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Mike Zimmer to be Minnesota Vikings' next coach

By Gregg Rosenthal

Around The League Editor

The Minnesota Vikings have replaced one defensive-minded head coach with another one. Mike Zimmer, passed over for top coaching jobs for many years, finally has his chance to run a team.

NFL Media Insider Ian Rapoport reported Wednesday that Zimmer will be the next coach of the Vikings, according to a source. Zimmer, the Cincinnati Bengals' defensive coordinator since 2008, was previously the defensive coordinator for the Dallas Cowboys (2000-06) and Atlanta Falcons (2007).

Zimmer previously had interviewed for five coaching jobs and been passed over for many other interviews despite an excellent body of work as a creative defensive mind. Anyone who has watched Zimmer during three separate seasons on HBO's "Hard Knocks" knows that he is a man who doesn't pull verbal punches. The style might not be for every owner, but Zimmer has earned this shot. He's been great in his career at maximizing his talent and developing defensive players.

Zimmer replaces Leslie Frazier, a defensive coach who couldn't solve Minnesota's offensive issues. NFL Media columnist Michael Silver says to watch out for former Detroit Lions coordinator and St. Louis Rams coach Scott Linehan as a potential offensive coordinator. Silver notes that Zimmer would target Bengals assistant Paul Gunther as defensive coordinator.

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Rotoworld take:

Vikings hired Mike Zimmer as head coach.

After the Titans hired Ken Whisenhunt as head coach Monday, Zimmer emerged as the clear favorite to land the Minnesota job. Tennessee was also vying for his services. There never really were any other candidates for the Vikings. Zimmer was the only one to receive a second interview, which took place on Tuesday. Vikings brass was mulling over whether to bring in more candidates for second looks but decided to offer the job to the much-deserved Zimmer. He'll bring a completely different personality to the Vikings than previous coach Leslie Frazier. Frazier was calm and relatively quiet, while Zimmer is on the fiery side. He'll keep Minnesota's 4-3 defense in place and reportedly has interest in bringing in Norv Turner to run the offense. The Vikings certainly upgraded on Wednesday.

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Source: Adam Schefter on Twitter
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Minnesota likes to hire coaches no one else really wants. Frazier was passed up many times, so was Zimmer. Doesn't seem that great when teams who have been performing poorly go and raid a team in Cincinnati that isn't winning playoff games. These guys are OK, I don't see the greatness everyone else does between him and Jay Gruden who went to Washington.

 
shadyridr said:
Its about time this dude got a HC gig
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I find it interesting that he was not selected earlier, and whether there is a reason for it. We know about the temper, etc., but being a head coach is a lot more about the "people side"...not sure we won't be looking back in 2-3 and say "he's a great coordinator, crummy head coach".

 
Ministry of Pain said:
Minnesota likes to hire coaches no one else really wants. Frazier was passed up many times, so was Zimmer. Doesn't seem that great when teams who have been performing poorly go and raid a team in Cincinnati that isn't winning playoff games. These guys are OK, I don't see the greatness everyone else does between him and Jay Gruden who went to Washington.
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Yeah, Cincy is a talented team so I wouldn't give the coaches as much credit as they've been getting, especially with that recent playoff track record. I like Zimmer over Gruden though.

 
As a Bengals fan, I'll miss Zimmer, but he deserves a shot as a head coach. I don't know if his personality fits a normal HC, but you can't dispute his coaching.

 
Nucker101 said:
Ministry of Pain said:
Minnesota likes to hire coaches no one else really wants. Frazier was passed up many times, so was Zimmer. Doesn't seem that great when teams who have been performing poorly go and raid a team in Cincinnati that isn't winning playoff games. These guys are OK, I don't see the greatness everyone else does between him and Jay Gruden who went to Washington.
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Yeah, Cincy is a talented team so I wouldn't give the coaches as much credit as they've been getting, especially with that recent playoff track record. I like Zimmer over Gruden though.
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Zimmer improved the defense every year since he has been in Cincy. He did the most with players like Terrence Newman, Chris Crocker, Pacman, Reggie Nelson. Players that have been cast off other teams. I think Zimmer should get a lot of that credit. Great drafting on defense helps too with Atkins, Dunlap, Johnson, and Burfict (UFA). I'm sure Zimmer had a big say in those selections.

 
bostonfred said:
Norv turner has sucked the life out of the last two offenses he's run. The magic is gone.
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Cleveland probably over-performed when you consider what they were starting at QB, RB and WR (outside of Gordon).

