is just crazy talk to me.

I have my concerns about Foster. Which is why I have Tate, Dennis Johnson, and Cierre Wood on my roster in the league I own him. Although Foster's situation is much different since he's in the same system he's had his whole career and a proven player. Ivory doesn't have that same track record.

At least Goodson hasn't shown up yet. You have that going for you...

 

[loose circuits]

con·cern (k

n-sûrn

)v. con·cerned, con·cern·ing, con·cerns
v.tr.1. To have to do with or relate to: an article that concerns the plight of homeless people.
2. To be of interest or importance to: This problem concerns all of us.
3. To engage the attention of; involve: We concerned ourselves with accomplishing the task at hand.
4. To cause anxiety or uneasiness in: The firm's weak financial posture is starting to concern its stockholders.
v.intr. ObsoleteTo be of importance.
n.1. A matter that relates to or affects one. See Synonyms at affair.
2. Regard for or interest in someone or something.
3. A troubled or anxious state of mind arising from solicitude or interest. See Synonyms at anxiety.
4. A business establishment or enterprise; a firm.
5. A contrivance; a gadget.

Because this hamstring tweak is of interest to me when it relates to Ivory's overall durability that does not mean I believe it is serious.

The fact of the matter is the dude has a long list of injuries and he's already sitting out practice. However, you want to look at that it's not a good thing. It is probably minor, but definitely not a good thing for a guy that some people believe is a high end RB2 despite his history. I take interest in the fact that he couldn't practice for 2 days in a row to begin camp, but that doesn't mean I am significantly changing the value I have for him. I already felt like he was an injury risk even more so then Murray or McFadden because he doesn't have the track record that they do when healthy

LOL, K Dogs! Love how we are not supposed to know its you loose circuits, but just admit you want him off me in our league and you are just trying to cause panic amongst other owners in our league who you are competing with for him who check this site, then I will not post in this thread again. lol

Also, do you feel same concern for Foster since he is hurt and not practicing?

if you believe in Ivory as much as you have stated in this thread, why would you sell and why in the world would I want to buy him from you? Unless you are just pumping up his value to try to get people in your league to offer you the RB2 value that you seek which is just crazy talk to me.

I have my concerns about Foster. Which is why I have Tate, Dennis Johnson, and Cierre Wood on my roster in the league I own him. Although Foster's situation is much different since he's in the same system he's had his whole career and a proven player. Ivory doesn't have that same track record.

At least Goodson hasn't shown up yet. You have that going for you...

I will stay true to my word and not post in this thread again, since you admitted you were you.

Also, you say it's crazy to assume Ivory is a RB #2, is that the same insight that led you to trade Decker and Wilson for Austin?

i have no idea what you are talking about. Is it possible you went off your medication?

 

[FGITLOTR]

Source: New York Daily News - Seth Walder

Updating a previous report, New York Jets RB Chris Ivory (hamstring) did not participate in practice Friday, July 26, because of a hamstring injury. Ivory said he does not expect to miss more than two days of practice because of the injury.

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A hamstring injury cost Ivory most of December last year. If he wants to shed the injury-prone, he needs to get back on the practice field. Those that have been reluctant to take Ivory as an RB3 in the fifth or sixth have more ammo for their case with this news.

This guy is very talented, but I just don't see him being able to stay healthy.

 

[cstu]

This guy is very talented, but I just don't see him being able to stay healthy.

 

[Phenix]

Already back at practice, lol. Here is a picture (From Twitter link belwo) pic.twitter.com/HfEQv9wGcP

He has an injury history, it's not a secret. What's funny is the panic after Day 1 of camp. Were talking about practice, lol. I hope he does not see the field at all, Sundays starting in September matters. It bothers me I see other people freaking out even though all the info was precautionary and that he would be back for pads on Sunday. Lets me know some people who post info overreact and do not care about the real info. Rex Ryan kept him out because of hammy and we was riding a stationary bike, you don't do that if your hammy is in severe discomfort.

No one has to take Ivory in the 5th 6th round, let him fall, I remember one year I got Adrian Peterson in the 3rd round because people were worried about that injury and i remember when people pass on Foster a few years back because of his Hammy. While they are two superb players, they both were pushed aside because of injuries.

Point is don't over react, thats how other teams get the good players while you say, "dang I thought he was gonna be hurt."

Robert ‏@Nacarano1h
Chris Ivory who missed practice yesterday due to hamstring tightness loosening up. #JetsCamp pic.twitter.com/HfEQv9wGcP

Eric Allen ‏@eallenjets1h
RB Chris Ivory (hammy) has practice jersey and helmet on, working on the side with trainers. Pads SUN so maybe an Ivory return to full go?

