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bulger2holt
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Yeah, it could become a problem if your bench is light. I will carry one QB and TE if I have to. Michael could pay huge dividends down the road.
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massraider
Footballguy
The tough part about Michael as a flyer is that he's not a flyer that you take, and have a solid answer in a month. He just got to town, no way he sees much action right away.
I know everyone says that now we'll know because he's on Dallas, but it's very possible that some combo of Randle/DMC/Dunbar do just fine behind that line, and Dallas has no reason to put a new guy in a starting role.
Randle could get injured week 11, and Michael could lead someone to fantasy glory.
This is a ticket that could pay off in October, or December. You have to be willing to hold. If he gets no carries for three weeks, would you cut him? Because he can still be relevant later on.
I know everyone says that now we'll know because he's on Dallas, but it's very possible that some combo of Randle/DMC/Dunbar do just fine behind that line, and Dallas has no reason to put a new guy in a starting role.
Randle could get injured week 11, and Michael could lead someone to fantasy glory.
This is a ticket that could pay off in October, or December. You have to be willing to hold. If he gets no carries for three weeks, would you cut him? Because he can still be relevant later on.
cstu
Footballguy
He's worth a flier because McFadden is McFadden and what has Randle proven? Someone is going to put up numbers for Cowboys so it could easily be Michael at some point.
EBF
Footballguy
He averaged 100 rushing yards per game at 6.0 YPC in his junior season before getting injured (believe it was a torn ACL). Had he finished that season healthy, he likely would've had enough momentum to leave school early and push for a top 45 draft slot. People make Michael out to be a workout warrior and nothing more, but he was a productive college player. The bigger problem was durability. He couldn't stay healthy on a high workload. That's actually been my biggest fear for his NFL career. He obviously has the talent to produce as a runner, but he could shine for 4-5 games and then blow up a knee again. That's kind of like the sick nightmare scenario that I could see unfolding. After all this time he gets out there, looks like a million bucks for a few games, and then *pop*...Seriously...
Was CMike ever the starter (sans injury) for Texas A&M in his 4 seasons?
Then again, Curtis Martin and Frank Gore did okay in the NFL after being plagued by injuries in college. Peterson too. You just never know...
Chaos Commish
Footballguy
Todem
Footballguy
The Cowboys went from having a special RB (Murray) to ?????
No one denies Michael's talent. He was not sniffing the field behind Lynch. And he has a superstar ego and is a back that has an elite pedigree.
He is now in a place where there is no one in front of him that is just as good if not better.
I fully expect him to take the lead alpha dog role and run with it by week 4 or 5. If not....then he really is not that good. Because he has almost no competition in front of him with a broken down McFadden and a middling average talent like Randle.
Golden opportunity for an out of no where player to emerge this season. Well worth the late round flier I took on him. I will be patient.
No one denies Michael's talent. He was not sniffing the field behind Lynch. And he has a superstar ego and is a back that has an elite pedigree.
He is now in a place where there is no one in front of him that is just as good if not better.
I fully expect him to take the lead alpha dog role and run with it by week 4 or 5. If not....then he really is not that good. Because he has almost no competition in front of him with a broken down McFadden and a middling average talent like Randle.
Golden opportunity for an out of no where player to emerge this season. Well worth the late round flier I took on him. I will be patient.
Milkman
Footballguy
BigSteelThrill
Footballguy
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
BigSteelThrill
Footballguy
But was he the starter?He averaged 100 rushing yards per game at 6.0 YPC in his junior season before getting injured (believe it was a torn ACL).Seriously...
Was CMike ever the starter (sans injury) for Texas A&M in his 4 seasons?
It seems even in that year that the other RB was getting more carries.
Gray at 159 and CMike at 149 at times of injury. And Gray had more carries in a majority of those games (5-4). And x4 as many catches.
Chaka
Footballguy
The Cowboys have a week 6 bye. If he is not doing anything for Dallas in week 7 then it's time for me to see if there is something more appealing on the WW.
Chaos Commish
Footballguy
It depends on several things. How deep a bench? How are Randle and McFadden playing? He's an injury away from joining the committee. I doubt he excels so much in practice that they have to play him. I suspect his maturity/professionalism issues will continue to cause coaches to pause. I was at several Dallas practices in August. At one Peter King spent considerable time with Gary Brown RB coach. Later he reported that Dallas doesn't think McFadden can stay healthy, duh. But there was more to it he didn't report like loving Dunbar out of the backfield and wanting to see in games what they've seen in practice so many times, and also having great confidence in Randle on the field. I think adding an RB was all about McFadden injury concerns and who (Michael) came available. God knows the other backs in camp were... not NFL caliber.
