Christine Michael (2 Viewers)

[monk]

Is he worth dropping for Turbin?

 

[Chaka]

Is he worth dropping for Turbin?

IMO Turbin is "next man up" on this team and if Marshawn misses significant time Turbin will still be the back the Seahawks trust to handle the important duties. So yes, I would prefer Turbin to Michael at least through week 8.

Unclench your sphincters Michael people, I agree that Michael runs the ball real purddy.

 

[EastonBlues22]

Is he worth dropping for Turbin?

Redraft: Maybe. I'd rather explore trading Michael and avoid the situation altogether.

Dynasty: I personally wouldn't.

 

[Chaka]

Is he worth dropping for Turbin?

Redraft: Maybe. I'd rather explore trading Michael and avoid the situation altogether.

Dynasty: I personally wouldn't.

This I agree with. You gotta play for the home run with a guy like him...while also accepting that you could strike out looking.

 

[EastonBlues22]

We should ignore his injury history, right?

All RBs are an injury risk. I acquired D. Murray fairly cheaply in my dynasty because of his injury prone rap, and I can't say I'm regretting that move one bit.

That said, I think it's pretty well established that Michael isn't a play for the risk averse.

 

[Grigs Allmoon]

Is he worth dropping for Turbin?

Redraft: Maybe. I'd rather explore trading Michael and avoid the situation altogether.

Dynasty: I personally wouldn't.

You gotta play for the home run with a guy like him...while also accepting that you could strike out looking.

So... You're taking the pitch and hoping for a home run?

 

[Alonzo Mosely]

Just dropped him for Gordon in a redraft.

 

[PatsWillWin]

I'm sorry but, some people have this guy as a top 20-25 dynasty RB and he's a healthy scratch for games in his second year? Thanks, but I'm going to toss him out there and see if I can get any bites.

 

[humpback]

I'm sorry but, some people have this guy as a top 20-25 dynasty RB and he's a healthy scratch for games in his second year? Thanks, but I'm going to toss him out there and see if I can get any bites.

Read above.

 

[ShaHBucks]

I sense a buy-low(reasonable) coming soon when he has like 5 carries through 4-5 weeks

 

[EBF]

I sense a buy-low(reasonable) coming soon when he has like 5 carries through 4-5 weeks

I think the type of people who covet Michael aren't the type to panic sell. I hope he gets more carries this year than he did last season, but I think we've all known that he wouldn't be useful or achieve his full value until Lynch is gone. I look at him almost the same way that I look at a devy prospect still in college. He's valuable, but it's also understood that you're going to have to wait a while for the payoff.

 

[snitwitch]

I'm sorry but, some people have this guy as a top 20-25 dynasty RB and he's a healthy scratch for games in his second year? Thanks, but I'm going to toss him out there and see if I can get any bites.

i dont think he was a healthy scratch

 

[Chaka]

I'm sorry but, some people have this guy as a top 20-25 dynasty RB and he's a healthy scratch for games in his second year? Thanks, but I'm going to toss him out there and see if I can get any bites.

Hamstring pull, not a healthy scratch.

 

[Shanahanigans]

Now we're looking at CM being inactive for 18 of 21 possible games in his career.

 

[Chaka]

Maybe the Vikings should trade for him.

 

[jurb26]

Now we're looking at CM being inactive for 18 of 21 possible games in his career.

Is he playing this week?

 

[RBM]

Just dropped his ### for Latavius. This is ridiculous at this point.

 

[Shanahanigans]

Now we're looking at CM being inactive for 18 of 21 possible games in his career.

Is he playing this week?

It's extremely unlikely.

 

[Mr. Retukes]

Just dropped his ### for Latavius. This is ridiculous at this point.

We passed ridiculous about 50 pages ago.

 

[Ed McCutcheon]

Now we're looking at CM being inactive for 18 of 21 possible games in his career.

Is he playing this week?

It's extremely unlikely.

MFL has him listed as "Out" and is already speculating that he will be "Questionable" for week 3. I might extend the "Questionable" period longer than week 3 to........"indefinite".

 

[Englishteacher]

Real question is, when healthy, is he on the active roster. Evidently, he had "improved" over the past year although he had some mishaps in preseason. He had some good plays and bad plays. You could see the talent on some plays and he would also make mistakes that Turbin doesn't make.

