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OK, fine I'll ask it.

When is Chris Perry going to be splitting carries with Rudi. And then, when is he going to overtake him completely.

Just asking.
As long as Cincy is winning they will probably stay the same. Perry being the third down/ recption back and Rudi getting the carries on 1/2 down.
 
OK, fine I'll ask it.

When is Chris Perry going to be splitting carries with Rudi. And then, when is he going to overtake him completely.

Just asking.
As long as Cincy is winning they will probably stay the same. Perry being the third down/ recption back and Rudi getting the carries on 1/2 down.
Its important to note that from an NFL perspective (not fantasy) both Perry and Rudi benefit from playing togther . They have 2 very different styles that complement each other nicely which gives opposing defenses difficulty in matching up. If either of them goes down, the other will suffer. Additionaly, Perry benefits from having Rudi pound the ball and wear down the D, so Rudi will always be a huge part of the offense, but ultimately they will stay a RBBC.
 
FWIW, Perry is RB21 in my league that awards 1pt/2rec. We also award points for return yards, I think he returned kicks in wk1 (?) anyone confirm this? NFL.com/stats shows their return guy as Tab Perry, and I haven't seen any Bengals games and can't confirm if he is returning.

Anyway, Perry certainly is turning out to be a decent spot starter in ppr leagues.

I can only imagine the buzz if that 80+ yard TD had counted. :)

For now though Perry owners can be content sitting on their potential goldmine.
Tab Perry is a WR on the same team...Chris Perry hasn't returned anything for yardage from what I can tell.I've been digging around on him tonight and have been intrigued. Does anyone know if he's getting carries in "important" situations or is this the "garbage time" and "give Rudi a breather" sort of numbers? I've scanned the play-by-play, but it's hard to tell. The PPR helps in one of my leagues (picked him up tonight) but in another very deep league, I'm looking for sleepers that could cover an injury or RB3 down the road. You know, a consistent couple points with upside for a big play at any time...sounds like he might fit the bill.

 
What a difference a year makes. Last season on this board it was suggested the Bengals had wasted a draft pick on a player that lacked speed, explosion, vision, and well durablity and, oh the horror of it all he played his college ball at Michigan which of course ensured he would be a bust. In a nutshell he was a worthless POS. Bandwagon jumpers.

 
I dropped Moats for him earlier today (don't have RUDI or Westbrook). I'm hoping Cincy leans on him heavily some week so i can try to sell to the RUDI owner

 
I've been high on Perry since before he was drafted into the NFL and have been trying to trade for him since I didn't get him. #####es won't give him up.

 
OK, fine I'll ask it.

When is Chris Perry going to be splitting carries with Rudi. And then, when is he going to overtake him completely.

Just asking.
As long as Cincy is winning they will probably stay the same. Perry being the third down/ recption back and Rudi getting the carries on 1/2 down.
Its important to note that from an NFL perspective (not fantasy) both Perry and Rudi benefit from playing togther . They have 2 very different styles that complement each other nicely which gives opposing defenses difficulty in matching up.
I have never understood this argument at all. As the play clock is running down does Rudi unzip his Rudi costume to expose Chris Perry as the ball is snapped? When they see one guy or the other on the field, why can't they just adjust accordingly.

Mesays it's just nonsense fantasyfootballspeak.

 
I have Perry in my primary keeper league, but in a PPR redraft league, I keep staring at Perry on my waiver wire wondering if I should unload one of the following putzes: Arrington, Barlow, and Mewelde. This is not a who should I pick up post, but rather a comment on how far these other guys have come down vs. Perry's recent rise.

 
OK, fine I'll ask it.

When is Chris Perry going to be splitting carries with Rudi. And then, when is he going to overtake him completely.

Just asking.
As long as Cincy is winning they will probably stay the same. Perry being the third down/ recption back and Rudi getting the carries on 1/2 down.
Its important to note that from an NFL perspective (not fantasy) both Perry and Rudi benefit from playing togther . They have 2 very different styles that complement each other nicely which gives opposing defenses difficulty in matching up.
I have never understood this argument at all. As the play clock is running down does Rudi unzip his Rudi costume to expose Chris Perry as the ball is snapped? When they see one guy or the other on the field, why can't they just adjust accordingly.

Mesays it's just nonsense fantasyfootballspeak.
It helps in different ways, but most important, like other teams with 2 or more good RBs (think Kansas City, Green Bay, Philly?) they can rest while the defense can't. A fresh Perry or Rudi will be a huge asset against a tired defense.
 