Dinsy Ejotuz
Footballguy
I'll mentally write him off if he's not seeing the field by the week after the bye, but probably wouldn't cut him loose yet. (dynasty)
I Am the Stig
Footballguy
As long as I can based on record, but I will not hold if someone blows up and falls to me on the WW.
But the bye weeks are likely when I would have to cut him if I'm at .500
Chaos Commish
Footballguy
Broke his leg as a sophomore. Tore his acl in game nine mid november of his junior season. He was running hard by April. Injuries were not the issue his senior year.He averaged 100 rushing yards per game at 6.0 YPC in his junior season before getting injured (believe it was a torn ACL). Had he finished that season healthy, he likely would've had enough momentum to leave school early and push for a top 45 draft slot. People make Michael out to be a workout warrior and nothing more, but he was a productive college player. The bigger problem was durability. He couldn't stay healthy on a high workload. That's actually been my biggest fear for his NFL career. He obviously has the talent to produce as a runner, but he could shine for 4-5 games and then blow up a knee again. That's kind of like the sick nightmare scenario that I could see unfolding. After all this time he gets out there, looks like a million bucks for a few games, and then *pop*...Seriously...
Was CMike ever the starter (sans injury) for Texas A&M in his 4 seasons?
Then again, Curtis Martin and Frank Gore did okay in the NFL after being plagued by injuries in college. Peterson too. You just never know...
Coeur de Lion
Footballguy
Agreed with all of the above -- no point in rostering him if you're not willing to hold through the week after the buy. If you're looking for immediate results, there have to be better options out there than the player that is learning a new system.
Touchdown There
Footballguy
Touchdown There
Footballguy
According to ESPN, one fumble which was recovered by Seattle. Wouldn't call that a fumbling problem.
cr8f
Footballguy
I still have him, Randle and Tavon Austin on my dynasty DTS, last year for all 3 I think though.
FreeBaGeL
Footballguy
Michael's intrigue is in his potential to win the job outright, not take over due to injury. Their are plenty of huge upside backs (Knile Davis, Hillman, Mathews, etc) that could be league winners with an injury in front of them, so that part isn't really anything new.
BigSteelThrill
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SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
He fumbled in the preseason, it sounds like it was one of the aggravating factors to the staff. He also went just 17/42 in the first part of the preseason, 32/118/0 overall. He did have a 29 yard run, take that away (yeah I know...) 31/89/0/2.8 on the PS.
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titusbramble
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Kind of brings me to my question, picked up Michael off the wire and cut my kicker to do so, need to cut someone in the next few days, it's either Michael back, Knile or Crowell, basically looking for the most upside with bell/forte/gordon/ivory ahead of all of them. No PPR.FreeBaGeL said:
The Man With No Name
Footballguy
According to Wonderlic, Inc. the average test score is about a 20 out of 50. The company also states a score of at least 10 proves a person is literate.
http://www.rantsports.com/nfl/2015/02/18/10-players-with-the-worst-wonderlic-scores-in-nfl-combine-history/
http://www.rantsports.com/nfl/2015/02/18/10-players-with-the-worst-wonderlic-scores-in-nfl-combine-history/
Mister CIA
Footballguy
I don't have enough hate to enjoy fantasy football anymore.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBQnOz6nhxEWow. That is a priceless example of Michael's "special traits."Yes. Even though Cyrus Gray had a nice college career and has been a backup in the NFL, it was always pretty clear that Michael was the better back. Had it not been for injuries, Gray wouldn't have ever gotten the chance to break out and probably wouldn't have been drafted.Seriously...
Was CMike ever the starter (sans injury) for Texas A&M in his 4 seasons?
I remember watching him mistakenly steal the ball from Tannehill on what was supposed to be a fake handoff for a play-action pass and take it for like a 32 yard score. That play really epitomizes him as a player. Supremely talented but boneheaded.
I got it wrong. It was a straight up pass play and it was 48 yards. Play starts at 0:09 (second play of the clip). Best angle is at 0:27. Effing hilarious.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
That's hysterical - you can practically see the "WTF?" thought bubble over Tannehill's head.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBQnOz6nhxEWow. That is a priceless example of Michael's "special traits."Yes. Even though Cyrus Gray had a nice college career and has been a backup in the NFL, it was always pretty clear that Michael was the better back. Had it not been for injuries, Gray wouldn't have ever gotten the chance to break out and probably wouldn't have been drafted.Seriously...
Was CMike ever the starter (sans injury) for Texas A&M in his 4 seasons?
I remember watching him mistakenly steal the ball from Tannehill on what was supposed to be a fake handoff for a play-action pass and take it for like a 32 yard score. That play really epitomizes him as a player. Supremely talented but boneheaded.
