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They didn't trade for Butler until Dez got injured. They didn't trade for Cassel until Romo got injured. Nobody got injured before they traded for Michael, so to me the moves aren't parallel. If they really had three RBs they liked, I don't think they make that trade. Especially not with a possible roster crunch at other positions due to Hardy, etc.

I hope to see Michael this weekend, but it sounds unlikely. I'm skeptical that Randle and DMC will be able to play well though.

 
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This isn't really true, but again, it isn't the point. Trading for a player doesn't necessarily mean that they lack confidence in the other players at the position. Maybe it does in this case, maybe it doesn't, but it certainly isn't some indisputable fact.

 
I'm guessing Michael is inactive for another week or two until McFadden or Randle or Dunbar gets injured. The Shark Pool then spends 200 posts discussing if this is a circumstantial opportunity is real or not.

 
They didn't trade for Butler until Dez got injured. They didn't trade for Cassel until Romo got injured. Nobody got injured before they traded for Michael, so to me the moves aren't parallel. If they really had three RBs they liked, I don't think they make that trade. Especially not with a possible roster crunch at other positions due to Hardy, etc.

I hope to see Michael this weekend, but it sounds unlikely. I'm skeptical that Randle and DMC will be able to play well though.
Randle doesn't look like a 20 touch a game RB to me. He's going to wear down imo. CM is going to get his shot. Is he going to fumble or run for 100+ is the question.

 
They didn't trade for Butler until Dez got injured. They didn't trade for Cassel until Romo got injured. Nobody got injured before they traded for Michael, so to me the moves aren't parallel. If they really had three RBs they liked, I don't think they make that trade. Especially not with a possible roster crunch at other positions due to Hardy, etc.

I hope to see Michael this weekend, but it sounds unlikely. I'm skeptical that Randle and DMC will be able to play well though.
Randle doesn't look like a 20 touch a game RB to me. He's going to wear down imo. CM is going to get his shot. Is he going to fumble or run for 100+ is the question.
Will he get 2 carries for 5 yards, 5 carries for 14-16 yards, or will he fumble? Those seem more realistic.
 
They didn't trade for Butler until Dez got injured. They didn't trade for Cassel until Romo got injured. Nobody got injured before they traded for Michael, so to me the moves aren't parallel. If they really had three RBs they liked, I don't think they make that trade. Especially not with a possible roster crunch at other positions due to Hardy, etc.

I hope to see Michael this weekend, but it sounds unlikely. I'm skeptical that Randle and DMC will be able to play well though.
Randle doesn't look like a 20 touch a game RB to me. He's going to wear down imo. CM is going to get his shot. Is he going to fumble or run for 100+ is the question.
Will he get 2 carries for 5 yards, 5 carries for 14-16 yards, or will he fumble? Those seem more realistic.
What part of the 4.9 ypc average over his very small sample makes you think he's going to average less than 4 ypc behind a superior line?

 
They didn't trade for Butler until Dez got injured. They didn't trade for Cassel until Romo got injured. Nobody got injured before they traded for Michael, so to me the moves aren't parallel. If they really had three RBs they liked, I don't think they make that trade. Especially not with a possible roster crunch at other positions due to Hardy, etc.

I hope to see Michael this weekend, but it sounds unlikely. I'm skeptical that Randle and DMC will be able to play well though.
Randle doesn't look like a 20 touch a game RB to me. He's going to wear down imo. CM is going to get his shot. Is he going to fumble or run for 100+ is the question.
Will he get 2 carries for 5 yards, 5 carries for 14-16 yards, or will he fumble? Those seem more realistic.
What part of the 4.9 ypc average over his very small sample makes you think he's going to average less than 4 ypc behind a superior line?
My point is more that he isn't getting 100 yards in a game anytime soon, because he won't be getting enough carries for that to happen
 
They didn't trade for Butler until Dez got injured. They didn't trade for Cassel until Romo got injured. Nobody got injured before they traded for Michael, so to me the moves aren't parallel. If they really had three RBs they liked, I don't think they make that trade. Especially not with a possible roster crunch at other positions due to Hardy, etc.

I hope to see Michael this weekend, but it sounds unlikely. I'm skeptical that Randle and DMC will be able to play well though.
Randle doesn't look like a 20 touch a game RB to me. He's going to wear down imo. CM is going to get his shot. Is he going to fumble or run for 100+ is the question.
Will he get 2 carries for 5 yards, 5 carries for 14-16 yards, or will he fumble? Those seem more realistic.
What part of the 4.9 ypc average over his very small sample makes you think he's going to average less than 4 ypc behind a superior line?
My point is more that he isn't getting 100 yards in a game anytime soon, because he won't be getting enough carries for that to happen
Yeah I agree with that. My comment was more hyperbole. He could be getting 100+ yards rushing a game before the end of the season though.

 
it almost sounded like waldman likes him more than sig on the audible. hope he gets his chance soon. gotta be active one of these weeks

 
How does a 4th string RB that doesn't do special teams earn the carries?

