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Classic Album Discussion Thread: The Kinks-Lola Versus Powerman and the Moneygoround, Pt. 1 (1 Viewer)
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Leroy Hoard
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Nigel Kennedy has always been at the forefront of bringing rock music to classical music.
Eephus
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The rock album was still a brand spanking new art form. The Who progressed from "A Quick One, While He's Away" to "Sell Out" to "Tommy" in just two years. Townshend rapidly ran out of room to expand the format after that but it didn't stop him from trying.
Chaos Commish
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CletiusMaximus
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I just saw that Kansas' tour this summer is billed as: "Point of Know Return Performed In Its Entirety" and thought of this discussion.
Not a classic perhaps, but when I think back to that time in my life, when these records you're discussing came out, this record definitely comes to mind. Schlocky, cliched, and totally awesome AOR rock n roll. Also Journey, Foreigner, Cheap Trick, Styx and REO Speedwagon. I saw all of them at Alpine Valley in Wisconsin in the late 70s/early 80's.
Not a classic perhaps, but when I think back to that time in my life, when these records you're discussing came out, this record definitely comes to mind. Schlocky, cliched, and totally awesome AOR rock n roll. Also Journey, Foreigner, Cheap Trick, Styx and REO Speedwagon. I saw all of them at Alpine Valley in Wisconsin in the late 70s/early 80's.
timschochet
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Ilov80s
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Yeah my dad was a regular at the Grande Ballroom in Detroit which one of the real meccas of 60s rock. He saw everybody come through their but he said The Who were the best live band ever.
Eephus
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I saw The Who on their first farewell tour in 1982. It was a stadium show in Oakland with The Clash and T-Bone Burnett 
as openers. I found the whole experience to be kind of a letdown.
I'd seen the Clash headline a much smaller venue earlier that summer and they tore it up. The huge ballpark and a crowd who'd come to see the headliners robbed them of much of their power. The Who were surprisingly low energy as well. They were nearing the end of the first leg of their tour and seemed tired. Pete had some wrist or shoulder issues that prevented him from windmilling. I listened to a bootleg of the show and Daltrey's voice sounded pretty good so maybe it's just that I hate Day on the Green shows.
I also have a bone to pick on the whole farewell tour business. I'm sure the band thought it was their last tour at the time but it's crazy to think they're still playing 35 years later. We won't get fooled again indeed.
as openers. I found the whole experience to be kind of a letdown.I'd seen the Clash headline a much smaller venue earlier that summer and they tore it up. The huge ballpark and a crowd who'd come to see the headliners robbed them of much of their power. The Who were surprisingly low energy as well. They were nearing the end of the first leg of their tour and seemed tired. Pete had some wrist or shoulder issues that prevented him from windmilling. I listened to a bootleg of the show and Daltrey's voice sounded pretty good so maybe it's just that I hate Day on the Green shows.
I also have a bone to pick on the whole farewell tour business. I'm sure the band thought it was their last tour at the time but it's crazy to think they're still playing 35 years later. We won't get fooled again indeed.
jamny
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I saw that tour at Shea Stadium except that before The Clash was Buster Poindexter.I saw The Who on their first farewell tour in 1982. It was a stadium show in Oakland with The Clash and T-Bone Burnett
I'd seen the Clash headline a much smaller venue earlier that summer and they tore it up. The huge ballpark and a crowd who'd come to see the headliners robbed them of much of their power. The Who were surprisingly low energy as well. They were nearing the end of the first leg of their tour and seemed tired. Pete had some wrist or shoulder issues that prevented him from windmilling. I listened to a bootleg of the show and Daltrey's voice sounded pretty good so maybe it's just that I hate Day on the Green shows.
I also have a bone to pick on the whole farewell tour business. I'm sure the band thought it was their last tour at the time but it's crazy to think they're still playing 35 years later. We won't get fooled again indeed.
Buzzbait
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CletiusMaximus
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The greatness of Who's Next is beyond question, but I can't easily put it over Quadrophenia in terms of impact it had on music and our young lives at the time. That is truly a special recording in the history of rock n roll. One of the greatest Angry Young Man tributes in a long list of such recordings in rock history. Also, let's not forget Side 2 of Live at Leeds, consisting of 2 songs, an epic 15 minute My Generation followed by Magic Bus to close the show with Daltry's acid-fueled harmonica solo. Leeds still routinely tops the "best live records of all time" lists.
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jamny
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Maybe it was Johanson. I didn't see his set, I got to my seat as The Clash started.
Only time seeing The Who.