I got it wrong. It was a straight up pass play and it was 48 yards. Play starts at 0:09 (second play of the clip). Best angle is at 0:27. Effing hilarious.
Shutout
Footballguy
4 of the most notable lowest 10 wonderlic scores include:
Jeff George
Frank Gore
Seabass
Vince Young
What I see on that list are all guys that had extra special talent and, at some point in the NFL, ff relevance. Maybe its a thing where when you know you got something that other guys don't, you don't take this thing seriously because you know you're going to be fine on the field (or think you will).
I wonder if FBG could get their hands on this thing and let the members take it. That would be fun.
Coeur de Lion
Footballguy
It's available online, and it's easy as hell. The guys doing really poorly on it have to be either not paying attention, LD, or just frighteningly dumb.
Touchdown There
Footballguy
Have to check the most recent posts first my man. 10 minutes late on that nugget.
BigSteelThrill
Footballguy
On today's FBG news thread:
DAL - Starting RB for Dallas undecided - Wed Sep 9, 12:38 AM
While Dallas Cowboys RB Joseph Randle is listed as the starter on the depth chart released before the Week 1 game against the New York Giants, head coach Jason Garrett and vice president Stephen Jones admitted Tuesday, Sept. 8, that they have not yet decided on a starter. RB Darren McFadden could be the starter, or RB Christine Michael might be the option.
Footballguys view: Fantasy owners thought they had something with Joseph Randle earlier this year. Then, Randle did next to nothing in camp or the preseason to impress. Now, with the addition of Michael, the team's backfield is completely up in the air. We feel Randle is the guy to start the season, but Michael is arguably the most naturally talented back on the roster. If Michael finally "gets it" he could be very significant for fantasy owners as the starter for the Cowboys.
DAL - Starting RB for Dallas undecided - Wed Sep 9, 12:38 AM
While Dallas Cowboys RB Joseph Randle is listed as the starter on the depth chart released before the Week 1 game against the New York Giants, head coach Jason Garrett and vice president Stephen Jones admitted Tuesday, Sept. 8, that they have not yet decided on a starter. RB Darren McFadden could be the starter, or RB Christine Michael might be the option.
Footballguys view: Fantasy owners thought they had something with Joseph Randle earlier this year. Then, Randle did next to nothing in camp or the preseason to impress. Now, with the addition of Michael, the team's backfield is completely up in the air. We feel Randle is the guy to start the season, but Michael is arguably the most naturally talented back on the roster. If Michael finally "gets it" he could be very significant for fantasy owners as the starter for the Cowboys.
bizkliz
Footballguy
I had to take this test for my pre-employment application.
Got a 37. The questions aren't ridiculous, but some require a bit of thought. Keep in mind the test is timed, most people don't finish, I didn't.
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Touchdown There
Footballguy
I haven't heard Cristine Michael's coaches say one word about it. I'm sure they will make up their own minds after a few practices.
Yeah, that's exactly what I assumed was going through his mind around 0:28. But hard to argue with results. Watching that whole youtube clip made me want to hang onto him (took him as a trade/cut list flyer late in a few leagues, not a dynasty owner).That's hysterical - you can practically see the "WTF?" thought bubble over Tannehill's head.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBQnOz6nhxEWow. That is a priceless example of Michael's "special traits."Yes. Even though Cyrus Gray had a nice college career and has been a backup in the NFL, it was always pretty clear that Michael was the better back. Had it not been for injuries, Gray wouldn't have ever gotten the chance to break out and probably wouldn't have been drafted.Seriously...
Was CMike ever the starter (sans injury) for Texas A&M in his 4 seasons?
I remember watching him mistakenly steal the ball from Tannehill on what was supposed to be a fake handoff for a play-action pass and take it for like a 32 yard score. That play really epitomizes him as a player. Supremely talented but boneheaded.
I got it wrong. It was a straight up pass play and it was 48 yards. Play starts at 0:09 (second play of the clip). Best angle is at 0:27. Effing hilarious.
FreeBaGeL
Footballguy
How do the announcers not even comment on that?Yeah, that's exactly what I assumed was going through his mind around 0:28. But hard to argue with results. Watching that whole youtube clip made me want to hang onto him (took him as a trade/cut list flyer late in a few leagues, not a dynasty owner).That's hysterical - you can practically see the "WTF?" thought bubble over Tannehill's head.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBQnOz6nhxEWow. That is a priceless example of Michael's "special traits."Yes. Even though Cyrus Gray had a nice college career and has been a backup in the NFL, it was always pretty clear that Michael was the better back. Had it not been for injuries, Gray wouldn't have ever gotten the chance to break out and probably wouldn't have been drafted.Seriously...