If he's active, maybe he could see some spot carries and get some momentum.

Last year, they carried Lynch and Turbin, plus the FB/RB hybrid guy. Michael is not a special teams guy, isn't a third down back, and isn't better than Lynch. I think Seattle has their rotation figured out.

Question is, does he make the active roster on game day that maybe he could handle a few 1st and 2nd down reps?

 

[biju]

Real question is, when healthy, is he on the active roster. Evidently, he had "improved" over the past year although he had some mishaps in preseason. He had some good plays and bad plays. You could see the talent on some plays and he would also make mistakes that Turbin doesn't make.

If he's active, maybe he could see some spot carries and get some momentum.

Last year, they carried Lynch and Turbin, plus the FB/RB hybrid guy. Michael is not a special teams guy, isn't a third down back, and isn't better than Lynch. I think Seattle has their rotation figured out.

Question is, does he make the active roster on game day that maybe he could handle a few 1st and 2nd down reps?

All reports out of Seattle say he'll be active once healthy, so all of the people pointing to him being inactive when injured are just chest pounding.

 

[Englishteacher]

Drafted this guy in dynasty last year on a keep six roster in the first round (rookies and thrown back vets). Dropped him, drafted him in the second round this year.

We can roster 4-5 RB's.

Anyone in a small keeper dynasty league (no draft pick subtraction for keepers) with short rosters? How are you handling Michael?

I'm hurting at RB, and it's getting more like a sunk-cost.

Sunk Cost:



Description When we have put effort into something, we are often reluctant to pull out because of the loss that we will make, even if continued refusal to jump ship will lead to even more loss. The potential dissonance of accepting that we made a mistake acts to keep us in blind hope.

Example It is common for people who have invested in company shares to hold on tight to them as the market slumps, in the desperate hope that the shares will rise in price again.

So what? Using it Get people to make a number of small and easy commitments. When they try to pull out, remind them of the total commitment they have already made.

Defending When thinking of pulling out of something, focus on future costs and benefits rather than past investment.

 

[EBF]

Do you want to be the guy who drops him before he finally gets a chance to do something? Seems to me if you've come this far then you might as well wait for the payoff. He has a top 50 ADP in dynasty startups, so it seems like he should be a keeper in keep six leagues. Sit tight and wait until he gets his opportunity.

 

[Englishteacher]

Do you want to be the guy who drops him before he finally gets a chance to do something? Seems to me if you've come this far then you might as well wait for the payoff. He has a top 50 ADP in dynasty startups, so it seems like he should be a keeper in keep six leagues. Sit tight and wait until he gets his opportunity.

I'm hanging on for now. However, we can only roster 5 RB's. Not to turn it in to a "Who Do I Start" but with a stable of Charles, Lacy (concussion issues), Hyde, Michael (injured, inactive in 2013 anyway), and now Asiata, I am woefully thin for RB production for this year.

I actually dropped Crowell, a dynasty riser, for Asiata just to get a guy I thought would get starters carries.

Larger benches and larger leagues? No problems sitting on Michael for a payday. Trying to compete in 2014 AND keep a good dynasty roster with short benches? Tough.

Just looking for some support or insight from owners in other situations. If another of the Top 32 RB starters in the league drop and he's on the FCFS (which we have in the league) waiver wire, I might have to drop him.

 

[chinawildman]

Maybe the Vikings should trade for him.

As crazy as this sounds, a trade (maybe not necessarily to the VIkings) is what I'm holding onto Michael for. If he's still playing third fiddle after the trade deadline has passed... well he's likely getting dropped for a bye week fillter.

 

[EBF]

Do you want to be the guy who drops him before he finally gets a chance to do something? Seems to me if you've come this far then you might as well wait for the payoff. He has a top 50 ADP in dynasty startups, so it seems like he should be a keeper in keep six leagues. Sit tight and wait until he gets his opportunity.

I'm hanging on for now. However, we can only roster 5 RB's. Not to turn it in to a "Who Do I Start" but with a stable of Charles, Lacy (concussion issues), Hyde, Michael (injured, inactive in 2013 anyway), and now Asiata, I am woefully thin for RB production for this year.