Maybe C Michael just isn't that hungry. We see tons of guys that aren't

gifted work their way into a starting job through grit and determination.

 
Funny how it is just "coach speak" when it applies to Randle but "opportunity" when fantasy "experts" stake their "reputations" on Christina. They've been staking their reputations on this guy since he was a Seahawk. Seems McFadden, Christina, and at one point Gus Johnson owners will arrange the "tea leaves" whichever way they can to support their guy. This is not Christina's first rodeo and he is still running around in a clown suit. It is one thing to be hopeful. But to act like any of this is set in stone makes you look ridiculous. Reminds me of the Duke Johnson owners only they seem a tad more sensible. The more I play fanasty football the more I realize people will go through great lengths to connect dots that are spaced hundreds of miles apart so long as it suits their agenda. Sad really. For the record, I don't own either guy. Thank God. This thread would piss me off.

 
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Everyone wants to deride the Christine owners. But every once in a while that dark horse RB comes in and wins a lot of people the crown. It's worth taking a shot at if there's room on your roster. I've got this dude on a few of my teams. Probably won't happen but WTF...

 
Funny how it is just "coach speak" when it applies to Randle but "opportunity" when fantasy "experts" stake their "reputations" on Christina. They've been staking their reputations on this guy since he was a Seahawk. Seems McFadden, Christina, and at one point Gus Johnson owners will arrange the "tea leaves" whichever way they can to support their guy. This is not Christina's first rodeo and he is still running around in a clown suit. It is one thing to be hopeful. But to act like any of this is set in stone makes you look ridiculous. Reminds me of the Duke Johnson owners only they seem a tad more sensible. The more I play fanasty football the more I realize people will go through great lengths to connect dots that are spaced hundreds of miles apart so long as it suits their agenda. Sad really. For the record, I don't own either guy. Thank God. This thread would piss me off.
The dots aren't separated 100 miles apart...they're actually on the same practice field. And one dot was brought in because the other dots suck. I'm not trying to be a total snarky sob here. My point is that there's more smoke to the fire. Whether it works out is anyone's guess--it probably won't. However JJ could have signed any retread crappy RB to his practice squad. Dude brought in CM for a reason. It's not going on a limb to connect the dots here. There's talent lying in wait depending on the circumstances.

 
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Chaka said:
matuski said:
Banger said:
someone dropped him and just picked him up off waivers for Beasley
I would have dropped Jaron Brown... but to each his own.

Keep us posted.
The decisions that others make when picking up or dropping Michael are helpful (even if only a little bit) to those of us who are deciding on whether or not to make a move involving him.
Like I said.. I would have dropped Jaron Brown instead of Beasley.

Just here to help in this helpful thread.

 
STEADYMOBBIN 22 said:
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georg013 said:
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Rob Phillips ‏@robphillips3

Garrett: Joseph Randle got a lot of tough yards vs. Philly that "are really important for running efficient offense."

Should this be ignored? Or should I spin this into a positive for Christina?
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Jerry Jones on @1053thefan: Joseph Randle has "all the talent for an every down running back that you could hope to [have]."
Actions speak louder than words. Randle hasn't lived up to the hype thus far (and I'm a Randle owner).
So, what do the actions of never being higher than 3rd on an NFL depth chart speak too?
How about the action of trading for a powerful RB to backup an unproven starter? No matter what the coach and GM say... they traded for him. Because they lacked confidence in the RBs they already had. And those RBs have, thus far, greatly under produced.Just because they espouse confidence in their lead back does not negate all of that.
This has all been pointed out over and over already, but they've given up exactly zero in terms of draft pick compensation as of today. IF he eventually meets the conditions of the trade, they will give up a whopping 7th round draft pick. It's also been pointed out that Dallas has recently traded for a QB and WR, giving up higher draft pick compensation for each than they did for Michael, but no one is arguing that those guys are going to be focal points of the team. Often times teams trade for guys just for depth/insurance. Think about it- despite the team saying essentially the opposite, you're saying that they traded for him because they lacked confidence in the RBs they already had, and those RBs have thus far greatly under produced. Okay, then why would he still be inactive if these things were true? The only plausible explanations would be that at least one of those things aren't true, or Michael himself has also greatly under produced (in practice).
You're ignoring that the RB position has been devalued. QBs and WRs who can run sub 4.4 40's have a higher value then a RB, even if that RB is a potential sleeping giant who shoots lightening from his ####.
It isn't the point, but you think the RB position has been so devalued since his team spent a 2nd round pick on him 2 years ago? There are plenty of QBs and fast WRs who have zero value as well, but that isn't the point either.I was just giving context, showing how a team trading for a player doesn't necessarily mean they lack confidence in their current players.
I DO think it means that they LACK confidence in the backs they have....for a very low cost they bring in "potential"

We shall see how it plays out
Or they are telling the truth and traded for him for depth. They have had a lot of minor injuries already.

