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CJ Anderson (6 Viewers)
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Stompin' Tom Connors
Footballguy
Didn't see the game but regardless of how he looked, with Hillman's stat line seems like I trust CJ in a FF start, and he seems downright droppable for someone with a higher floor output.
Iwannabeacowboybaby!
Footballguy
You can't start him until he proves he can do anything. They've gone up against some teams that Denver should have been able to,get some good run yardage if they were any good on the line. He's a huge bust, one I jist didn't see coming prior to the season.
dickey moe
Fingerpicker
Worst first round bust in a while.
skinsrule05
Footballguy
I do think today's game was a good sign if you have been holding both of them. We need one to take over and Hillman sure did that today. The problem is Cleveland is a horrible run D. So even if Hillman is the guy I don't know how many quality games he will have.
FreeBaGeL
Footballguy
I dropped him last week and my opponent for this week picked him up and put him in his flex over Marvin Jones 
. Almost makes it worth having drafted this dud.
I think for most people (I know it certainly worked out this way for me), he was literally a negative asset. That is, literally every week I started him he scored less than the alternatives I would have played instead of him. I literally would have scored more fantasy points in each game this year if I had just skipped my 2nd round pick instead of using it on him. I don't see how he's even a hold at this point. We're in week 6 here. The draft was long enough ago that it is irrelevant at this point. Don't get caught up in thinking of him as your 1st/2nd round pick and think of him as some guy on your bench who's the bottom half of a RBBC that couldn't even score starter worthy points when he was the feature back.
Just cut bait. It's liberating.
. Almost makes it worth having drafted this dud.I think for most people (I know it certainly worked out this way for me), he was literally a negative asset. That is, literally every week I started him he scored less than the alternatives I would have played instead of him. I literally would have scored more fantasy points in each game this year if I had just skipped my 2nd round pick instead of using it on him. I don't see how he's even a hold at this point. We're in week 6 here. The draft was long enough ago that it is irrelevant at this point. Don't get caught up in thinking of him as your 1st/2nd round pick and think of him as some guy on your bench who's the bottom half of a RBBC that couldn't even score starter worthy points when he was the feature back.
Just cut bait. It's liberating.
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thecardiackid
Footballguy
head over to the lacy thread. i'm guilty, but it was pick 13/14. lacy was top 5. not that it makes any of us feel better. kubs and his crap OL have effed us
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
Cut him. Pretend he's your 6th round pick and cut him.
Problem is that I have Hillman.
Seriously, I'm I going cut him for Coby Fleener or Devin Funchess.
LOL…if I had start started him over Lewis I would have eked out one more win.
I traded Ivory for him after week three. Ivory was a bit banged up. Thought CJ was worth the gamble. Hey, only 3 weeks in at the time right? Right? 
Don't think I can watch this every week.
I need to package CJ, with others, in some trade that will make me feel better about it all.
One of the worst trades I've ever made. Was horrible to most the moment I did it.
Don't think I can watch this every week.
I need to package CJ, with others, in some trade that will make me feel better about it all.
One of the worst trades I've ever made. Was horrible to most the moment I did it.
Mile High
Footballguy
Really you're cutting a guy who through today is a top 24 RB in standard PPR for this week. You cutting Bell, Peterson, Lewis, Lacy Cj2 Arrington guys he outscored this week to?
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shadyridr
Footballguy
you traded ivory for him after week 3? I might have an opening in my league next yearI traded Ivory for him after week three. Ivory was a bit banged up. Thought CJ was worth the gamble. Hey, only 3 weeks in at the time right? Right?
Don't think I can watch this every week.
I need to package CJ, with others, in some trade that will make me feel better about it all.
One of the worst trades I've ever made. Was horrible to most the moment I did it.
Kwai Chang Caine
Footballguy
I don't man maybe you shouldn't beat your chest quite so hard. Ivory ended up missing week three and although he's been a beast, he's also had an injury tag. A lot of people thought it was only a matter of time for Denver's line to gel then CJ would get rolling. Add to that the Jets use Powell, Stacy and even have Ridley waiting in the wings and it's not hard to see the roll of the dice to trade for a guy that many experts (especially on FBGs) thought could be a top 5 value.And I didn't draft him anywhere.you traded ivory for him after week 3? I might have an opening in my league next yearI traded Ivory for him after week three. Ivory was a bit banged up. Thought CJ was worth the gamble. Hey, only 3 weeks in at the time right? Right?
Don't think I can watch this every week.
I need to package CJ, with others, in some trade that will make me feel better about it all.