 
Sweet Love said:
shadyridr said:
Its about time this dude got a HC gig
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I find it interesting that he was not selected earlier, and whether there is a reason for it. We know about the temper, etc., but being a head coach is a lot more about the "people side"...not sure we won't be looking back in 2-3 and say "he's a great coordinator, crummy head coach".
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All of this

 
Totally racist how the Dolphins chose Philbin over Zimmer two years ago :crazy:

-QG

 
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shadyridr said:
Its about time this dude got a HC gig
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Yeah, it is. He said a few weeks ago that he knew his earlier interviews didn't go so well but that over time he learned to get better at them.

Zimmer also said he thinks he’s better at interviews after going through the process the last couple of years. “I believe I’ve gotten better at it,” Zimmer said, via Joe Reedy of the Cincinnati Enquirer. “The first one I did was a long time ago with the Rams. I didn’t do a very good job. It’s like coaching, I guess, I think you know when you do good and when you don’t when you walk out. I was told that I did good in the other ones, so we’ll see.
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http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/01/06/report-mike-zimmer-jim-caldwell-expected-to-interview-for-titans-this-week/

 
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Seriously, I can't even take that seriously. You tried too hard and the arguement wasn't realistic. Nice try, whatever.

I think Zimmer is going to be a good coach. The two oc s mentioned are solid. Hope he gets a good dc. I think he will win but a qb is still needed.

 
Ministry of Pain said:
Minnesota likes to hire coaches no one else really wants. Frazier was passed up many times, so was Zimmer. Doesn't seem that great when teams who have been performing poorly go and raid a team in Cincinnati that isn't winning playoff games. These guys are OK, I don't see the greatness everyone else does between him and Jay Gruden who went to Washington.
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He's overdue. Someone no one else wants seems harsh yet I got no comeback.

When Dallas transitioned from speed defense to BP's power defense...didn't miss a beat.

When they went from 4-3 to 3-4, same thing. One of these times they actually led the league in defense even.

Cincy had worst ever type strings of injuries and bad luck(and bad draft picks) yet he got their D to perform. The last few years, they've kept players on the field and drafted better and IIRC they were all top ten Ds.

I think a top ten D and ADP in a T.O.P. offense seems like a very tough matchup. If only they could get QBs to pull it off.

Vikes gave up 1000 yards in penalties, 2nd most yardage and 33 minutes per game. If he widdles down the penalties, there's probably a win or two right there.

 
Good for Zim but I am a bit surprised that the Vikings went with another defensive guy right after getting rid of a defensive guy

It seems like most teams got the opposite of what they just had

 
Yenrub said:
Good for Zim but I am a bit surprised that the Vikings went with another defensive guy right after getting rid of a defensive guy

It seems like most teams got the opposite of what they just had
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They did. :shrug:

Went from a coach who rarely/never raised his voice and said "we'll have to review the tape and address those correctable mistakes" when the team was in smoldering ashes around him, to a coach who will probably stop JUST short of pulling a "Bob Knight" every time some joker like LB Erin Henderson is loping and missing assignments (not to mention embarrassing the team by racking up DUI after DUI).

 
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Also...