 

[kface]

He has an injury history, it's not a secret. What's funny is the panic after Day 1 of camp. Were talking about practice, lol. I hope he does not see the field at all, Sundays starting in September matters.

No one has to take Ivory in the 5th 6th round, let him fall, I remember one year I got Adrian Peterson in the 3rd round because people were worried about that injury and i remember when people pass on Foster a few years back because of his Hammy. While they are two superb players, they both were pushed aside because of injuries.

Point is don't over react, thats how other teams get the good players while you say, "dang I thought he was gonna be hurt."

Robert ‏@Nacarano1h
Chris Ivory who missed practice yesterday due to hamstring tightness loosening up. #JetsCamp pic.twitter.com/HfEQv9wGcP

Don't forget its also how you build a losing team when you are counting on a guy that gets injured all the time....the shark move is to avoid guys like ivory unless he falls well into 'value' territory and you are protected otherwise. The other shark move is to wait until the 16th and just draft whoever is backing ivory up...good chance you'll get 10 games out him

 

[Phenix]

He has an injury history, it's not a secret. What's funny is the panic after Day 1 of camp. Were talking about practice, lol. I hope he does not see the field at all, Sundays starting in September matters.

No one has to take Ivory in the 5th 6th round, let him fall, I remember one year I got Adrian Peterson in the 3rd round because people were worried about that injury and i remember when people pass on Foster a few years back because of his Hammy. While they are two superb players, they both were pushed aside because of injuries.

Point is don't over react, thats how other teams get the good players while you say, "dang I thought he was gonna be hurt."

Robert ‏@Nacarano1h
Chris Ivory who missed practice yesterday due to hamstring tightness loosening up. #JetsCamp pic.twitter.com/HfEQv9wGcP

Don't forget its also how you build a losing team when you are counting on a guy that gets injured all the time....the shark move is to avoid guys like ivory unless he falls well into 'value' territory and you are protected otherwise. The other shark move is to wait until the 16th and just draft whoever is backing ivory up...good chance you'll get 10 games out him

Well, drafting a guy in the 5th or 6th does not really mean he is the guy you are counting on, but, ok.

Also, was the shark move to let ADP fall to the 3rd to 4th round last year, what about Charles? Good call on avoiding players like Ivory for people like B. Powell though, that always helps people win.

 

[Leonidas]

He has an injury history, it's not a secret. What's funny is the panic after Day 1 of camp. Were talking about practice, lol. I hope he does not see the field at all, Sundays starting in September matters.

No one has to take Ivory in the 5th 6th round, let him fall, I remember one year I got Adrian Peterson in the 3rd round because people were worried about that injury and i remember when people pass on Foster a few years back because of his Hammy. While they are two superb players, they both were pushed aside because of injuries.

Point is don't over react, thats how other teams get the good players while you say, "dang I thought he was gonna be hurt."

Robert ‏@Nacarano1h
Chris Ivory who missed practice yesterday due to hamstring tightness loosening up. #JetsCamp pic.twitter.com/HfEQv9wGcP

Don't forget its also how you build a losing team when you are counting on a guy that gets injured all the time....the shark move is to avoid guys like ivory unless he falls well into 'value' territory and you are protected otherwise. The other shark move is to wait until the 16th and just draft whoever is backing ivory up...good chance you'll get 10 games out him

Well, drafting a guy in the 5th or 6th does not really mean he is the guy you are counting on, but, ok.

Also, was the shark move to let ADP fall to the 3rd to 4th round last year, what about Charles? Good call on avoiding players like Ivory for people like B. Powell though, that always helps people win.

Adrian Peterson and Jamaal Charles are NOT 'players like Ivory'.

I mean...you can't be serious?

 

[Phenix]

He has an injury history, it's not a secret. What's funny is the panic after Day 1 of camp. Were talking about practice, lol. I hope he does not see the field at all, Sundays starting in September matters.

No one has to take Ivory in the 5th 6th round, let him fall, I remember one year I got Adrian Peterson in the 3rd round because people were worried about that injury and i remember when people pass on Foster a few years back because of his Hammy. While they are two superb players, they both were pushed aside because of injuries.

Point is don't over react, thats how other teams get the good players while you say, "dang I thought he was gonna be hurt."

