bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
most owners wont move him for anything reasonable. I own Lynch and I figure when/if he goes down I might as well just have a different option ready, I would keep David Johnson personally.
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Reasonable is subjective. I own michael and the lynch owner has been trying to trade for him. He's offering peanuts compared to what i think he's worth. Am I overvalueing him because i own him? very possibly. Is there a decent chance he never amounts to anything? Of course, but there's still a shot in 1 or 2 years for him to be a top 10 RB. Now people may scoff a that and that's fine but it's not worth it to me to trade that for a middle round draft pick or some middle of the road player.bicycle_seat_sniffer said:
socrates
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It is easy to look back now and say you should have kept CJ Anderson over Michael. However, most of us would have ranked Michael above Anderson this time last year. I cut CJ Anderson this time last season myself, in favor of guys like Ben Tate (ugggh).
How would you guys rank and compare (dynasty) Christine Michael this season against these backs:
(in no particular order)
1. Isaiah Crowell: Is he anything more than just a committee back?
2. Charles Sims: Folks are high on him at the moment with talk that he will win the Tampa job outright and the comparisons to Matt Forte
3. Tre Mason: Almost a forgotten man now, but like Michael, supremely talented
4. Joseph Randle: Easy to get drawn into the May hype, but is he talented enough to win AND hold onto the job in Dallas, and can he steer clear of trouble?
5. Latavius Murray: I pulled the plug too early on Murray last season when I needed the roster spot, but for all his straight-line speed, I didn't see much burst to his game.
6. Andre Ellington: Last season was a big disappointment. Much of that can be attributed to injury, but that is the knock on him: can he stay healthy for enough work to be a viable weekly fantasy starter?
7. Devonta Freeman: I love the way Freeman plays, but does anyone really think he is the long-term answer in Atlanta?
Who else would you throw into this comparison?
How would you guys rank and compare (dynasty) Christine Michael this season against these backs:
(in no particular order)
1. Isaiah Crowell: Is he anything more than just a committee back?
2. Charles Sims: Folks are high on him at the moment with talk that he will win the Tampa job outright and the comparisons to Matt Forte
3. Tre Mason: Almost a forgotten man now, but like Michael, supremely talented
4. Joseph Randle: Easy to get drawn into the May hype, but is he talented enough to win AND hold onto the job in Dallas, and can he steer clear of trouble?
5. Latavius Murray: I pulled the plug too early on Murray last season when I needed the roster spot, but for all his straight-line speed, I didn't see much burst to his game.
6. Andre Ellington: Last season was a big disappointment. Much of that can be attributed to injury, but that is the knock on him: can he stay healthy for enough work to be a viable weekly fantasy starter?
7. Devonta Freeman: I love the way Freeman plays, but does anyone really think he is the long-term answer in Atlanta?
Who else would you throw into this comparison?
Zyphros
Footballguy
I would pretty easily take Crowell and Murray over CMike, not a believer in any of the others (except Mason, but Gurley is Gurley so his value is shot). Sims/Randle/Freeman are JAG's to me and Ellington could be very valuable as a 15 touch a game guy but that's it. I'd swing for the fences on CMike over him. Also Crowell, Murray, Cmike seem to have the ability to be feature backs on 3 downs, I just can't see it for the others. Crowell needs to get better at catching, pass blocking, fumbling, Murray needs to be so much more consistent, and Michael needs playing time, but the high ceiling is there. I think we all agree on that much.
socrates
Footballguy
Nice analysis. Thanks.
It is interesting to see where that dividing line is on a high-ceiling guy like Christine Michael who isn't likely to pay immediate dividends.
Coeur de Lion
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The only guy on that list that I'm confident is more than JAG talent-wise is Ellington, and with Ellington IMO there are pretty big long term questions about what role he's best suited for. I can see taking Michael over any or all of those guys, or not, depending on personal preference and individual team situation / need. I think Michael's upside is higher than any of those RBs, but his floor is probably lower too.
Christine Michael may be on the bubble in training camp:
http://espn.go.com/blog/seattle-seahawks/post/_/id/13425/christine-michael-may-be-on-the-bubble-in-training-camp
http://espn.go.com/blog/seattle-seahawks/post/_/id/13425/christine-michael-may-be-on-the-bubble-in-training-camp
Ketamine Dreams
Footballguy
Ouch.
Look on the bright side. Perhaps he gets released from the Seahawks, signs with the Cowboys and the hype train can ignite all over again!
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Ketamine Dreams
Footballguy
Haha. I don't own him anywhere but targeted him when he was a rookie. Amazing how little he's done and how wildly his stock has changed.
buck naked
Footballguy
The Cowboys talent level at RB is completely different than the Seahawks, so I think that they will explore a number of other RB options as other teams make their cuts. I could be wrong on this one, but I don't believe the Cowboys when they say that they feel confident in the McFadden, Randle, Dunbar trifecta.
I am having fun stoking the offseason RB speculation with the Cowboys and linking them to dormant hype trains such as Michael and Bryce Brown. There isn't much else going on during the lull before training camps open.
Well, the Cowboys don't have Marshawn Lynch, for starters. But yeah, getting cut would not be a good sign.
fridayfrenzy
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This is the very definition of click bait. Terry Blount is one of the worst beat writers. I miss Sando.