Posters (incl. Bloom) are pointing to the fact that Perry is the beneficiary of having no real TE receiving threat on the team. This makes Perry potentially a valuable commodity this year but what about in the future?Looking at the Bengals' drafts they have addressed WR and QB over the last years drafts, OL and DL (IIRC) as well as LBs - they hit with the secondary last year - so what is left for next year?Is the offense geared for a pass catching TE - does anyone know the tendencies of the OC?Considering trading for Perry but he carries a high price for a back up RB in that league so weighing my options here

 
I've been digging around on him tonight and have been intrigued. Does anyone know if he's getting carries in "important" situations or is this the "garbage time" and "give Rudi a breather" sort of numbers? I've scanned the play-by-play, but it's hard to tell.
They are both playing meaningful snaps. Like others posted already, Perry reeled off an 85-yard TD on a reception that was called back on a penalty. Perry's getting a fair amount of PT on 1st downs, too.. so he's not just the proverbial third down back.The Bengals have toyed with playing both Rudi and Perry together because Perry can lineup as a slot receiver and create a mismatch for the defense. I haven't watched the Bengals games close enough to say definitively if they've used that formation in the regular season or not.

 
If he's still there when my waiver comes on Friday, I'm gonna add himI just watched the NFL Game of the week on NFL Network and WOW

 
I just had a great 2 day trading period.....Gave up Carson, Fragile Fred, and Shipp for Rudi. I would never have started Carson (barring injury) and I Shipp is worthless whether starting or not. I now will be regularly starting SA, Deuce, and Rudi!!!!! Woohooo :excited: But then....the next day I gave Chris Chambers for Maurice Morris and Chrisssss Perrrrrryyyyy! Very happy with these transactions! You can applaud now. (or tell me I'm an idiot). :boxing:

 
The question I have is since Marvin Lewis called him his teams #3 wr will fantasy sites list him as both RB and WR?

 
I just had a great 2 day trading period.....Gave up Carson, Fragile Fred, and Shipp for Rudi.
Hmmm tough decision. With Carson's hot start, and adding in Taylor and Shipp, might've been able to get something decent to go with Rudi, but this is the wrong forum for that kind of stuff.
 
I am also a huge Michigan homer. I loved Perry in college and I love him more in the pros. I think his ability as a pass receiver will be used much better in the NFL.I also think Perry will not reach his full potential until Johnson goes down to injury or he hits the free agency market. Until then Perry will give you some good games, but too much inconsistency, as Johnson is a stud who rarely gets injured and is entrenched as the starter.As insurance, :thumbup: As a dependable starter in your lineup, or keeper :thumbdown:

 
I am also a huge Michigan homer. I loved Perry in college and I love him more in the pros. I think his ability as a pass receiver will be used much better in the NFL.

I also think Perry will not reach his full potential until Johnson goes down to injury or he hits the free agency market. Until then Perry will give you some good games, but too much inconsistency, as Johnson is a stud who rarely gets injured and is entrenched as the starter.

As insurance, :thumbup: As a dependable starter in your lineup, or keeper :thumbdown:
I actually think Perry is an excellent keeper in deep keeper leagues (i.e., keep 7 or more). :thumbup: :thumbup:
 
Perry made Pastabelly's Tip Sheet this week:

Link

Backup plan: He told us so and now all the doubters, us included, might be forced to concede that Cincinnati coach Marvin Lewis made a solid move in choosing tailback Chris Perry in the first round of the 2004 draft. The former University of Michigan standout was a non-factor as a rookie, appearing in only two games and logging just two carries because of a spate of injuries. A pair of offseason surgeries to repair sports hernias limited Perry at the outset of camp, providing considerable fodder for the skeptics, but when we visited the Bengals this summer, Lewis was still adamant that the youngster was "terrific."

Through two games, Perry certainly has lived up to that assessment, and looks to be a pretty nifty complement to starting tailback Rudi Johnson. Coming off the bench, Perry has carried 14 times for 58 yards and has nine receptions for 70 yards, mostly as a nickel tailback. Last week, he had an 84-yard touchdown reception negated by a penalty.

Johnson remains a workhorse, on pace for 384 carries, which would break the franchise record he established last year, when he logged 361 attempts. But Perry has demonstrated through two games that, when Johnson requires a breather, the Cincinnati offense doesn't have to go on a ventilator. He certainly looks like the explosive-type playmaker Lewis felt he was getting when he chose him in the first round.