One of the worst trades I've ever made. Was horrible to most the moment I did it.
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Sabertooth
Footballguy
I think the smart guy goes out and sneaks Juwan Thompson onto the end of his roster. Hillman isn't going to hold up. CJ is garbage. I think the transition was going to start in Detroit but Thompson got his neck compressed on a goal line carry. I still think that transition happens this season. They are going into the bye, and this could be a Christine Michael type of bye week transition. Hillman played well but he's not suited for the pounder role at all.
chad in Indy
Footballguy
Bronco Billy
Footballguy
Really? I know our scoring is a bit more complex than typical leagues, but he's RB56 in FFppw. Barely rosterable.
Bronco Billy
Footballguy
Thompson and Bibbs are severely mediocre. I not sure how they assume meaningful carries and show any better.
Mile High
Footballguy
I don't play in a total points league. So I don't care what he did last week or the weeks before. Seems silly to cut a player after he put up rb2 numbers.
shadyridr
Footballguy
shadyridr
Footballguy
everydayj
Footballguy
Always entertaining how quickly a couple of weeks can change things. I originally was offered Hillman for Matt Jones weeks ago and declined it because I thought that Matt Jones could be really special later on this year. After a couple of weeks, I traded Matt Jones for Tevin Coleman to lock up my ATL backfield. At this point, though, there's not really much that I WOULDN'T take for CJ Anderson. I feel slightly embarrassed after drinking the Monte Ball kool-aid last year, but I feel like I should just get over that and make a clean cut with this chump at this point.
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Bronco Billy
Footballguy
So by using "through today" you meant that you were only speaking to yesterday exclusively?
Mile High
Footballguy
yes. sorry for not being more clear. Rbs have been a crap shoot this year. Why cut him after one of his best weeks?
rick6668
Footballguy
had to cut 1 rb to get under roster limit... gordon, hillman, cj.... lets just say off week 6 performances... i chose poorly. 
hillman owner has to be hoping he now has 2014 forsett on his hands ROS.... but realistically, are they really going to be able to run the ball when teams are not afraid of manning's arm? at least hillman took advantage of the matchup, but i remain skeptical denver will be able to run against teams not in the bottom 3 of run defense
hillman owner has to be hoping he now has 2014 forsett on his hands ROS.... but realistically, are they really going to be able to run the ball when teams are not afraid of manning's arm? at least hillman took advantage of the matchup, but i remain skeptical denver will be able to run against teams not in the bottom 3 of run defense
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rjv
Footballguy
The DEF is the ONLY thing keeping them in games and winning. This can't continue, offenses will figure out their weaknesses and exploit them soon. Kubs better figure out how to produce with this offense because Manning is unable to get them out of hole if they get to far behind. He doesn't have that "IT" talent anymore and you can see it on the field.
Shutout
Footballguy
Surrounded by 4,3,8,and 3 point performances.shadyridr said:
I am commenting based on the general thought that people are asking "who to grab" in a sense that someone can be what was (Moreno a few years ago, Anderson last year). People went into the year thinking of the Broncos RB as a guy that was going to put up 20-25 every week. That doesn't exist on this team this year.
Sure, Hillman (or who knows whoever else) can put up 15-20 every one in 3 games but its guess work. We can do the same thing just starting Matt Jones, David Johnson, Karlos Williams, Spiller, Riddick every once in a while.
What I'm saying is there is no dependable fix. At this point it is simply throwing spaghetti on a wall and seeing what sticks. The inconsistency isn't worth it.
rjv
Footballguy
Stompin' Tom Connors
Footballguy
Not disputing that the o-line is a problem that Denver needs to fix if they want win with offense and not just defense.Sabertooth said:
It's the o-line. If they don't improve, the running game isn't going to happen. If they do improve, CJ and Hillman will continue to get the carries, as well they should. Thompson is nothing more than a pipe dream.
But it's not an excuse for CJ, as Hillman has clearly had success behind that same o-line.
I don't think there is any reason to believe -- whether the o-line improves or not -- that Hillman isn't the guy in the backfield. Injury may still change that, but why would Denver give the same ratio of carries to both CJ and Hillman when only Hillman seems to be getting it done?