I actually dropped Crowell, a dynasty riser, for Asiata just to get a guy I thought would get starters carries.

Larger benches and larger leagues? No problems sitting on Michael for a payday. Trying to compete in 2014 AND keep a good dynasty roster with short benches? Tough.

Just looking for some support or insight from owners in other situations. If another of the Top 32 RB starters in the league drop and he's on the FCFS (which we have in the league) waiver wire, I might have to drop him.

Just my 2 cents, but this is the kind of short-sighted decision that you could regret for years if you end up moving him. You have two guys on everybody's top 10 redraft RBs (Charles and Lacy) and two other guys you can plug in for bye week and emergency depth (Hyde and Asiata). I don't think you really need to panic. I always like to have a couple bullets in the chamber for future season and Michael is the kind of guy who could be a fixture in your lineup in another 1-2 years.

As crazy as this sounds, a trade (maybe not necessarily to the VIkings) is what I'm holding onto Michael for. If he's still playing third fiddle after the trade deadline has passed... well he's likely getting dropped for a bye week fillter.

I pointed this out elsewhere, but if you look at Seattle's third preseason game (which is usually the most telling), Lynch played the first series. Turbin started the second series, but Michael came in before the series was even over and actually had more touches on that drive and in the game as a whole. He didn't play any snaps without Russell Wilson also being on the field. In other words, they gave him a lot of work with the starters. Slightly more touches than Turbin.

I think this punches some holes in the "third fiddle" panic and also offers some concrete support for the idea that Michael would figure prominently in the event of a Lynch injury. I put very little stock in Turbin's spot on the depth chart being a significant indicator of how those two backs might be used if and when Lynch is gone.

Anyway, sounds to me like you're getting an itchy trigger finger because your team didn't come out of the gates strongly. I can't speak for anyone else, but when I've made panicky lineup-driven redraft-style personnel moves in my dynasty leagues, it has almost always come back to haunt me. You've got a possible ace up your sleeve for future seasons and I'd keep him there unless someone knocks your socks off with an amazing offer.

 

[chinawildman]

As crazy as this sounds, a trade (maybe not necessarily to the VIkings) is what I'm holding onto Michael for. If he's still playing third fiddle after the trade deadline has passed... well he's likely getting dropped for a bye week fillter.

I pointed this out elsewhere, but if you look at Seattle's third preseason game (which is usually the most telling), Lynch played the first series. Turbin started the second series, but Michael came in before the series was even over and actually had more touches on that drive and in the game as a whole. He didn't play any snaps without Russell Wilson also being on the field. In other words, they gave him a lot of work with the starters. Slightly more touches than Turbin.

I think this punches some holes in the "third fiddle" panic and also offers some concrete support for the idea that Michael would feature prominently in the event of a Lynch injury. I put very little stock in Turbin's spot on the depth chart being a significant indicator of how those two backs might be used if and when Lynch is gone.

Anyway, sounds to me like you're getting an itchy trigger finger because your team didn't come out of the gates strongly. I can't speak for anyone else, but when I've made panicky lineup-driven redraft-style personnel moves in my dynasty leagues, it has almost always come back to haunt me. You've got a possible ace up your sleeve for future seasons and I'd keep him there unless someone knocks your socks off with an amazing offer.

While I think Michael is talented, to have to reach so hard to find anything good to say about his prospects this season is tough to swallow in a redraft. I can't imagine he would ever be startable this season when Lynch is healthy. Crazier things have happened though and like I said I'm holding strong until the trade deadline. But right now the guy is little more than a lotto ticket.

 

[EBF]

As crazy as this sounds, a trade (maybe not necessarily to the VIkings) is what I'm holding onto Michael for. If he's still playing third fiddle after the trade deadline has passed... well he's likely getting dropped for a bye week fillter.

I pointed this out elsewhere, but if you look at Seattle's third preseason game (which is usually the most telling), Lynch played the first series. Turbin started the second series, but Michael came in before the series was even over and actually had more touches on that drive and in the game as a whole. He didn't play any snaps without Russell Wilson also being on the field. In other words, they gave him a lot of work with the starters. Slightly more touches than Turbin.