Without taking anything away from the inside power dimension that Johnson provides, the coaches want to get the ball into Perry's hands and let him make plays. That balancing act will be the challenge for coordinator Bob Bratkowski and his offensive staff. No true No. 2 tailback (we're not counting Pittsburgh's Duce Staley, who lost his starting job because of injury) recorded more touches from scrimmage in 2004 than Chester Taylor of Baltimore, who had 190. Perry is currently on pace for 184 touches and, if he gets that many, he is going to make Lewis look very good, indeed.

 
I expect, too, for Johnson's carry count to start declining. He's getting too many. Whether those carries go to Perry or just become pass attempts, I don't know. I do know that Perry's averaging 11 touches a game, many of them receptions (more valuable per touch on a fantasy basis). I wouldn't mind starting him as a bye-week fill-in at all.

 
Coach Lewis:

"The defined role is to get him in the game and get him the football in his hands as much as we can," coach Marvin Lewis said.

OC Bratkowski:

"Chris is an explosive athlete," Bratkowski said. "He does give us those options."(Perry's ability to get outside forces defenses to spread themselves even thinner.)

From another site (competition):

Chris Perry is quickly turning into a coveted fantasy free agent. Perry is Marvin Lewis’ guy, and the second year back is beginning to demonstrate his all-around skills. We believe when a non-starter has been targeted 10 times in two games that he will soon be at the very least, a “co-starter,” in the backfield.

Targets:

Chris Perry 90.0 (9/10)

 
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Coach Lewis:

"The defined role is to get him in the game and get him the football in his hands as much as we can," coach Marvin Lewis said.

OC Bratkowski:

"Chris is an explosive athlete," Bratkowski said. "He does give us those options."(Perry's ability to get outside forces defenses to spread themselves even thinner.)

From another site (competition):

Chris Perry is quickly turning into a coveted fantasy free agent. Perry is Marvin Lewis’ guy, and the second year back is beginning to demonstrate his all-around skills. We believe when a non-starter has been targeted 10 times in two games that he will soon be at the very least, a “co-starter,” in the backfield.

Targets:

Chris Perry 90.0 (9/10)
I saw these quotes last night, one is Bratkowski saying he's the 3rd down back. I understand you were proving your stance and why post that. I just wanted to post the other side of the story. It was something along the lines of he's the 3rd down back and we....one sec lemme get the actual one
 
Coach Lewis:

"The defined role is to get him in the game and get him the football in his hands as much as we can," coach Marvin Lewis said.
"as much as we can"...If they meant as much as they could, Perry would be the starting RB. It seems he is still a year away from taking over the starting role for good. But, he is a very good running back and it's only a matter of time til he takes over for Rudi.

 
Coach Lewis:

"The defined role is to get him in the game and get him the football in his hands as much as we can," coach Marvin Lewis said.
"as much as we can"...If they meant as much as they could, Perry would be the starting RB. It seems he is still a year away from taking over the starting role for good. But, he is a very good running back and it's only a matter of time til he takes over for Rudi.
....because.....They have what appears to be a very successful mix with Rudi as the go-to and Perry in the mix to keep Rudi fresh and mix it up in general (esp take advantage of his receiving ability), so why would they mess w/that? Also didn't they just signed Rudi to long-term contract this year or last? If so, that would tell me he isn't going anywhere.

 
....because.....

They have what appears to be a very successful mix with Rudi as the go-to and Perry in the mix to keep Rudi fresh and mix it up in general (esp take advantage of his receiving ability), so why would they mess w/that? Also didn't they just signed Rudi to long-term contract this year or last? If so, that would tell me he isn't going anywhere.
Yeah, I think Rudi is signed through 2009. These two should be a force together for several years to come.
 