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jurb26
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Yeah, slow the funeral plans. I'm no CM fan club member but this is nothing more than one guys opinion. I mean does any REALLY expect him to not beat out a guy like Thomas Rawls for a roster spot? Really? This is a stretch. A pretty long one at that.
squistion
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Ditka Butkus
Footballguy
or he may leap frog Turbin......as long as we are speculating.
Dinsy Ejotuz
Footballguy
Good thing no one in this thread engages in speculation, over-reaction or hype.
ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
Jesus, you guys love to eat up anything that backs up your view, regardless of it's validity. It's early July. Not really interested in what one beat reporter has to say, it's their job to generate clicks...just like Rotoworld forwarding it to a wider audience. Rawls looking good in shorts in OTA's is nice, and he's a guy I have on my watch list if he gets cut due to the numbers game and ends up in a better situation. But to say he's pushing Michael when they aren't even practicing fully yet is dumb, and it's an attention-grabbing quote.
BigSteelThrill
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At this time its about knowing the playbook and understanding responsibilities. Much of what a player is grasping can be determined through asking questions.
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Sabertooth
Footballguy
Bum
fridayfrenzy
Footballguy
Michael is a free agent in 2017. Not next year.
Cutting Michael also only saves around 500k in cap space. If the Seahawks do want to move on from Michael it would most likely be with a trade.
I don't envision that happening because Lynch and Turbin will be gone soon and find it hard to believe the Seahawks will go into a season having to rely on Rawls or rookie RBs.
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Hooper31
Footballguy
biju said:
When you see Gregg Bell's name attached to a story like this you pay attention. When you see Terry Blount's name you just roll your eyes (again and again). Blount is working overtime to put his name in the hat to be the next Mike Florio. Blount is akin to tabloid journalist. He's more of an editorialist than a reporter.
Fully expecting to see a headline at ESPN that reads: Russell Wilson may sign a new contract as early as this afternoon.
Blount sucks so bad it hurts.
EDIT: When you see it reported HERE, then it's something you should consider seriously.
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I will say, this situation reminds me of the whole Maurice Morris thing about 10 years ago. Everyone thought he was the best backup in the game, etc., and then he never could really break out. Played for 10 seasons, primarily all as a backup. In the one season he started 8 games, he averaged under 4 YPC. Sometimes guys like this ar purely situational, and the fans are the last ones to find this out.
Shutout
Footballguy
You're probably right.
Related to Michael: maybe the best thing that could happen to him (for him perhaps and definitely for fantasy owners) is if he WAS waived. The speed (or lack thereof) and the location of the team(s) that might try to acquire him would tell us a lot about what NFL clubs think of him in the league.
Personally, I would still love for him to find his way onto the Dallas or Houston roster. That would boost his fantasy value more than anything I can think of (people's perceptions, etc.)
Donnybrook
Footballguy
CM is getting cut just like CJ Anderson was getting cut last season. I still believe everything that I read.
Sabertooth
Footballguy
yep
biju
Footballguy
I love the Tacoma News Tribune--it's been a great source for Seahawks news for many years now and they keep finding great writers. If I remember correctly Blount is a Nascar guy who is doing football on the side since we lost our real ESPN beat reporter.biju said:
When you see Gregg Bell's name attached to a story like this you pay attention. When you see Terry Blount's name you just roll your eyes (again and again). Blount is working overtime to put his name in the hat to be the next Mike Florio. Blount is akin to tabloid journalist. He's more of an editorialist than a reporter.
Fully expecting to see a headline at ESPN that reads: Russell Wilson may sign a new contract as early as this afternoon.
Blount sucks so bad it hurts.
EDIT: When you see it reported HERE, then it's something you should consider seriously.
CR69
Footballguy
According to the FBG update, Dallas took Michael off their board the year he came out. If that's true, I don't see them trading for him.
Donnybrook
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The team that signed Greg Hardy and Rolando McClain won't lower their standards for Christine Michael. Is that what you want me to believe?
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Alex P Keaton
Footballguy
If true, wouldn't that be an even bigger indictment of Michael??
CR69
Footballguy
He had injury and character concerns when he was drafted, don't know the exact reason they reportedly took him off their board though. Teams will sometimes overlook one of those, but usually not both.
Alex P Keaton
Footballguy
Has he ever thrown a girlfriend onto a bed full of automatic weapons?
Shutout
Footballguy
not every rb but any Rb with perceived talent/potential that is young, sure. If Cj SPiller was waived today or traded to Dallas he would get some buzz. If old, almost 30 Justin Forsett did, then no...wait! YOu mean when we trashed him last year and for years before that as being J.A.G., that wasn't true when he went to the perfect landing spot?
Point being, a Dallas RB by almost any name is worth paying attention to (ironically, with the notable exception of most everybody they already have). LOL
cr8f
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fridayfrenzy
Footballguy
Terry Blount has gone back to cars. Thank goodness.
http://www.nhra.com/story/2015/7/9/terry-blount/
http://www.nhra.com/story/2015/7/9/terry-blount/
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probably threw out the story on his way out of his old job so he could score Michael for cheap in his dynasty leagues.
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