Was CMike ever the starter (sans injury) for Texas A&M in his 4 seasons?
I remember watching him mistakenly steal the ball from Tannehill on what was supposed to be a fake handoff for a play-action pass and take it for like a 32 yard score. That play really epitomizes him as a player. Supremely talented but boneheaded.
I got it wrong. It was a straight up pass play and it was 48 yards. Play starts at 0:09 (second play of the clip). Best angle is at 0:27. Effing hilarious.
Todem
Footballguy
No doubt he has elite level skills.
It's between the ears that needs to mature. I hope it does. He has such a great open door in front of him, unlike Seattle where Beast Mode ruled and was not going anywhere.
Something did not work out with him and the Seattle staff. We don't know what. But from a physical stand point he can be elite if he "get's it"
And the late round flier cost he has is well worth a wait and see risk/reward for redraft.
It's between the ears that needs to mature. I hope it does. He has such a great open door in front of him, unlike Seattle where Beast Mode ruled and was not going anywhere.
Something did not work out with him and the Seattle staff. We don't know what. But from a physical stand point he can be elite if he "get's it"
And the late round flier cost he has is well worth a wait and see risk/reward for redraft.
ATB
Footballguy
Pretty clear fake from Tanne there. If you replay the "handoff," it's too seamless to not be purposeful. If Tanne wasn't planning to hand it off, there would be a pause when CMike essentially takes the ball from him. But there's not. Tanne seamlessly drops the ball in CMike's pocket and promptly fakes a throwing motion. There's no miscommunication there. Clear pass fake.How do the announcers not even comment on that?Yeah, that's exactly what I assumed was going through his mind around 0:28. But hard to argue with results. Watching that whole youtube clip made me want to hang onto him (took him as a trade/cut list flyer late in a few leagues, not a dynasty owner).That's hysterical - you can practically see the "WTF?" thought bubble over Tannehill's head.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBQnOz6nhxEWow. That is a priceless example of Michael's "special traits."Yes. Even though Cyrus Gray had a nice college career and has been a backup in the NFL, it was always pretty clear that Michael was the better back. Had it not been for injuries, Gray wouldn't have ever gotten the chance to break out and probably wouldn't have been drafted.Seriously...
Was CMike ever the starter (sans injury) for Texas A&M in his 4 seasons?
I remember watching him mistakenly steal the ball from Tannehill on what was supposed to be a fake handoff for a play-action pass and take it for like a 32 yard score. That play really epitomizes him as a player. Supremely talented but boneheaded.
I got it wrong. It was a straight up pass play and it was 48 yards. Play starts at 0:09 (second play of the clip). Best angle is at 0:27. Effing hilarious.
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What? No, that was absolutely not intentional. And if I recall correctly, they slowed it down and the announcers did eventually catch on to what happened and said something.Wow. That is a priceless example of Michael's "special traits."Yes. Even though Cyrus Gray had a nice college career and has been a backup in the NFL, it was always pretty clear that Michael was the better back. Had it not been for injuries, Gray wouldn't have ever gotten the chance to break out and probably wouldn't have been drafted.Seriously...
Was CMike ever the starter (sans injury) for Texas A&M in his 4 seasons?
I remember watching him mistakenly steal the ball from Tannehill on what was supposed to be a fake handoff for a play-action pass and take it for like a 32 yard score. That play really epitomizes him as a player. Supremely talented but boneheaded.
George Jefferson Airplane
Footballguy
mikmak8902
Footballguy
Have you watched him run? I'd be surprised if you would not think he has elite level running skills after actually watching him. But hey ... we all end up with different viewpoints after watching the same player. Supposedly Breshad Perriman has skills ... I don't see them.
Coeur de Lion
Footballguy
Elite athletic measurables -- yes. Elite running skills -- TBD. 52 career carries is waaaaay to early to slap an elite label on anyone, IMO.
George Jefferson Airplane
Footballguy
And yet he's always been behind Robert Turbin on the depth chart.
That's not even CFL elite.
Wow. That is a priceless example of Michael's "special traits."Yes. Even though Cyrus Gray had a nice college career and has been a backup in the NFL, it was always pretty clear that Michael was the better back. Had it not been for injuries, Gray wouldn't have ever gotten the chance to break out and probably wouldn't have been drafted.Seriously...
Was CMike ever the starter (sans injury) for Texas A&M in his 4 seasons?
I remember watching him mistakenly steal the ball from Tannehill on what was supposed to be a fake handoff for a play-action pass and take it for like a 32 yard score. That play really epitomizes him as a player. Supremely talented but boneheaded.
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