As a Cinci homer, my guess is that by seasons end the split between these two will be closer to 50-50 than 70-30 in terms of total touches per game.
:o :banned: Pray tell how you would assume the split to be 50/50?? :stirspot:
First, I don't have Perry on any of my teams. But there has been alot of talk on local radio (many with Marvin Lewis) that the Bengals intend on using Perry much more than a situational back, and that the Bengals intend on using alot of 2-back sets throughout the season. While he didn't come out and say what the splits would be, it seems to me that they are planning on having Perry take a much larger role in the offense than people outside the city might think. And I didn't say it would be 50-50. I said it would be closer to 50-50 AT THE END OF THE SEASON than to 70-30. :boxing:
This week Rudi - 19 touches ~ 56%

Perry - 15 touches ~ 44%

 
As a Cinci homer, my guess is that by seasons end the split between these two will be closer to 50-50 than 70-30 in terms of total touches per game.
:o :banned: Pray tell how you would assume the split to be 50/50?? :stirspot:
First, I don't have Perry on any of my teams. But there has been alot of talk on local radio (many with Marvin Lewis) that the Bengals intend on using Perry much more than a situational back, and that the Bengals intend on using alot of 2-back sets throughout the season. While he didn't come out and say what the splits would be, it seems to me that they are planning on having Perry take a much larger role in the offense than people outside the city might think. And I didn't say it would be 50-50. I said it would be closer to 50-50 AT THE END OF THE SEASON than to 70-30. :boxing:
This week Rudi - 19 touches ~ 56%

Perry - 15 touches ~ 44%
That's helpful in a PPR league, but in non-PPR leagues I think Perry is still a risk unless the matchup is in his favor -- which it was yesterday and why I started him as my RB3. :) Yesterday's rushing attempts:

Rudi: 18 (75%)

Perry: 6 (25%)

Until Perry starts getting more rushing attempts on a consistent basis I still think he's risky in non-PPR leagues unless he's facing a really good matchup.

 
wouldnt surprise me to see him catch 50-60 balls this year. i like him just as much as marshall faulk.
:) i would say i like him better than faulk now.

 
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traded Rudi/Perry/Pittman/KeyJ for Edge/Holcomb/Stokley/Eric Parker.Couldn't help but think that I will always start the wrong one from here on out.

 
As a Cinci homer, my guess is that by seasons end the split between these two will be closer to 50-50 than 70-30 in terms of total touches per game.
:o :banned: Pray tell how you would assume the split to be 50/50?? :stirspot:
First, I don't have Perry on any of my teams. But there has been alot of talk on local radio (many with Marvin Lewis) that the Bengals intend on using Perry much more than a situational back, and that the Bengals intend on using alot of 2-back sets throughout the season. While he didn't come out and say what the splits would be, it seems to me that they are planning on having Perry take a much larger role in the offense than people outside the city might think. And I didn't say it would be 50-50. I said it would be closer to 50-50 AT THE END OF THE SEASON than to 70-30. :boxing:
This week Rudi - 19 touches ~ 56%

Perry - 15 touches ~ 44%
That's helpful in a PPR league, but in non-PPR leagues I think Perry is still a risk unless the matchup is in his favor -- which it was yesterday and why I started him as my RB3. :) Yesterday's rushing attempts:

Rudi: 18 (75%)

Perry: 6 (25%)

Until Perry starts getting more rushing attempts on a consistent basis I still think he's risky in non-PPR leagues unless he's facing a really good matchup.
That's kind of a weak portrayal of the stats. Since those leagues aren't awarding points for rushing attempts, why not show the yardage they gained. Also, he certainly gets points for the receiving yardage.This week:

Rudi: 83 yards

Perry: 73 yards

Last week:

Rudi: 83 yards

Perry: 76 yards

Even in a non-PPR league, he's becoming just as good a risk as Rudi.

 
For those that have watched Bengals games each week what percentage of their offensive plays is each on the field? Seems like Perry is seeing an increased role as the season wears on.

 
As a Cinci homer, my guess is that by seasons end the split between these two will be closer to 50-50 than 70-30 in terms of total touches per game.
:o :banned: Pray tell how you would assume the split to be 50/50?? :stirspot:
First, I don't have Perry on any of my teams. But there has been alot of talk on local radio (many with Marvin Lewis) that the Bengals intend on using Perry much more than a situational back, and that the Bengals intend on using alot of 2-back sets throughout the season. While he didn't come out and say what the splits would be, it seems to me that they are planning on having Perry take a much larger role in the offense than people outside the city might think. And I didn't say it would be 50-50. I said it would be closer to 50-50 AT THE END OF THE SEASON than to 70-30. :boxing:
This week Rudi - 19 touches ~ 56%

Perry - 15 touches ~ 44%
That's helpful in a PPR league, but in non-PPR leagues I think Perry is still a risk unless the matchup is in his favor -- which it was yesterday and why I started him as my RB3. :) Yesterday's rushing attempts:

Rudi: 18 (75%)

Perry: 6 (25%)

Until Perry starts getting more rushing attempts on a consistent basis I still think he's risky in non-PPR leagues unless he's facing a really good matchup.
That's kind of a weak portrayal of the stats.
It's an accurate representation of how they are being used in the running game.
Since those leagues aren't awarding points for rushing attempts, why not show the yardage they gained. Also, he certainly gets points for the receiving yardage.