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Eephus
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simey
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They were high energy when I saw them in '89. Pete did his windmills and Roger swung his mic in the air. They were loud pounding rock'n'roll. I saw them again in '97 when they did a Quadrophenia tour, and they were good, but it wasn't the high octane show they did in '89. That could be because in '97 they did an album in its entirety, and it was somewhat theatrical. They closed the show with a mix of hits. The '89 show was a mix of their entire catalog throughout the whole concert.
Chaos Commish
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I saw the same show. I was at Chico St at the time, and saw several DotG shows that were great but this was disappointing. I was biting my tongue trying not to criticize, but had to chime since we were there together. Also, our plan, since it was farewell, was to see the show in the LA Coliseum a few days later. We decided not to. I'm jealous of your earlier show with The Clash.I saw The Who on their first farewell tour in 1982. It was a stadium show in Oakland with The Clash and T-Bone Burnett
I'd seen the Clash headline a much smaller venue earlier that summer and they tore it up. The huge ballpark and a crowd who'd come to see the headliners robbed them of much of their power. The Who were surprisingly low energy as well. They were nearing the end of the first leg of their tour and seemed tired. Pete had some wrist or shoulder issues that prevented him from windmilling. I listened to a bootleg of the show and Daltrey's voice sounded pretty good so maybe it's just that I hate Day on the Green shows.
I also have a bone to pick on the whole farewell tour business. I'm sure the band thought it was their last tour at the time but it's crazy to think they're still playing 35 years later. We won't get fooled again indeed.
wikkidpissah
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Thing i respect most about The Who is that they were the last big band not to give in to large venues (Woodstock excepted). By the mid-70s, they were booking 5-6 nites at Boston's Music Hall for intimacy/fidelity's sake when one bad night at the Gaaaahden woulda made most of their fans perfectly happy.
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Uruk-Hai
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I had tickets to the DC show that year. I ended up not going because I thought it was good idea to start the off-site pre-show tailgate 24 hours before with a fun combo of shrooms, moonshine, and white lines. Last thing I truly recall is the sun coming up the morning of the show. My friends who were supposed to go with me said they were banging on my door a few hours before the show that it was time to go and that I told them all to go to hell (I still had an eight-ball with me, so I was SET!!).I saw The Who on their first farewell tour in 1982. It was a stadium show in Oakland with The Clash and T-Bone Burnett
I also have a bone to pick on the whole farewell tour business. I'm sure the band thought it was their last tour at the time but it's crazy to think they're still playing 35 years later. We won't get fooled again indeed.
I cannot remember who was supposed to open.
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Uruk-Hai
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It does, but it doesn't hold up well to me. There's not a lot of the era's live albums that do. The Allman Brother's Live At Fillmore East is the gold standard. And, of course, Grand Funk's Caught In The Act Live, but that should go without saying
zamboni
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Yeah, around that time of The Who concert, he was rolling out his Animals medley (which was rather good).
worrierking
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Who's Next is one of my all-time top five albums.
I also saw them in '82. In St. Louis at the Arena/Checkerdome when the tour was almost over. I sat in the 15th row, and it was the first time I had ever been on the floor at a concert. Pete was fantastic at this show. Unfortunately, by this time The Clash was no longer the opening act and I never got to see them.
I also saw them in '82. In St. Louis at the Arena/Checkerdome when the tour was almost over. I sat in the 15th row, and it was the first time I had ever been on the floor at a concert. Pete was fantastic at this show. Unfortunately, by this time The Clash was no longer the opening act and I never got to see them.
Eephus
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I have a soft spot for Johansen's 1979 solo album "In Style". It's all over the map stylistically and not all of it works but it's a lot better than most punk guys' attempts to crossover to the mainstream. Mick Ronson produced the record.
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timschochet
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The Eagles- Hotel California (1976)
Side One
Hotel California
New Kid In Town
Life In the Fast Lane
Wasted Time
Side Two
Wasted Time (reprise)
Victim of Love
Pretty Maids All In a Row
Try and Love Again
The Last Resort
The addition of Joe Walsh transformed the Eagles from a country rock band to a pop band with some hard rock overtones. The title track is arguably in competition with Stairway to Heaven, Bohemian Rhapsody, and Won’t Get Fooled Again as the greatest rock song of the 70s, greatest rock song ever, etc.
The rest of the album is either high quality or excess depending on who you believe. I always liked it, but I have a few old timer punk rock friends who picked on this album (and Life in the Fast Lane especially) as representative of the “corporate, bland rock” they were seeking to escape in bands like the Ramones, Sex Pistols, Clash, etc.