Kubiak - O'Brien (offense)

Schiano - Lovie (defense)

Shanahan - Gruden (offense)

Munchack - Whisenhunt (offense)

Frazier - Zimmer (defense)

Schwartz - Caldwell is the only switch.

 
datonn said:
Yenrub said:
Good for Zim but I am a bit surprised that the Vikings went with another defensive guy right after getting rid of a defensive guy

It seems like most teams got the opposite of what they just had
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They did. :shrug:

Went from a coach who rarely/never raised his voice and said "we'll have to review the tape and address those correctable mistakes" when the team was in smoldering ashes around him, to a coach who will probably stop JUST short of pulling a "Bob Knight" every time some joker like LB Erin Henderson is loping and missing assignments (not to mention embarrassing the team by racking up DUI after DUI).
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From all indications of what I've heard of Zimmer he won't bend to the whims of the GM when it comes to who will be starting at QB..

Reading between the lines of Frazier's latest interview, it certainly sounds like he allowed Spielmen to pull the strings on who to start, which ultimately lead to his firing.

Looking forward to a possibly :boxing: between Spielmen and Zimmer. :popcorn:

 
It will be interesting to see what Norv can do to help elevate Cordarelle Patterson's game. Not sure how much Norv had to do with Josh Gordon's big-time emergence, but Gordon was also a raw specimen with off-the-charts measurables.

 
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Nucker101 said:
Ministry of Pain said:
Minnesota likes to hire coaches no one else really wants. Frazier was passed up many times, so was Zimmer. Doesn't seem that great when teams who have been performing poorly go and raid a team in Cincinnati that isn't winning playoff games. These guys are OK, I don't see the greatness everyone else does between him and Jay Gruden who went to Washington.
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Yeah, Cincy is a talented team so I wouldn't give the coaches as much credit as they've been getting, especially with that recent playoff track record. I like Zimmer over Gruden though.
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Perhaps Zimmer had a lot of input into drafting those talented players.

 
You guys also got a highly regarded OC so I'm not sure what this defense ignore offense attitude is about, it's a little confusing.

The best base offense in Minny is give the ball to ADP 10k times until his legs fall off. That won't change. It can be tricky for some NFL coordinators to have a nice passing game that balances out a terrific RB. IMO Norv is very good at this and exactly what the team needs here.

Can you imagine if you guys got Loggains who didn't call a running play for CJ for whole quarters at a time?

If I were a Vikes fan, I'd be hoping for new QBs about now-if not an impressive QB that can make this into a great offense, then a Dilfer Simms clone that won't make many mistakes.

 
datonn said:
Yenrub said:
Good for Zim but I am a bit surprised that the Vikings went with another defensive guy right after getting rid of a defensive guy

It seems like most teams got the opposite of what they just had
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They did. :shrug:

Went from a coach who rarely/never raised his voice and said "we'll have to review the tape and address those correctable mistakes" when the team was in smoldering ashes around him, to a coach who will probably stop JUST short of pulling a "Bob Knight" every time some joker like LB Erin Henderson is loping and missing assignments (not to mention embarrassing the team by racking up DUI after DUI).
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I should have written opposite side of the ball

 
MIN DST will be a buy by end of next year. I think Zimmer gets them there on their own merits but we will see the return of outdoor football also.

Pitt, Sea, GB, NE, Chi, Nyg, Nyj all love having the end of year weather HFA, and I think MIN will be sorry to lose it again when all is said & done. I think they're fools to play indoors in any event.

 
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Sabertooth said:
Nucker101 said:
Ministry of Pain said:
Minnesota likes to hire coaches no one else really wants. Frazier was passed up many times, so was Zimmer. Doesn't seem that great when teams who have been performing poorly go and raid a team in Cincinnati that isn't winning playoff games. These guys are OK, I don't see the greatness everyone else does between him and Jay Gruden who went to Washington.
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Yeah, Cincy is a talented team so I wouldn't give the coaches as much credit as they've been getting, especially with that recent playoff track record. I like Zimmer over Gruden though.
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Perhaps Zimmer had a lot of input into drafting those talented players.
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No perhaps about it - Bengals coaches are probably the most active in the draft process of any team in the league.