This week:

Rudi: 83 yards

Perry: 73 yards

Last week:

Rudi: 83 yards

Perry: 76 yards

Even in a non-PPR league, he's becoming just as good a risk as Rudi.
He's getting there and he's been solid the last two weeks but until he starts getting more carries in the running game I still believe he's a risky RB3 in non-PPR leagues. Look, I like him. I started him as my RB3 fully confident that he was going to deliver and he did. But I still think he's too risky to go with on a consistent basis right now.
 
It's an accurate representation of how they are being used in the running game.
Maybe, but only useful if your league completely neglects receiving yards to RB's.
He's getting there and he's been solid the last two weeks but until he starts getting more carries in the running game I still believe he's a risky RB3 in non-PPR leagues. Look, I like him. I started him as my RB3 fully confident that he was going to deliver and he did. But I still think he's too risky to go with on a consistent basis right now.
I'd also be hesistant starting him. But, I'd also be hesistant starting Rudi. If you're looking at how they're used in the running game, you should consider how they're used inside the 10. Yesterday in their 3 trips inside the 10, Perry was in for 2 of them and Rudi for 1. The play by play:
1-1-TEN1 (:37) C.Palmer pass to C.Perry for 1 yard, TOUCHDOWN.
and
1-10-TEN10 (9:44) C.Perry left end for 10 yards, TOUCHDOWN NULLIFIED by Penalty. PENALTY on CIN-M.Schobel, Offensive Holding, 10 yards, enforced at TEN 10 - No Play.1-20-TEN20 (9:38) C.Perry up the middle to TEN 10 for 10 yards (K.Bulluck, K.Vanden Bosch).2-10-TEN10 (8:59) (Shotgun) C.Palmer pass to C.Perry to TEN 1 for 9 yards (Tank Williams, P.Sirmon).3-1-TEN1 (8:16) C.Perry right tackle to TEN 3 for -2 yards (K.Bulluck, R.Reynolds).4-3-TEN3 (7:33) (Field Goal formation) S.Graham 21 yard field goal is GOOD, Center-B.St. Louis, Holder-K.Larson.
and Rudi's:
1-1-TEN1 (2:29) R.Johnson up the middle for 1 yard, TOUCHDOWN.
Those 2 series by Perry should scare the hell out of Rudi owners. Those aren't 3rd down passing situations. It's 1st and goal.
 
  It's an accurate representation of how they are being used in the running game. 
Maybe, but only useful if your league completely neglects receiving yards to RB's.
He's getting there and he's been solid the last two weeks but until he starts getting more carries in the running game I still believe he's a risky RB3 in non-PPR leagues. Look, I like him. I started him as my RB3 fully confident that he was going to deliver and he did. But I still think he's too risky to go with on a consistent basis right now.
I'd also be hesistant starting him. But, I'd also be hesistant starting Rudi. If you're looking at how they're used in the running game, you should consider how they're used inside the 10. Yesterday in their 3 trips inside the 10, Perry was in for 2 of them and Rudi for 1. The play by play:

1-1-TEN1 (:37) C.Palmer pass to C.Perry for 1 yard, TOUCHDOWN.
and
1-10-TEN10 (9:44) C.Perry left end for 10 yards, TOUCHDOWN NULLIFIED by Penalty. PENALTY on CIN-M.Schobel, Offensive Holding, 10 yards, enforced at TEN 10 - No Play.

1-20-TEN20 (9:38) C.Perry up the middle to TEN 10 for 10 yards (K.Bulluck, K.Vanden Bosch).

2-10-TEN10 (8:59) (Shotgun) C.Palmer pass to C.Perry to TEN 1 for 9 yards (Tank Williams, P.Sirmon).

3-1-TEN1 (8:16) C.Perry right tackle to TEN 3 for -2 yards (K.Bulluck, R.Reynolds).