Sarlakticacid
Footballguy
Bibbs cut per bleacher report
BustedKnuckles
Footballguy
i have both Anderson and Hillman...2 weeks ago i started hillman and he did nothing...anderson actually was bettr if only by a bit...this week i started anderson because i knew hillman tweaked his hammy and figured anderson would dominate carries...i was wrong...hence the problem of owning both ...i keep waiting for an injury to sort this mess out(i hate saying that because it sounds like i want one of them hurt and i dont)...what a cluster ####
ATB
Footballguy
Aren't they using each back differently? Hillman hits the edge better than CJ but CJ punches it up the gut better than Hillman.Not disputing that the o-line is a problem that Denver needs to fix if they want win with offense and not just defense.But it's not an excuse for CJ, as Hillman has clearly had success behind that same o-line.Sabertooth said:
It's the o-line. If they don't improve, the running game isn't going to happen. If they do improve, CJ and Hillman will continue to get the carries, as well they should. Thompson is nothing more than a pipe dream.
I don't think there is any reason to believe -- whether the o-line improves or not -- that Hillman isn't the guy in the backfield. Injury may still change that, but why would Denver give the same ratio of carries to both CJ and Hillman when only Hillman seems to be getting it done?
It just so happens that Denver's O-line is better at sealing the edge than making holes.
Poncho
Footballguy
I thought I was all sneaky like a ninja showing up in a few dynasty leagues yesterday and snagged him. This is a bit embarrassing.....
ShamrockPride
Footballguy
BustedKnuckles
Footballguy
Mile High
Footballguy
Exactly. Not a surprise CJ started making plays in OT When they got him outside on runs and passesAren't they using each back differently? Hillman hits the edge better than CJ but CJ punches it up the gut better than Hillman. It just so happens that Denver's O-line is better at sealing the edge than making holes.Not disputing that the o-line is a problem that Denver needs to fix if they want win with offense and not just defense.But it's not an excuse for CJ, as Hillman has clearly had success behind that same o-line.Sabertooth said:
It's the o-line. If they don't improve, the running game isn't going to happen. If they do improve, CJ and Hillman will continue to get the carries, as well they should. Thompson is nothing more than a pipe dream.
I don't think there is any reason to believe -- whether the o-line improves or not -- that Hillman isn't the guy in the backfield. Injury may still change that, but why would Denver give the same ratio of carries to both CJ and Hillman when only Hillman seems to be getting it done?
thecardiackid
Footballguy
i'm thinking the pre-emptive strike move is for all of us to drop him and force some other schlub to roster this waste of space.
can't believe i'm going to type this, but i'm happy doug martin is done w his bye so CJA can head back to the bench.
kubs has destroyed the denver O. pathetic.
can't believe i'm going to type this, but i'm happy doug martin is done w his bye so CJA can head back to the bench.
kubs has destroyed the denver O. pathetic.
thecardiackid
Footballguy
Ok, so who is in charge of the offensive dumpster fire that is denver so far? Not the HC? If you'd prefer, blame elway, along w/ kubs.
Oh how i miss adam gase w/ both CJA and DT.
ATB
Footballguy
I didn't even watch the game. I just know this to be true. It's why Hillman is only a COP guy. He's not going to run it up the gut and withstand a feature back role.Exactly. Not a surprise CJ started making plays in OT When they got him outside on runs and passesAren't they using each back differently? Hillman hits the edge better than CJ but CJ punches it up the gut better than Hillman. It just so happens that Denver's O-line is better at sealing the edge than making holes.Not disputing that the o-line is a problem that Denver needs to fix if they want win with offense and not just defense.But it's not an excuse for CJ, as Hillman has clearly had success behind that same o-line.Sabertooth said:
It's the o-line. If they don't improve, the running game isn't going to happen. If they do improve, CJ and Hillman will continue to get the carries, as well they should. Thompson is nothing more than a pipe dream.
I don't think there is any reason to believe -- whether the o-line improves or not -- that Hillman isn't the guy in the backfield. Injury may still change that, but why would Denver give the same ratio of carries to both CJ and Hillman when only Hillman seems to be getting it done?
O-line has EVERYTHING to do with CJ's fall this year.
Hillman is simply the type of back who can run AROUND the jailbreak that swarms through that anemic line on every play.
kittenmittens
Footballguy
I'd buy this guy in Dynasty, you might be able to get him for a song right now.
Offensive line play can come together after a while, which could happen in Denver even though their personnel is less than stellar.
At best he makes a late season surge, at worst he is a potential asset next season who is probaby worth more than what you traded for him. He had a toe injury earlier in the year that might be lingering as well.
Offensive line play can come together after a while, which could happen in Denver even though their personnel is less than stellar.
At best he makes a late season surge, at worst he is a potential asset next season who is probaby worth more than what you traded for him. He had a toe injury earlier in the year that might be lingering as well.