I think this punches some holes in the "third fiddle" panic and also offers some concrete support for the idea that Michael would feature prominently in the event of a Lynch injury. I put very little stock in Turbin's spot on the depth chart being a significant indicator of how those two backs might be used if and when Lynch is gone.

Anyway, sounds to me like you're getting an itchy trigger finger because your team didn't come out of the gates strongly. I can't speak for anyone else, but when I've made panicky lineup-driven redraft-style personnel moves in my dynasty leagues, it has almost always come back to haunt me. You've got a possible ace up your sleeve for future seasons and I'd keep him there unless someone knocks your socks off with an amazing offer.

While I think Michael is talented, to have to reach so hard to find anything good to say about his prospects this season is tough to swallow in a redraft. I can't imagine he would ever be startable this season when Lynch is healthy. Crazier things have happened though and like I said I'm holding strong until the trade deadline. But right now the guy is little more than a lotto ticket.

He only has handcuff value in redraft leagues, but in keeper leagues he's a potential nucleus player down the road. Guys who can score top 10 ppg at their position are gold and also the hardest players to find when trying to assemble a team. You can always find depth, but it's tricky to find a do-everything RB who has the ability to develop into a game-winner for you.

 

[snitwitch]

Do you want to be the guy who drops him before he finally gets a chance to do something? Seems to me if you've come this far then you might as well wait for the payoff. He has a top 50 ADP in dynasty startups, so it seems like he should be a keeper in keep six leagues. Sit tight and wait until he gets his opportunity.

keeping him for now in my keep 5 league but he is semi expendable

 

[pecorino]

Dropping him for McKinnon seems reasonable as both are unproven athletic freaks but McKinnon may get the first crack at a true NFL opportunity with Peterson's looming suspension.

 

[Faust]

Rotoworld:

The Seahawks expect Christine Michael (hamstring) to return to practice Wednesday.

Michael hasn't played or practiced since pulling his hamstring in the preseason finale. With Marshawn Lynch battling "ongoing" back issues, Michael should see plenty of reps in practice this week. Lynch is expected to be fine for Week 3, and Michael would likely be the No. 3 back behind Lynch and Robert Turbin.

Source: Liz Mathews on Twitter

Sep 15 - 6:31 PM

 

[3nOut]

Rotoworld:

The Seahawks expect Christine Michael (hamstring) to return to practice Wednesday.Michael hasn't played or practiced since pulling his hamstring in the preseason finale. With Marshawn Lynch battling "ongoing" back issues, Michael should see plenty of reps in practice this week. Lynch is expected to be fine for Week 3, and Michael would likely be the No. 3 back behind Lynch and Robert Turbin.

Source: Liz Mathews on Twitter

Sep 15 - 6:31 PM

Sounds like he's droppable in a redraft league.

 

[Alex P Keaton]

Rotoworld:

The Seahawks expect Christine Michael (hamstring) to return to practice Wednesday.Michael hasn't played or practiced since pulling his hamstring in the preseason finale. With Marshawn Lynch battling "ongoing" back issues, Michael should see plenty of reps in practice this week. Lynch is expected to be fine for Week 3, and Michael would likely be the No. 3 back behind Lynch and Robert Turbin.

Source: Liz Mathews on Twitter

Sep 15 - 6:31 PM

Sounds like he's droppable in a redraft league.

Depends on how deep your league rosters are. My league is 40-deep. No way Michael gets cut in a league like that.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Rotoworld:

The Seahawks expect Christine Michael (hamstring) to return to practice Wednesday.Michael hasn't played or practiced since pulling his hamstring in the preseason finale. With Marshawn Lynch battling "ongoing" back issues, Michael should see plenty of reps in practice this week. Lynch is expected to be fine for Week 3, and Michael would likely be the No. 3 back behind Lynch and Robert Turbin.

Source: Liz Mathews on Twitter

Sep 15 - 6:31 PM

Sounds like he's droppable in a redraft league.

Depends on how deep your league rosters are. My league is 40-deep. No way Michael gets cut in a league like that.

40 man rosters in a redraft league? Guess no one gets dropped in a league like that.