4-3-TEN3 (7:33) (Field Goal formation) S.Graham 21 yard field goal is GOOD, Center-B.St. Louis, Holder-K.Larson.
and Rudi's:
1-1-TEN1 (2:29) R.Johnson up the middle for 1 yard, TOUCHDOWN.
Those 2 series by Perry should scare the hell out of Rudi owners. Those aren't 3rd down passing situations. It's 1st and goal.
I would assume that cincy is employin a rotation simliar to ATL and KCFor every 3 series Rudi gets Perry will get one. I'd assume when they were close and down near the goal line that was Perry's series.

Perry won't be the feature back this year unless Rudi goes down to injury but he should get significant amount of playtime to be on the same level FF wise as Larry johnson, and TJ Duckett

 
Maybe, but only useful if your league completely neglects receiving yards to RB's.
Not at all. While Perry's been a consistent part of the passing game I do not believe he will become a consistent RB3 option in non-PPR leagues until he starts getting more carries. And that clearly isn't happening. Rudi continues to be the dominant ballcarrier.
I'd also be hesistant starting him. But, I'd also be hesistant starting Rudi.
Not me if I had him. He's a lock for 75+ yards a week and the TDs will come in my opinion.
If you're looking at how they're used in the running game, you should consider how they're used inside the 10. Yesterday in their 3 trips inside the 10, Perry was in for 2 of them and Rudi for 1. The play by play:

1-1-TEN1 (:37) C.Palmer pass to C.Perry for 1 yard, TOUCHDOWN.
and
1-10-TEN10 (9:44) C.Perry left end for 10 yards, TOUCHDOWN NULLIFIED by Penalty. PENALTY on CIN-M.Schobel, Offensive Holding, 10 yards, enforced at TEN 10 - No Play.

1-20-TEN20 (9:38) C.Perry up the middle to TEN 10 for 10 yards (K.Bulluck, K.Vanden Bosch).

2-10-TEN10 (8:59) (Shotgun) C.Palmer pass to C.Perry to TEN 1 for 9 yards (Tank Williams, P.Sirmon).

3-1-TEN1 (8:16) C.Perry right tackle to TEN 3 for -2 yards (K.Bulluck, R.Reynolds).

4-3-TEN3 (7:33) (Field Goal formation) S.Graham 21 yard field goal is GOOD, Center-B.St. Louis, Holder-K.Larson.
and Rudi's:
1-1-TEN1 (2:29) R.Johnson up the middle for 1 yard, TOUCHDOWN.
Those 2 series by Perry should scare the hell out of Rudi owners. Those aren't 3rd down passing situations. It's 1st and goal.
Yup I definitely found that interesting but as is pointed out above, Perry failed with his goal-line carry whereas Rudi punched it in. So while it's possible Perry may get some more shots there I think Rudi will continue to be the dominant option since he's a stronger between-the-tackles runner. Again, you're preaching to the choir when it comes to Perry because I like him and I think he's talented. I just don't see him taking a huge bite out of Rudi's production because Rudi has been running well and producing.
 
I would assume that cincy is employin a rotation simliar to ATL and KCFor every 3 series Rudi gets Perry will get one. I'd assume when they were close and down near the goal line that was Perry's series.Perry won't be the feature back this year unless Rudi goes down to injury but he should get significant amount of playtime to be on the same level FF wise as Larry johnson, and TJ Duckett
That would be a poor assumption. You don't think an NFL team wouldn't alter it's rotation near the goal line? Atlanta certainly does. It's Duckett, Duckett, and Duckett again from the 1.The point isn't that Perry was going to be the feature back. It's that he is cutting into what was thought to be Rudi's alone - the goal line. It was always accepted that Perry would be in the game on third and whatever. But 1st and goal from the 1?
 
I just don't see him taking a huge bite out of Rudi's production because Rudi has been running well and producing.
It already has happened. Those two series aren't only opportunities for Perry but they're lost opportunities for Rudi.
 
Those 2 series by Perry should scare the hell out of Rudi owners. Those aren't 3rd down passing situations. It's 1st and goal.
Yup. I pointed this out above regarding one drive on which Perry would have scored but it was called back on penalties. In a tight game with the team driving they put Perry in and kept him in there. I don't know when Perry will take the job -- it may not be for 2 years, or it may never happen. What I can say is that Perry is no longer your traditional third down or change of pace back. He is as much a part of that offense (and possibly becoming moreso?) as Rudi Johnson.

Watching the game, and watching the way these drives develop, can be very enlightening.