Robert ‏@Nacarano1h
Chris Ivory who missed practice yesterday due to hamstring tightness loosening up. #JetsCamp pic.twitter.com/HfEQv9wGcP

Don't forget its also how you build a losing team when you are counting on a guy that gets injured all the time....the shark move is to avoid guys like ivory unless he falls well into 'value' territory and you are protected otherwise. The other shark move is to wait until the 16th and just draft whoever is backing ivory up...good chance you'll get 10 games out him

Well, drafting a guy in the 5th or 6th does not really mean he is the guy you are counting on, but, ok.

Also, was the shark move to let ADP fall to the 3rd to 4th round last year, what about Charles? Good call on avoiding players like Ivory for people like B. Powell though, that always helps people win.

Adrian Peterson and Jamaal Charles are NOT 'players like Ivory'.

I mean...you can't be serious?

Yes they are... they are human and they get hurt, talent may be different, but yes they can get hurt and have to recover.

I in no way compared talent, you cant be serious to assume so.

 

[loose circuits]

how has Ivory looked in his return to practice today?

 

[ptsteelers]

 

[Phenix]

how has Ivory looked in his return to practice today?

Did Not practice, everyone should cut him from their teams and refuse to draft him. He is worthless and can't stay healthy, plus he plays for the Jets. #3 RB is a push to say the least as not practicing in the first week of camp shows you are not gonna be ready for Sundays when they need you.

 

[grantsa4]

Doesn't sound like he is practicing today

 

[loose circuits]

how has Ivory looked in his return to practice today?

Did Not practice, everyone should cut him from their teams and refuse to draft him. He is worthless and can't stay healthy, plus he plays for the Jets. #3 RB is a push to say the least as not practicing in the first week of camp shows you are not gonna be ready for Sundays when they need you.

you know I'm not advising anyone to cut him. It's a mess and sounds like McKnight/Powell is with 1st team today. The worst part is, how do you figure out who to cuff him with? Have to roster all 3 back-ups at this point until we know Goodson isn't coming back. That's important because owners will likely need to be prepared for a lot of GTD's

 

[Phenix]

Doesn't sound like he is practicing today

I'm hearing the field was a mess and thats when Hammys can get mess, so Rex said better safe then sorry. Saw it on Twitter trying to find link, dont remember who posted it.

 

[ptsteelers]

From CBS - http://fantasynews.cbssports.com/fantasyfootball

[SIZE=1.2em]Chris Ivory misses practice with tight hamstring [/SIZE]
by Larry Hartstein | CBSSports.com

(1:28 pm ET) Jets running back Chris Ivory is sitting out practice Sunday with a tight hamstring. Coach Rex Ryan said the team will proceed with caution.

"Right now we just want to get him back close to 100% before we put him out there," Ryan said.

 

[Doubtingthomas]

THIS is the guy that gets the attention this year?!?

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

Chris Ivory out again Mon Jul 29, 02:42 AM

New York Jets RB Chris Ivory (hamstring) missed another day of practice with a sore hamstring Sunday, July 28. Jets coach Rex Ryan said he wants Ivory near 100 percent before he'll put him on the field.

Footballguys view: Ivory is already eroding any trust that fantasy owners wanted to have in him to stay healthy as a leap of faith in his new role as a lead back. He's still worth a sixth round purely on risk/reward and RB scarcity, but we want to see him get back on the field soon. The Jets signed Matt Waldman favorite Chad Spann this weekend, so they could be starting to gird for a bumpy durability ride with Ivory.

 

[matttyl]

Chris Ivory out again Mon Jul 29, 02:42 AM

New York Jets RB Chris Ivory (hamstring) missed another day of practice with a sore hamstring Sunday, July 28. Jets coach Rex Ryan said he wants Ivory near 100 percent before he'll put him on the field.

Footballguys view: Ivory is already eroding any trust that fantasy owners wanted to have in him to stay healthy as a leap of faith in his new role as a lead back. He's still worth a sixth round purely on risk/reward and RB scarcity, but we want to see him get back on the field soon. The Jets signed Matt Waldman favorite Chad Spann this weekend, so they could be starting to gird for a bumpy durability ride with Ivory.

Or they could be looking to replace Goodson completely.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Chris Ivory out again Mon Jul 29, 02:42 AM

New York Jets RB Chris Ivory (hamstring) missed another day of practice with a sore hamstring Sunday, July 28. Jets coach Rex Ryan said he wants Ivory near 100 percent before he'll put him on the field.

Footballguys view: Ivory is already eroding any trust that fantasy owners wanted to have in him to stay healthy as a leap of faith in his new role as a lead back. He's still worth a sixth round purely on risk/reward and RB scarcity, but we want to see him get back on the field soon. The Jets signed Matt Waldman favorite Chad Spann this weekend, so they could be starting to gird for a bumpy durability ride with Ivory.

or maybe it's because Mike Goodson has not shown up to camp yet.