 

[TheFanatic]

Rotoworld:

The Seahawks expect Christine Michael (hamstring) to return to practice Wednesday.Michael hasn't played or practiced since pulling his hamstring in the preseason finale. With Marshawn Lynch battling "ongoing" back issues, Michael should see plenty of reps in practice this week. Lynch is expected to be fine for Week 3, and Michael would likely be the No. 3 back behind Lynch and Robert Turbin.

Source: Liz Mathews on Twitter

Sep 15 - 6:31 PM

Sounds like he's droppable in a redraft league.

Depends on how deep your league rosters are. My league is 40-deep. No way Michael gets cut in a league like that.

40 man rosters in a redraft league? Guess no one gets dropped in a league like that.

Tell me that's with IDP as well.

 

[Alex P Keaton]

Rotoworld:

The Seahawks expect Christine Michael (hamstring) to return to practice Wednesday.Michael hasn't played or practiced since pulling his hamstring in the preseason finale. With Marshawn Lynch battling "ongoing" back issues, Michael should see plenty of reps in practice this week. Lynch is expected to be fine for Week 3, and Michael would likely be the No. 3 back behind Lynch and Robert Turbin.

Source: Liz Mathews on Twitter

Sep 15 - 6:31 PM

Sounds like he's droppable in a redraft league.

Depends on how deep your league rosters are. My league is 40-deep. No way Michael gets cut in a league like that.

40 man rosters in a redraft league? Guess no one gets dropped in a league like that.

Tell me that's with IDP as well.

Of course that is IDP. Do people still play in leagues with team defense?

 

[Alex P Keaton]

Why is this thread 55 pages, but the Knile Davis thread is only 6 pages? His is a serious question, not a fishing expedition. How does this happen? I mean, I'm a C Michael owner, but what the heck???

 

[flapgreen]

The dream is dead

 

[biju]

The guy is finally getting healthy so we're going to find out very quickly where he stands against real competition very soon, especially with concerns Marshawn's back is acting up again.

 

[chinawildman]

The guy is finally getting healthy so we're going to find out very quickly where he stands against real competition very soon, especially with concerns Marshawn's back is acting up again.

Tell me more, what's going on w/ Lynch?

 

[SameSongNDance]

The guy is finally getting healthy so we're going to find out very quickly where he stands against real competition very soon, especially with concerns Marshawn's back is acting up again.

Tell me more, what's going on w/ Lynch?

Back spasms. These aren't a new thing for him though. I wouldn't be worried about Lynch unless he suffers some type of lower body injury.

 

[Bri]

real back spasms? Or give a veteran some rest back spasms?

 

[Alex P Keaton]

real back spasms? Or give a veteran some rest back spasms?

Are you suggesting Lynch is making up the spasms? Or that the team is lying about the spasms? Just curious.

 

[SameSongNDance]

real back spasms? Or give a veteran some rest back spasms?

Real back spasms. Looking back to 2012, he was essentially on the injury report with a back injury all season.

I think the term "back spasm" sounds benign but I know I can't even walk when I get them.

 

[biju]

real back spasms? Or give a veteran some rest back spasms?

Real back spasms. Looking back to 2012, he was essentially on the injury report with a back injury all season.

I think the term "back spasm" sounds benign but I know I can't even walk when I get them.

He was out one game against Cleveland a few years ago (2011) due specifically to the back spasms but nothing other than injury reports and then playing fully in games up until last week. I suspect it was due far more to the heat than anything else but it's certainly worth monitoring just in case.

Anyway, last week was a great example of needing to have more RB depth than just Lynch and Turbin's whopping two carries. I'm not suggesting he'll be anywhere near startable, but I suspect he'll get into the action no later than week 5. I know that won't really appease the ADD crowd, but from a pure fan perspective I'm pretty excited about him finally being healthy and likely active on game days.

 

[chinawildman]

would be excited to see Michael in a Vikes uniform...

 

[Shanahanigans]

Healthy scratch. Now inactive for 19 of 22 possible games. Still no concern?

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

Healthy scratch. Now inactive for 19 of 22 possible games. Still no concern?

best player ever!

 

[tdmills]

Healthy scratch. Now inactive for 19 of 22 possible games. Still no concern?

Still a future HOF player, just ask his owners.