 
Contract or not.. I truly believe Chris Perry offers that team more as a multi-purpose threat and I do find it hard to believe that Perry won't - at some point - be on equal footing with Rudi in terms of playing time.Perry is not your typical Shawn Bryson in that when he comes onto the field the defense doesn't just pin their ears back and say meet you at the QB.No disrespect to Rudi, he's a heckuva runner between the tackles and a solid back in his own right.. but he's more of a 2-down back, a younger Antowain Smith. The proverbial sled horse..Perry is more along the lines of Marshall Faulk or Ricky Watters. He can hurt you inside, outside, as a receiver, etc. We'll see.. but I think Marvin Lewis knows that Perry is his best back and will be increasingly look to get him the ball more as the season progresses.

 
Contract or not.. I truly believe Chris Perry offers that team more as a multi-purpose threat and I do find it hard to believe that Perry won't - at some point - be on equal footing with Rudi in terms of playing time.

Perry is not your typical Shawn Bryson in that when he comes onto the field the defense doesn't just pin their ears back and say meet you at the QB.

No disrespect to Rudi, he's a heckuva runner between the tackles and a solid back in his own right.. but he's more of a 2-down back, a younger Antowain Smith. The proverbial sled horse..

Perry is more along the lines of Marshall Faulk or Ricky Watters. He can hurt you inside, outside, as a receiver, etc.

We'll see.. but I think Marvin Lewis knows that Perry is his best back and will be increasingly look to get him the ball more as the season progresses.
:goodposting: Perry looks great out there. Along with his obvious burst that he brings to the table, he is a very tough runner too. I think he's one of the more complete backs in the game.
 
Good article in today's Cincy Post:

Versatile Perry finds end zone

By C. Trent Rosecrans

Post staff reporter

JASON D. GEIL/The Post

NASHVILLE, Tenn. - Willie Anderson hears it every time Chris Perry enters the game. When the second-year running back out of Michigan gets into the game, opposing defenses take notice.

"When 23 is in the game, the defense is calling everything, 'watch the screen,' 'watch the pitch,' " Anderson said. "He's so multifaceted that he creates a nightmare for them. He's so versatile, it's hard to game-plan for that."

Perry played in just two games last year, suffering a hamstring injury and a sports hernia. Six games into the 2005 season, he's showing exactly why the Bengals drafted him in the first round of the 2004 draft. He's not with the Bengals to replace Rudi Johnson, but to complement him.

"He's making plays only a few guys in the league can make," Anderson said. "We're so fortunate and blessed to have a talent like that behind Rudi Johnson. There's usually a huge drop-off from the first back to the second back. We're even. Chris brings some things Rudi can't do, and Rudi is that great power runner."

Neither had a 100-yard game Sunday against the Titans, but they did combine for 108 rushing yards (80 for Johnson and 28 for Perry) and Perry also caught nine passes for 45 yards and his first career touchdown. Perry caught a 1-yard pass from Carson Palmer with 33 seconds remaining in the first half.

"It felt good," Perry said of his score. "I felt like it was overdue."

It certainly was. Against the Vikings earlier this season, Perry had an 86-yard screen pass for a score called back because of a holding penalty.

In the third quarter Sunday Perry had his first rushing touchdown called back because of a holding call. He also had a 43-yard reception nullified by a holding penalty.

"They need to start printing the called-back plays, take those into consideration or something," Perry said, lamenting the fact he has twice as many touchdowns nullified by penalties as he does scores that counted.

Anderson was none too pleased with those penalties, either.

"We, as a team, need to look out for him, and stop getting these stupid penalties," Anderson said. "He's making these huge plays and they're getting called back."

Penalties or not, Perry's role in the offense is expanding. Last week against Jacksonville, Perry was the team's most effective runner, rushing seven times for 55 yards. After carrying the ball six times Sunday, he's carried it 32 times for 149 yards this season. He's also second on the team in receptions with 27 for 185 yards.

"I feel like I'm getting used more. It's good," Perry said. "I need as many (touches) as they give me. If they give me five, good. If they give me 10, that's good. If they give me 20, that's even better."

Anderson said he expects a breakout game soon from the back.

"I know he's going to have a game with more than 200 yards of offense," Anderson said. "He works so hard during his off days. On Mondays and Tuesdays he's doing Pilates and working out. He's always in here when we don't have to be working to get better."

Now it's starting to show on Sundays.

 

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