I don't know if Ivory will get hurt during the season or not, but a lot of players sit out with minor tweaks and pains during training camp that would otherwise play during the regular season.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Chris Ivory out again Mon Jul 29, 02:42 AM

New York Jets RB Chris Ivory (hamstring) missed another day of practice with a sore hamstring Sunday, July 28. Jets coach Rex Ryan said he wants Ivory near 100 percent before he'll put him on the field.

Footballguys view: Ivory is already eroding any trust that fantasy owners wanted to have in him to stay healthy as a leap of faith in his new role as a lead back. He's still worth a sixth round purely on risk/reward and RB scarcity, but we want to see him get back on the field soon. The Jets signed Matt Waldman favorite Chad Spann this weekend, so they could be starting to gird for a bumpy durability ride with Ivory.

Or they could be looking to replace Goodson completely.

If they could get out of his contract without having to pay him, I think they woul at this point. He embarassed them right off the bat (yes, I know the team is fully capable of doing that by themselves) and is still in some trouble.

 

[Phenix]

Chris Ivory out again Mon Jul 29, 02:42 AM

New York Jets RB Chris Ivory (hamstring) missed another day of practice with a sore hamstring Sunday, July 28. Jets coach Rex Ryan said he wants Ivory near 100 percent before he'll put him on the field.

Footballguys view: Ivory is already eroding any trust that fantasy owners wanted to have in him to stay healthy as a leap of faith in his new role as a lead back. He's still worth a sixth round purely on risk/reward and RB scarcity, but we want to see him get back on the field soon. The Jets signed Matt Waldman favorite Chad Spann this weekend, so they could be starting to gird for a bumpy durability ride with Ivory.

When your next best option is Joe McKnight or Bilal Powell, would you rush back your soon to be stud RB, and really only one you have?

While Ivory has the tag of being injury prone, are we talking about practice? WE TALKIN BOUT PRACTICE? Not a game, not a game, we talkin bout practice.

Maybe people should bail on Dez, he has a past and he ain't practicing, what about Foster, he has an injury history and he ain't practiced.

To all the genius who are gonna say, did you just compare Ivory to Foster and Dez, no I didn't in talent level, but yes when it comes to a teams core piece missing a practice 3 days into camp. The fact that they are missing practice is not a big deal, happens all the time. Especially if this was in season we wouldn't want them to practice at all, or at least I want Ivory on the field on Sundays, none of this effects it... yet.

But some people have agendas to lower value though, we all understand.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

Chris Ivory out again Mon Jul 29, 02:42 AM

New York Jets RB Chris Ivory (hamstring) missed another day of practice with a sore hamstring Sunday, July 28. Jets coach Rex Ryan said he wants Ivory near 100 percent before he'll put him on the field.

Footballguys view: Ivory is already eroding any trust that fantasy owners wanted to have in him to stay healthy as a leap of faith in his new role as a lead back. He's still worth a sixth round purely on risk/reward and RB scarcity, but we want to see him get back on the field soon. The Jets signed Matt Waldman favorite Chad Spann this weekend, so they could be starting to gird for a bumpy durability ride with Ivory.

When your next best option is Joe McKnight or Bilal Powell, would you rush back your soon to be stud RB, and really only one you have?

While Ivory has the tag of being injury prone, are we talking about practice? WE TALKIN BOUT PRACTICE? Not a game, not a game, we talkin bout practice.

Maybe people should bail on Dez, he has a past and he ain't practicing, what about Foster, he has an injury history and he ain't practiced.

To all the genius who are gonna say, did you just compare Ivory to Foster and Dez, no I didn't in talent level, but yes when it comes to a teams core piece missing a practice 3 days into camp. The fact that they are missing practice is not a big deal, happens all the time. Especially if this was in season we wouldn't want them to practice at all, or at least I want Ivory on the field on Sundays, none of this effects it... yet.

But some people have agendas to lower value though, we all understand.

I thought you promised not to post in this thread again

 

[Phenix]

Chris Ivory out again Mon Jul 29, 02:42 AM

New York Jets RB Chris Ivory (hamstring) missed another day of practice with a sore hamstring Sunday, July 28. Jets coach Rex Ryan said he wants Ivory near 100 percent before he'll put him on the field.

Footballguys view: Ivory is already eroding any trust that fantasy owners wanted to have in him to stay healthy as a leap of faith in his new role as a lead back. He's still worth a sixth round purely on risk/reward and RB scarcity, but we want to see him get back on the field soon. The Jets signed Matt Waldman favorite Chad Spann this weekend, so they could be starting to gird for a bumpy durability ride with Ivory.