Side One
Hotel California
New Kid In Town
Life In the Fast Lane
Wasted Time
Side Two
Wasted Time (reprise)
Victim of Love
Pretty Maids All In a Row
Try and Love Again
The Last Resort
The addition of Joe Walsh transformed the Eagles from a country rock band to a pop band with some hard rock overtones. The title track is arguably in competition with Stairway to Heaven, Bohemian Rhapsody, and Won’t Get Fooled Again as the greatest rock song of the 70s, greatest rock song ever, etc.
The rest of the album is either high quality or excess depending on who you believe. I always liked it, but I have a few old timer punk rock friends who picked on this album (and Life in the Fast Lane especially) as representative of the “corporate, bland rock” they were seeking to escape in bands like the Ramones, Sex Pistols, Clash, etc.
timschochet
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I probably should amend what I just wrote a little- in giving Joe Walsh credit for the change in direction for The Eagles, I’m following the History of the Eagles documentary on HBO, and in so doing I’m ignoring the contribution of Don Felder- he was minimized on purpose in that film, but he wrote the melody and guitar line for “Hotel California.”
timschochet
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The Eagles were an interesting band in that Don Henley and Glen Frey represented themselves as the “Lennon/McCarthy” or “Jagger/Richards” duo, but a lot of what most fans consider to be their very best material was composed by the other guys: Felder, Walsh, Bernie Leadon, Randy Meisner, and outside composers like Jackson Browne and Tom Waits.
timschochet
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I like that album a lot, particularly Walsh’s “In the City” (which IMO rivals his best work both solo and The James Gang), and “I Can’t Tell You Why” which is one of the best soft pop ballads of the late 70s (and Timothy B Schmidt’s only important contribution to the band that I can see.)
But “Heartache Tonight” was so overplayed that I got sick of it quickly and still am to this day.
wikkidpissah
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The Donald Trump of rock albums - the occurrence which convinced anyone one who cared that music's only way out was revolution.
timschochet
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Damn. This sounds like some of my old friends.
I get the sentiment of wanting a different sound (and we’re all better off that there were bands to offer it) but do The Eagles really deserve such scorn?
wikkidpissah
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Great album. But i have no problem with the Eagles as the symbols of what went wrong with rock & roll - my favorite personal story is about their spoiled reaction when friends of mine in a local band upstaged them as the opener and the audience walked out on their Peaceful Easy Feelins and the industry stories i've heard about their procurement & use of underage girls would make a mudshark hurl.. Disco (replacing as many music venues as it did) probably caused punk as much as the LAization of music mgmt & record production, but few bands are more deserving of their unfair place in rock history.
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Chaos Commish
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Henley bagged the hottest girl in my HS when she was 17. She was really proud of herself.
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Likely due to the oversaturatuon of the well known tunes, but "Pretty Maids" was my fave track, with "Try And Love Again" as a second (like Meisner's voice).
For whatever reason, I recall a story about the album indicating Meisner wanted a more Motown sound on the record when talking to its producer. Two distinct sounds I would not think of mixing.
For whatever reason, I recall a story about the album indicating Meisner wanted a more Motown sound on the record when talking to its producer. Two distinct sounds I would not think of mixing.
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Going back on a prior post, the death of Bowie impacted me more than expected. I think it is the loss of iconic artists (Prince being another) that are not likely coming back around.
Made me dig back into his catalog a little deeper and what treasures to be found. Ziggy was him at the top of his game, but I think making an album as vital as "Blackstar" at his age and poi t in career made the loss more impactful..to me at least.
Made me dig back into his catalog a little deeper and what treasures to be found. Ziggy was him at the top of his game, but I think making an album as vital as "Blackstar" at his age and poi t in career made the loss more impactful..to me at least.
Chaos Commish
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Love hate relationship with The Eagles but oddly some of the music I readily enjoy in comparison with much of the AOR that I'm done with. Last Resort for me. I wish they named the Album after it. It was a message ahead of it's time. And Henley nails those finishing notes live every time. Just beautiful singing.
wikkidpissah
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I've heard that one of his associates had a taste for virgins as prodigious as Louis XV (in one of history's great ironies, the King was so paranoid of syphillis that he kept a stable, called Parc aux Cerfs (Deer Park), of young virgins in order to avoid it but caught a mortal dose of smallpox from one of them) and would have batches of them lined up bent over an oak table on his lanai for his attention.
simey
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Chaos Commish
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And the storybook comes to a close
Gone are the ribbons and bows
Things to remember places to go
Pretty maids all in a row
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