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wow, this has to be coming for a Portis/Skins fanLT breaks down???? the guy got hurt this year, give the man a break. he got hurt b/c somebody punched him hard enough to break a rib.
Are you even watching the Chiefs when you make this ranking?Big play - check
Agreed, but only because of Tiki's age. There's not a better RB in the NFL right now though.
2. Edgerrin James: I still wonder just how good Edge could have been if he had never suffered that knee injury because as good as he is now, he's not quite as good as he was then. But he's still immensely gifted and excels in all aspects of being a RB, including the pivotal aspect of blocking where he may be the best in the league now that Marshall Faulk is nearing the end of the line.3. Clinton Portis: I think his talent is off-the-charts. He has now proven he can excel in two vastly different offensive systems. He's tougher than given credit for being and he has home-run ability every time he gets his hands on the ball. 4. Tiki Barber: The only thing keeping Barber down a bit on my list is he's older than the RBs listed above him. But he's an absolutely sensational RB who can also do everything on the football field. If he'd only get a head coach who truly appreciated his vastly under-rated short-yardage skill maybe Barber could make a run at the single season TD record. 5. Shaun Alexander: So what if he's the product of a great system? He's putting up huge numbers year in and year out. He's absolute money near the goal line and I don't care who else is on the field, if you have a RB with a nose for the goal line that's a HUGE asset to your football team. He's also proven to be a good receiver out of the backfield and he's running with more authority and purpose than he did earlier in his career. He's a legitimately great RB and well deserving of the MVP award this season.That's my list. Dude chill- I grew up in Diego. And LT broke down in '04 as well (groin)- which would equate to durability issues. Maybe he should follow the Portis plan and bulk up this offseason. Your yacking about being "shortsighted" check out the most yards gained chart on this post, that would support my basis.
Teams know Gibbs wants to run the ball, especially down at the goal line. The OL, early in the season, just wasn't getting the push needed to punch it in against 11 defenders. So, Gibbs started to run play action and hit the H-back for TDs. That started giving the Skins offense the ability to run the ball in short-yardage situations.
Portis ranked 6th in FBG scoring this year. He finished 24 points behind Edge, who had about 20 more touches than Portis.I think we could see both Portis and the OL take the next step in Gibbs' offense next year. That means they won't really care about trying to fool anyone at the goal line. They'll just line up, maybe even tell you what they're running, and pound it in for a TD.
excellent list. Mine is: 1. LT2Since I was the first one to mention in that thread that I believe Portis is, without question, a Top 5 RB in the NFL in terms of pure talent here's my list:
1. LT: I worry about the durability issues (he's been banged up now each of the past two seasons) but in terms of pure talent there isn't anyone in the league I would take ahead of him. There is nothing he cannot do on a football field -- even throw the ball.
2. Edgerrin James: I still wonder just how good Edge could have been if he had never suffered that knee injury because as good as he is now, he's not quite as good as he was then. But he's still immensely gifted and excels in all aspects of being a RB, including the pivotal aspect of blocking where he may be the best in the league now that Marshall Faulk is nearing the end of the line.
3. Clinton Portis: I think his talent is off-the-charts. He has now proven he can excel in two vastly different offensive systems. He's tougher than given credit for being and he has home-run ability every time he gets his hands on the ball.
4. Tiki Barber: The only thing keeping Barber down a bit on my list is he's older than the RBs listed above him. But he's an absolutely sensational RB who can also do everything on the football field. If he'd only get a head coach who truly appreciated his vastly under-rated short-yardage skill maybe Barber could make a run at the single season TD record.
5. Shaun Alexander: So what if he's the product of a great system? He's putting up huge numbers year in and year out. He's absolute money near the goal line and I don't care who else is on the field, if you have a RB with a nose for the goal line that's a HUGE asset to your football team. He's also proven to be a good receiver out of the backfield and he's running with more authority and purpose than he did earlier in his career. He's a legitimately great RB and well deserving of the MVP award this season.
That's my list.
I don't agree that Johnson is over-rated. I think he's proving to be a very talented RB. However, he needs to do it for a bit longer to be included with a group of RBs who have excelled over the course of several years. I thought about moving Edge down my list a bit -- I originally had Portis No. 2 and Edge No. 3 -- but when you consider that Edge is arguably the best in the league at picking up blitzes and helping to protect the QB that is a HUGE asset in his favor. That's even more true when you consider the team he plays on and how important the passing game and their QB is to their success. Edge isn't quite the same explosive Edge he was pre-knee injury, but I think he's a more complete RB now and he clearly can carry an offense either as a runner or receiver out of the backfield. Put all of that together and that's why I moved him up to No. 2. He isn't going to bust one for 90 yards the way Portis can but I think he does everything else more completely (although Portis is under-rated in many aspects of the game) at a slightly higher level.excellent list. Mine is: 1. LT2Since I was the first one to mention in that thread that I believe Portis is, without question, a Top 5 RB in the NFL in terms of pure talent here's my list:
1. LT: I worry about the durability issues (he's been banged up now each of the past two seasons) but in terms of pure talent there isn't anyone in the league I would take ahead of him. There is nothing he cannot do on a football field -- even throw the ball.
2. Edgerrin James: I still wonder just how good Edge could have been if he had never suffered that knee injury because as good as he is now, he's not quite as good as he was then. But he's still immensely gifted and excels in all aspects of being a RB, including the pivotal aspect of blocking where he may be the best in the league now that Marshall Faulk is nearing the end of the line.
3. Clinton Portis: I think his talent is off-the-charts. He has now proven he can excel in two vastly different offensive systems. He's tougher than given credit for being and he has home-run ability every time he gets his hands on the ball.
4. Tiki Barber: The only thing keeping Barber down a bit on my list is he's older than the RBs listed above him. But he's an absolutely sensational RB who can also do everything on the football field. If he'd only get a head coach who truly appreciated his vastly under-rated short-yardage skill maybe Barber could make a run at the single season TD record.
5. Shaun Alexander: So what if he's the product of a great system? He's putting up huge numbers year in and year out. He's absolute money near the goal line and I don't care who else is on the field, if you have a RB with a nose for the goal line that's a HUGE asset to your football team. He's also proven to be a good receiver out of the backfield and he's running with more authority and purpose than he did earlier in his career. He's a legitimately great RB and well deserving of the MVP award this season.
That's my list.
2. Barber
3. SA
4. Portis
5. Edge
LJ is way overrated. Anyone can run in that system, and LJ hasn't mastered the other aspects of the game yet.
"Dude", could you imagine LT's stats behind the Broncos rush line. LT bulk up, that's funny, Portis bulked up is probably closer to where LT is on a regular basis. And you kind of proved my point about LT and Portis if you were only basing it on the yards gained stat, most NFL fans would agree and think beyond numbers and see why Portis has those numbers, maybe because of the Denver running system.
I sure hope so. I have Portis in a TD only league (which is why I didn't realize right off hand how high he finished in standard leagues). I used to have Ahman Green in this same league. He would score about 9 TDs and lose several to play action passes to the TEs. I traded him right before his 20 TD season when the team finally just gave him the ball at the goalline. Given that Portis has a lot more TDs in the second half of the season, I think you may be right