When your next best option is Joe McKnight or Bilal Powell, would you rush back your soon to be stud RB, and really only one you have?

While Ivory has the tag of being injury prone, are we talking about practice? WE TALKIN BOUT PRACTICE? Not a game, not a game, we talkin bout practice.

Maybe people should bail on Dez, he has a past and he ain't practicing, what about Foster, he has an injury history and he ain't practiced.

To all the genius who are gonna say, did you just compare Ivory to Foster and Dez, no I didn't in talent level, but yes when it comes to a teams core piece missing a practice 3 days into camp. The fact that they are missing practice is not a big deal, happens all the time. Especially if this was in season we wouldn't want them to practice at all, or at least I want Ivory on the field on Sundays, none of this effects it... yet.

But some people have agendas to lower value though, we all understand.

I thought you promised not to post in this thread again

I did, until he wrote a full denial, then whats the point. Hey, sniffer, were you or were you not really wanting this guy recently? lol

 

[Reaper]

Ivory on the field today..... Looking like a potential Pro Bowler If healthy...

https://vine.co/v/hAVgadiJdOV

 

[Phenix]

WHAT? Get out of here, you mean that precautionary measure to let him get a little rest was just that? That cannot be possible he is always hurt.

So many people are hoping this guy fails and/or get hurts, just some bad karma. I hope he brings the pain to them for passing on him this year and go insane on the stat lines.

 

[FF Ninja]

WHAT? Get out of here, you mean that precautionary measure to let him get a little rest was just that? That cannot be possible he is always hurt.

So many people are hoping this guy fails and/or get hurts, just some bad karma. I hope he brings the pain to them for passing on him this year and go insane on the stat lines.

S... T... F... U...

 

[TheFanatic]

WHAT? Get out of here, you mean that precautionary measure to let him get a little rest was just that? That cannot be possible he is always hurt.

So many people are hoping this guy fails and/or get hurts, just some bad karma. I hope he brings the pain to them for passing on him this year and go insane on the stat lines.

S... T... F... U...

Yeah, answering a little sarcasm with that is not cool....

 

[Phenix]

WHAT? Get out of here, you mean that precautionary measure to let him get a little rest was just that? That cannot be possible he is always hurt.

So many people are hoping this guy fails and/or get hurts, just some bad karma. I hope he brings the pain to them for passing on him this year and go insane on the stat lines.

S... T... F... U...

Yeah, answering a little sarcasm with that is not cool....

LOL, Don't you know FF Queen is the only one who can say such things.

 

[Faust]

Rotoworld:

Chris Ivory is being limited to individual drills while nursing a hamstring tweak at Jets camp.
We try not to post injury items unless they're significant, but Ivory's checkered history of durability woes makes this notable. It does sound like Ivory should be back soon. The Jets are awfully thin at tailback with Ivory sitting out team drills and Mike Goodson not at training camp for undisclosed reasons.


Source: ESPN New York

 

[FF Ninja]

WHAT? Get out of here, you mean that precautionary measure to let him get a little rest was just that? That cannot be possible he is always hurt.

So many people are hoping this guy fails and/or get hurts, just some bad karma. I hope he brings the pain to them for passing on him this year and go insane on the stat lines.

S... T... F... U...

Yeah, answering a little sarcasm with that is not cool....

If that's all that prompted it then I'd agree, but it was a reply to his constant barrage hype and drivel. We get the point already. That's why people are asking him to stop posting in this thread. He adds nothing.

 

[Matt Bitonti]

Chris Ivory is going two rounds later than he should be going in drafts because he plays for the Jets. And everyone but Jets fans hate the Jets. But objectively this guy has legit RB1 upside, both in terms of talent and the amount of reps he's gonna get. The health reason is a real fear but if he was on any other team people would gushing about him as a sleeper. JMO.

 

[Phenix]

WHAT? Get out of here, you mean that precautionary measure to let him get a little rest was just that? That cannot be possible he is always hurt.

So many people are hoping this guy fails and/or get hurts, just some bad karma. I hope he brings the pain to them for passing on him this year and go insane on the stat lines.

S... T... F... U...

Yeah, answering a little sarcasm with that is not cool....

If that's all that prompted it then I'd agree, but it was a reply to his constant barrage hype and drivel. We get the point already. That's why people are asking him to stop posting in this thread. He adds nothing.

Do i need to link to posts and threads where I provide worthy info when you just provide nothing?

I can, it's really quite simple.