I just want to see him get a few carries to see if he can do anything there.

Glad there are some real comments for a change.

 
It is what it is, right Christina owners? Doesnt look like Joseph Randle is having any problems so far. TD. Ouch.

 
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It is what it is, right Christina owners? Doesnt look like Joseph Randle is having any problems so far. TD. Ouch.
Go ahead and suspend me.

Once again george proves himself to be one of the biggest D--I--C--K--S in the pool
No need for a suspension. I know this isnt about me. Your disappointment is evident. Touchdown number two. Guess we dont need to call the 4th stringer up after all. I take no offense to his comments mods. I have been wrong about players as well.

 
It is what it is, right Christina owners? Doesnt look like Joseph Randle is having any problems so far. TD. Ouch.
Go ahead and suspend me.

Once again george proves himself to be one of the biggest D--I--C--K--S in the pool
No need for a suspension. I know this isnt about me. Your disappointment is evident. Touchdown number two. Guess we dont need to call the 4th stringer up after all. I take no offense to his comments mods. I have been wrong about players as well.
no,,,it is about you
I'm flattered!
 
CMike is/was brought in as a "closer" IF he was active? We'd probably see him getting a carry or two now (preps for the workload commin his way)

Hopefully we can get this kind of performance from non-porous D(s) from Randle..

A Full game can take its Toll on some backs..

It wouldn't shock me too see some Randle fans, hoping to see CMike playing soon..

 
It is what it is, right Christina owners? Doesnt look like Joseph Randle is having any problems so far. TD. Ouch.
Go ahead and suspend me.

Once again george proves himself to be one of the biggest D--I--C--K--S in the pool
No need for a suspension. I know this isnt about me. Your disappointment is evident. Touchdown number two. Guess we dont need to call the 4th stringer up after all. I take no offense to his comments mods. I have been wrong about players as well.
no,,,it is about you
You've been pretty bad in your short time here Baz, just saying. :shrug:

 
Great for Randle owners but let's try to keep it excellent...he could still get hurt which is what many in here were banking on.

 
It is what it is, right Christina owners? Doesnt look like Joseph Randle is having any problems so far. TD. Ouch.
Go ahead and suspend me.

Once again george proves himself to be one of the biggest D--I--C--K--S in the pool
No need for a suspension. I know this isnt about me. Your disappointment is evident. Touchdown number two. Guess we dont need to call the 4th stringer up after all. I take no offense to his comments mods. I have been wrong about players as well.
no,,,it is about you
You've been pretty bad in your short time here Baz, just saying. :shrug:
+1His tool factor is quite high. Then he goes on to complain about how others are abusive or rude

 
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Dr. Brew said:
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Bazinga! said:
georg013 said:
It is what it is, right Christina owners? Doesnt look like Joseph Randle is having any problems so far. TD. Ouch.
Go ahead and suspend me.

Once again george proves himself to be one of the biggest D--I--C--K--S in the pool
No need for a suspension. I know this isnt about me. Your disappointment is evident. Touchdown number two. Guess we dont need to call the 4th stringer up after all. I take no offense to his comments mods. I have been wrong about players as well.
no,,,it is about you
You've been pretty bad in your short time here Baz, just saying. :shrug:
+1His tool factor is quite high. Then he goes on to complain about how others are abusive or rude
Many of us have fallen to the lowest common denominator in here, myself included, but we don't want it to get ugly like it did for the past 10 pages or so. No need to call anyone out IMO.
 
Atl D looked pretty solid for the most part coming into this game. I think we can't underestimate the impact of Collins and maybe the line as a whole is just playing closer to expectations. Either way you're right, they do look good.

Dal RBs are all looking good today. I guess a terrible Atl D will do that.
 
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Well, looks like we might need an injury here to see what he can do. Frustrating to own this guy. Just want to see him play.

 
May have to cut him loose soon. He is taking up a valuable bench spot......15th rounder.....so whatever. But may have to cut him loose. Might give it one more week If I do not see much on the wire.

 
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