-QG

 
fatness said:
shadyridr said:
Its about time this dude got a HC gig
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Yeah, it is. He said a few weeks ago that he knew his earlier interviews didn't go so well but that over time he learned to get better at them.

Zimmer also said he thinks he’s better at interviews after going through the process the last couple of years. “I believe I’ve gotten better at it,” Zimmer said, via Joe Reedy of the Cincinnati Enquirer. “The first one I did was a long time ago with the Rams. I didn’t do a very good job. It’s like coaching, I guess, I think you know when you do good and when you don’t when you walk out. I was told that I did good in the other ones, so we’ll see.
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http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/01/06/report-mike-zimmer-jim-caldwell-expected-to-interview-for-titans-this-week/
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Sounds like the idea behind the Rooney Rule is pretty sound then.

 
zamboni said:
It will be interesting to see what Norv can do to help elevate Cordarelle Patterson's game. Not sure how much Norv had to do with Josh Gordon's big-time emergence, but Gordon was also a raw specimen with off-the-charts measurables.
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Bump Rudolph big time.

 
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Bri said:
You guys also got a highly regarded OC so I'm not sure what this defense ignore offense attitude is about, it's a little confusing.

The best base offense in Minny is give the ball to ADP 10k times until his legs fall off. That won't change. It can be tricky for some NFL coordinators to have a nice passing game that balances out a terrific RB. IMO Norv is very good at this and exactly what the team needs here.

Can you imagine if you guys got Loggains who didn't call a running play for CJ for whole quarters at a time?

If I were a Vikes fan, I'd be hoping for new QBs about now-if not an impressive QB that can make this into a great offense, then a Dilfer Simms clone that won't make many mistakes.
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What is interesting about the pairing of AD with Norv Turner, is that the Vikings have been running some plays made famous in the NFL such as the lead draw.

I am reluctant to speculate right now on how Turner will transform the offense, but it should be very good for Peterson.

It also should be good for Rudolph.

Patterson still has a long ways to go in developing his route running skills. However he is lightning in a bottle whenever he touches the ball. Greg Jennings is very good as well. The offensive line performed poorly last season in pass protection and is built more for the run. For the most part there are good supporting players for whoever the next QB ends up being.

I think winning the last game against Detroit cost the Vikings their chance to get a top QB. If one does fall to them at pick 8 then of course they take that guy. But if there isn't a QB there I would rather they not blow the pick by taking one anyways. There are a lot of needs on the defensive side of the ball.

I listened to an interesting pod cast about this yesterday: http://www.dailynorseman.com/2014/1/16/5315372/norse-code-podcast-024-the-mike-zimmer-episode

One of the things I learned here is the talk about the Bengals recent aproach to the draft has been to take offensive players early and they have been successful with some of their defensive picks later in the drafts, as well as reclamation projects in free agency.

There is a lot to like about this.

What free agent defensive players, particularly defensive backs and linebackers will be available in free agency? What QBs?

The Vikings will not likely re-sign Jared Allen, so that is 13 million right there.

It is a good time for a fresh start and many of the bigger contracts have cleared or could be cleared.

 
Biabreakable said:
Da Guru said:
Surprised Cinci did not broom Marvin and keep Zimmer. The players seem to love him.
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This feels a bit like the reverse of the Vikings losing Dungy while keeping Denny Green or worse the Vikings losing Mike Tomlin while keeping Childress.
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:goodposting: I agree.

 
The Hank said:
zamboni said:
It will be interesting to see what Norv can do to help elevate Cordarelle Patterson's game. Not sure how much Norv had to do with Josh Gordon's big-time emergence, but Gordon was also a raw specimen with off-the-charts measurables.
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Bump Rudolph big time.
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That was my initial thought but then I was thinking well how much more can a player really catch? How much more use?

Some of the Air Coryell descendants use the TE as an H-back so he could get some runs and work blocking; the previous ones though really didn't get all that much use like this, it was more creating something for the D to think upon.

Do you think there's a lot of room for improvement? Like this year and a projection for next-whatcha got?

 
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