 

[Phenix]

Ivory on the field today..... Looking like a potential Pro Bowler If healthy...

https://vine.co/v/hAVgadiJdOV

How do you get the video to play?

 

[Air Stich]

Ivory on the field today..... Looking like a potential Pro Bowler If healthy...

https://vine.co/v/hAVgadiJdOV

How do you get the video to play?

Don't worry about watching the video. Its a 5 second clip of Ivory running in a straight line at half speed and putting an elbow into a couple coaches holding pads.Note: I'm not an Ivory hater.

 

[Rolling_akg]

Chris Ivory is going two rounds later than he should be going in drafts because he plays for the Jets. And everyone but Jets fans hate the Jets. But objectively this guy has legit RB1 upside, both in terms of talent and the amount of reps he's gonna get. The health reason is a real fear but if he was on any other team people would gushing about him as a sleeper. JMO.

I would disagree with him going two rounds too late. But that's the thing I see with Ivory more than most. Noone really sees him being a guy who will finish at his ADP. Either way higher or lower depending on your thoughts.

He didn't leap ahead of ingram or PT in NO under two different head coaches. I disregard the YPC since alot of it was garbage when the saints were killing it. Also there will be a few more guys in the box against the Jets than there ever were against the Saints.

Either way it goes alot of people will feel vindicated. Either "see, I knew he would suck/flop" or "see I called the Beast way before it happened". But I doubt many people will say "He finished as a rb2/flex play just like I thought" after the season

 

[Kenny Powers]

Chris Ivory is going two rounds later than he should be going in drafts because he plays for the Jets. And everyone but Jets fans hate the Jets. But objectively this guy has legit RB1 upside, both in terms of talent and the amount of reps he's gonna get. The health reason is a real fear but if he was on any other team people would gushing about him as a sleeper. JMO.

I would disagree with him going two rounds too late. But that's the thing I see with Ivory more than most. Noone really sees him being a guy who will finish at his ADP. Either way higher or lower depending on your thoughts.

He didn't leap ahead of ingram or PT in NO under two different head coaches. I disregard the YPC since alot of it was garbage when the saints were killing it. Also there will be a few more guys in the box against the Jets than there ever were against the Saints.

Either way it goes alot of people will feel vindicated. Either "see, I knew he would suck/flop" or "see I called the Beast way before it happened". But I doubt many people will say "He finished as a rb2/flex play just like I thought" after the season

Ivory is a late 5th/early 6th round pick for a reason. The only way he flops there is because of injuries, which I believe are a legit concern. On the other hand, to me he does not have RB1 upside based on the players around him in this offense and its ceiling, but when youre talking about a RB who should be getting ~65% carries if not more of a team that should run plenty, he clearly has value. I think he is as good of a pick if not better than the RBs being drafted around him (Ball, Bell, Mendy, Lacy, Mathews) but I suspect he puts up numbers more similar to Shonn Greene the last couple years than markedly better than that.

 

[FF Ninja]

Do i need to link to posts and threads where I provide worthy info when you just provide nothing?I can, it's really quite simple.

Yeah, I'd like to see you try. The only thing simple is you. I don't know how The Fanatic doesn't know your schtick yet, but you are apparently well known in the Dickson thread. This post pretty much sums it up.

3. Does this need to be said in every thread? Stop feeding the Phenix troll. Every July/August the dude shows up and ####s all over threads. Just leave him alone and have a real conversation with people about the topic at hand.

 

[Phenix]

Do i need to link to posts and threads where I provide worthy info when you just provide nothing?I can, it's really quite simple.

Yeah, I'd like to see you try. The only thing simple is you. I don't know how The Fanatic doesn't know your schtick yet, but you are apparently well known in the Dickson thread. This post pretty much sums it up.

3. Does this need to be said in every thread? Stop feeding the Phenix troll. Every July/August the dude shows up and ####s all over threads. Just leave him alone and have a real conversation with people about the topic at hand.

Top 20 QBs for 2013 - http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=683641#entry15714751

Top 20 RBs for 2013 - http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=683795&hl=

Top 20 WRs for 2013 - http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=684140

Now show me something you provided that was useful or helpful and that shows something other than you know how to run your mouth without any thought or reason.

I have more to shut you up, but this should suffice.

Now show me something you did FF Queen... I'll be waiting, quite a long time I'm sure.

 

[TheFanatic]

Do i need to link to posts and threads where I provide worthy info when you just provide nothing?I can, it's really quite simple.

Yeah, I'd like to see you try. The only thing simple is you. I don't know how The Fanatic doesn't know your schtick yet, but you are apparently well known in the Dickson thread. This post pretty much sums it up.

3. Does this need to be said in every thread? Stop feeding the Phenix troll. Every July/August the dude shows up and ####s all over threads. Just leave him alone and have a real conversation with people about the topic at hand.

I'll admit I only read the second page of that link, but I thought he offered some pretty solid backing, listing the TE's ahead of him, showing Dickson's numbers and Cook's historic numbers. There was some sarcasm there too, but nothing that warrants this sort of reaction. That being said, I have a very small sample size, so maybe he is a huge DB, but if this is the best example, I think there is some ##### baggering going on from both sides...

 

[Dr. Octopus]

I disregard the YPC since alot of it was garbage when the saints were killing it. Also there will be a few more guys in the box against the Jets than there ever were against the Saints.

I'd say his YPC was inflated more because of his occasional 50 yard runs having a greater affect on it, due to his limited usage than the fact that he was used mostly in garbage time. I don't think he really was used in that role for one thing (when he was active he was generally used in all running situations throughout the game), plus that role would have the opposite affect on his YPC as teams would be trying to stop the run so the Saints couldn't kill clock.

Being in a high powered passing offense obviously also helps create running lanes, but talking about teams "stacking the box" is a little overused cliche at times. I don't want to defend Mark Sanchez, as he's terrible, but his biggest detriment is being a bonehead and turning the ball over. He is capable of moving an offense at times though. If their new WCO clicks a bit it only takes a short pass to beat a defense "stacking the box" for a big play on a catch and run.

As far as putting up similiar stats to Shonn Greene, that's not a bad baseline to use, but imo he's a better back than Greene as he's faster, more powerful and even has more ability to make people miss than Greene.

If he stays healthy he should be at worst a low end RB2 even in ppr leagues with some upside if he really clicks. Sometimes you have to be ahead of the trend on players that don't have a track record. Guys like Michael Turner, Ahman Green and Priest Holmes went on to break out once they went to new teams and were given bigger roles. Sure we could say Ivory is no Priest Homes, but then again Priest Holmes wasn't Priest Holmes until he was.

Ivory is a talented back, who should have a pretty big role for a team that beleives in him. He may fail in that role, surely, but he could also run his way into being a first or second round pick in 2014 fantasy drafts.

 

[Cookiemonster]

If you guys would either use the ignore function, stop feeding the troll or wait until late August when school starts back up, we could keep these threads a lot more readable.

 

[Phenix]

Do i need to link to posts and threads where I provide worthy info when you just provide nothing?I can, it's really quite simple.

Yeah, I'd like to see you try. The only thing simple is you. I don't know how The Fanatic doesn't know your schtick yet, but you are apparently well known in the Dickson thread. This post pretty much sums it up.

3. Does this need to be said in every thread? Stop feeding the Phenix troll. Every July/August the dude shows up and ####s all over threads. Just leave him alone and have a real conversation with people about the topic at hand.

I'll admit I only read the second page of that link, but I thought he offered some pretty solid backing, listing the TE's ahead of him, showing Dickson's numbers and Cook's historic numbers. There was some sarcasm there too, but nothing that warrants this sort of reaction. That being said, I have a very small sample size, so maybe he is a huge DB, but if this is the best example, I think there is some ##### baggering going on from both sides...

I tell it like it is. People think you have to be nice to possess knowledge, I am not nice when it comes to football, if someone is a fool I will tell them, they get upset... its how it is. But I backup my talk and others get angry and respond with Troll, blah blah blah. in fact being nice and interacting on a message gets you where? Has it got you any further than me?

Funny still waiting for any useful post link from FF Queen, while I provided at least 3 write up and have many more ready just incase the real troll wnats to open his mouth.

Funny, I do not discuss football the way you like and have provided many useful things to this site, then you get angry make "####" post as if that was useful and the definition of what a troll does, then u get angry then someone else with a reasonable mind called u out for it, yet I'm the troll? comical.

 

[Phenix]

If you guys would either use the ignore function, stop feeding the troll or wait until late August when school starts back up, we could keep these threads a lot more readable.

Does anyone even understand the definition of what a troll is?

This is the exact kind of post and definition of what a troll does, no information or discussion on the topic provided, yet I provide information and reasonable assessment with well thought out info, hmmm.

 

[Tau837]

I disregard the YPC since alot of it was garbage when the saints were killing it. Also there will be a few more guys in the box against the Jets than there ever were against the Saints.

I'd say his YPC was inflated more because of his occasional 50 yard runs having a greater affect on it, due to his limited usage than the fact that he was used mostly in garbage time. I don't think he really was used in that role for one thing (when he was active he was generally used in all running situations throughout the game), plus that role would have the opposite affect on his YPC as teams would be trying to stop the run so the Saints couldn't kill clock.

Being in a high powered passing offense obviously also helps create running lanes, but talking about teams "stacking the box" is a little overused cliche at times. I don't want to defend Mark Sanchez, as he's terrible, but his biggest detriment is being a bonehead and turning the ball over. He is capable of moving an offense at times though. If their new WCO clicks a bit it only takes a short pass to beat a defense "stacking the box" for a big play on a catch and run.

As far as putting up similiar stats to Shonn Greene, that's not a bad baseline to use, but imo he's a better back than Greene as he's faster, more powerful and even has more ability to make people miss than Greene.

If he stays healthy he should be at worst a low end RB2 even in ppr leagues with some upside if he really clicks. Sometimes you have to be ahead of the trend on players that don't have a track record. Guys like Michael Turner, Ahman Green and Priest Holmes went on to break out once they went to new teams and were given bigger roles. Sure we could say Ivory is no Priest Homes, but then again Priest Holmes wasn't Priest Holmes until he was.

Ivory is a talented back, who should have a pretty big role for a team that beleives in him. He may fail in that role, surely, but he could also run his way into being a first or second round pick in 2014 fantasy drafts.

 

[FF Ninja]

Do i need to link to posts and threads where I provide worthy info when you just provide nothing?I can, it's really quite simple.

Yeah, I'd like to see you try. The only thing simple is you. I don't know how The Fanatic doesn't know your schtick yet, but you are apparently well known in the Dickson thread. This post pretty much sums it up.

3. Does this need to be said in every thread? Stop feeding the Phenix troll. Every July/August the dude shows up and ####s all over threads. Just leave him alone and have a real conversation with people about the topic at hand.

Top 20 QBs for 2013 - http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=683641#entry15714751

Top 20 RBs for 2013 - http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=683795&hl=

Top 20 WRs for 2013 - http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=684140

Now show me something you provided that was useful or helpful and that shows something other than you know how to run your mouth without any thought or reason.

I have more to shut you up, but this should suffice.

Now show me something you did FF Queen... I'll be waiting, quite a long time I'm sure.

rankings from the village idiot do not count as providing something useful

 

[FF Ninja]

Do i need to link to posts and threads where I provide worthy info when you just provide nothing?I can, it's really quite simple.

Yeah, I'd like to see you try. The only thing simple is you. I don't know how The Fanatic doesn't know your schtick yet, but you are apparently well known in the Dickson thread. This post pretty much sums it up.

3. Does this need to be said in every thread? Stop feeding the Phenix troll. Every July/August the dude shows up and ####s all over threads. Just leave him alone and have a real conversation with people about the topic at hand.

I'll admit I only read the second page of that link, but I thought he offered some pretty solid backing, listing the TE's ahead of him, showing Dickson's numbers and Cook's historic numbers. There was some sarcasm there too, but nothing that warrants this sort of reaction. That being said, I have a very small sample size, so maybe he is a huge DB, but if this is the best example, I think there is some ##### baggering going on from both sides...

That was not the best example. It just happened to be at the top of page 1. There was a thread about Welker's impact on Thomas and the guy kept saying I was bias [sic] and that I had an agenda. He frequently tells people they have an agenda and even claims they have other names on the forum to agree with themselves when really it's just other people disagreeing with phenix. It's kind of like a train wreck that you do want to look away from but it keeps popping up in every thread.

 

[Phenix]

Do i need to link to posts and threads where I provide worthy info when you just provide nothing?I can, it's really quite simple.

Yeah, I'd like to see you try. The only thing simple is you. I don't know how The Fanatic doesn't know your schtick yet, but you are apparently well known in the Dickson thread. This post pretty much sums it up.

3. Does this need to be said in every thread? Stop feeding the Phenix troll. Every July/August the dude shows up and ####s all over threads. Just leave him alone and have a real conversation with people about the topic at hand.

Top 20 QBs for 2013 - http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=683641#entry15714751

Top 20 RBs for 2013 - http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=683795&hl=

Top 20 WRs for 2013 - http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=684140

Now show me something you provided that was useful or helpful and that shows something other than you know how to run your mouth without any thought or reason.

I have more to shut you up, but this should suffice.

Now show me something you did FF Queen... I'll be waiting, quite a long time I'm sure.

rankings from the village idiot do not count as providing something useful

Yeah, let's just forget that a lot of people seemed to like the threads.

But again you are proving you are the real troll, enjoy!